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Even though I still believe that Osten's wanting to quit and subsequent "stuff" could be the lie, I'm liking your analysis. But there are two things that don't make sense.

If, as JP says, the lie is something they probably won't know about until they actually watch the show, how is it that Burton knows enough about this "lie" to know that it hasn't happened yet. If they really don't know that it's a lie, they would have no idea whether or not it "happened" yet, am I right?

Now, my initial (before I was in the Osten is lying camp) though about the BL (if related to the BR) is that it would be more likely to involve the liar lying about him or herself...leading to their eventual demise as a result of said lie (which the players wouldn't have to know is a lie to decide that whatever it is would be reason to boot him/her). That's when my Osten theories first starting making sense...if Osten lied about his abilties and wanting to quit, we know that Lil and Ryan S. were both pretty ticked that he wanted to quit so soon and basically gave up. So, if Osten were somehow involved in a final 3 scenario in which Lil (after coming back of course...if any of that junk is true...who knows?!?!) had just won the final IC, she could say "well Osten, you gave up on day 3...I don't think you deserve to win the million so I'm choosing (insert name name here) over you". That sort of lie or some sort of moral lie (lying to garner support, lying about some reason you could use the money, lying about a person in your life back home and when the person finds out they are furious, etc.) seem to be the most likely candidates in my book.

I do wonder how Burton knows what the lie is. It is not as if the survivors have some prior viewing of the season (they don't...unless it's changed recently anyway) where they could see how it plays out.

So I'm wondering what sort of lie JP would think the others wouldn't know about.

AND...maybe, just maybe...it's BURTON who is responsible for the lie. If he's SO dang sure when it happens, wouldn't he be a logical choice for the liar? It doesn't seem all that far-fetched...of course that would imply that he somehow returns to the game. I don't know...this lie stuff is starting to drive me bonkers and I just hope I'm not in for a huge letdown when it actually is revealed to us.


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 Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twist Pa...   mistofleas     10-21-03       
   *smooches*   jkokoj     10-21-03     1  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   volsfan     10-21-03     2  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   aethelstan     10-21-03     3  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-21-03     4  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Brownroach     10-21-03     9  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   FarmBoy     10-21-03     6  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   shuiheart     10-21-03     5  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Nash     10-21-03     7  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Abbynoxious     10-21-03     8  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Abbynoxious     10-21-03     10  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   katethegreat     10-21-03     11  
     agree kate   I_AM_HE     10-22-03     23  
         RE: agree kate   Loree     10-22-03     29  
         RE: agree kate   BeerNuts     10-22-03     35  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   PhoenixMons     10-21-03     12  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   toddE     10-21-03     20  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-21-03     13  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   shuiheart     10-21-03     14  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-21-03     15  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Spanky68     10-21-03     16  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   yensid     10-22-03     32  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   zzz     10-21-03     17  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Blow by Blow     10-22-03     33  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   aethelstan     10-21-03     18  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Jims02     10-21-03     19  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   oddout     10-21-03     21  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-21-03     22  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   smiley     10-22-03     24  
   M- - - - - f- - - - -   aethelstan     10-22-03     25  
     RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   pdragonfly     10-22-03     26  
     RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   mistofleas     10-22-03     28  
         RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   aethelstan     10-22-03     30  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   johnnoah     10-22-03     27  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-22-03     31  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-22-03     34  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-22-03     36  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   oddout     10-22-03     38  
             Trying to reconcile...   PhoenixMons     10-23-03     41  
                 RE: Trying to reconcile...   Breezy     10-24-03     48  
         Article about Lill and BSA   Blow by Blow     10-22-03     37  
   Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   aethelstan     10-22-03     39  
     RE: Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   Acawap     10-22-03     40  
         RE: Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   Blow by Blow     10-23-03     43  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-23-03     42  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Nash     10-23-03     44  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-23-03     46  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Blow by Blow     10-23-03     45  
         Big Lie = Bonhome?   Chez     10-24-03     47  
             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Acawap     10-24-03     49  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Dominique     10-28-03     94  
             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     50  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   cleaningwoman     10-24-03     51  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     52  
                         RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Acawap     10-24-03     53  
                             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     54  
                                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   pmspml5     10-24-03     55  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   1derfool     10-24-03     57  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   ADKer     10-25-03     58  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   pdragonfly     10-24-03     56  
                     i figured it out!!   fishtank     10-25-03     59  
                         RE: i figured it out!!   pdragonfly     10-25-03     60  
                         RE: i figured it out!!   Acawap     10-27-03     64  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   PhoenixMons     10-26-03     62  
    Big Twist based on folklore?   1derfool     10-25-03     61  
     RE: Big Twist based on folklore?   mistofleas     10-27-03     63  
         I think it is Osten - not for the s...   PLC123     10-27-03     65  
             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     66  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Acawap     10-28-03     67  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   pmspml5     10-28-03     68  
                         RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   LeftPinky     10-28-03     69  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Brownroach     10-28-03     72  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   aethelstan     10-28-03     71  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Brownroach     10-28-03     74  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Joyful     10-28-03     77  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Bebo     10-28-03     78  
             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   lizzmac     10-28-03     70  
                 OSTEN QUITS!   ElroyJetson     10-28-03     80  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   toddE     10-28-03     83  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   lizzmac     10-28-03     84  
                         RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Blow by Blow     10-28-03     88  
                             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   joannie     10-28-03     91  
   Other site news, and more-   Chez     10-28-03     73  
     RE: Other site news, and more-   Acawap     10-28-03     75  
         Osten assaulting someone!!!   Chez     10-28-03     93  
     RE: Other site news, and more-   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     76  
         RE: Other site news, and more-   pmspml5     10-28-03     79  
             RE: Other site news, and more-   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     81  
         Osten et al.   aethelstan     10-28-03     82  
             RE: Osten et al.   pdragonfly     10-28-03     85  
             RE: Osten et al.   Acawap     10-28-03     86  
                 We need to remember   jkokoj     10-28-03     87  
                     RE: We need to remember   Brownroach     10-28-03     89  
             RE: Osten et al.   BrassFan     10-29-03     99  
                 Good lie!   aethelstan     10-29-03     102  
                     RE: Good lie!   mistofleas     10-29-03     104  
                     RE: Good lie!   Dominique     10-29-03     105  
                 RE: Osten et al.   Breezy     10-29-03     103  
                     RE: Osten et al.   LeftPinky     10-29-03     106  
                         RE: Osten et al.   Dominique     10-29-03     107  
                 RE: Osten et al.   KObrien_fan     10-29-03     108  
                     RE: Osten et al.   BrassFan     10-29-03     113  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   blacknwhitedog     10-28-03     90  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Loquatrix     10-28-03     92  
         Osten   Devious Weasel     10-29-03     114  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   homie     10-29-03     96  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   pmspml5     10-29-03     97  
   BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mavsfan     10-29-03     95  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   pmspml5     10-29-03     98  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mistofleas     10-29-03     100  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   Brownroach     10-29-03     101  
         RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mavsfan     10-29-03     123  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-29-03     109  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Brownroach     10-29-03     110  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-29-03     111  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-29-03     112  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-29-03     115  
   About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Blow by Blow     10-29-03     116  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   pmspml5     10-29-03     117  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   mistofleas     10-29-03     118  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   VerucaSalt     10-29-03     119  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Blow by Blow     10-29-03     120  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   KObrien_fan     10-29-03     121  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Acawap     10-29-03     122  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret --Just a T...   cnsrol     10-30-03     124  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   BrassFan     10-30-03     125  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-30-03     126  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   badger     10-30-03     127  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   pmspml5     10-30-03     128  
                 RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   BrassFan     10-30-03     129  
   Regrettable incident is tonight   Brownroach     10-30-03     130  
     A Thought   Devious Weasel     10-30-03     131  
         RE: A Thought   Brownroach     10-30-03     132  
         RE: A Thought   Bebo     10-30-03     134  
     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   frisky     10-30-03     133  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   DoodleBug     10-30-03     135  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Acawap     10-30-03     136  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Devious Weasel     10-30-03     137  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   frisky     10-30-03     139  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   badger     10-30-03     140  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Brownroach     10-30-03     138  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Acawap     10-30-03     141  
                 RE: Really Christa weighs 125?   KObrien_fan     10-30-03     142  
                     RE: Really Christa weighs 125?   Acawap     10-30-03     143  
     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Barendd     10-30-03     144  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   BrassFan     10-30-03     145  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   ExInterper     10-30-03     146  
                 RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Barendd     10-30-03     147  
                     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   BrassFan     10-30-03     149  
   So now we know...   princessoftides     10-30-03     148  
     Big Lie   buckeyegirl     10-31-03     150  
         RE: Big Lie   VerucaSalt     10-31-03     151  
             RE: Big Lie   princessoftides     10-31-03     152  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-31-03     153  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   frisky     10-31-03     154  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   buckeyegirl     10-31-03     155  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   teffi     11-01-03     156  
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