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109. "RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis..."
Ok, during my down time at work, I cut and pasted all the pertinent quotes regarding the BL, BR and twist and re-read them closely, with all of them together to find the good stuff. Some things are fairly clearly fact:
- the twist is the ghost tribe and is happening this week/next.
- The Big Lie and Regret haven’t happened yet.

Now my conclusions (with things I based them on):
- the Big Lie and Regret will be happening during this 2-part episode, and will involve Osten. Put these together:
1) For a time, he says he fell for "the greatest lie ever told on 'Survivor.' "It's brilliant. It's brutal and it's brilliant and it totally suckered me," says Probst, who, naturally, won't divulge who told the lie or what its ramifications were. "My first reaction was 'Motherf----r,' and then my second reaction was 'Wow, that's amazing.' "
2)A "very, very regrettable event happens," Probst says. "And I think the person to whom it happens is going to regret it, and I think they're going to regret it more than they have any idea (they will) right now. I couldn't believe it when it happened, and I can't wait for it to play out."
3)JP this week: Osten has an interesting next 3 days. The next episode is pretty interesting for Osten.
4) from snewser:
In the previews for Episode 7, suggestions are that he's ready to quit yet again. "This morning he checked out. I can see it in his eyes," Andrew says in confessional. "He's thrown in the towel again."
5)JP on the BL:"We've been waiting for something like this to come along since we started this thing. We don't tell the Survivors anything about having to tell the truth about their occupations or anything else for that matter. (Pauses) You know, I've always said that if I did one of these things, I would come up with some off-the wall profession and tell everybody that my mother is deathly ill and my father is about to die."
6)Probst says Dalton, an art consultant from Virginia, takes the prize for "squirreliest" contestant ever. He's responsible for "the greatest lie ever told on Survivor," says Probst, who's heard a few whoppers.

Now keep in mind that I am still 100% against the ‘Osten is faking being a wuss’ theory. BUT, after considering this information, could it be that Osten REALIZES he’s being a wuss, then uses it to his advantage?

Suppose in this episode with Ghosties, they give the option to switch tribes, or have some kind of shuffling. Osten realize that people think he’s a wuss and might vote him out, so meets with the other odd-man out Jon to establish a strange alliance. Jon, rumored to be responsible for the lie (see #6 -- even if it was retracted, there was probably a reason this conclusion was jumped to by the reporter), hatches a brutal and brilliant plan to “save them”. Osten jumps ship --- to Drake. Jon, however, double-crosses Osten, whom he sees as a threat, and tells him he’ll be safer with them, but really, they just want to vote him out and/or use him for his ‘strength’ HA!

Big Lie: Jon convinces Osten to come to Drake to save himself. Brilliant, because they want Osten out. Brutal, because it works. ‘mother f-----r’ quality? Yes. Could JP have believed it… yes.
Big Regret: Osten jumping ship. Regrettable because Morgan would’ve voted out Ryan or Darrah, NOT Osten. Maybe Osten makes jury, so he’s still waiting for it to play out?

Wow, I’ve overthought this…. But it seems to fit. What did I miss, BR and Misto?


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 Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twist Pa...   mistofleas     10-21-03       
   *smooches*   jkokoj     10-21-03     1  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   volsfan     10-21-03     2  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   aethelstan     10-21-03     3  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-21-03     4  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Brownroach     10-21-03     9  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   FarmBoy     10-21-03     6  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   shuiheart     10-21-03     5  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Nash     10-21-03     7  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Abbynoxious     10-21-03     8  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Abbynoxious     10-21-03     10  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   katethegreat     10-21-03     11  
     agree kate   I_AM_HE     10-22-03     23  
         RE: agree kate   Loree     10-22-03     29  
         RE: agree kate   BeerNuts     10-22-03     35  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   PhoenixMons     10-21-03     12  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   toddE     10-21-03     20  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-21-03     13  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   shuiheart     10-21-03     14  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-21-03     15  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Spanky68     10-21-03     16  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   yensid     10-22-03     32  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   zzz     10-21-03     17  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Blow by Blow     10-22-03     33  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   aethelstan     10-21-03     18  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Jims02     10-21-03     19  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   oddout     10-21-03     21  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-21-03     22  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   smiley     10-22-03     24  
   M- - - - - f- - - - -   aethelstan     10-22-03     25  
     RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   pdragonfly     10-22-03     26  
     RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   mistofleas     10-22-03     28  
         RE: M- - - - - f- - - - -   aethelstan     10-22-03     30  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   johnnoah     10-22-03     27  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-22-03     31  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-22-03     34  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-22-03     36  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   oddout     10-22-03     38  
             Trying to reconcile...   PhoenixMons     10-23-03     41  
                 RE: Trying to reconcile...   Breezy     10-24-03     48  
         Article about Lill and BSA   Blow by Blow     10-22-03     37  
   Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   aethelstan     10-22-03     39  
     RE: Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   Acawap     10-22-03     40  
         RE: Big Twist/ Tie Breakers   Blow by Blow     10-23-03     43  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-23-03     42  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Nash     10-23-03     44  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   cleaningwoman     10-23-03     46  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Blow by Blow     10-23-03     45  
         Big Lie = Bonhome?   Chez     10-24-03     47  
             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Acawap     10-24-03     49  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Dominique     10-28-03     94  
             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     50  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   cleaningwoman     10-24-03     51  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     52  
                         RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   Acawap     10-24-03     53  
                             RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   YoHoHo     10-24-03     54  
                                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   pmspml5     10-24-03     55  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   1derfool     10-24-03     57  
                     RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   ADKer     10-25-03     58  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   pdragonfly     10-24-03     56  
                     i figured it out!!   fishtank     10-25-03     59  
                         RE: i figured it out!!   pdragonfly     10-25-03     60  
                         RE: i figured it out!!   Acawap     10-27-03     64  
                 RE: Big Lie = Bonhome?   PhoenixMons     10-26-03     62  
    Big Twist based on folklore?   1derfool     10-25-03     61  
     RE: Big Twist based on folklore?   mistofleas     10-27-03     63  
         I think it is Osten - not for the s...   PLC123     10-27-03     65  
             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     66  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Acawap     10-28-03     67  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   pmspml5     10-28-03     68  
                         RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   LeftPinky     10-28-03     69  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Brownroach     10-28-03     72  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   aethelstan     10-28-03     71  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Brownroach     10-28-03     74  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Joyful     10-28-03     77  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Bebo     10-28-03     78  
             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   lizzmac     10-28-03     70  
                 OSTEN QUITS!   ElroyJetson     10-28-03     80  
                 RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   toddE     10-28-03     83  
                     RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   lizzmac     10-28-03     84  
                         RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   Blow by Blow     10-28-03     88  
                             RE: I think it is Osten - not for t...   joannie     10-28-03     91  
   Other site news, and more-   Chez     10-28-03     73  
     RE: Other site news, and more-   Acawap     10-28-03     75  
         Osten assaulting someone!!!   Chez     10-28-03     93  
     RE: Other site news, and more-   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     76  
         RE: Other site news, and more-   pmspml5     10-28-03     79  
             RE: Other site news, and more-   VerucaSalt     10-28-03     81  
         Osten et al.   aethelstan     10-28-03     82  
             RE: Osten et al.   pdragonfly     10-28-03     85  
             RE: Osten et al.   Acawap     10-28-03     86  
                 We need to remember   jkokoj     10-28-03     87  
                     RE: We need to remember   Brownroach     10-28-03     89  
             RE: Osten et al.   BrassFan     10-29-03     99  
                 Good lie!   aethelstan     10-29-03     102  
                     RE: Good lie!   mistofleas     10-29-03     104  
                     RE: Good lie!   Dominique     10-29-03     105  
                 RE: Osten et al.   Breezy     10-29-03     103  
                     RE: Osten et al.   LeftPinky     10-29-03     106  
                         RE: Osten et al.   Dominique     10-29-03     107  
                 RE: Osten et al.   KObrien_fan     10-29-03     108  
                     RE: Osten et al.   BrassFan     10-29-03     113  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   blacknwhitedog     10-28-03     90  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Loquatrix     10-28-03     92  
         Osten   Devious Weasel     10-29-03     114  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   homie     10-29-03     96  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   pmspml5     10-29-03     97  
   BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mavsfan     10-29-03     95  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   pmspml5     10-29-03     98  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mistofleas     10-29-03     100  
     RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   Brownroach     10-29-03     101  
         RE: BL/BR-Jon/Rupert & context   mavsfan     10-29-03     123  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-29-03     109  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Brownroach     10-29-03     110  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-29-03     111  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   Acawap     10-29-03     112  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-29-03     115  
   About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Blow by Blow     10-29-03     116  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   pmspml5     10-29-03     117  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   mistofleas     10-29-03     118  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   VerucaSalt     10-29-03     119  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Blow by Blow     10-29-03     120  
     RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   KObrien_fan     10-29-03     121  
         RE: About Lill - pure rant (sorry)   Acawap     10-29-03     122  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret --Just a T...   cnsrol     10-30-03     124  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   BrassFan     10-30-03     125  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     10-30-03     126  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   badger     10-30-03     127  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   pmspml5     10-30-03     128  
                 RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   BrassFan     10-30-03     129  
   Regrettable incident is tonight   Brownroach     10-30-03     130  
     A Thought   Devious Weasel     10-30-03     131  
         RE: A Thought   Brownroach     10-30-03     132  
         RE: A Thought   Bebo     10-30-03     134  
     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   frisky     10-30-03     133  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   DoodleBug     10-30-03     135  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Acawap     10-30-03     136  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Devious Weasel     10-30-03     137  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   frisky     10-30-03     139  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   badger     10-30-03     140  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Brownroach     10-30-03     138  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Acawap     10-30-03     141  
                 RE: Really Christa weighs 125?   KObrien_fan     10-30-03     142  
                     RE: Really Christa weighs 125?   Acawap     10-30-03     143  
     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Barendd     10-30-03     144  
         RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   BrassFan     10-30-03     145  
             RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   ExInterper     10-30-03     146  
                 RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   Barendd     10-30-03     147  
                     RE: Regrettable incident is tonight   BrassFan     10-30-03     149  
   So now we know...   princessoftides     10-30-03     148  
     Big Lie   buckeyegirl     10-31-03     150  
         RE: Big Lie   VerucaSalt     10-31-03     151  
             RE: Big Lie   princessoftides     10-31-03     152  
   RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   mistofleas     10-31-03     153  
     RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   frisky     10-31-03     154  
         RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   buckeyegirl     10-31-03     155  
             RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   teffi     11-01-03     156  
                 RE: Big Lie / Big Regret / Big Twis...   VerucaSalt     11-01-03     157  
   where the fluff   cqvenus     11-02-03     158  

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