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8. "RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit..."

BR, what a wonderful welcome and the same to you as well. I knew I could count on you to start things off and thank you for the information on Brad. Far be it from me to presume anything on these contestants so this confirmation helps. I see that the recruitment process was in full force

KO, I fully expect your Nash perspective along with all your other wonderful observations and this season, as you say, adaptation is everything; within their own little circle and then the big picture. Race relations is just another nugget in this social game and it will be interesting to see if this has more impact when the tribes are with their own race or after they are integrated. What will be interesting is ferreting out those with the mentality of wanting their initial tribes perhaps to “prove something” or those who, in the spirit of this show, know that the ultimate goal is broadening their adaptation to get to the end. This has occurred before with gender issue involved and/or just original tribe mentality. Those stuck in that “rut” may end up on the losing side.

Pretty_Kitty and dreamerbeliever - so nice to see you and I am looking forward to hearing from you this season; it is very heartwarming to know that other posters are lovers of the story telling of this show and how it all comes together.

RudyRules - unfortunately my posts haven’t gotten any shorter and I have a feeling with what this season entails, they may cause a state of inertia lol

michel - always a pleasure to see you and your insights. I’ve added that additional commentary about Yul to the initial post. No doubt we will see many of these contestants fit that mold that we see often in the other seasons which just confirms that the story ultimately is about the individuals and race, gender, age, etc. are only potential catalysts.

The first episode may be full of some “muck” to weed through since a lot will be focused on the division of the tribes but we certainly can hone in on some clues as to the longevity of these players and naturally over the course of the show we should hopefully establish some of the clues we look for in the end game players

Three dimensional vs. one dimensional (the winner is not a cookie cutter cut out, there are different facets to them even if one personality trait, etc. is magnified)

The longer term players (and winner) will not only be heard from but we ultimately hear about them from others (and quite often what we hear is worry that this person may win and consequently the winner may discuss their worries about not winning)

A larger than life character typically does fairly well but usually does not win

The “final two foil” will at times tend to make the audience doubt the authenticity of the winner since the show does want to create some element of a climatic ending

Under the radar is not necessarily someone who is just coasting along quietly; one can be UTR in the sense that the other players would not imagine that person would be a threat to win

Let’s not forget how typically alliances revealed generally do not succeed en masse (there may be a subset of that alliance that will succeed but vocalization of an entire alliance usually falls by the wayside)

Numbers, numbers, numbers; those pesky things! Listing of boot orders, listing of pecking orders and the like usually result in failure.

What ISN’T said sometimes can be as important as what IS said. If you watch a scene and question why was something shown when it didn’t have to be, that may be helpful. In the same token, if something wasn’t shown and it was left out, this too could be helpful.

Confessional and face time IS important; it is just a question of discerning what is “fluff” and what is meaningful.

I will pose one pre show question to whomever wishes to respond. Again, this is not designed to cause people to be offended or defensive. As some of you who are participants in this thread know, I often pose questions and ask for gender of the person or geographical location, etc. in order to reach some conclusions on how the show is viewed. In this instance, race is often a sensitive subject but this is no different as when I have asked questions with respect to gender or age, etc. Please know that I am only looking for responses as opposed to any debates and I also ask because with a setting such as this, I cannot fathom it won’t be discussed by the contestants themselves (we certainly saw age and gender discussed in prior seasons)

With respect to the initial breakdown of the tribes are there any advantages or disadvantages you see that will occur?

For example, the Amazon season was broken down men vs. women. It was no surprise that many felt the women would be at a disadvantage physically in certain challenges along with general living. This too was also believed with the vast difference in the Koror and Ulong tribes with respect to the physical competitions (mind you that this observations does not take into account the sourced information as I learned post game of the magnitude of spoilers with respect to Ulong getting obliterated) and let’s not forget stereotypes associated with people like Tom from Africa based on his geographical location; I would suggest that many people didn’t feel his IQ was the same number as someone like Ethan

In other words, can you conceive of any tribe lacking in any area and/or excelling based upon the makeup of the tribes and yes, the stereotypes associated? I certainly felt the Amazon women would not meet up to the physical standards of the men but also knew that the women’s mentality of showing the men they were tough may negate my automatic opinion.

Would it not be interesting to end up seeing what we saw of last season’s final four; one member from each original tribe?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 The Players, The Game, The Editing ...   VerucaSalt     09-11-06       
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Brownroach     09-11-06     1  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Capn2patch     09-12-06     11  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   KObrien_fan     09-11-06     2  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Pretty_Kitty     09-11-06     3  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   michel     09-11-06     4  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Brownroach     09-12-06     7  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   RudyRules     09-11-06     5  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dreamerbeliever     09-11-06     6  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   VerucaSalt     09-12-06     8  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Flowerpower     09-12-06     9  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Chez     09-14-06     17  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   KObrien_fan     09-12-06     10  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   geg6     09-14-06     12  
                 RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Brownroach     09-14-06     13  
                     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   geg6     09-14-06     15  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Brownroach     09-14-06     14  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   geg6     09-14-06     16  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Velcrohead     09-14-06     18  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   VerucaSalt     09-14-06     19  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   geg6     09-14-06     20  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Velcrohead     09-14-06     21  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Outfrontgirl     09-14-06     22  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   PepeLePew13     09-15-06     23  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Corvis     09-15-06     25  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Georgianna     09-16-06     30  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Brownroach     09-15-06     24  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   emydi     09-15-06     27  
   Episode 1- The music and some quote...   KObrien_fan     09-15-06     26  
     RE: Episode 1- The music and some q...   PepeLePew13     09-15-06     28  
         RE: Episode 1 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     09-15-06     29  
             RE: Episode 1 Thoughts   Quest     09-16-06     31  
             RE: Episode 1 Thoughts   michel     09-16-06     32  
                 RE: Episode 1 Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     09-16-06     33  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Velcrohead     09-16-06     34  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   KObrien_fan     09-16-06     35  
   Ep 1 comments   emydi     09-16-06     36  
     RE: Ep 1 comments   KObrien_fan     09-16-06     37  
     Visuals   michel     09-17-06     38  
         RE: Visuals   KObrien_fan     09-17-06     39  
             RE: Post 1 Editing   VerucaSalt     09-17-06     40  
                 RE: Post 1 Editing   Brownroach     09-18-06     42  
                     RE: Post 1 Editing   emydi     09-18-06     43  
         RE: Visuals   emydi     09-17-06     41  
             RE: Visuals   VerucaSalt     09-18-06     44  
                 RE: Visuals   Brownroach     09-18-06     45  
                     Episode One   VerucaSalt     09-18-06     46  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   architecturegirl     09-19-06     47  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   VerucaSalt     09-19-06     48  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   forehead     09-19-06     49  
             Just an aside...   Brownroach     09-19-06     50  
                 RE: Just an aside...   emydi     09-19-06     51  
                     RE: Just an aside...   VerucaSalt     09-20-06     52  
                         RE: Just an aside...   forehead     09-20-06     53  
                             RE: Just an aside...   architecturegirl     09-20-06     54  
                                 RE: Just an aside...   VerucaSalt     09-20-06     55  
                                     RE: Episode 2 thoughts   VerucaSalt     09-22-06     56  
                                         RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Brownroach     09-22-06     57  
                                         RE: Episode 2 thoughts   architecturegirl     09-22-06     58  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Outfrontgirl     09-22-06     59  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Brownroach     09-23-06     62  
                                         RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Outfrontgirl     09-22-06     60  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Flowerpower     09-23-06     61  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Brownroach     09-23-06     63  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   michel     09-23-06     64  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   mavs_fan     09-23-06     65  
                                             RE: Episode 2 thoughts   Velcrohead     09-24-06     69  
   The music editing of Episode 2   KObrien_fan     09-23-06     66  
     RE: The music editing of Episode 2   emydi     09-23-06     67  
   Ep2--White Birds, Hermit Crabs and ...   emydi     09-23-06     68  
     RE: Ep2--White Birds, Hermit Crabs ...   VerucaSalt     09-24-06     70  
         RE: Ep2--White Birds, Hermit Crabs ...   Brownroach     09-25-06     71  
             RE: Ep2--White Birds, Hermit Crabs ...   VerucaSalt     09-26-06     72  
                 RE: Ep. 3 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     09-30-06     75  
   Episode 3 Thoughts   Velcrohead     09-30-06     73  
      Episode 3 Thoughts   michel     09-30-06     74  
          Episode 3 Thoughts--Flicka I am yo...   emydi     09-30-06     76  
             RE: Episode 3 Thoughts   Velcrohead     10-01-06     78  
   Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bird ch...   emydi     10-01-06     77  
     RE: Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bir...   VerucaSalt     10-02-06     79  
         RE: Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bir...   michel     10-02-06     80  
             RE: Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bir...   emydi     10-02-06     81  
             RE: Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bir...   VerucaSalt     10-03-06     83  
     RE: Ep 3 Animals and Ep 4 White bir...   architecturegirl     10-02-06     82  
   Episode 3 music and end game predic...   KObrien_fan     10-03-06     84  
     RE: Episode 3 music and end game pr...   phatl     10-03-06     85  
   Episode 3 Analysis - sorry so late   architecturegirl     10-05-06     86  
     RE: Episode 3 Analysis - sorry so l...   forehead     10-05-06     87  
         RE: Episode 3 Analysis - sorry so l...   architecturegirl     10-05-06     88  
             RE: Episode 3 Analysis - sorry so l...   Brownroach     10-05-06     89  
                 RE: Episode 3 Analysis - sorry so l...   architecturegirl     10-05-06     90  
   EP 4--Just what do little oobies ta...   emydi     10-08-06     91  
     RE: EP 4--Just what do little oobie...   Flowerpower     10-08-06     92  
         RE: EP 4-- Teamwork   michel     10-08-06     93  
   Episode 4 Thoughts   Velcrohead     10-08-06     94  
     RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   michel     10-08-06     95  
         RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-09-06     96  
             RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   michel     10-09-06     97  
             RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   Flowerpower     10-09-06     98  
             RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   Flowerpower     10-11-06     99  
             RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   architecturegirl     10-12-06     100  
                 RE: Episode 4 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-12-06     101  
                     RE: Episode 5 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-13-06     102  
                         EP 5 EEK!! The Centipede is BACK!!   emydi     10-14-06     103  
                             RE: EP 5 EEK!! The Centipede is BAC...   Outfrontgirl     10-21-06     109  
                         RE: Episode 5 Thoughts   VolcanicGlass     10-14-06     104  
                             RE: Episode 5 Thoughts   Flowerpower     10-14-06     105  
                         RE: Episode 5 Thoughts   michel     10-14-06     106  
                             RE: Episode 5 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-16-06     107  
                                 RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-20-06     108  
                                     RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   michel     10-21-06     110  
                                         RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   VerucaSalt     10-22-06     111  
                                         RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   mimo     10-23-06     112  
                                             RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   forehead     10-23-06     113  
                                             RE: Episode 6 Thoughts   Flowerpower     10-24-06     114  
   Ep 6 the animals   emydi     10-24-06     115  
     RE: Ep 6 the animals   Flowerpower     10-25-06     116  
     RE: Ep 6 the animals   architecturegirl     10-25-06     117  
         RE: Ep 6 the animals   VerucaSalt     10-25-06     118  
             RE: Ep 6 the animals   Flowerpower     10-25-06     119  
                 Ozzy's insider gems   forehead     10-25-06     120  
                     RE: Ozzy's insider gems   architecturegirl     10-25-06     121  
                         RE: Ozzy's insider gems   tikigirlie     10-26-06     122  
                             RE: Ozzy's insider gems   architecturegirl     10-26-06     123  
   How about some recap?   michel     10-28-06     124  

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