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17. "RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ..."
Okay, a couple of things are clear every new season.
1. Studios often choose to ride the waves of previous winning styles. For every new show that becomes a hit, four of the same genre show up for the next cycle. These are pale imitations and almost NEVER capture the fans of the previous "landmark" series.

2. Studios think that past tv stars have enough draw power of their own to sustain whatever new series they are thrown into.
There are standards, set by Bea Arthur, Bob Newhart and Mary Tyler Moore, so it can be done. However, we are no longer tied to the studio system as it was in the 60's, 70's and 80's. There are a vast amount of other studios making new shows with new characters and testing new ground. Aside from Betty White, no one star can illicit overwhelming feelings of "must see" for everyone.

3. Retreads, Remakes and Revivals. While traditionally meaning cheaper, better, faster...it often leads to a been there, seen that, over it response. They keep trying though. And also of note is that the occasional spin-off will succeed through this same sort of intention but more often than not it won't.

4. Every new season, more shows get canceled than get renewed. There will be lots and lots of victims. Luckily for them, Hollywood has less of a memory recall than the viewing public.

So with those 4 points out of the way, I will begin my version of the Cancelled List; with a lot of demises.

Cancelled:
ABC
666 Park Avenue - American Horror Story with a lot less scare.
The Family Tools - With an "Earl" pedigree, it's doubtful we will be savoring yet another delightfully delinquent shlubb, let alone two of them.
How to Live With Your Parents for the Rest of Your Life - Killed itself through title alone.
Malibu Country - horrifyingly loose and unbelievable concept
Mistresses - Retreading of Army Wives, Basketball Wives, etc.
Red Widow - Dutch TV for American? Nope.
Zero Hour - So what is it about?

CBS
Elementary - Interesting concept and may indeed be able to grab an audience. However, I don't see them hanging on for long as both main characters come off as annoyingly Monk-House-ish.
Golden Boy - horrifying title, but the premise has worked before. Many many times before. It will come down to likeability of the main character and I'm sorry the Golden Boy is not as golden as his name would imply.
The Job - Apprentice in Uniforms. Too meager a concept. I do see some gaining interest when the premise is stitched down and when certain job types become the focus, but 2 out of 12 shows that resound with audiences is not enough to renew. Even if it costs them millions less.
Made in Jersey - An Ally McBeal for the 21st century. Exactly. Funny, quirky, love-lorn office politics? That work environment just doesn't jive with current status quo.
Partners - Thanks Modern Family. Your inclusion of Gay Parents has had it's own genre bubble. Sadly for 'Partners', it's neither the funny or prescient one.
Vegas - This will have some fervent fans. A small rabid group who may potentially take on-line signatures to keep it afloat. They may succeed temporarily, but it will not be filming a 100th episode.

CW
Arrow - They've had success with Smallville but every other attempt at humanizing superheroes has fallen waay short. Written by drama-oriented writers means even more boring emotionally 'taut' situations and less meat-and-potatoes action.
Not to mention centering it around a less popular hero to begin with. Green Lantern, I could see. Even Green Hornet. But Green Arrow?
Beauty and the Beast - Totally personal, but I do not see the attraction with woman falls for beast storylines. Hopefully women are stronger and more self-loving these days.
The Carrie Diaries - Prequel to sex in the city. But taking out the most popular thing about the previous show, the Sex, and adding in gossiping girls, pretty little liars and revenge. Blah.
Emily Owens, M.D. - Hospital dynamics are no different than HighSchool? Ummm... really? Did the 6+ years of college teach you nothing? Sorry, too stupid to be licensed. Or renewed.

Fox
Ben and Kate - Raising Hope retread. But missing the outrageousness of regular folks factor. I actually think this might fly at first, it has the tone of a magic-moment in television, with it's new and seasoned actors and production that is as varied.
The Following - The premise is golden, the actors are popular, the producers are artists... so why will it be cancelled? Because it will be expensive. With all the big names money will be an issue and only a certified blockbuster will warrant a renewal. They need 10 million to break even, and that will not be reached, for at least a year or more.
The Goodwin Games - Nearest story-likeness: King Ralph. Posing loving family members against each other for the chance to live life a life of wealth? I couldn't care less.
The Mindy Project - This show is already the butt of many jokes from writing, producing, casting and title changes. A product of too many cooks in the kitchen.
The Mob Doctor - Seriously? How remote is this premise? A chest doctor solves the medical emergencies of the very people she despises. Another spin on good women making bad decisions. What is wrong with series creators these days?

NBC
1600 Penn - Normal family life within the White House is an oxymoron. I don't see a situation where the audience will feel connected, ever.
Animal Practice - Office in a hospital, with animals. *eyeroll*
Chicago Fire - In order for it to last it will have to be gritty and realistic. My thought is that they'll go the Grey's Anatomy route and try to sex it up. This won't fly these days.
Do No Harm - The ultimate self-sabotage storyline, but this time with a man at the center. Will people care to watch his inner-demons wrestle with each other, kill many many people and not wish that he would do us all a favor and commit suicide?
Go On - This is the closest Matthew Perry has come to being in a potentially successful post-'friends' show. With that being said, it all rests on his shoulders and he has weak shoulders.
Guys With Kids - I watched this and it is NOT funny. But I also thought the same thing about 2 Broke Girls and look what that lead to.
Infamous - A Revenge Rip-Off. I don't care if it is different in tone, or even quality, it will not be considered a hit as it will NOT perform better than the original base-material.
Next Caller - With Dane Cook on the cast, it's pretty much a forgone conclusion.


So, with that out of the way, it looks like the following shows may actually see their contracts renewed, if not temporarily.

ABC
Last Resort - A renegade nuclear power off the coast of a corrupt America? Prescient? Yes. Believable? Possibly. It's biggest obstacle at the moment is to either cut down the cost, or amass huge audiences. While the promos aren't exactly forthcoming with storyline, they sure do focus on adventure and action. Could do well.
Nashville - A bigger better 'Country Strong'. With Callie on the writing team, expect strong female characters. With Connie Britton playing one of those strong female characters look for multiple emmy nominations. Let's hope not just women are interested in this concept.
The Neighbors - Every so often, alien comedies come along and succeed. However, as to why they don't ever illicit genre rip-offs is beyond me. ALF, successful; 3rd Rock, successful; Mork and Mindy, successful; My favorite Martian, successful. The Neighbors? Successful. Look forward to at least a couple of years of clapping above your head, to denote the change in appearance.

CBS
Friend Me - Horrible Title. But even 'You Got Mail' was good. Not as good as 'Sleepless in Seattle' but nevertheless ratings were good. I suspect the same thing for Friend Me. The popularity of the show rides on the connection between Mintz-Plasse and Braun.

CW
Cult - Even though there is another 'Cult' related series premiering (see "The Following") this is more connected to the current social-networking frame of the spread of information and overall seems more apt to catch the eye of viewers. Luckily for them the CW doesn't require reaching 10s of millions of viewers in order to be judged successful.

NBC
Crossbones - Pirates on TV?! Sign Me Up! A genre which may very well lead into it's own rip-offs next season.
The New Normal - Funnier, more current and wittier writers than Partners. More appealing characters (Yes, even the bigoted grandmother, Ellen Barkin.) and even Nene Leakes is tolerable. Perhaps not the fervent fandom of Glee, but will definitely be nominated come award season.
Revolution - Completely on the fence about this one. Pedigree is huge but the promise of something exciting and new is unknown. Add to that sloppy promos and a non-concise premise and it spells feast or famine. We either buy it totally or are so turned off by the hype it goes the 'John Carter' route.
They'll have to pare down the budget to make it work long-term. We'll have to be connected to the family drama and with over-emoters like Giancarlo Esposito and Billy Burke it's unlikely to happen. But it could happen.



And speaking of, some new syndicate offerings...

Cancelled:
Steve Harvey - A doofus with a mic. An hour long, 'let's laugh at the pitiable host'. Interviews are a joke (about the host), honest reactions are overly scripted and edited. This is a bad show and Ellen should be embarassed for all the dual promos she did to help promote his show.


Renewed:
Jeff Probst - Promising. He's strong enough in character to not stoop, yet he's also extremely approachable and watchable. No doubt he's a good interviewer, if not a bit too inquisitive. But in this age of full revelations it fits well. It will depend on whether we are really more apt to tune in for celebrities or relatively regular people. Because he is definitely aiming for the regular people.

and is anybody watch Totally Biased with W Kamau Bell?
This show is good. Real good. We may very well be looking at our new Bill Maher.

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 TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 - Lo...   Tummy     07-20-12       
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   foonermints     07-20-12     1  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Estee     07-20-12     2  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   foonermints     07-20-12     3  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Molaholic     09-14-12     12  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   cahaya     09-14-12     13  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   zombiebaby     07-20-12     4  
     Wasn't   foonermints     07-20-12     5  
     Revolution   weltek     09-19-12     29  
         RE: Revolution   zombiebaby     09-19-12     30  
             RE: Revolution   Tummy     09-19-12     31  
         RE: Revolution   HobbsofMI     09-19-12     33  
         RE: Revolution   Sagebrush Dan     09-25-12     45  
             RE: Revolution   HobbsofMI     09-26-12     47  
                 RE: Revolution   weltek     09-28-12     58  
                     RE: Revolution   HobbsofMI     10-05-12     70  
                         RE: Revolution   HobbsofMI     10-09-12     77  
                     It's not just you.   Estee     10-19-12     99  
                         RE: It's not just you.   Bebo     10-22-12     116  
                             RE: It's not just you.   HobbsofMI     10-24-12     130  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   bondt007     07-20-12     6  
   Probst is going syndicated....   Snidget     07-22-12     7  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-13-12     8  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Estee     09-13-12     9  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   bondt007     09-13-12     10  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Estee     09-13-12     11  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   weltek     09-14-12     16  
   Elementary   Starshine     09-14-12     14  
     RE: Elementary   Starshine     11-07-12     145  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   samboohoo     09-14-12     15  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-16-12     18  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   bondt007     09-17-12     24  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-17-12     26  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   samboohoo     09-19-12     35  
                 RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-19-12     36  
                     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   samboohoo     09-20-12     37  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   tribephyl     09-14-12     17  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   PepeLePew13     09-19-12     32  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   CTgirl     09-19-12     34  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-20-12     38  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   tribephyl     09-20-12     39  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Bebo     09-16-12     19  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-16-12     20  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-17-12     21  
             Well HaRUMPH   moonbaby     09-17-12     22  
                 RE: Well HaRUMPH   CTgirl     09-17-12     23  
                     RE: Well HaRUMPH   Tummy     09-17-12     25  
                     RE: Well HaRUMPH   Bebo     09-17-12     27  
                         Once Upon a Time...   moonbaby     09-24-12     41  
                             RE: Once Upon a Time...   CTgirl     09-24-12     42  
                                 RE: Once Upon a Time...   Tummy     09-25-12     43  
                                     I'll never catch up in time   moonbaby     09-26-12     48  
                                         RE: I'll never catch up in time   Tummy     09-27-12     52  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Bebo     09-25-12     44  
   Last Resort Pilot on Hulu   suzzee     09-18-12     28  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   KwietOne     09-21-12     40  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   KwietOne     09-26-12     49  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Sagebrush Dan     09-28-12     55  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   kidflash212     09-28-12     56  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-26-12     46  
   Animal Practice & Guys with Kids   weltek     09-27-12     50  
     RE: Animal Practice & Guys with Kid...   Tummy     09-27-12     51  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-27-12     53  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Sagebrush Dan     09-28-12     54  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     09-28-12     57  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   weltek     09-28-12     59  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   HobbsofMI     10-01-12     65  
                 RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Sagebrush Dan     10-19-12     98  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   KwietOne     09-28-12     60  
   Partners   samboohoo     09-28-12     61  
   Yahoo's List of Shows In Trouble   Bebo     09-29-12     62  
     RE: Yahoo's List of Shows In Troubl...   kidflash212     09-30-12     63  
     RE: Yahoo's List of Shows In Troubl...   KwietOne     10-01-12     66  
     RE: Yahoo's List of Shows In Troubl...   Sagebrush Dan     10-09-12     79  
   666 Park Avenue   zombiebaby     10-01-12     64  
     RE: 666 Park Avenue   samboohoo     10-09-12     74  
   Last Resort   trigirl     10-05-12     67  
     RE: Last Resort   newsomewayne     10-05-12     68  
         RE: Last Resort   weltek     10-05-12     69  
     RE: Last Resort   blacknwhitedog     10-12-12     87  
         RE: Last Resort   Bebo     10-12-12     88  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   KwietOne     10-06-12     71  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   foonermints     10-06-12     72  
   Likes   samboohoo     10-07-12     73  
     RE: Likes   kidflash212     10-09-12     75  
         RE: Likes   samboohoo     10-09-12     78  
   Full Season Pickups So Far   Bebo     10-09-12     76  
     RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   Tummy     10-10-12     80  
         RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   Bebo     10-10-12     81  
             RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   Tummy     10-10-12     82  
                 RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   Bebo     10-10-12     84  
     More Pickups   Bebo     10-10-12     86  
     RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   AyaK     10-19-12     104  
         RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   HobbsofMI     10-29-12     136  
             RE: Full Season Pickups So Far   AyaK     11-06-12     144  
   First to die...   Snidget     10-10-12     83  
     RE: First to die...   Bebo     10-10-12     85  
         RE: First to die...   Tummy     10-15-12     90  
     ZOMBIES!!   kidflash212     11-06-12     143  
   Arrow   Bebo     10-12-12     89  
     RE: Arrow   Tummy     10-15-12     91  
     RE: Arrow   kidflash212     10-15-12     92  
   RIP Animal Practice   Bebo     10-18-12     93  
     RE: RIP Animal Practice   weltek     10-19-12     94  
         RE: RIP Animal Practice   byoffer     10-19-12     97  
             RE: RIP Animal Practice   VisionQuest     10-19-12     106  
     An October 19th State of Mind   Bebo     10-19-12     101  
   Premature burial.   Estee     10-19-12     95  
     RE: Premature burial.   Tummy     10-19-12     96  
         RE: Premature burial.   CTgirl     10-19-12     102  
             RE: Premature burial.   bondt007     10-22-12     111  
   swoop   agman     10-19-12     100  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   KwietOne     10-19-12     103  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Max Headroom     10-19-12     105  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   samboohoo     10-21-12     107  
     Chicago Fire   susang     10-22-12     108  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   newsomewayne     10-22-12     109  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     10-22-12     110  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   agman     10-22-12     112  
                 RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     10-23-12     119  
                     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   agman     10-23-12     123  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   AyaK     10-22-12     113  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   AyaK     10-23-12     118  
                 RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Tummy     10-23-12     120  
   Arrow News   Bebo     10-22-12     114  
     RE: Arrow News   Tummy     10-23-12     121  
   666 Park Ave and Last Resort   Bebo     10-22-12     115  
     RE: 666 Park Ave and Last Resort   HobbsofMI     10-22-12     117  
         RE: 666 Park Ave and Last Resort   HobbsofMI     11-16-12     148  
             RE: 666 Park Ave and Last Resort   Bebo     11-16-12     150  
   How did they make it through last s...   weltek     10-23-12     122  
     RE: How did they make it through la...   Tummy     10-23-12     127  
   Nashville.   Max Headroom     10-23-12     124  
     RE: Nashville.   agman     10-23-12     125  
     RE: Nashville.   Tummy     10-23-12     128  
         RE: Nashville.   samboohoo     10-29-12     134  
             RE: Nashville.   Round Robin     10-30-12     138  
             RE: Nashville.   Tummy     10-30-12     139  
                 RE: Nashville.   samboohoo     10-30-12     140  
     RE: Nashville.   weltek     10-24-12     129  
     RE: Nashville.   HobbsofMI     10-24-12     131  
         RE: Nashville.   AyaK     10-31-12     141  
             RE: Nashville.   Flowerpower     11-30-12     161  
   Vegas and Elementary   Bebo     10-23-12     126  
     RE: Vegas and Elementary   samboohoo     10-29-12     135  
   Mockingbird Lane   dabo     10-26-12     132  
   Irony?   Estee     10-29-12     133  
     RE: Irony?   agman     10-29-12     137  
         RE: Irony?   AyaK     10-31-12     142  
   Partners   Bebo     11-16-12     146  
     RE: Partners   Estee     11-16-12     147  
     RE: Partners   kidflash212     11-17-12     153  
   2 More Gone   Bebo     11-16-12     149  
     RE: 2 More Gone   VisionQuest     11-17-12     151  
     RE: 2 More Gone   Starshine     11-17-12     152  
     RE: 2 More Gone   bondt007     11-17-12     154  
     RE: 2 More Gone   samboohoo     11-18-12     157  
   RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   bondt007     11-17-12     155  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   VisionQuest     11-17-12     156  
         RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   agman     11-30-12     159  
             RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   AyaK     01-23-13     171  
     RE: TV Fall Season New Shows- 2012 ...   Max Headroom     11-30-12     160  
   Emily Owens, RIP   Bebo     11-29-12     158  
   Take It All.   Estee     12-11-12     162  
   Worst possible HIMYM news.   Estee     12-24-12     163  
     RE: Worst possible HIMYM news.   dabo     12-24-12     164  
   Reality show resurrection.   Estee     12-26-12     165  
     RE: Reality show resurrection.   byoffer     12-26-12     166  
         Schmoback.   Estee     12-27-12     167  
   The Taste.   Estee     01-22-13     168  
     RE: The Taste.   bondt007     01-22-13     169  
         RE: The Taste.   Estee     01-23-13     172  
             RE: The Taste.   Starshine     01-23-13     173  
                 RE: The Taste.   weltek     01-25-13     174  
     RE: The Taste.   Estee     02-06-13     178  
   TV Winter Season New Shows- 2013 - ...   bondt007     01-22-13     170  
     RE: TV Winter Season New Shows- 201...   Tummy     01-27-13     175  
         RE: TV Winter Season New Shows- 201...   bondt007     02-05-13     177  
   Second, do no ratings.   Estee     02-01-13     176  
   The Job   dabo     02-20-13     179  
     RE: The Job   Estee     02-20-13     180  
   Big Brother: Canada Edition.   Estee     02-20-13     181  
     RE: Big Brother: Canada Edition.   kingfish     02-22-13     183  
     RE: Big Brother: Canada Edition.   Starshine     02-22-13     184  
         RE: Big Brother: Canada Edition.   Estee     02-22-13     185  
   NBC: The Fifth-Place Network.   Estee     02-22-13     182  
     RE: NBC: The Fifth-Place Network.   bondt007     02-22-13     186  

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