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50. "Revisiting Dawn's Edit"
The story that Jeff says they tell over and over again is how the Hero (the eventual winner), accompanied by one trusted friend, battles the Villain. Batman and Robin as the Dynamic Duo against the Joker. That story worked best in Survivor’s most successful season, the Outback, where we had Tina and Colby fighting together against Jerri. We saw the pattern again with Rupert and Sandra against Fairplay, Amber and Rob against Lex, Chris and Twila against Ami, Tom and Ian against Katie, Aras and Cirie against Terry.

Sometimes it’s a duo against everybody else: Rich and Rudy against Pagong, Danni and Rafe against the Axis of Evil, Yul and Ozzy against Raro, Earl and Yau Man against the 4 Horsemen, Todd and Amanda against Jean Robert, James and Zhan Hu, JT and Stephen against Timbira.

Being an unscripted show, the roles aren’t always as clearly defined. For example Ian and Katie were friends. Or one can think of Bob and Sugar against Kenny where Matty would have fit better than Bob who took his place next to Sugar very late in the season. Or Jenna and Heidi against Rob when it would have been so much better, for the editors and many of the viewers, if it had been Rob and Matt against Jenna. The one constant is that the two friends come to rely completely on each other through most of the game.

Who forms the dynamic duo this season? We have, on one side: Coach with one of Brandon, Sophie, Albert or Edna. On the other: Cochran and Dawn. It’s immediately clear that Sophie, Albert and Edna’s stories don’t have the amplitude associated with the players listed above. Between Brandon and Coach, we know that there are issues. Coach even said that Brandon will be shocked to learn some things later. The trust isn’t like we saw in those other examples.

No, the duo that fits best is Cochran and Dawn so, therefore, the antagonist is Coach.

The next question obviously is: Does this season fit the pattern well, partially or not at all? Since Jeff mentioned it before this season, we have to assume it does. Afterall, he did mention Game Theory just before Cesternino was about to show it in action.

The biggest question is: Cochran or Dawn? Who is the Hero, who is the sidekick?

Thinking about this showed me flaws in Cochran’s edit:

In episode 1 Semhar said something like Cochran was playing the game in his head, not really playing. (I’d love the exact quote but Global has erased the video)

In episode 2 Mark said that John’s biggest problem was that, physically, he would be a threat to himself.

In the latest episode, Dawn said: “I won’t say a thing, I am just going to let you play…To me, that’s just like starting a war and that’s not how you remedy something…Why would they watch out for you over their own people? If they had two people winning immunity today, they wouldn’t even be talking to you…You totally have to play wour game but I am telling you: What goes around, comes around. I think the way you treat people totally affects the way you live your life and I think that is going to affect them in this game.”

Maybe Papa Bear was right about Cochran hurting himself but socially, not physically. Maybe Semhar is right and Cochran’s move was great on paper but not in real-life Survivor. And, even if Dawn meant that the CoolKids would get what’s coming to them, in this social game the implication is that Cochran will get hurt for starting this war.

Those doubts aren’t the kind we want to find in an eventual winner because they question his character, not his circumstances.

Dawn could very well be our winner and it came to me that most of my concerns about her center on game analysis, not editing analysis. Her edit does have flaws, mostly that she was often ignored, not part of the story. That her own story was more about proving herself than winning (much like Yau Man, Ian, Stephen…) Another problem is that we heard Dawn change her mind only after we had heard her saying she was safe from the vote. It makes her look very much like an opportunist. Some might even say a hypocrite.

Game wise, she is in a big predicament but we have seen that there are cracks in the Upolu 6. Maybe Rick’s surprise at receiving votes caused another fracture. Galu’s John had told us it wasn’t fun being designated as the pawn so maybe Rick will have the same reaction when he learns that Sophie knew he was Savaii’s target and didn’t tell him. Rick, Dawn and Cochran; that’s still only three votes but once the rest of Savaii is gone, they’ll be needing only 1 or 2 more.

It’s interesting to note that, by leaving a “mom” that cared for him, Cochran joined a “father” that may not be too compassionate.

The recap of next episode will be interesting. Will Jeff say that Dawn tried to save Cochran from making a dangerous move, will he say that Cochran took his fate in his own hands or will that scene, the last exchange between Dawn and Cochran, be ignored. If Jeff implies that Dawn was the voice of reason, I will have to seriously reconsider my pick.


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 The Players, The Game, The Editing ...   dabo     11-04-11       
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   samboohoo     11-04-11     1  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-04-11     2  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   glennyfromtheblock     11-05-11     3  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     4  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     6  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     7  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     9  
                 RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     10  
                 RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-05-11     11  
                     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Corvis     11-05-11     12  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-05-11     14  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     17  
                     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     23  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-06-11     24  
                             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-06-11     30  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   PepeLePew13     11-05-11     8  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   michel     11-06-11     35  
   I Don't Believe in Redemption!   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     5  
     RE: I Don't Believe in Redemption!   Corvis     11-05-11     13  
   Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-05-11     15  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-05-11     16  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-05-11     19  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-05-11     21  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   glennyfromtheblock     11-05-11     20  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-05-11     18  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     22  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     25  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     26  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-06-11     29  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     31  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-06-11     33  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     32  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     37  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-06-11     39  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Brownroach     11-07-11     49  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Flowerpower     11-07-11     43  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-07-11     51  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Flowerpower     11-07-11     52  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   blueeyed     11-06-11     27  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     28  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-06-11     34  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   blueeyed     11-06-11     36  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Slider     11-06-11     41  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-06-11     42  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   parathor     11-07-11     44  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Dangerous     11-06-11     38  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   dabo     11-06-11     40  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   stu45     11-07-11     45  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-07-11     46  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   dabo     11-07-11     47  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-07-11     48  
     Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     50  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Flowerpower     11-07-11     53  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     56  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   blueeyed     11-07-11     54  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     55  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   dabo     11-08-11     57  
         RE: Cochran = Anakin?   parathor     11-08-11     58  
             RE: Cochran = Anakin?   stu45     11-08-11     59  
                 RE: Cochran = Anakin?   PepeLePew13     11-08-11     60  
                     Nerd love   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     61  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     62  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-08-11     63  
                 RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     64  
                     RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Belle Book     11-09-11     65  
                     RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Delurker_MN     11-10-11     66  
   Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-12-11     67  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Delurker_MN     11-12-11     68  
         RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     74  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Belle Book     11-12-11     69  
         RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Slider     11-12-11     70  
             RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   rose1974     11-13-11     71  
                 RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     73  
             RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     72  
                 RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Belle Book     11-13-11     75  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   parathor     11-14-11     76  
   Jim (potential juror) assesses Coch...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     77  
     RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     78  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   stu45     11-15-11     79  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     80  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   michel     11-15-11     81  
             Just FYI   dabo     11-16-11     82  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-16-11     83  
             some John edit stuff   OllieKat     11-16-11     84  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   dabo     11-16-11     85  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   michel     11-16-11     88  
                     RE: some John edit stuff   dabo     11-16-11     90  
                         RE: some John edit stuff   michel     11-16-11     91  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   stu45     11-17-11     97  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   VerucaSalt     11-16-11     86  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Booted     11-16-11     87  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-16-11     89  
   Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     92  
     RE: Ozzy   baddove     11-17-11     93  
         RE: Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     94  
             I will add this though   kiki_k     11-17-11     96  
                 RE: I will add this though   parathor     11-17-11     111  
                     RE: I will add this though   kiki_k     11-17-11     113  
         RE: Ozzy   Lasann     11-17-11     95  
     RE: Ozzy   Scarlett O Hara     11-17-11     98  
         RE: Ozzy   Lasann     11-18-11     131  
     RE: Ozzy   Flowerpower     11-17-11     99  
         RE: Ozzy   PepeLePew13     11-17-11     100  
             RE: Ozzy   Belle Book     11-17-11     110  
     RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     101  
         RE: Ozzy   Flowerpower     11-17-11     102  
             RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     104  
                 RE: Ozzy   CTgirl     11-17-11     107  
             RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     105  
             LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-17-11     108  
                 RE: LMFAO!   michel     11-17-11     114  
                     RE: LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-17-11     115  
                         RE: LMFAO!   michel     11-17-11     116  
                         RE: LMFAO!   dabo     11-18-11     117  
                             RE: LMFAO!   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     118  
                         RE: LMFAO!   Delurker_MN     11-18-11     119  
                             RE: LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-18-11     122  
     RE: Ozzy   CTgirl     11-17-11     103  
     RE: Ozzy   Belle Book     11-17-11     106  
         RE: Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     109  
         One more thing   kiki_k     11-17-11     112  
         RE: Ozzy   Delurker_MN     11-18-11     120  
             Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     121  
                 RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     123  
                 RE: Sophie power   kiki_k     11-18-11     124  
                 RE: Sophie power   Flowerpower     11-18-11     125  
                 RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     126  
                     RE: Sophie power   Flowerpower     11-18-11     127  
                         RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     128  
                 RE: Sophie power   glennyfromtheblock     11-18-11     129  
                     RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     130  
                         RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     132  
                             RE: Sophie power   PepeLePew13     11-19-11     141  
                                 RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     142  
   Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     133  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-19-11     134  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     137  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   rose1974     11-19-11     135  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     136  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     138  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-19-11     139  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Flowerpower     11-19-11     140  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     143  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-19-11     146  
                 In fairness   kiki_k     11-19-11     147  
                     RE: In fairness   Belle Book     11-20-11     149  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     144  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-20-11     150  
                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-20-11     151  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-20-11     152  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-20-11     153  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-20-11     154  
                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-21-11     155  
                                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     156  
                                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-21-11     160  
                                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     163  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     164  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     165  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     166  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-21-11     168  
                                     Missing the point   kiki_k     11-21-11     167  
                                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     178  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     145  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     148  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   parathor     11-21-11     157  
                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     158  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   parathor     11-21-11     159  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     161  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-21-11     162  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-21-11     169  
   Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     170  
     RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   kiki_k     11-22-11     171  
         RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     172  
             RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   kiki_k     11-23-11     177  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     179  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   Georjanna     11-23-11     181  
     RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   michel     11-22-11     173  
         RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     174  
             RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   michel     11-22-11     175  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-23-11     176  
   Thoughts on the CBS website clips   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     180  
     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     182  
         Quick rules of thumb for recap toni...   rose1974     11-23-11     183  
             RE: Quick rules of thumb for recap ...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     184  
             RE: Quick rules of thumb for recap ...   PepeLePew13     11-23-11     186  
         RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     185  
             RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     187  
                 RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   SurvivorFan101     11-23-11     188  
                     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     189  
                     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     190  
                         RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     191  
                             RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   stu45     11-24-11     192  
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