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140. "RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts"
Always great to sit back and bite into your editing thoughts, michel. You never disappoint, that's for sure!

I agree with alot of what you see but this time I do see somethings a bit differently than you do.

no one is able to go out and get fish because they have to spend a lot of their energy watching out for who is doing what, who is going where and who they are talking to. They have to watch out for the conniving nature that is the classic end game of Survivor.” A dying fish was then seen on the sand, another sign against Ozzy. “Redemption adds a whole new twist to it. If you have the skills like I do…you can have everything set to play the end game with a passion and a ferocity that you can’t get when you have to deal with a tribe.”

I definitely do not see the fish on the beach as "another sign against Ozzy". I saw this fish as underlining Ozzy's skills as the ultimate survivor thriving on RI, catching his bounty of fish, in contrast to the Upolu's who after this scene were heard failing to catch fish...Rick wasn’t having any success catching fish.
Dawn said she wanted to eat. Cochran replied he’d be happy just eating coconuts.

The fresh fish pulled right out of the ocean and onto the beach was proof that Ozzy is indeed eating well, just as his shot high atop the palm tree was proof that he is indeed getting ample coconuts. These shots underline him as the ultimate Survivor....whether he should win the game or not, imo.

Regarding Cochran and Albert, Albert fails with his plot to possibly make a move to boot Edna rather than the girls. We know this because in the end he voted with Coach to boot Dawn. Cochran also fails, with all of the talk of possibly making a big move to advance above 7th place, but then doesn't. “I came to play Survivor and Survivor is about big moves. I didn’t make the big jump I did just to be voted out in 7th place. I want to get further in this game and, if that means flipping back then it is something that I will consider. Did he even consider it, or is he too much of a coward, in the end we saw that he, like Albert, voted with Coach to boot his good ally Dawn.

I give them both credit for failure.

We had just heard Cochran telling Dawn that he wasn’t giving her lip-service while Albert, in effect, did just that. Well, I saw Cochran in the same vein. He did just give her lip service as well.

With this statement, Cochran is getting a taste of how the Savaii may have felt...
“Albert just confirmed my suspicions that I am going to be voted out at 7th. I am not exactly shocked but I felt that was a complete betrayal of our trust because I am the one that saved that entire tribe and, if they think that Edna is a more valuable player for them or is somebody that made more sacrifices for them, they are sorely mistaken.” How ironic for him... And, would any people argue now that Albert is bullying Cochran because he told him where he stood? Of course not!

And from Coach...Coach: “Albert, right now, is playing for Albert and that is a dangerous game to play out here. I see him talking to Whitney and talking to Dawn. He is either trying to come up with a last second plan or he is trying to curry jury votes and neither one is acceptable in my opinion.” Coach directly threatened Sophie, Rick and Albert, telling them: “If anyone goes against the five, it is instant death.” His confessional continued: “There are three types of motivational style: There is coddling, there is reaffirming and then there is fear. At the moment, I feel like an old mob boss. If anyone goes against the family, they are dead.” He is making out right threats here. Just as Savaii felt when Cochran went against their family. Coach could have been talking from a Savaii perspective and talking about Cochran at the merge, or he could be talking about Cochran now. Because Cochran is the one that I see who is playing the "dangerous game", talking to everyone, trying to come up with a last second plan , trying to curry favor from anyone, and then Coach goes on to bully, just as he has chastised Savaii for "bullying" Cochran. I find this to be a fair assessment of what is going on, but also very hypocritical by Coach as well.

The thing with Coach that is different than with Albert or John, is that he is the one that is controlling everything and everyone at Te Tuna. This bodes extremely well for him. So far there has been doubt cast from others that are trying to change the game to suit themselves...Albert, Cochran specifically. But, in the end, Coach gets to maintain the control over the game. But, there is one thing that Coach can't control, and that is who comes back from RI. This is where Ozzy still has quite a viable chance left in the game.

If Coach rules with an iron fist throughout the rest of the game, and wants to keep his word to foster votes, then he should get Cochran out next, then Edna. If it doesn't happen this way, and Edna were to go next, I would bet that Cochran could indeed be winner. This next episode will either make him, or, break him.


Then, if Coach continues to have his way, he'll favor the 3 best "warriors" for the final 3. And, we know that this is where Coach wants to end up, because he considers himself as "Zeus" and as the ultimate warrior. So, if Coach is destined to the final three, who could be the other two? At this point, because he has no edit whatsoever, I think it will not be Rick.

We heard Coach say if Dawn were to come back she could win. I think Dawn will never get past Ozzy, with the edit Ozzy is receiving at RI. So, if Ozzy is there, he could certainly qualify as a warrior. He is the "uncontrollable" factor in this game, and he will either create doubt as to the winner, or he will win. He still is a very viable option for F3.

At this point, I see the final 5 as Coach, Ozzy, Albert, Sophie, Brandon....fwiw. Like Boston Rob, Coach is handling the game magnificently, and turning into the mob boss was reminiscent of last season. I'd say that bodes very well for Coach.


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 The Players, The Game, The Editing ...   dabo     11-04-11       
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   samboohoo     11-04-11     1  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-04-11     2  
   RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   glennyfromtheblock     11-05-11     3  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     4  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     6  
         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     7  
             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     9  
                 RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     10  
                 RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-05-11     11  
                     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Corvis     11-05-11     12  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-05-11     14  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   Belle Book     11-05-11     17  
                     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-05-11     23  
                         RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   kiki_k     11-06-11     24  
                             RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   dabo     11-06-11     30  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   PepeLePew13     11-05-11     8  
     RE: The Players, The Game, The Edit...   michel     11-06-11     35  
   I Don't Believe in Redemption!   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     5  
     RE: I Don't Believe in Redemption!   Corvis     11-05-11     13  
   Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-05-11     15  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-05-11     16  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-05-11     19  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-05-11     21  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   glennyfromtheblock     11-05-11     20  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-05-11     18  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Outfrontgirl     11-05-11     22  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     25  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     26  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-06-11     29  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     31  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   PepeLePew13     11-06-11     33  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   kiki_k     11-06-11     32  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     37  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-06-11     39  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Brownroach     11-07-11     49  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Flowerpower     11-07-11     43  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-07-11     51  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Flowerpower     11-07-11     52  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   blueeyed     11-06-11     27  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-06-11     28  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-06-11     34  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   blueeyed     11-06-11     36  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Slider     11-06-11     41  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   michel     11-06-11     42  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   parathor     11-07-11     44  
     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Dangerous     11-06-11     38  
         RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   dabo     11-06-11     40  
             RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   stu45     11-07-11     45  
                 RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Belle Book     11-07-11     46  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   dabo     11-07-11     47  
                     RE: Episode 8 - Editing thoughts:   Corvis     11-07-11     48  
     Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     50  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Flowerpower     11-07-11     53  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     56  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   blueeyed     11-07-11     54  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-07-11     55  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   dabo     11-08-11     57  
         RE: Cochran = Anakin?   parathor     11-08-11     58  
             RE: Cochran = Anakin?   stu45     11-08-11     59  
                 RE: Cochran = Anakin?   PepeLePew13     11-08-11     60  
                     Nerd love   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     61  
         RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     62  
             RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   michel     11-08-11     63  
                 RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Outfrontgirl     11-08-11     64  
                     RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Belle Book     11-09-11     65  
                     RE: Revisiting Dawn's Edit   Delurker_MN     11-10-11     66  
   Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-12-11     67  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Delurker_MN     11-12-11     68  
         RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     74  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Belle Book     11-12-11     69  
         RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Slider     11-12-11     70  
             RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   rose1974     11-13-11     71  
                 RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     73  
             RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   michel     11-13-11     72  
                 RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   Belle Book     11-13-11     75  
     RE: Episode 9 - Editing Thoughts:   parathor     11-14-11     76  
   Jim (potential juror) assesses Coch...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     77  
     RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     78  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   stu45     11-15-11     79  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-15-11     80  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   michel     11-15-11     81  
             Just FYI   dabo     11-16-11     82  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-16-11     83  
             some John edit stuff   OllieKat     11-16-11     84  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   dabo     11-16-11     85  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   michel     11-16-11     88  
                     RE: some John edit stuff   dabo     11-16-11     90  
                         RE: some John edit stuff   michel     11-16-11     91  
                 RE: some John edit stuff   stu45     11-17-11     97  
         RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   VerucaSalt     11-16-11     86  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Booted     11-16-11     87  
             RE: Jim (potential juror) assesses ...   Outfrontgirl     11-16-11     89  
   Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     92  
     RE: Ozzy   baddove     11-17-11     93  
         RE: Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     94  
             I will add this though   kiki_k     11-17-11     96  
                 RE: I will add this though   parathor     11-17-11     111  
                     RE: I will add this though   kiki_k     11-17-11     113  
         RE: Ozzy   Lasann     11-17-11     95  
     RE: Ozzy   Scarlett O Hara     11-17-11     98  
         RE: Ozzy   Lasann     11-18-11     131  
     RE: Ozzy   Flowerpower     11-17-11     99  
         RE: Ozzy   PepeLePew13     11-17-11     100  
             RE: Ozzy   Belle Book     11-17-11     110  
     RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     101  
         RE: Ozzy   Flowerpower     11-17-11     102  
             RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     104  
                 RE: Ozzy   CTgirl     11-17-11     107  
             RE: Ozzy   michel     11-17-11     105  
             LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-17-11     108  
                 RE: LMFAO!   michel     11-17-11     114  
                     RE: LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-17-11     115  
                         RE: LMFAO!   michel     11-17-11     116  
                         RE: LMFAO!   dabo     11-18-11     117  
                             RE: LMFAO!   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     118  
                         RE: LMFAO!   Delurker_MN     11-18-11     119  
                             RE: LMFAO!   kiki_k     11-18-11     122  
     RE: Ozzy   CTgirl     11-17-11     103  
     RE: Ozzy   Belle Book     11-17-11     106  
         RE: Ozzy   kiki_k     11-17-11     109  
         One more thing   kiki_k     11-17-11     112  
         RE: Ozzy   Delurker_MN     11-18-11     120  
             Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     121  
                 RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-18-11     123  
                 RE: Sophie power   kiki_k     11-18-11     124  
                 RE: Sophie power   Flowerpower     11-18-11     125  
                 RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     126  
                     RE: Sophie power   Flowerpower     11-18-11     127  
                         RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     128  
                 RE: Sophie power   glennyfromtheblock     11-18-11     129  
                     RE: Sophie power   Belle Book     11-18-11     130  
                         RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     132  
                             RE: Sophie power   PepeLePew13     11-19-11     141  
                                 RE: Sophie power   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     142  
   Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     133  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-19-11     134  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     137  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   rose1974     11-19-11     135  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     136  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     138  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-19-11     139  
     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Flowerpower     11-19-11     140  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-19-11     143  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-19-11     146  
                 In fairness   kiki_k     11-19-11     147  
                     RE: In fairness   Belle Book     11-20-11     149  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     144  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-20-11     150  
                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-20-11     151  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-20-11     152  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-20-11     153  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-20-11     154  
                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-21-11     155  
                                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     156  
                                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   PepeLePew13     11-21-11     160  
                                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     163  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     164  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     165  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   dabo     11-21-11     166  
                                             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-21-11     168  
                                     Missing the point   kiki_k     11-21-11     167  
                                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     178  
         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-19-11     145  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-19-11     148  
             RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   parathor     11-21-11     157  
                 RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     158  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   parathor     11-21-11     159  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   michel     11-21-11     161  
                     RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   kiki_k     11-21-11     162  
                         RE: Episode 10 - Editing Thoughts   Belle Book     11-21-11     169  
   Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     170  
     RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   kiki_k     11-22-11     171  
         RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     172  
             RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   kiki_k     11-23-11     177  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     179  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   Georjanna     11-23-11     181  
     RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   michel     11-22-11     173  
         RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-22-11     174  
             RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   michel     11-22-11     175  
                 RE: Revisit Women's Edit Thing   dabo     11-23-11     176  
   Thoughts on the CBS website clips   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     180  
     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     182  
         Quick rules of thumb for recap toni...   rose1974     11-23-11     183  
             RE: Quick rules of thumb for recap ...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     184  
             RE: Quick rules of thumb for recap ...   PepeLePew13     11-23-11     186  
         RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     185  
             RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     187  
                 RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   SurvivorFan101     11-23-11     188  
                     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     189  
                     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   Outfrontgirl     11-23-11     190  
                         RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-23-11     191  
                             RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   stu45     11-24-11     192  
                                 RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   michel     11-24-11     193  
                                     RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   stu45     11-25-11     194  
                                         RE: Thoughts on the CBS website cli...   Belle Book     11-25-11     195  
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