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"Obamacare meets the Supreme Court"
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03-24-12, 12:52 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou..." |
My guess? With this court, the reasonable expectations are (IMO) that, Point 1: Standing will be affirmed because it's been voted on and legally passed by the legislature and signed into law by the President, so it's a challengeable act even though it's not in effect. It's actually the optimum time for a supreme court review, regardless of which way the ruling goes. A moratorium for judicial review should be built into the majority of large ticket items passed by the legislative branch. Point 2: The mandated purchase provisions of Obama-care will be declared unconstitutional. There are several constitutionally protected freedoms on which this decision could be based. Point 3: Will be affirmed, no one can reasonably expect the constitutionality of such a qualifier to not be affirmed. Point 4: will be moot because of the ruling on #2. I just don't see the Court making a ruling on federal coercion if the bill that would be responsible for the coercion is ruled unconstitutional. Not that they couldn't or wouldn't or haven't done similar things in the past, but I don't see them doing it here. And of course, timing being what it is, this will certainly be a hot election year point of debate. I don't see this has helping Obama's chances, however, because either way, this will emphasize that his idea of health care in American is to remove citizen's free will from the equation with a mandate, and that's an anathama to a lot of people, liberal and conservatives alike.
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Obamacare meets the Supreme Court |
AyaK |
03-24-12 |
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RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Estee |
03-24-12 |
1 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
03-25-12 |
6 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-24-12 |
2 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
foonermints |
03-24-12 |
3 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-24-12 |
4 |
A legal question. |
Max Headroom |
03-24-12 |
5 |
RE: A legal question. |
AyaK |
03-25-12 |
7 |
Day 1 |
AyaK |
03-26-12 |
8 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-27-12 |
9 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
03-28-12 |
10 |
Transcripts |
AyaK |
03-28-12 |
11 |
RE: Transcripts |
Estee |
03-28-12 |
12 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
03-29-12 |
13 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
03-29-12 |
14 |
RE: Transcripts |
kingfish |
03-29-12 |
15 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
04-04-12 |
19 |
RE: Transcripts |
kingfish |
04-04-12 |
21 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
26 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
03-29-12 |
16 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
04-04-12 |
20 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
23 |
RE: Transcripts |
newsomewayne |
04-04-12 |
24 |
Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
AyaK |
04-03-12 |
17 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
bondt007 |
04-04-12 |
18 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
samboohoo |
04-04-12 |
22 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
28 |
The Explanation |
dabo |
04-04-12 |
25 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
27 |
RE: The Explanation |
KeithFan |
04-04-12 |
29 |
RE: The Explanation |
dabo |
04-04-12 |
30 |
RE: The Explanation |
newsomewayne |
04-05-12 |
33 |
RE: The Explanation |
dabo |
04-05-12 |
35 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
34 |
RE: The Explanation |
ginger |
04-05-12 |
38 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
41 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
04-05-12 |
31 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
04-05-12 |
32 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
bondt007 |
04-05-12 |
36 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-05-12 |
37 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
ginger |
04-05-12 |
39 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-05-12 |
40 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
46 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-11-12 |
59 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
42 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
ginger |
04-06-12 |
43 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
45 |
ABA President speaks |
AyaK |
04-09-12 |
47 |
AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
44 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
ginger |
04-09-12 |
48 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-09-12 |
49 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-09-12 |
50 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
ginger |
04-10-12 |
56 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-10-12 |
57 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-13-12 |
61 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
Starshine |
04-10-12 |
51 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-10-12 |
52 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
Starshine |
04-10-12 |
53 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
newsomewayne |
04-10-12 |
54 |
Anyway |
dabo |
04-10-12 |
55 |
RE: Anyway |
AyaK |
04-10-12 |
58 |
RE: Anyway |
dabo |
04-11-12 |
60 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-25-12 |
62 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-25-12 |
63 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
06-25-12 |
64 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-25-12 |
65 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
06-26-12 |
66 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Starshine |
06-26-12 |
67 |
Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
68 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
kingfish |
06-28-12 |
69 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
70 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
71 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
72 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
73 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
74 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
75 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
77 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
79 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
80 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
83 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
84 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
85 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
86 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
87 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
89 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
PepeLePew13 |
06-28-12 |
90 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
bondt007 |
06-28-12 |
91 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
92 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
113 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
AyaK |
06-30-12 |
132 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
93 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
PepeLePew13 |
06-28-12 |
95 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
96 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
97 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
99 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
101 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
140 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
76 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
78 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-28-12 |
82 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-28-12 |
81 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
angelworth29 |
06-28-12 |
88 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
94 |
Because that's exactly how i... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
98 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
100 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
KeithFan |
06-29-12 |
102 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
108 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
110 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
111 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
112 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
120 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
123 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Snidget |
06-29-12 |
105 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
107 |
Can we get someone to use this poll... |
Snidget |
06-29-12 |
114 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
06-29-12 |
103 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
104 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-01-12 |
134 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-01-12 |
136 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-02-12 |
137 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-02-12 |
138 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-06-12 |
152 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
106 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
109 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
117 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
122 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
126 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
115 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
119 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
125 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
127 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
121 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
124 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
128 |
Roberts' intent |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
143 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
06-29-12 |
116 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
118 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-29-12 |
129 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
06-29-12 |
130 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-02-12 |
139 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
144 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
07-02-12 |
145 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Max Headroom |
06-29-12 |
131 |
It's Romney's fault. |
Estee |
07-01-12 |
133 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
KeithFan |
07-01-12 |
135 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
141 |
Mr. Etch A Sketch opens his mouth a... |
HobbsofMI |
07-02-12 |
142 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
cahaya |
07-02-12 |
146 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
AyaK |
07-03-12 |
147 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
HobbsofMI |
07-03-12 |
148 |
Don't tell me -- |
Estee |
07-03-12 |
149 |
RE: Don't tell me -- |
AyaK |
07-03-12 |
150 |
RE: Don't tell me -- |
cahaya |
07-03-12 |
151 |
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