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"Obamacare meets the Supreme Court"
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04-06-12, 08:09 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou..." |
I don't want to blow past this discussion; I'm just not sure that I can spend the time to do justice to it.What I do know if we are turning into the haves and the have nots. The US use to be a place where if you were poor you still had good schools so you could be more, you had caring doctors who took care of everyone and they handled the bills, what test were needed, how long he/she sat and talked, etc. It was a place where you could come up with something new and make it big. You lived and played by the rules and you had a good life that you wanted. If you wanted to be a worker you still could be middle class. If you wanted more, hard work and a brain would pay off. I disagree, but not for the reason you might think. First, I'd contend that, except for a small period in U.S. history, this has ALWAYS been a nation of the haves and have-nots, with people motivated primarily by greed. That's why the "robber barons" came along. That's why we had the terrible working conditions of the pre-WWI era that turned a number of otherwise regular Americans into Communists. The factor that changed things for Hobbs' idyllic period was the back-to-back blasts of the Great Depression and WWII. The Great Depression eliminated a lot of the gap between rich and poor by wiping out a number of fortunes. And WWII eliminated the normal gap between rich and poor in the army because of universal conscription. As a result, we had a new American dream: one of shared sacrifice, because (frankly) America (at least in its own mind) almost lost WWII and only survived because everyone pulled together. By the era of Vietnam, universal conscription was gone (see "Bush, George W." or "Cheney, Richard"), and soon all conscription would be gone -- and that sense of shared sacrifice disappeared along with it.
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Obamacare meets the Supreme Court |
AyaK |
03-24-12 |
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RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Estee |
03-24-12 |
1 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
03-25-12 |
6 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-24-12 |
2 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
foonermints |
03-24-12 |
3 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-24-12 |
4 |
A legal question. |
Max Headroom |
03-24-12 |
5 |
RE: A legal question. |
AyaK |
03-25-12 |
7 |
Day 1 |
AyaK |
03-26-12 |
8 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
03-27-12 |
9 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
03-28-12 |
10 |
Transcripts |
AyaK |
03-28-12 |
11 |
RE: Transcripts |
Estee |
03-28-12 |
12 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
03-29-12 |
13 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
03-29-12 |
14 |
RE: Transcripts |
kingfish |
03-29-12 |
15 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
04-04-12 |
19 |
RE: Transcripts |
kingfish |
04-04-12 |
21 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
26 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
03-29-12 |
16 |
RE: Transcripts |
ginger |
04-04-12 |
20 |
RE: Transcripts |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
23 |
RE: Transcripts |
newsomewayne |
04-04-12 |
24 |
Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
AyaK |
04-03-12 |
17 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
bondt007 |
04-04-12 |
18 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
samboohoo |
04-04-12 |
22 |
RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
28 |
The Explanation |
dabo |
04-04-12 |
25 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-04-12 |
27 |
RE: The Explanation |
KeithFan |
04-04-12 |
29 |
RE: The Explanation |
dabo |
04-04-12 |
30 |
RE: The Explanation |
newsomewayne |
04-05-12 |
33 |
RE: The Explanation |
dabo |
04-05-12 |
35 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
34 |
RE: The Explanation |
ginger |
04-05-12 |
38 |
RE: The Explanation |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
41 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
04-05-12 |
31 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
04-05-12 |
32 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
bondt007 |
04-05-12 |
36 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-05-12 |
37 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
ginger |
04-05-12 |
39 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-05-12 |
40 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
46 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
04-11-12 |
59 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-05-12 |
42 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
ginger |
04-06-12 |
43 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
45 |
ABA President speaks |
AyaK |
04-09-12 |
47 |
AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-06-12 |
44 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
ginger |
04-09-12 |
48 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-09-12 |
49 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-09-12 |
50 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
ginger |
04-10-12 |
56 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
AyaK |
04-10-12 |
57 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-13-12 |
61 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
Starshine |
04-10-12 |
51 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
kingfish |
04-10-12 |
52 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
Starshine |
04-10-12 |
53 |
RE: AyaK's blunder |
newsomewayne |
04-10-12 |
54 |
Anyway |
dabo |
04-10-12 |
55 |
RE: Anyway |
AyaK |
04-10-12 |
58 |
RE: Anyway |
dabo |
04-11-12 |
60 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-25-12 |
62 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-25-12 |
63 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
06-25-12 |
64 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-25-12 |
65 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
06-26-12 |
66 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Starshine |
06-26-12 |
67 |
Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
68 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
kingfish |
06-28-12 |
69 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
70 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
71 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
72 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
73 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
74 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
75 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
77 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
79 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
80 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
83 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
84 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
85 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
86 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
87 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
89 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
PepeLePew13 |
06-28-12 |
90 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
bondt007 |
06-28-12 |
91 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Tummy |
06-28-12 |
92 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
113 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
AyaK |
06-30-12 |
132 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
93 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
PepeLePew13 |
06-28-12 |
95 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
96 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
97 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
99 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
101 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
140 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
frankz |
06-28-12 |
76 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
Estee |
06-28-12 |
78 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-28-12 |
82 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
HobbsofMI |
06-28-12 |
81 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
angelworth29 |
06-28-12 |
88 |
RE: Upheld, 5-4. |
cahaya |
06-28-12 |
94 |
Because that's exactly how i... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
98 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
100 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
KeithFan |
06-29-12 |
102 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
108 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
110 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
111 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
112 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
120 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
123 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Snidget |
06-29-12 |
105 |
RE: Because that's exactly h... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
107 |
Can we get someone to use this poll... |
Snidget |
06-29-12 |
114 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
06-29-12 |
103 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Estee |
06-29-12 |
104 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-01-12 |
134 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-01-12 |
136 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-02-12 |
137 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-02-12 |
138 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
KeithFan |
07-06-12 |
152 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
106 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
109 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
117 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
122 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
06-29-12 |
126 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
115 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
119 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
125 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
127 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
HobbsofMI |
06-29-12 |
121 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
mrc |
06-29-12 |
124 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
kingfish |
06-29-12 |
128 |
Roberts' intent |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
143 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
06-29-12 |
116 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
frankz |
06-29-12 |
118 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
cahaya |
06-29-12 |
129 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
06-29-12 |
130 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
dabo |
07-02-12 |
139 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
144 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
PepeLePew13 |
07-02-12 |
145 |
RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou... |
Max Headroom |
06-29-12 |
131 |
It's Romney's fault. |
Estee |
07-01-12 |
133 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
KeithFan |
07-01-12 |
135 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
AyaK |
07-02-12 |
141 |
Mr. Etch A Sketch opens his mouth a... |
HobbsofMI |
07-02-12 |
142 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
cahaya |
07-02-12 |
146 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
AyaK |
07-03-12 |
147 |
RE: It's Romney's fault. |
HobbsofMI |
07-03-12 |
148 |
Don't tell me -- |
Estee |
07-03-12 |
149 |
RE: Don't tell me -- |
AyaK |
07-03-12 |
150 |
RE: Don't tell me -- |
cahaya |
07-03-12 |
151 |
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