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PRESIDENT OBAMA: Outstanding.

All right, I think that we’re going to take a question from each press delegation. So I’ll start with Julianna.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. After last week’s arguments at the Supreme Court, many experts believe that there could be a majority, a five-member majority, to strike down the individual mandate. And if that were to happen, if it were to be ruled unconstitutional, how would you still guarantee health care to the uninsured and those Americans who've become insured as a result of the law?

And then a President for President Calderón and Prime Minister Harper. Over the weekend, Governor Mitt Romney said that the U.S. used to promote free enterprise around the world, and he said, “Our President doesn’t have the same feelings about American exceptionalism that we do, and I think over the last three or four years, some people around the world have begun to question that.” My question to the both of you is whether you think that American influence has declined over the last three to four years.

And, President Obama, if you’d like to respond to that, too.


PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, on the second part of your question, it’s still primary season for the Republican Party. They're going to make a decision about who their candidate will be.

It’s worth noting that I first arrived on the national stage with a speech at the Democratic Convention that was entirely about American exceptionalism, and that my entire career has been a testimony to American exceptionalism. But I will cut folks some slack for now because they're still trying to get their nomination.


With respect to health care, I’m actually -- continue to be confident that the Supreme Court will uphold the law. And the reason is because, in accordance with precedent out there, it’s constitutional. That's not just my opinion, by the way; that's the opinion of legal experts across the ideological spectrum, including two very conservative appellate court justices that said this wasn’t even a close case.

I think it’s important -- because I watched some of the commentary last week -- to remind people that this is not an abstract argument. People’s lives are affected by the lack of availability of health care, the inaffordability of health care, their inability to get health care because of preexisting conditions.

The law that's already in place has already given 2.5 million young people health care that wouldn’t otherwise have it. There are tens of thousands of adults with preexisting conditions who have health care right now because of this law. Parents don't have to worry about their children not being able to get health care because they can't be prevented from getting health care as a consequence of a preexisting condition. That's part of this law.

Millions of seniors are paying less for prescription drugs because of this law. Americans all across the country have greater rights and protections with respect to their insurance companies and are getting preventive care because of this law.

So that’s just the part that's already been implemented. That doesn’t even speak to the 30 million people who stand to gain coverage once it’s fully implemented in 2014.

And I think it’s important, and I think the American people understand, and the I think the justices should understand, that in the absence of an individual mandate, you cannot have a mechanism to ensure that people with preexisting conditions can actually get health care. So there’s not only a economic element to this, and a legal element to this, but there’s a human element to this. And I hope that’s not forgotten in this political debate.

Ultimately, I’m confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress. And I'd just remind conservative commentators that for years what we’ve heard is, the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint -- that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law. Well, this is a good example. And I’m pretty confident that this Court will recognize that and not take that step.

Q You say it's not an abstract conversation. Do you have contingency plans?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I'm sorry. As I said, we are confident that this will be over -- that this will be upheld. I’m confident that this will be upheld because it should be upheld. And, again, that’s not just my opinion; that’s the opinion of a whole lot of constitutional law professors and academics and judges and lawyers who have examined this law, even if they're not particularly sympathetic to this particular piece of legislation or my presidency.

It makes more sense in light of the full remarks, portions of the law are already in effect, having positive impact in various regards, and it actually would be disruptive for the court to strike down active legislation. From something I read ages ago, when Roberts was first announced for Chief Justice, he would be wary of overturning the acting portions of the law.

Interesting.

Yes, though, President Obama did choose his words poorly in the portion extracted for Obama bashing purposes and media funtimes.

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 Obamacare meets the Supreme Court   AyaK     03-24-12       
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Estee     03-24-12     1  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     03-25-12     6  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-24-12     2  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   foonermints     03-24-12     3  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-24-12     4  
   A legal question.   Max Headroom     03-24-12     5  
     RE: A legal question.   AyaK     03-25-12     7  
   Day 1   AyaK     03-26-12     8  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-27-12     9  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     03-28-12     10  
   Transcripts   AyaK     03-28-12     11  
     RE: Transcripts   Estee     03-28-12     12  
         RE: Transcripts   ginger     03-29-12     13  
             RE: Transcripts   ginger     03-29-12     14  
                 RE: Transcripts   kingfish     03-29-12     15  
                     RE: Transcripts   ginger     04-04-12     19  
                         RE: Transcripts   kingfish     04-04-12     21  
                             RE: Transcripts   AyaK     04-04-12     26  
             RE: Transcripts   AyaK     03-29-12     16  
                 RE: Transcripts   ginger     04-04-12     20  
                     RE: Transcripts   AyaK     04-04-12     23  
                         RE: Transcripts   newsomewayne     04-04-12     24  
   Obama: open mouth, insert foot   AyaK     04-03-12     17  
     RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   bondt007     04-04-12     18  
         RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   samboohoo     04-04-12     22  
             RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   AyaK     04-04-12     28  
     The Explanation   dabo     04-04-12     25  
         RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-04-12     27  
             RE: The Explanation   KeithFan     04-04-12     29  
             RE: The Explanation   dabo     04-04-12     30  
                 RE: The Explanation   newsomewayne     04-05-12     33  
                     RE: The Explanation   dabo     04-05-12     35  
                 RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-05-12     34  
                 RE: The Explanation   ginger     04-05-12     38  
                     RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-05-12     41  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     04-05-12     31  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     04-05-12     32  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   bondt007     04-05-12     36  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-05-12     37  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   ginger     04-05-12     39  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-05-12     40  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-06-12     46  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-11-12     59  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-05-12     42  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   ginger     04-06-12     43  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-06-12     45  
                     ABA President speaks   AyaK     04-09-12     47  
                 AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-06-12     44  
                     RE: AyaK's blunder   ginger     04-09-12     48  
                         RE: AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-09-12     49  
                             RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-09-12     50  
                                 RE: AyaK's blunder   ginger     04-10-12     56  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-10-12     57  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-13-12     61  
                         RE: AyaK's blunder   Starshine     04-10-12     51  
                             RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-10-12     52  
                                 RE: AyaK's blunder   Starshine     04-10-12     53  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   newsomewayne     04-10-12     54  
   Anyway   dabo     04-10-12     55  
     RE: Anyway   AyaK     04-10-12     58  
         RE: Anyway   dabo     04-11-12     60  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-25-12     62  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-25-12     63  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     06-25-12     64  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-25-12     65  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     06-26-12     66  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Starshine     06-26-12     67  
   Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     68  
     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   kingfish     06-28-12     69  
         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     70  
             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     71  
                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     72  
                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     73  
                         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     74  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     75  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     77  
                                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     79  
                                         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     80  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     83  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     84  
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                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Tummy     06-28-12     89  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   PepeLePew13     06-28-12     90  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   bondt007     06-28-12     91  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Tummy     06-28-12     92  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   dabo     06-29-12     113  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   AyaK     06-30-12     132  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     93  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   PepeLePew13     06-28-12     95  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     96  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     97  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-29-12     99  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     101  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   AyaK     07-02-12     140  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     76  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     78  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-28-12     82  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-28-12     81  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   angelworth29     06-28-12     88  
                                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     94  
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     RE: Because that's exactly h...   kingfish     06-29-12     100  
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     RE: Because that's exactly h...   Snidget     06-29-12     105  
         RE: Because that's exactly h...   Estee     06-29-12     107  
             Can we get someone to use this poll...   Snidget     06-29-12     114  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     06-29-12     103  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Estee     06-29-12     104  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-01-12     134  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-01-12     136  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-02-12     137  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-02-12     138  
                         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-06-12     152  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     106  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     109  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     06-29-12     117  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     122  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     06-29-12     126  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     115  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   frankz     06-29-12     119  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     125  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     127  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     121  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     124  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     128  
                     Roberts' intent   AyaK     07-02-12     143  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     06-29-12     116  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   frankz     06-29-12     118  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-29-12     129  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     06-29-12     130  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-02-12     139  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     07-02-12     144  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     07-02-12     145  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Max Headroom     06-29-12     131  
   It's Romney's fault.   Estee     07-01-12     133  
     RE: It's Romney's fault.   KeithFan     07-01-12     135  
         RE: It's Romney's fault.   AyaK     07-02-12     141  
             Mr. Etch A Sketch opens his mouth a...   HobbsofMI     07-02-12     142  
             RE: It's Romney's fault.   cahaya     07-02-12     146  
     RE: It's Romney's fault.   AyaK     07-03-12     147  
         RE: It's Romney's fault.   HobbsofMI     07-03-12     148  
         Don't tell me --   Estee     07-03-12     149  
             RE: Don't tell me --   AyaK     07-03-12     150  
                 RE: Don't tell me --   cahaya     07-03-12     151  

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