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115. "RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou..."
Before you look to do harm to Chief Justice Roberts or his family, it’s important that you think carefully about the meaning – the true nature — of his ruling on Obama-care. The Left will shout that they won, that Obama-care was upheld and all the rest. Let them.

It will be a short-lived celebration.

Here’s what really occurred — payback. Yes, payback for Obama’s numerous, ill-advised and childish insults directed toward SCOTUS.

Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That’s how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything. Ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.

Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax. This is also critical. Recall back during the initial Obama-care battles, the Democrats called it a penalty, Republicans called it a tax. Democrats consistently soft sold it as a penalty. It went to vote as a penalty. Obama declared endlessly, that it was not a tax, it was a penalty. But when the Democrats argued in front of the Supreme Court, they said ‘hey, a penalty or a tax, either way’. So, Roberts gave them a tax. It is now the official law of the land — beyond word-play and silly shenanigans. Obama-care is funded by tax dollars. Democrats now must defend a tax increase to justify the Obama-care law.

Finally, he struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — ‘comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.’ Roberts ruled that is a no-no. If a state takes the money, fine, the Feds can tell the state how to run a program, but if the state refuses money, the federal government can’t penalize the state by yanking other funding. Therefore, a state can decline to participate in Obama-care without penalty. This is obviously a serious problem. Are we going to have 10, 12, 25 states not participating in “national” health-care? Suddenly, it’s not national, is it?

Ultimately, Roberts supported states rights by limiting the federal government’s coercive abilities. He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.

Although he didn’t guarantee Romney a win, he certainly did more than his part and should be applauded.

And he did this without creating a civil war or having bricks thrown threw his windshield. Oh, and he’ll be home in time for dinner.

Brilliant.

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9398-why-chief-justice-roberts-made-the-right-long-term-decision-with-obamacare/

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 Obamacare meets the Supreme Court   AyaK     03-24-12       
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Estee     03-24-12     1  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     03-25-12     6  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-24-12     2  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   foonermints     03-24-12     3  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-24-12     4  
   A legal question.   Max Headroom     03-24-12     5  
     RE: A legal question.   AyaK     03-25-12     7  
   Day 1   AyaK     03-26-12     8  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     03-27-12     9  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     03-28-12     10  
   Transcripts   AyaK     03-28-12     11  
     RE: Transcripts   Estee     03-28-12     12  
         RE: Transcripts   ginger     03-29-12     13  
             RE: Transcripts   ginger     03-29-12     14  
                 RE: Transcripts   kingfish     03-29-12     15  
                     RE: Transcripts   ginger     04-04-12     19  
                         RE: Transcripts   kingfish     04-04-12     21  
                             RE: Transcripts   AyaK     04-04-12     26  
             RE: Transcripts   AyaK     03-29-12     16  
                 RE: Transcripts   ginger     04-04-12     20  
                     RE: Transcripts   AyaK     04-04-12     23  
                         RE: Transcripts   newsomewayne     04-04-12     24  
   Obama: open mouth, insert foot   AyaK     04-03-12     17  
     RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   bondt007     04-04-12     18  
         RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   samboohoo     04-04-12     22  
             RE: Obama: open mouth, insert foot   AyaK     04-04-12     28  
     The Explanation   dabo     04-04-12     25  
         RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-04-12     27  
             RE: The Explanation   KeithFan     04-04-12     29  
             RE: The Explanation   dabo     04-04-12     30  
                 RE: The Explanation   newsomewayne     04-05-12     33  
                     RE: The Explanation   dabo     04-05-12     35  
                 RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-05-12     34  
                 RE: The Explanation   ginger     04-05-12     38  
                     RE: The Explanation   AyaK     04-05-12     41  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     04-05-12     31  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     04-05-12     32  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   bondt007     04-05-12     36  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-05-12     37  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   ginger     04-05-12     39  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-05-12     40  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-06-12     46  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     04-11-12     59  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-05-12     42  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   ginger     04-06-12     43  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     04-06-12     45  
                     ABA President speaks   AyaK     04-09-12     47  
                 AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-06-12     44  
                     RE: AyaK's blunder   ginger     04-09-12     48  
                         RE: AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-09-12     49  
                             RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-09-12     50  
                                 RE: AyaK's blunder   ginger     04-10-12     56  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   AyaK     04-10-12     57  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-13-12     61  
                         RE: AyaK's blunder   Starshine     04-10-12     51  
                             RE: AyaK's blunder   kingfish     04-10-12     52  
                                 RE: AyaK's blunder   Starshine     04-10-12     53  
                                     RE: AyaK's blunder   newsomewayne     04-10-12     54  
   Anyway   dabo     04-10-12     55  
     RE: Anyway   AyaK     04-10-12     58  
         RE: Anyway   dabo     04-11-12     60  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-25-12     62  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-25-12     63  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     06-25-12     64  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-25-12     65  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     06-26-12     66  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Starshine     06-26-12     67  
   Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     68  
     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   kingfish     06-28-12     69  
         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     70  
             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     71  
                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     72  
                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     73  
                         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     74  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     75  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     77  
                                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     79  
                                         RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     80  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     83  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     84  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Tummy     06-28-12     85  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     86  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     87  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Tummy     06-28-12     89  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   PepeLePew13     06-28-12     90  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   bondt007     06-28-12     91  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Tummy     06-28-12     92  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   dabo     06-29-12     113  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   AyaK     06-30-12     132  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     93  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   PepeLePew13     06-28-12     95  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     96  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     97  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-29-12     99  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     101  
                                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   AyaK     07-02-12     140  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   frankz     06-28-12     76  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   Estee     06-28-12     78  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-28-12     82  
                             RE: Upheld, 5-4.   HobbsofMI     06-28-12     81  
                                 RE: Upheld, 5-4.   angelworth29     06-28-12     88  
                                     RE: Upheld, 5-4.   cahaya     06-28-12     94  
   Because that's exactly how i...   Estee     06-29-12     98  
     RE: Because that's exactly h...   kingfish     06-29-12     100  
         RE: Because that's exactly h...   KeithFan     06-29-12     102  
             RE: Because that's exactly h...   kingfish     06-29-12     108  
                 RE: Because that's exactly h...   Estee     06-29-12     110  
                     RE: Because that's exactly h...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     111  
                     RE: Because that's exactly h...   kingfish     06-29-12     112  
                         RE: Because that's exactly h...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     120  
                             RE: Because that's exactly h...   kingfish     06-29-12     123  
     RE: Because that's exactly h...   Snidget     06-29-12     105  
         RE: Because that's exactly h...   Estee     06-29-12     107  
             Can we get someone to use this poll...   Snidget     06-29-12     114  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     06-29-12     103  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Estee     06-29-12     104  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-01-12     134  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-01-12     136  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-02-12     137  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-02-12     138  
                         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   KeithFan     07-06-12     152  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     106  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     109  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     06-29-12     117  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     122  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     06-29-12     126  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     115  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   frankz     06-29-12     119  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     125  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     127  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   HobbsofMI     06-29-12     121  
                 RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   mrc     06-29-12     124  
                     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   kingfish     06-29-12     128  
                     Roberts' intent   AyaK     07-02-12     143  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     06-29-12     116  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   frankz     06-29-12     118  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   cahaya     06-29-12     129  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     06-29-12     130  
     RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   dabo     07-02-12     139  
         RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   AyaK     07-02-12     144  
             RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   PepeLePew13     07-02-12     145  
   RE: Obamacare meets the Supreme Cou...   Max Headroom     06-29-12     131  
   It's Romney's fault.   Estee     07-01-12     133  
     RE: It's Romney's fault.   KeithFan     07-01-12     135  
         RE: It's Romney's fault.   AyaK     07-02-12     141  
             Mr. Etch A Sketch opens his mouth a...   HobbsofMI     07-02-12     142  
             RE: It's Romney's fault.   cahaya     07-02-12     146  
     RE: It's Romney's fault.   AyaK     07-03-12     147  
         RE: It's Romney's fault.   HobbsofMI     07-03-12     148  
         Don't tell me --   Estee     07-03-12     149  
             RE: Don't tell me --   AyaK     07-03-12     150  
                 RE: Don't tell me --   cahaya     07-03-12     151  

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