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"M-Clone."
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09-22-05, 06:52 AM (EST)
 
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"M-Clone." |
Which is what I'm going to be calling the series for the rest of the three or four weeks before it moves to Bravo, too. Cam this series catch on? The early, well-earned demised of its prospective ECST is a strong hint. No one came into this one with any real excitement, and everyone seems to be going out yawning a lot.A few of the 'subtle touches'. 1. The introduction. Could they have skidded past the conviction and jail time with any greater speed? 'By the way, I had to walk out of a courthouse once. Nothing else happened that was significant in any way.' 2. Batman vs. Superman. Sorry, but some of y'all know how much I love animation, and this reminded me of the two classic rules for the early 90s TV series. 'Virtually all Batman stories take place at night. Most Superman stories take place during the day.' Guess who Martha wants to be. We were flooded with sun the entire episode, and most indoor scenes seemed to have their lighting cranked up six or seven places. They want to make it look like Martha Stewart-Omnimedia is a happy, fun, comforting person to work for. Yes, they really do. Next week, we get flowers. The week after that should be kittens. And yes, this makes Donald into Batman. So now we know: it's hood hair. 3. Corporate vs. creative. You mean it wouldn't have been simpler to say 'Eight people who work in this mindless structure on this side of the room, eight people who don't over there...' 4. Is it just me, or does the name 'Howie' come with a built-in connection to one's inner six-year old? 5. Of course they all loved the loft. Because it wasn't a suite. And because every single item, every placement, every color, every touch is an Official Martha Product, and if they'd disliked any of it, they would have been thrown out on the spot. 6. Shut up, Jim. 7. Go home, Jeff. Ye gawds. Apparently this entire crew is so inherently boring that every episode is going to be devoted to the Fall And Demise Of Whoever. Background players? Who needs those? 8. They tried to clone George, but they need to tweak the resemblance a little more... 9. 'You don't fit in.' This is the worst possible sin for Martha. Martha has spent her entire life trying to get people to comform to what she sees as an ideal image of America, which is to be exactly like Martha in every way. Not being like Martha is high treason, and it'll be the core reason for every dismissal. And by the way, this is where Donald and Martha part company. Donald doesn't care if you didn't do it the way he would have done it, as long as it worked. Donald realizes his methods aren't the only ones and he's not too old to learn a new trick. Martha will have the new trick taken out and shot. 10. 'Ask Martha'. Words can describe the stupidity, but let's just pretend you saw '(censored)' a lot here, okay? It'll save time. 11. Don't delude yourself. That letter read over the exit isn't a way to be polite and show respect for the contestants. It's Martha's last-ditch attempt to keep them from defending themselves on their way out. 12. And after all the softening touches, the brighter lighting, the cheerier music -- it's the same old door-slam theme at the end. Of course it is. All those efforts at fake originality just wore the poor composer out. So what did you see that was a direct genetic copy from the donor parent? And do you think we might get six weeks before Bravo comes knocking?
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jackandjill 204 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-05, 09:17 AM (EST)
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I expected it to be Trump-like; I wasn't disappointed. I did appreciate the first boot. Had the mousey gal gotten fired, er, "you don't fit in", I'd likely not watch any further. But because the PM got canned, I'm semi-hooked.
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Reeflex7 187 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-05, 10:17 AM (EST)
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Same show, only she's trying to be the anti-Donald. Calling the contestants in the morning herself, the letter at the end, all the smiling and jokes, you mentioned the sets and lighting...she's tripping all over herself trying to be likeable. Frankly I enjoy watching Trump so much more. It's more fun watching an blowhard.Other random thoughts - Jim is an a$$, but his strategy to get rid of Jeff was actually a very good idea. I noticed we still get the same stupid boardroom (sorry...CONFERENCE room) dubbing of Martha's voice in this one. I hated "You don't fit in". Something else that felt forced. The George clone is a pretty sharp guy. The daughter seemed useless upon first viewing. Primarius has got to be the stupidest name ever. Jury is still out on this one. Neither Martha nor the contestants seem to have much pizzazz. Jim, god help us, might be the most interesting thing about this show.
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09-22-05, 11:33 AM (EST)
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I was not surprised by the setup of the first show as I expected it to be similar to Donald’s. My first impression of the Matchstick group: I liked their team name but I did not think they worked well together as a team. I found the first task to be interesting and was really LMAO when Matchstick came up with their story. Even if a parent were to buy the book (highly unlikely) their children would have no interest in hearing it let along the comprehension level to understand its content. I am having a hard time understanding why the other members of the group allowed Jeff to override their common sense. Project Manager or not his story sucked! I think that Dawn needs a reality check in the fact that she does not have the luxury of working in a quiet place. I liked Jim’s graphic design on the book but he reminded me of someone who should be on BB not The Apprentice. I think his mouth may land him in the conference room in the future. The only other member of that group that stuck out to me was Bethenny do not buy the story that Charles did not know she was a contestant. I think that they threw her in the mix for what they thought may be a twist (lame one at that). My first impression of the Primarius group: I did not like their team name and I think they work well together as a team. I thought that Dawna did a good job as the Project Manager, I liked their story and I think Howie did a great job telling it. They were very smart to do a test run on the children's reaction to their story. My first impressions of Martha, Alexis and Charles: Martha is as boring as ever! Alexis seems too happy and Charles needs to lose the cigar. 
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lilbuns 36 desperate attention whore postings
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09-29-05, 05:46 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: M-Clone." |
I love the show...love Trumps too...but love Martha's more. Maybe I'm more fascinated with Martha. I think there's enough difference in her show to make it a hit. The key is the day and time it's on...being against a top rated show is sure death for a new show. I don't know what they were thinking.
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09-22-05, 01:53 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: M-Clone." |
>"Same show, only she's trying to>be the anti-Donald. Calling the contestants in the morning herself, the letter at the end, all the smiling and jokes, you mentioned the sets and lighting...she's tripping all over herself trying to be likeable."As Elaine would say: "Fake, fake, fake, fake, fake." Due to the fact that I cannot stand Martha & I watched Lost last night, I did not see the premier & doubt I will bother at all, especially after reading the boards. Didn't even bother to record it. 
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ARnutz 13792 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-05, 12:16 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: M-Clone." |
# The show sucks, but only ever-so-slightly more than The Donald's Apprentice, so I'll keep watching.LOL!!! That's funny! I wonder why we watch these shows that suck???
# You suppose maybe Random House had an extra room somewhere they'd have been happy to let Dawn use if she'd asked?
That was ridiculous! If I were her, I would've gone out to the hallway, out to find another room or even to the damn ladies room!!! She was a little whiney about that whole thing. Like, wait, you are in a room with 7 other people and they aren't supposed to make noise because you have to have quiet??? Come on!
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09-26-05, 02:57 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: M-Clone." |
New Happy Happy Martha smile smile smile smile smile smile
*gag*Just a few wonderments before I pee in the boardroom: Primarius Clonius Maximus! - Nice concept about Jack and the Beanstalk growing toward Hell. Does Jack avoid the Lava People? More importantly, does he get to meet Lord Kinbote?
Next book: "Dawnius Starvius of the Banana" Matchstick (snapius idioticus) - Harmoniously laboring in the Dr. Suess Stupid room under Big Napoleon. Sweet idea by putting Hansel and Gretl in an urban setting - Hey Kids! - Don't like the stupid name your parents gave you? Change it! Run away from home! No worries, trust strangers to take care of you. I can see the Amber Alerts now after the book is published. Is there a MarthaWitch in this book? Jeff: "This Floats My Boat!" ..right out of town, Herr überturkey. Woo Hoo!
When George clone is not playing with his Cohiba, where does it go? A personal game of "Hide the Salami?" 
Pees. *runs away before Martha gets out tommy gun*
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ladro 1168 desperate attention whore postings
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09-27-05, 00:07 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: M-Clone." |
I am not real good at detecting subtle touches. To me it looked like an exact copy of that other show. Almost to the point of being a parody. It's the Real Gilligan's Island in a business suit.
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lilbuns 36 desperate attention whore postings
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09-29-05, 05:50 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: M-Clone." |
I don't see how it can be all that different. It's the exact same idea....looking for an apprentice. I actually love it. I always loved Trump's show and now I get to see the same type show twice in one week.
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ladro 1168 desperate attention whore postings
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09-29-05, 08:53 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: M-Clone." |
Some ways it could have been different:1. Any city other than New York.
2. Doing something other than the 'two teams' script (individual contest, 3 teams, mix it up, etc...).
3. Doing something other than the eliminate one person every week.
4. Not have every final decision made by the Star/Boss (maybe the teams make a few decisions, maybe the Gargoyles make a few decisions, maybe some third party makes a decsion, maybe have a contest where there is a clear loser so no decsion has to be made, etc...)
5. Have some side prize that contestants could compete for, so there is some drama with regard to those contestants that everyone just know are not going to win.
6. Have a losers brackect among the first four fired contestants, the winner returns to the game.
7. And so on.......
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