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"The Benefactor"
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08-16-04, 04:18 AM (EST)
 
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"The Benefactor" |
I've seen a few ads for this show and it looks intriguing. It will debut Sept 13, on ABC preceding Monday Night Football (after, for us Left Coasters). I couldn't find a forum or a thread for it already on here so I thought I'd start one.A link to the show - albeit with scant info - is here: http://abc.go.com/primetime/schedule/2004-05/thebenefactor.html As it stands now, I should have time to watch. I'm not sure what processes are involved here to start a summary-writing sign-up, or if one has already been started, but I wouldn't mind doing one or more summaries for the show. So what does everyone think? Is Mark Cuban just a Trump wannabe or is this idea unique enough to be successful in its own right? -Jack Bauer P.S. If there is already a forum, could someone provide a link to it? Thanks.
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08-27-04, 10:08 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: The Benefactor" |
The Summary sign-up thread is here if you're interested.I've been fortunate enough to see both sides of Cuban, working in Dallas sports media. I've seen the happy-go-lucky, goofy-##### side of Cuban, just wanting to have fun. He's a funny guy who enjoys life. I've also seen the vindictive, pissed off side of Cuban, who will stop at nothing to get his way or to try to "get back" at those who have wronged him. Once, when our station reported on what some of his players had said about the war, he came on and blasted us for reporting it and making his team look bad. He then refused to come back on for several months, until he had something else to promote. My final opinion of Cuban? He's a genius, and a master manipulator. He's learned that money can buy you anything you want. He's also a big baby. If he doesn't get his way, he'll just take his ball and go home. 
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09-01-04, 09:50 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: DM?" |
what show?NO Funeral.... Oh...freido.... I never listen.... Stay Hard....
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09-12-04, 08:36 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Benefactor" |
Hey Draco. Just reading your post, the show sounds more intriguing because of your discription of Cuban than it did from the promos. I think I'll watch it afterall! Thanks
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08-31-04, 05:59 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: The Benefactor" |
I prefer Sir Richard Branson, now that's a real cool entrepreneur!
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09-13-04, 08:52 PM (EST)
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17. "UMMMM...I will take rules for $500 Alex..." |
LAST EDITED ON 09-13-04 AT 08:55 PM (EST)WTF? I have just spent 45 minutes watching and we have no idea what the game is going to be like... Who can kiss Mark Cuban's arse the best? I mean...come on...give us a clue as to what is going to happen. Don't pull a FOX and give us plot twist every 12 seconds! ETA: Cuban just said that they will have to play the game 24/7...how can they play when the game isn't defined?  
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09-13-04, 10:35 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: UMMMM...I will take rules for $500 Alex..." |
Actually thats the idea. The show is designed to reflect what I think it takes to be successful. In the real world, there arent any rules. Things arent packaged nicely so that we all know what we are supposed to do.
When we go out to reach our goals, there isnt a host saying... everyone do this and we will pick the winner.
I wanted 16 normal people , because i think success can come from anyone, anywhere. In future eps, there are specific tasks,but they are all open ended. The contestant have to figure it out on their own just how to respond. The tests are pretty simple in concept, but really, really hard to respond to when THe simplest questions are often the toughest to answer. Thanks for watching, and my email is mark@hd.net Im loving hearing and reading what everyone has to say about the show ! thanks again m >LAST EDITED ON 09-13-04
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>WTF? I have just spent 45
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>ETA: Cuban just said that they
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09-14-04, 10:11 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: I liked it!" |
Oh Pooh, Buggy is QUEEN of the suck-ups.  I have to hand it to him though - a jenga deathmatch is an innovative concept. Well, it's one step above the famous Love Cruise fruit squeeze, but, JENGA? Oh yeah, I was on the edge of my seat for that. What's next, a rousing round of Old Maid? Checkers? Oh wait, I've got it....rock, paper, scissors! My 7 year old is gonna love this show. 
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65. "RE: I liked it!" |
Yes! What Loree said, way better than I did.I like not knowing when the show is going to have the next scheduled challenge. When you are playing with your own money you can make the rules. I love the concept. This is why I'll give it another watch. It's different, it's unpredictible.
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09-14-04, 01:23 PM (EST)
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38. "Hey Mark...." |
.....I don't really care about the lack of rules. I've never been a stickler for rules on a stupid (yes, I did call your show stupid) reality game show.However, what I was disappointed in was the total lack of charisma and personality that you showed on camera. Being an NBA fan I've become a fan of yours over the year...you seem like an interesting person. But, watching the show you came off as a dull, personality lacking former nerd who has too much money and not enough ideas on what to do with it. This wasn't a TV show, it was some rich moron's home video project..and that is exactly where it should've stayed. BTW, have you figured out yet that defense wins championships? Or are you stil of the belief that the team with the most wing players who can score is the team that wins in the end? WORST. SHOW. EVER. 
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09-15-04, 01:17 PM (EST)
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The only difference is that I've never really liked Cuban. He's way too much like that Richard Pryor character in "Brewster's Millions".I can't believe I wasted an hour of TiVO space on this complete waste of time. "This wasn't a TV show, it was some rich moron's home video project..and that is exactly where it should've stayed." Exactly. This looked like a house party gone horribly wrong. What's next? Jayson Williams' "The Rifleman" series? The answer to the question "What's worse than an elimination competition based on lemonade sales?" is clearly "one involving Jenga".  Fester
What angers me most is I'll never get that hour back.
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09-14-04, 10:02 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: UMMMM...I will take rules for $500 Alex..." |
Okay, I have to butt in and say, I did like the show. I thought the players were interesting, and the lack of the kind of structure we've come to expect from RTV to be very captivating. So, says I, bring on the caos.
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10-08-04, 00:32 AM (EST)
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102. "RE: Pretty boy" |
I dont know what you guys are looking at. Maybe you are just jealous because he is more attractive than you. Did you not see the muscles??? Skinny?? I think that you guys need to open your eyes and stop shoving the twinkies in your mouth.
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09-14-04, 10:27 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Exactly" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-14-04 AT 10:31 AM (EST)There was an article in the Pgh Post Gazette over the weekend about Shawn (she, like Mark is originally from the Pittsburgh area--actually I live about 5 minutes from Mt. Lebanon/Scott where Mark hails from!!) and how she was edited to be bitchier than she actually is IRL and parents of her students were concerned!! 
Courtesy of the Amazing Slice & Dice Chop Shop 2004
Hey, anyone hear about this spoiler mentioned in the article?
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09-15-04, 00:57 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: UMMMM...I will take rules for $500 Alex..." |
I really liked the show. And I thought his first elimination mirrored his own experience nicely. He made a stupid comment and lost his chance. So did Rich.
IMHO, this show is more reality than any reality out there. You make it in this world by thinking fast on your feet, handling pressure, and making the right impression. Sorry, but that is reality.
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09-14-04, 09:42 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: The Benefactor" |
I watched it as well because I am doing the summary for the next episode. I didn't hate it too much.
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ssshaw 548 desperate attention whore postings
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09-14-04, 10:34 AM (EST)
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31. "RE: The Benefactor" |
Don't worry vols, I'll put out a good summary next week.
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09-14-04, 10:58 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: The Benefactor" |
I really enjoyed the first episode and probably watch the whole season. My only complaint I have is that William was not sent packing. He is BEYOND annoying!! I just hope the good guy finishes last. Cant wait till next week.!!
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09-15-04, 04:41 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: The Benefactor" |
>I watched it as well because
>I am doing the summary
>for the next episode.
>I didn't hate it too
>much. You don't hate it too much? That's a ringing endorsement.  Back when I worked for DSC Communications (now Alcatel), they had an advertising slogan "Do what you want" (with a picture of the Statue of Liberty on the poster) and we all (mostly software developers in my group) hated it. (I mean come on, how many tired poor immigrants could afford to buy a telecom switch?) I suggested "Our products don't suck that much" and "Would you like fries with that". Of course, I suggested these to my fellow developers, not management.
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09-14-04, 08:35 PM (EST)
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44. "liking it so far" |
the show definietly kept my interest, and like others, i loved the Jenga game (shades of MMH, eh Draco? don't know that anyone else here watched that, but oh well)the cast intrigues me, because there seem to be a mix of truly neat/inspirational peeps (like the football woman), and then some total lamers like Dominik (dood, your hair sucks. here's some advice: shave it all off and start over. and you're just as annoying as William, who really didn't annoy me until his behavior at Jenga). I really like Mario, the Watermelon Princess, the B!tch, and the Footballerita. Dislike Dominick, Spencer, and William. But the show's still young  would have liked to see the poker girl last longer, but she was clearly the worst in her interview
Hi Mark! wanna give me a million bucks? i promise to be really nice in my episode 3 summary
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09-15-04, 10:22 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: I Don't Like It" |
Gotta laugh with ya, king, even tho I didn't find Mark nearly as annoying as some of you (well, I did!)Yes, the dog is going for annoying (thank you!) Anyway, I'm going to watch (of course) and see where the initial intrigue takes us.
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09-15-04, 11:05 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: I Don't Like It" |
I found Mark Cuban to be annoying and aggrogant--he knows what it takes to be successful in life. Perhaps he knows how to become rich but that alone doesn't make you a success in life. What about family, realtionships, morals, ethics and your contribution to to the betterment of society? What an arrogant a$$.
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09-15-04, 01:36 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: I Don't Like It" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-15-04 AT 05:31 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 09-15-04 AT 02:10 PM (EST) >I found Mark Cuban to be
>annoying and aggrogant--he knows what
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>in life. Perhaps he
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>but that alone doesn't make
>you a success in life.
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>morals, ethics and your contribution
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>society? What an arrogant
>a$$. you dont have to like me.. Thats up to you. But the show is 100 pct about everything you just mention. But rather than jumping to conclusions, you will just have to watch. One of the challenges on monday is based on recognizing that time is more valuable than monday, and another is that the best judges of character are kids. can you deal with kids who dont care anything about what you have or what you can do.... and I know you didnt ask, but 100 pct of what I would get paid is going to www.fallenpatriotfund.org You dont know me at all, but I agree 100 pct with your perspective. I said it in the show. Success isnt about making the most money, its about living your dreams and being able to wake up and go to sleep with a big smile on your face. On another episode, the contestants are judged on their abilities to do random acts of kindness and make people smile... www.blogmaverick.com is where I talk about more of these One last thing.. None of the cuts are on the whim, or just because I like or dont like someone. In each test, I know EXACTLY what I am looking for. In the first eps, it was always one specific thing per test.
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09-15-04, 09:08 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: I Don't Like It" |
Thanks for the specifics, Mark. I think I'm gonna like it, in spite of what the skeptics and my dog say...forgive her, she thinks she's real. (Hey!) Anyway, you sound like an interesting guy to me, and that's MHO. Don't even try to please all of us who post here, because we are a diverse and multi-opinionated group, and there's one thing we always agree on. NEVER will we ALL agree on anything. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
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09-15-04, 03:21 PM (EST)
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55. "I caught the beginning of the BF..." |
which is unusual for me. Other than Survivor and some college sports, I don't watch TV. I just don't have enough time or interest.But I have always been intrigued by Cuban, a guy who will say what he feels at any time any place. I can respect that, even it it has me cringing on occasion. As I watched, I went from being mildly interested during the introductions to being a little annoyed during the 1st cut segment. I get that they knew they were supposed to be playing. But the Cuban reaction scenes seemed very amateurish. Granted, Cuban is no actor, and I don't need him to be a Jeff Probe-like talking head. But he seemed to bounce in and out of focus, both physically and emotionally. I stopped watching after the Ex-Marine florist was capped. After I thought about it for a while, I decided that the show felt a lot like one of The Assistant episodes I surfed past during a football game commercial a while back. If you haven't seen the Assistant, Andy ##### is all over the radar. One minute he's convincingly serious and the next he's comedian Andy. But I never know how to take him, and thus a good premise is wasted. I can't say from a third of the initial episode that the same is happening on the BF. But that is my impression. I'd like to be worng, b/c I am generally pro-Cuban. Though I'd rather watch paint dry than watch the NBA, I do pay attention to the Mavs. So I hope Cuban gets better reviews than my gut reaction. 
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09-20-04, 11:50 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: The Benefactor" |
FYI people..the person posing as Mark writting here...it's not Mark. I was on a similar message board back when the casting was being done....he (even the same name) came there and messed with us too..getting our hopes up that all the cast had not been picked, telling us to stay tuned...really played with us. Was a very cruel prank. The board owner confirmed it wasn't Mark at all...just someoneone with to much time on his hands. I did get a real letter from Mark at the beginning of casting..not much..a few sentences. Since then I have watched interviews on him...and watched the show. Not impressed with either. In two shows I have seen a man who disrespects his wife (talking to the men about how hot the women are/booting the gal who got naked in her tape, but remained clothed for the first episode. And booting a guy for saying the word "stupid"? Mark seems to be all about Mark and no one else, and I'm waitng for a temper tamtrum where he falls to the floor and whines "it's just not fair" if his steak isn't cooked the way he wants it. I feel sorry for those people to have to try and kiss his butt and hope they consider the source when he demeans them. The million bucks? I think it should go to his wife (she seems so sweet in the interviews)..along with a man who will make her a priority in his life. It's not the money that made him that way, it's his own self that made him that way. The show...I'll bet it gets the axe.
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09-20-04, 10:29 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: Episode 2: 9/20/04" |
>William should have not wasted his
>time of being on this
>show and he should have
>concentrated on building his own
>billionaire business.
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>Cuz he will have a million
>by this time next year!
>WTF ever dood!
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>Those kids cracked me up!
>William good to see you go. Not only that, he's going to be on that list of 400, in front of 400, a few spaces above Cuban. *rolls eyes* I think the only way William will become a billionaire is if he gets $20 million from 50 different Nigerians who all have bank accounts that they need transferred. Now, if only we can get rid of the misogynic #####.
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09-21-04, 07:17 AM (EST)
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78. "Shawn" |
I wonder what she thinks now that she has seen the episode and realized that the kids really didnt like her that much - they just liked her a little more than the other 2 because she pretended to like basketball. For a 2nd grade teacher she does not seem to be tooned into the kids at all. I was really impressed with the "cutey patootey" guy and the fun they had. That was the last team I thought would do well. I'm still rooting for Linda.
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09-21-04, 07:47 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: Shawn" |
Shawn definitely should have been gone. I can't believe they got rid of Mario, though. I thought he was going to win it.
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09-21-04, 11:37 AM (EST)
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82. "RE: Shawn" |
I was really bothered by Shawns comments about hating women so much.I can understand if you have reasons, but she does not give any.Anyone agree?? BTW.. I am so hooked on this show and I think MC is hot. too bad it will be a one time only show.
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09-21-04, 12:10 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Does anyone know...." |
Maybe I heard it wrong, but either way peeps are going fast. That's why I was curious how many total episodes there were going to be. I can't find the answer here or on ABC's website.
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09-21-04, 03:10 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: The Benefactor" |
After last night's show, I just had the feeling of absolute HATE for Shawn. I really didn't like her before but after she cut Kathy in the beginning and then hearing what she had to say about it in the confessional just made me want to hurl a chair at the TV. I do hope that she realizes she lucked out with those kids!The ousting of William and Mario was expected. Neither of them stepped up to the plate on anything. William talks a big talk but has no game. I still do not know several of the players (i.e. Christine) very well so I assume they will make it past the next cut so that we will actually get to know them before the end of the 7 week series.
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09-22-04, 07:00 AM (EST)
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92. "RE: The Shawn Show" |
O.M.GAW.This was PAINFUL for me to watch!! But a good pain. Hurt so good, Mr.Cuban. Lots of material for me to make fun of. He is such a goofus! I can't stand listening to him go on and on about how he is the best thing since peanut butter. ARGGGG!!! The thought of going to an arcade with all of those dimwits sends me running to hide. It was just too 'whimsical' for me. MC has a huge ego. He reminds me of Cowboy from BB without the money and with brains. But that same "Look at me!" attitude. I was so happy that Shawn got dissed by the kids. I would ahve loved to see her go- what a kick in the arse that would have been! And William- what a doofus! Shut the $%#% up already, dude! I thought Mario (is that his name?) was going to lose his cool with him in the van. Or did he have any cool to lose? The cute guy was great with the kids. Very natural. He is my favorite now. Although he does have an immature Donald Trump thing going on with his hair. I thought going to the Children's hospital was a great idea. It was selfless and the benefit was great. I mean, can you ever go to the Children's hospital too many times? That kind of irked me about MC also. Just because you do a lot for them on a regular basis doesn't mean it is a bad thing to go again! But oh no! The arcade and driving course are much more beneficial for everyone involved. Well, for MC anyhow and thats really all that matters. OK- Still having my morning coffee and maybe needing to switch to decaf- more slamming later
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Sweater_Puffs 269 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-04, 12:50 PM (EST)
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93. "RE: The Shawn Show" |
"Did he have any cool to lose?" - too funny....I thought he was cool AND good looking by association, well, according to him anyway. I agree that the Children's Hospital was a good idea. Cuban should have recognized that great minds think alike, instead, he got upset because he didn't get another trip to a theme park. I loved that they involved children, and t-a-s-t-e-f-u-l-l-y. They say if you can manage children you can manage anybody, even grown ups. Children can often see through a facade, but at the same time, their decisions will always be immature. Not a slam, just acknowledging their true nature - they're kids. I was extremely happy to see those two go, now, the teacher must go and bring the red head back.
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steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-04, 05:04 PM (EST)
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94. "AHHHHHhhhhhhh" |
Why do I watch this show, it's like peeling an itchy scab! It hurts but there's some weird satisfaction! Mark is such a whiney little child who looks like he should have a big big and pacifier at all times. But the reality tv nut in me just wants to see who wins the insane "game" (if you can call it that).
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-04, 05:15 PM (EST)
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96. "Linda" |
Is there any truth to the gossip that Linda (the pro football player) has been seen driving around her hometown in a brand new BMW? And that Mark Cuban has been spotted visiting her at her house. Hmmm, could this mean she turns out to be the winner?
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09-24-04, 00:41 AM (EST)
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97. "RE: Linda" |
>Is there any truth to the
>gossip that Linda (the pro
>football player) has been seen
>driving around her hometown in
>a brand new BMW?
>And that Mark Cuban has
>been spotted visiting her at
>her house. Hmmm, could this
>mean she turns out to
>be the winner? That she is riding around town in a new Beemer, apparently isn't just a rumor. That that means she won is however a rumor (or speculation). http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg?articleid=45065 Apparently, Mark visited several contestants homes as part of the series, so it would maybe just indicate she made it long enough for her family to get a visit from him. Or it might mean she won.
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09-28-04, 11:59 AM (EST)
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99. "Dominic" |
Mark certainly seems to like Dominic. I wonder if Dominic is the cool guy that Mark wanted to be when he was in school?
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