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"Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion"
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"Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
Keep it here until the show has aired on the West Coast (midnight Eastern time). Update, dis, b!tch, moan, rave...whatever floats your boat, but PLEASE don't go all Landru on us and post new threads in the General Discussion forum, until after midnight, 'kay? That just causes Bebo and the blues unnecessary stress.Miscellaneous Ramblings --**all names mentioned with love and reverence and total devotion, naturally.
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seahorse |
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anotherkim |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion |
chrystalline |
10-30-04 |
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They think Andy's gone |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion |
seahorse |
10-28-04 |
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Task |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Meeting with Donnie Deutsch |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Trump on his jet |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion |
seahorse |
10-28-04 |
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MaritimeGirl |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion |
seahorse |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Andy leading |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Andy leading |
CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Andy leading |
chrystalline |
10-31-04 |
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Days lat but don't forget she was a... |
DontGetMeStarted |
10-30-04 |
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Elizabeth |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Elizabeth |
MaritimeGirl |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Elizabeth |
ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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Apex is filming their ad |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Apex is filming their ad |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Trump |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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You got to love it |
CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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RE: You got to love it |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Kevin helping ELizabeth |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Kevin helping ELizabeth |
CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Maria and Chris |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Kevin helping ELizabeth |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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molchaser |
10-28-04 |
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Teams working on ideas |
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10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
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Apex |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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ifm |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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The Carolyn Factor |
CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Mosaic |
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10-28-04 |
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WOW |
CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Apex |
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10-28-04 |
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Trump is home to save the day... |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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DT listening to pitches |
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10-28-04 |
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Mosaic |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Surprise reward |
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10-28-04 |
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CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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CantStandToLook |
10-28-04 |
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Fishercat |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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Board room should be fun! |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Wes giving pointers to ELizabeth |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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RE: Wes giving pointers to ELizabet... |
Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Loree |
10-28-04 |
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Board room time! |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Elizabeth toast! |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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ifm |
10-28-04 |
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HistoryDetective |
10-28-04 |
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anotherkim |
10-28-04 |
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anotherkim |
10-28-04 |
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ifm |
10-28-04 |
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Jen |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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Stacie is back! |
PhoenixMons |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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Not quite |
AyaK |
10-28-04 |
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Guess who's back. Back again |
ifm |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
10-28-04 |
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ARnutz |
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10-28-04 |
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Pepito |
10-28-04 |
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Elizabeth |
AyaK |
10-28-04 |
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Nanook |
10-28-04 |
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cbjusmc |
10-28-04 |
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Pepito |
10-28-04 |
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lindan |
10-28-04 |
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Lisapooh |
10-28-04 |
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anotherkim |
10-28-04 |
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Lisapooh |
10-29-04 |
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Alag |
10-29-04 |
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10-29-04 |
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Alag |
10-29-04 |
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dtc |
10-30-04 |
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Alag |
10-29-04 |
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10-29-04 |
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10-30-04, 11:22 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
The firing of a woman on the Apprentice is no surprise, specially since they chose a whole crew of inept women this season. The big suspense ticket is, which Man will win. We know none of the women will. So which one will?
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3. "They think Andy's gone" |
They'll be shocked if it's anyone else.Whoa nelly! They are surprised. Maria said she was completely blown away - you never know what's going ot happen in the boardroom. Andy - said he felt like the kid who never gets picked in dodge ball...tomorrow they're goign to see a different side of me they haven't seen before "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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5. "Task" |
THe Donald - on his plane flying to Ecuador flying to Miss Universe pageant.Jennifer is exempt if they lose brak brak brak DOnnie Deutsch. Recruiting people going into NYPD? WTF? Advertising pitch. "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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10-28-04, 09:02 PM (EST)
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7. "Trump on his jet" |
Trump even has that awful gold tacky stuff on his jet. He loves to brag and remind us he is going to the Miss Universe pageant.
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10-28-04, 09:07 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
The guys are complaining they aren't shooting a tampon commercial.
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10-28-04, 09:03 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
I wish Andy would just shut Maria up.
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87. "Days lat but don't forget she was a home ec major" |
that's why she knows about the humming sex I guess ... ;)
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10-28-04, 09:07 PM (EST)
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14. "Elizabeth" |
says she has to prove herself because DT thought she was a crappy leader beforeElizabeth didn't want a miltiary theme...wanted more emotional she likes the "times are changing" aspect. Kevin says Elizabeth is talkin in circles... Raj doesn't understand why she's getting weird about not wanting to go the miltiary aspect Elizabeth said she had to go with the team - they all wanted to go that route. Elizabeth said something about filming before they are filming or something equally nonsensical. Raj getting on ELizabeth's nerves "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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10-28-04, 09:10 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Apex is filming their ad" |
It is going to rain so Andy is rushed.
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10-28-04, 09:13 PM (EST)
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19. "Trump" |
Trump at the Miss Universe show was sickening. I have no idea what kind of strange dance he was trying to do while sitting there. At least Bill gets to kiss the girls...
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10-28-04, 09:15 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: You got to love it" |
How long does it take Chris to tuck his shirt in? And how itchy was Ivana's nose?
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10-28-04, 09:18 PM (EST)
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26. "Maria and Chris" |
More sex... straddling a bike with their shirts off?
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10-28-04, 09:19 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Kevin helping ELizabeth" |
Mutiny? Are they going to take leadership away from Elisabeth?
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10-28-04, 09:23 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Kevin whupping ELizabeth" |
I just want Maria fired. So I hope that team loses.
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10-28-04, 10:34 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Kevin helping ELizabeth" |
The star of the show was on the losing team.I am very impressed by the way Kevin tried to help Elizabeth "fix" the campaign and even after she got pressured by the other team members to dump her and Kevin's idea. Kevin understandingly was PO'd but still tried to straighten out Elizabeth (and in private which I thought showed a lot of class). He was the only one that tried to provide a constructive dialog. I almost would have canned raj...not for the idea...but for his third grade behavior denagrading Elizabeth Just my $.02
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10-28-04, 09:17 PM (EST)
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25. "Teams working on ideas" |
Kevin likes their new idea.Elizabeth puts up her new idea to the team. Ivana said Elizabeth is just flip-flopping. Elizabeth said she was forced to go another direction..back to the drawing board again. Dude...you're PM - it's YOUR job to get this together. Mosaic is working with their music...sounds pretty cool. Maria still brakking about sex appeal. They're arguing over sex appeal. Kelly agrees with Maria...need to have more sex appeal. "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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10-28-04, 09:26 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
One team wants to get rid of Elisabeth and the other team wants to get rid of Andy. Both teams would probably be content to lose to boot their PM. Kelly wants to take over and do the presentation.
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10-28-04, 09:29 PM (EST)
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39. "Trump is home to save the day..." |
Raj looks so serious and worried in the presentation.
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10-28-04, 09:31 PM (EST)
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41. "DT listening to pitches" |
Deutch patches the call through to DT to hear their pitches.Apex is up. Their campaign looks weak (no really?). It's a mish mosh of stuff Mosaic. Andy sounds good pitching. Kelly sounds good pitching. "When was the last time" theme seems to be going over well with the ad peeps. When was the last time you fought terrorism? WHen was the last time you made your family proud? Nice music in the background. It looks about a thousand times better than the crap Apex put together. They said Apex would turn civilians off. "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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10-28-04, 09:39 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Mosaic" |
Right on. I couldn't agree more. --- <== A Missionhockey21 creation
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10-28-04, 09:51 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Board room should be fun!" |
Donald doesn't want to waste time. He fires Elizabeth without even letting her bring 2 people in.
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10-28-04, 09:42 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Wes giving pointers to ELizabeth" |
Wes told Elisabeth to curse alot?
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10-28-04, 09:47 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
Donald knows Raj pushed the military idea.
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LAST EDITED ON 10-28-04 AT 09:52 PM (EST)Yeah baby! Fire it up! I just wish Maria was in there. DT: Elizabeth...what went wrong? Elizabeth: we didn't have a good idea before it was time to start shooting. my definition is someone who stands by their convictions (channeling Bush, are we?) DT: I'd like to see the ad - show the ad Carolyn: that's pretty bad DT: based on that I feel like I live in a police state - wives will not want their husbands to join - unless they have a bad relationship with their husband DT: wasn't it Raj who wanted the military idea Jen: Raj did a good job CHris: this was the only direction we had and it's not Raj's fault for going 100% with the one idea we had Ivana - has to commend Raj for taking a position DT: is she weak or innefective or both? Ivana: both Jen: Elizabeth was weak, ineffective, and indecisive Kevin: talking about when they stayed up all night making plans for a new idea - he liked their idea , she liked their idea then the next morning she backed down - said the team wasn't behind it DT: you let your team change your mind for you? What the hell's missing with you ELizabeth? Elizabeth picks Raj & Chris WHoa! Board room not necessary. You're fired! I don't want to waste time. GO ahead! "Here is my secret. It's quite simple: One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is invisible to the eyes."
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10-28-04, 09:52 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
Of the females, who will make it to the final 4. I just don't see it.
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10-28-04, 09:54 PM (EST)
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62. "Guess who's back. Back again" |
Guess who's back. Back again
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67. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
It's not just Stacie coming back. Rob, Bradford, and Jen C. will be back too. I can't wait... the confrontations are going to be awesome! LOL
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71. "RE: Elizabeth" |
Don't you just love how IVANA called Elizabeth indecisive? LOL
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80. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
I don't think Maria and Kelly were entirely off base. I don't feel like they wanted to sell sex as they much as they wanted to sex up the ads. That wouldn't work in the concept that Andy had - it would have been totally out of place. But, if they had gone a different, edgier route early on - I don't think it would have been a horrible direction to go off in. They are trying to appeal to young men primarily. The easiest way to do that is with the sexier aspects of police work - guns, the cars, the power, etc. I don't think anyone wanted to see shirtless guys on motorcycles - but an urban-themed recruiting message would not have been a total disaster. As powerful as Andy's concept ended up being - it sounded stodgey and like it would appeal to people like - well, like you and me, kim. In other words, not their target market. I would have had the same concerns early on as they had - but, Andy put together a great cohesive package. And I agree - I don't think Elizabeth had a clue about what she wanted other than that it wasn't what she had. It's a shame - that tag line could have worked.
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81. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-29-04 AT 02:05 PM (EST)<<>I don't think Maria and Kelly >were entirely off base. I >don't feel like they wanted >to sell sex as they >much as they wanted to >sex up the ads. That >wouldn't work in the concept >that Andy had - it >would have been totally out >of place. But, if they >had gone a different, edgier >route early on - I >don't think it would have >been a horrible direction to >go off in. They are >trying to appeal to young >men primarily. The easiest way >to do that is with >the sexier aspects of police >work - guns, the cars, >the power, etc. I don't >think anyone wanted to see >shirtless guys on motorcycles - >but an urban-themed recruiting message >would not have been a >total disaster. >> Agreed, Lisa. I think Maria should not have said "We need more sex" since I thought she meant that they should make the ad a little cooler (for lack of better word). That doesn't mean "cops straddling their bikes" but using a more hip, edgier, sexier campaign to recruit the 18-30 year-olds. But any time Maria says ANYTHING, it basically sounds like "I need more sex." Also, I must admit, as a visitor to NYC, I have seen some REALLY hot cops, both male and female. I've stayed in the Chelsea and a precinct is right around the corner. My friend and I would just plant ourselves across the street and drool.
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89. "RE: Week 8, Oct. 28 Discussion" |
agreed,trump thought so (new york times square) but the police officer before the cut of jumpingin the water what did he say? when was the last time ...???? >The Mosaic ad was fantastic, ready >for the public the way >it was. Andy and Kelly >both presented wonderfully. How unusual >it was to see a >team complete a task so >well -- this is a >real feather in Andy's cap! > > >.... Ummm, just what did Jen >M & Ivana do at >all during this task? They >apparently did not put ANY >ideas on the table at >all, did not seem to >be active during the filming... >just what did they DO? >How did Elizabeth see fit >to (try) to take Raj >and Chris into the boardroom >when the women seemed to >have made even LESS of >a contribution?
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