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09-16-11, 10:42 PM (EST)
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"Hamster House Finale"
LAST EDITED ON 09-21-11 AT 03:41 AM (EST)


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Audience Only Zenbot 09-16-11 1
   RE: Audience Only Belle Book 09-17-11 8
   RE: Audience Only agman 09-17-11 11
       RE: Audience Only Zenbot 09-17-11 13
           RE: Audience Only agman 09-19-11 25
   RE: Audience Only agman 09-19-11 33
   RE: Audience Only agman 09-20-11 50
   RE: Audience Only agman 09-20-11 64
       swoon jbug 09-20-11 66
       RE: Audience Only Zenbot 09-20-11 67
           wow agman 09-20-11 73
               RE: wow agman 09-20-11 104
                   RE: wow Corvis 09-20-11 108
                       RE: wow agman 09-20-11 112
   OMG agman 09-20-11 120
   RE: Audience Only agman 09-20-11 134
       RE: Audience Only suzzee 09-20-11 150
           RE: Audience Only agman 09-20-11 178
 Hamster House Zenbot 09-16-11 2
   RE: Hamster House jbug 09-19-11 27
 Finale Week HoH Competition: Hamste... Zenbot 09-16-11 3
   ~sigh~ jbug 09-17-11 4
       RE: ~sigh~ michel 09-17-11 5
           RE: ~sigh~ Zenbot 09-17-11 7
       RE: ~sigh~ Corvis 09-17-11 6
           Corvis jbug 09-17-11 10
   I'll admit it... jbug 09-17-11 9
       RE: I'll admit it... Zenbot 09-17-11 12
   This jbug 09-18-11 15
       and this jbug 09-18-11 16
           and jbug 09-18-11 17
               and then jbug 09-18-11 18
                   I got jbug 09-18-11 20
           RE: and this Corvis 09-18-11 19
   HamsterLympics Results & Awards Zenbot 09-18-11 21
       RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards Corvis 09-18-11 22
       RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards michel 09-18-11 23
           RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards jbug 09-19-11 29
               Corvis jbug 09-19-11 30
       Congrats Michel jbug 09-19-11 24
 Hi Belle michel 09-18-11 14
 RE: Hamster House Finale jbug 09-19-11 26
   RE: Hamster House Finale jbug 09-19-11 28
       RE: Hamster House Finale Corvis 09-19-11 31
           RE: Hamster House Finale jbug 09-19-11 32
 F3 Eviction michel 09-19-11 34
   RE: F3 Eviction Corvis 09-19-11 35
       RE: F3 Eviction jbug 09-19-11 38
   RE: F3 Eviction jbug 09-19-11 37
 My Case to the Jury michel 09-19-11 36
   RE: My Case to the Jury Zenbot 09-19-11 40
   RE: My Case to the Jury DearAbby 09-20-11 168
       RE: My Case to the Jury zazzy 09-21-11 191
       RE: My Case to the Jury michel 09-21-11 227
 Live Jury Vote schedule & format Zenbot 09-19-11 39
   Pulls up chair... jbug 09-20-11 59
       Corvis? jbug 09-20-11 61
       RE: Pulls up chair... Zenbot 09-20-11 62
   Zenbot! jbug 09-20-11 78
 Jury Box Zenbot 09-19-11 41
   Dressed for jury Corvis 09-20-11 60
       RE: Dressed for jury krismiss2us 09-20-11 79
       RE: Dressed for jury suzzee 09-20-11 80
           RE: Dressed for jury Corvis 09-20-11 82
   KRISMISS IS HERE krismiss2us 09-20-11 69
       RE: KRISMISS IS HERE krismiss2us 09-20-11 71
   suzzee in the cage suzzee 09-20-11 70
       HEY ZENBOT krismiss2us 09-20-11 74
           RE: HEY ZENBOT Zenbot 09-20-11 87
   RE: Jury Box DearAbby 09-20-11 72
       RE: Jury Box Corvis 09-20-11 77
   RE: Jury Box zazzy 09-20-11 75
   RE: Jury Box Zenbot 09-20-11 81
       RE: Jury Box zazzy 09-20-11 85
   RE: Jury Box suzzee 09-20-11 86
       RE: Jury Box michel 09-20-11 89
       Suzzee jbug 09-20-11 91
       Thanks michel & JBug suzzee 09-20-11 96
   Question by combined jurists on beh... Zenbot 09-20-11 90
       RE: Question by combined jurists on... michel 09-20-11 97
       RE: Question by combined jurists on... jbug 09-20-11 98
   Question from DearAbby DearAbby 09-20-11 92
       RE: Question from DearAbby michel 09-20-11 102
       abby jbug 09-20-11 103
           RE: abby krismiss2us 09-20-11 106
               RE: abby jbug 09-20-11 128
 JBug Case to the Jury jbug 09-20-11 42
   Wayne jbug 09-20-11 43
       RE: Wayne michel 09-20-11 51
   D'Abby jbug 09-20-11 44
       RE: D'Abby michel 09-20-11 52
       RE: D'Abby DearAbby 09-21-11 211
           RE: D'Abby michel 09-21-11 228
   Suzzee jbug 09-20-11 45
       RE: Suzzee michel 09-20-11 53
   Kriss jbug 09-20-11 46
       RE: Kriss michel 09-20-11 54
           RE: Kriss zazzy 09-21-11 193
               RE: Kriss michel 09-21-11 229
                   RE: Kriss zazzy 09-21-11 233
                       RE: Kriss michel 09-21-11 236
   Zazzy jbug 09-20-11 47
       RE: Zazzy michel 09-20-11 55
   Corvis jbug 09-20-11 48
       RE: Corvis michel 09-20-11 56
   Michel jbug 09-20-11 49
       June michel 09-20-11 57
           RE: June jbug 09-20-11 58
 Okay, I'm here...... agman 09-20-11 63
   RE: Okay, I'm here...... Zenbot 09-20-11 65
       RE: Okay, I'm here...... michel 09-20-11 68
 Live Finale Show! Zenbot 09-20-11 76
   RE: Live Finale Show! zazzy 09-20-11 83
       ZEN CHECK YOUR PM krismiss2us 09-20-11 88
           RE: ZEN CHECK YOUR PM Zenbot 09-20-11 94
   RE: Live Finale Show! michel 09-20-11 84
   After answering... Zenbot 09-20-11 115
 RE: Hamster House Finale zazzy 09-20-11 93
 Jury, ask you questions here Zenbot 09-20-11 95
   By the combined jurists on behalf o... Zenbot 09-20-11 99
       Krismiss's question krismiss2us 09-20-11 101
           RE: Krismiss's question jbug 09-20-11 107
           RE: Krismiss's question michel 09-20-11 109
       RE: By the combined jurists on beha... michel 09-20-11 105
       copied & pasted from above-- Wayne jbug 09-20-11 113
   RE: Jury, ask you questions here DearAbby 09-20-11 100
       RE: Jury, ask you questions here michel 09-20-11 110
       RE: Jury, ask you questions here jbug 09-20-11 111
   After answering... Zenbot 09-20-11 117
       RE: After answering... jbug 09-20-11 133
           RE: After answering... Zenbot 09-20-11 136
 zazzy's question zazzy 09-20-11 114
   RE: zazzy's question michel 09-20-11 123
   zazzy jbug 09-20-11 125
 Corvis, Zazzy questions? michel 09-20-11 116
   RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions? Corvis 09-20-11 118
   RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions? jbug 09-20-11 119
       RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions? krismiss2us 09-20-11 121
           RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions? Zenbot 09-20-11 129
   RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions? Zenbot 09-20-11 122
   Corvis' question Corvis 09-20-11 124
       RE: Corvis' question michel 09-20-11 126
       Corvis jbug 09-20-11 127
           RE: Corvis Corvis 09-20-11 130
           RE: Corvis michel 09-20-11 131
               RE: Corvis jbug 09-20-11 135
 Final speeches by michel and jbug Zenbot 09-20-11 132
   I'm ready jbug 09-20-11 137
       RE: I'm ready jbug 09-20-11 138
   Final speech by michel michel 09-20-11 139
       RE: Final speech by michel michel 09-20-11 142
   zenbot jbug 09-20-11 141
       RE: zenbot Zenbot 09-20-11 145
           RE: zenbot jbug 09-20-11 153
 Jury Voting Zenbot 09-20-11 140
   RE: Jury Voting DearAbby 09-20-11 143
       RE: Jury Voting Corvis 09-20-11 144
   RE: Jury Voting suzzee 09-20-11 146
   RE: Jury Voting krismiss2us 09-20-11 147
   Results, by a vote of... Zenbot 09-20-11 148
       RE: Results, by a vote of... agman 09-20-11 152
       This? jbug 09-21-11 206
           RE: This? agman 09-21-11 212
   RE: Jury Voting zazzy 09-20-11 149
 The Winner of the Hamster House Zenbot 09-20-11 151
   RE: The Winner of the Hamster House zazzy 09-20-11 154
       RE: The Winner of the Hamster House Corvis 09-20-11 155
           RE: The Winner of the Hamster House michel 09-20-11 164
               RE: The Winner of the Hamster House jbug 09-21-11 207
       flowers? jbug 09-21-11 205
   Congratulations Jbug michel 09-20-11 156
       RE: Congratulations Jbug Corvis 09-20-11 160
           RE: Congratulations Jbug DearAbby 09-20-11 169
           Anyone seen Wayne? jbug 09-22-11 243
               RE: Anyone seen Wayne? agman 09-22-11 244
                   You can tell Mr Wayne jbug 09-22-11 245
       RE: Congratulations Jbug krismiss2us 09-20-11 165
           RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-20-11 190
       RE: Congratulations Jbug zazzy 09-20-11 175
           RE: Congratulations Jbug DearAbby 09-20-11 177
           RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-20-11 189
               RE: Congratulations Jbug zazzy 09-21-11 195
               RE: Congratulations Jbug zazzy 09-21-11 196
                   RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-21-11 198
                       RE: Congratulations Jbug zazzy 09-21-11 203
                           correction jbug 09-21-11 208
                               RE: correction zazzy 09-21-11 210
                           RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-21-11 226
                               RE: Congratulations Jbug zazzy 09-21-11 231
                                   RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-21-11 237
       RE: Congratulations Jbug Zenbot 09-20-11 179
           RE: Congratulations Jbug michel 09-21-11 192
               RE: Congratulations Jbug Zenbot 09-21-11 197
   WEEEEEEE!!! suzzee 09-20-11 157
   RE: The Winner of the Hamster House zazzy 09-20-11 159
   RE: The Winner of the Hamster House DearAbby 09-20-11 161
   RE: The Winner of the Hamster House zazzy 09-20-11 162
       RE: The Winner of the Hamster House Corvis 09-20-11 166
           RE: The Winner of the Hamster House Zenbot 09-20-11 174
               RE: The Winner of the Hamster House Corvis 09-20-11 176
   RE: The Winner of the Hamster House jbug 09-20-11 167
       RE: The Winner of the Hamster House Zenbot 09-20-11 172
       RE: The Winner of the Hamster House michel 09-20-11 185
           RE: The Winner of the Hamster House zazzy 09-21-11 194
               RE: The Winner of the Hamster House michel 09-21-11 199
           RE: The Winner of the Hamster House jbug 09-21-11 209
 PM from jbug Zenbot 09-20-11 158
   RE: PM from jbug jbug 09-20-11 171
 Thanks, everyone! Zenbot 09-20-11 163
   RE: Thanks, everyone! michel 09-20-11 170
       RE: Thanks, everyone! krismiss2us 09-20-11 173
       RE: Thanks, everyone! Zenbot 09-20-11 182
           RE: Thanks, everyone! michel 09-20-11 187
               RE: Thanks, everyone! Zenbot 09-20-11 188
   I'm grateful jbug 09-20-11 180
       RE: I'm grateful agman 09-20-11 183
           RE: I'm grateful Zenbot 09-20-11 184
               RE: I'm grateful agman 09-20-11 186
   RE: Thanks, everyone! suzzee 09-20-11 181
       RE: Thanks, everyone! krismiss2us 09-21-11 200
           what a mess agman 09-21-11 201
               RE: what a mess Zenbot 09-21-11 202
                   RE: what a mess agman 09-21-11 204
   Feedback suzzee 09-21-11 213
       RE: Feedback agman 09-21-11 215
       RE: Feedback cahaya 09-21-11 218
           quick note jbug 09-21-11 219
               RE: quick note agman 09-21-11 220
                   RE: quick note suzzee 09-21-11 234
   RE: Thanks, everyone! zazzy 09-21-11 216
   Hamster House Feedback DearAbby 09-21-11 217
   RE: Thanks, everyone! krismiss2us 09-21-11 221
   RE: Thanks, everyone! Corvis 09-21-11 222
       CORVIS'S COMMENTS krismiss2us 09-21-11 223
           RE: CORVIS'S COMMENTS cahaya 09-21-11 224
               RE: CORVIS'S COMMENTS jbug 09-21-11 225
                   RE: CORVIS'S COMMENTS michel 09-21-11 230
                       7999 jbug 09-21-11 232
   RE: Thanks, everyone! michel 09-21-11 239
       RE: Thanks, everyone! jbug 09-22-11 241
   Bravo to Zenbot! zazzy 09-22-11 248
 Acceptance Speech jbug 09-21-11 214
   I'll fess up suzzee 09-21-11 235
       RE: I'll fess up jbug 09-21-11 238
       RE: I'll fess up michel 09-21-11 240
           RE: I'll fess up suzzee 09-23-11 260
       RE: I'll fess up Corvis 09-22-11 242
           RE: I'll fess up michel 09-22-11 246
               RE: I'll fess up Corvis 09-22-11 247
                   RE: I'll fess up michel 09-22-11 249
                       RE: I'll fess up Corvis 09-22-11 250
                           RE: I'll fess up michel 09-22-11 251
                               LET ME JUST SAY krismiss2us 09-22-11 252
                                   RE: LET ME JUST SAY DearAbby 09-23-11 253
                                       I WILL JUST SAY michel 09-23-11 254
                                           RE: I WILL JUST SAY Corvis 09-23-11 256
                                               RE: I WILL JUST SAY michel 09-23-11 275
                                           RE: I WILL JUST SAY zazzy 09-23-11 258
                                               RE: I WILL JUST SAY agman 09-23-11 261
                                               RE: I WILL JUST SAY michel 09-23-11 276
                               RE: I'll fess up Corvis 09-23-11 255
                                   RE: I'll fess up agman 09-23-11 262
                                       RE: I'll fess up zazzy 09-23-11 263
                               RE: I'll fess up agman 09-23-11 259
                                   RE: I'll fess up michel 09-23-11 274
                           This too... jbug 09-23-11 257
                               CHILDREN krismiss2us 09-23-11 264
                                   ~talks back~ jbug 09-23-11 265
                                       RE: ~talks back~ agman 09-23-11 273
                                   RE: CHILDREN agman 09-23-11 277
 Season Over! cahaya 09-23-11 266
   267 jbug 09-23-11 267
       RE: 267 agman 09-23-11 268
           RE: 267 agman 09-23-11 269
               RE: 267 agman 09-23-11 270
                   okay jbug 09-23-11 271
                       RE: okay agman 09-23-11 272
 RE: Hamster House Finale agman 10-24-11 278
   RE: Hamster House Finale agman 11-09-11 279
       Hey jbug 11-09-11 280

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Zenbot 137 desperate attention whore postings
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09-16-11, 10:43 PM (EST)
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1. "Audience Only"
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09-17-11, 12:06 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Audience Only"
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Hmm, I think Michel needs to either win the HOH or hope that Jbug does. If Corvis wins, Michel is in trouble, since Michel turned on Corvis and Zazzy.

Edited to add: I just received word from Zazzy (currently in Sequesterville) that she isn't the only one Michel victimized. Apparently Dear Abby, Suzzee, and Krismissus have also been victims -- and all have been female. Jbug should definitely win the HOH competition if that's the case!

Edited to further add: Michel just informed me that Wayne (a guy) was also his victim. Anyway, Michel would probably make a good goat to take to the Final 2 -- he's betrayed everyone on the jury and at least one person off!

Check out my newest game: Big Brother: What If? and vote at the following link: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID7/1612.shtml

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09-17-11, 06:47 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Audience Only"
I think I am replying/commenting in the correct place.*crosses fingers* How many Jury members will there be?



I just want to be "In the know".

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09-17-11, 09:54 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Audience Only"
There will be six -- newsomewayne, DearAbby, suzzee, krismiss2us, zazzy and one more to be determined by Monday night (one of michel, jbug or Corvis).

All rise! Court is now in session!


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09-19-11, 09:24 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Audience Only"

Thanks Zen-baby!

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33. "RE: Audience Only"
After all that living together, back stabbing, and competing the question is now...Who will Michel take with him AND who hasn't stepped on the toes of too many jury members!.....I will need plenty of popcorn and beverages for this! *runs to kitchen to make sure all supplies are there!


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09-20-11, 03:31 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Audience Only"
*reads and rereads appeals to jury by finalists. Evaluates strenghts and weaknesses of appeals.......*


MAN this is gonna be good.......



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Just had to change into my formal attire....Now to find the seat Zenbot saved for me.



By the way, I was looking down at the jury box, and Corvis..NICE TUX It really flatters your fur.

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*thud*

D'Abby Special
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09-20-11, 09:57 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Audience Only"
*robot whistle!*

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Zenbot, your jury is looking quite serious at the moment. I even think I see a bead of sweat trickling down Michel's brow!



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104. "RE: wow"
I just love it when DAbby shows her tatas!



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09-20-11, 10:25 PM (EST)
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You're welcome.


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09-20-11, 10:27 PM (EST)
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112. "RE: wow"
LOL


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09-20-11, 10:32 PM (EST)
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120. "OMG"
Did Jbug just accuse Michel of making a few enemas??? What did he do, slip them in their drinks? I'll never be able to look at bug the same way again!
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134. "RE: Audience Only"
Gee, the're a lot of empty seats up here!.....I think I just saw the phantom and he was singing music of the night. Go figure.
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09-20-11, 11:12 PM (EST)
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150. "RE: Audience Only"
>sneaks into the audience...sits next to ag.....

Thanks for the sweet siggie. You know.....I've been sequestered....

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hehehehehehehe


Well, were just going to have to discuss that in further detail



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2. "Hamster House"
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09-19-11, 01:17 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Hamster House"
It's so quiet in here, I stumbled off to see what was going on elsewhere....
and yep, sure enough, I find hamsters hanging out in some place called BBRAT7 House.

And? low & behold Zazzy won the game over there!

Now tell me how she had time for them when she was so obviously busy over here!
i realize this is the active Hamster only portion of the thread. & since Zazzy is now in sequesterville, she can't reply.
Oh well, congrats on your game 'over there' Zazzy


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3. "Finale Week HoH Competition: HamsterLympics"
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Greetings, you final three hamsters! Congratulations on making it this far. You each deserve a medal for your accomplishments and we'll get to that very soon. But first we need to determine who the next and final Head of Household will be. So...

We now officially open the HamsterLympics competition! You will be running, spinning, swimming, leaping and jumping in all kinds of events.

But are you ready? It's no longer time to eat, drink and be merry. You've got to get back in shape for this competition! So you will get to decide how you want to do your HamsterLympic training before you compete.

Here are the HamsterLympic events and your training options.

An example of an entry you might send to the Zenbot is:

I want to train:

4 training levels for Agility
3 training levels for Leaping
2 training levels for Speed
1 training level for Swimming
No training for Stamina

Total: 10 training levels

I am an Event Master in High Jump.

... or something like this:

I want to train:

3 training levels for Stamina
3 training levels for Speed
2 training levels for Swimming
1 training level for Leaping
1 training level for Agility

Total: 10 training levels

I am an Event Master in Distance Running.

Have fun training, hamsters! Don't eat too much while you're at it!

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4. "~sigh~"
?
Here we go again.
Corvis? Michel? are you 2 training yet?


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5. "RE: ~sigh~"
I trained all night, lifting bottles of beer to my mouth. I'm up to...Sorry, lost count for some reason...



Thanks Dear Abby!


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7. "RE: ~sigh~"
Here's exactly why weight lifting is not one of the HamsterLympics events.


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6. "RE: ~sigh~"
Hi Ho, hi ho, it's off to training I go.


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10. "Corvis"
You've figured this out?


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9. "I'll admit it..."
as apparently Corvis & Michel are too manly to do so...
I'm lost ---again.

Is the "best time/distance" determined by a random draw of some kind?
Or am I supposed to figure out some strategy with those number up there that will beat the others?

(the Chenbot does ask if everyone understand the rules; so I figure you, Zenbot, imply that question to us.)

If you use the 2 examples you gave above, is there something random that causes one to beat the other?
If not, can you explain to us how one example above is better than the other?


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Are there little Bots at home who do a practice run on these challenges for you - sorta like production does for Survivor challenges?

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12. "RE: I'll admit it..."
LAST EDITED ON 09-17-11 AT 11:04 PM (EST)

This is one of those comps where there is no "right" answer (that I know of), although some training strategies may have a better chance of winning one or more events than other training strategies. It also partly depends on how the others also do their training strategies.

The standard time/distance will be random (like having a "good day" or "bad day" at that competition), but not by a very wide margin (for example, sprint running will be a fairly narrow range between 10.0 and 10.5 seconds). It's the training bonuses and the single event master that will largely determine how a hamster will do in an event (for example, 1 level of speed training will knock -0.4 seconds off that time, and being an event master will knock another -0.5 seconds off that time). So, if you drew 10.2 seconds (having about an average day) and subtract the -0.9 seconds for level 1 speed training along with event mastery, your final time would be 9.3 seconds, which is a pretty good time.

I'm sticking to simple facts here, posted for everyone's benefit, but I won't provide any suggestions or recommendations about training strategies, although I have several ideas I'd probably try out at if I were competing.

Good luck, everyone!


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15. "This"
is what happened to me while I was training.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPEdEunMNvM

Quit laughing at me!


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16. "and this"
is Corvis in training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYMXRzOiVxI&feature=fvwp&NR=1


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17. "and"
Michel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih5DO3nFjig&feature=related
He got some friends to train with him


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18. "and then"
we all got together for a little work out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx3bUiNcBeY&feature=related

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LAST EDITED ON 09-18-11 AT 08:51 PM (EST)

really tired so I caught a ride back to Hamster House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frQkeo5EpLM&feature=related

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19. "RE: and this"
What the heck is that I am eating?


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21. "HamsterLympics Results & Awards"

Greetings, one and all! The results of the HamsterLympics are in. And what an exciting round of games it turned out to be, all the way to the last event!

And here we go...

Sprint running: michel and Corvis turn out to be speed kings, training four weeks just to be quick. And, *crack* goes the start gun and suddenly it's over in close to 9 seconds.
1. 9.1 Corvis
2. 9.4 michel
3. 10.4 jbug

Distance running: michel and Corvis also put in a couple weeks of stamina training, while jbug spends four weeks to go the long haul. *Crack*, the start gun sounds again. It turns out to be anybody's race even in the final lap and...
1. 9:15 michel
2. 9:27 jbug
3. 9:32 Corvis

Swimming: Corvis comes in the swimming event master, so he apparently decided he could skip the training. Meanwhile, jbug invests four weeks into swimming training that could show who the real event master is. *Crack* goes the gun and into the water they go! It comes down to Corvis and jbug on the last lap and...
1. 1:32 jbug
2. 1:38 Corvis
3. 1:53 michel

It's one gold medal for each of the hamsters going into the next round of competitions!

High Jump: You can see michel and Corvis practicing their high leaps after four weeks of practice, and jbug too after two weeks of training. And here they go...
1. 4'11" michel
2. 4'9" Corvis
3. 4'7" jbug

Long Jump: Here's where speed and leaping count and the two speed kings are sure to rule...
1. 7'4" Corvis
2. 6'10" michel
3. 6'3" jbug

Wheel Gymnastics: Now it's jbug's turn to catch up in the medal count, with Corvis and michel both holding two golds. And jbug is the event master here. Will she succeed? And the judges' cards come up...
1. 7.6 jbug
2. 6.6 michel
3. 6.5 Corvis

Wow! All three competing hamsters have won two gold medals and it comes down to the last event, the triathlon!

It turns out michel is the event master for the triathlon, but jbug has four weeks of swimming training to help make up for it. And off they go, swimming, wheel cycling and running to the finish! And crossing the line...
1. 2:34:00 michel
2. 2:47:00 jbug
3. 3:00:00 Corvis

Congratulations, michel, you have won the HamsterLympics gold medal!

With both jbug and Corvis earning 2 gold, 2 silver and 3 bronze medals, jbug wins the HamsterLympics overall silver medal by virtue of her finish in the triathlon. Corvis earns the HamsterLympics overall bronze.

Now michel, as the last HoH, you must choose either of jbug or Corvis to join you in jury vote by tomorrow (Monday), 10:00, to be posted in this thread.

The jury will vote live on Tuesday night, starting at 10:00 sharp.

Have fun and get some rest, hamsters!

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22. "RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards"
Congrats on your win, michel.

It's been a fun game. I look forward to voting for the winner on the jury.


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23. "RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards"
Yay! All that drinking made me numb to the pain of training. I want to thank my family, my coach, my agent, my bartender and the Great Hamster in the sky. This is for them. What the cage am I talking about? This is for me, all me!

I do want to thank my fellow competitors, you scared the cage out of me and that made me push myself harder. You all played a great game. Unfortunately, one of you will have to join our friends on the jury.

We can all have one last night in my HoH room and I will announce my choice early tomorrow evening.



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29. "RE: HamsterLympics Results & Awards"
You haven't stopped drinking yet, have you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug1AtdCQhZU&feature=related


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30. "Corvis"
still eating!

Hey audience! GO here to feed Corvis!

http://petgames.my-pet-care.com/hamster-games/lively-hamster.html


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24. "Congrats Michel"
I knew you were training hard but so was I!
I'm a little gun shy so every time that thing went *crack* I jumped 3 feet before I could get started. that's my excuse & I'm stickin to it

Little ole me came in for Silver?
Congrats Corvis on your Bronze - unfortunately silver & bronze get us nuttin but extra sunflower seeds to munch on.


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I think the only girl hamster in the race should've got a head start in some of those races....
I mean, seriously, is there any other Olympics where the girls compete head on with the boys?

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14. "Hi Belle"
For the record, Wayne was also my victim so it has nothing to do with gender!



Thanks Dear Abby!


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26. "RE: Hamster House Finale"
this waiting is killing me!
I really should find some work to do to take my mind off this

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28. "RE: Hamster House Finale"
I found a picture of Zenbot's assistant!


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31. "RE: Hamster House Finale"
You're making me laugh, jbug! Love it!


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32. "RE: Hamster House Finale"
Thank you Corvis.
I'm trying to make points with the jury in case I make it to F2.
I'm trying to keep everyone entertained (after all, isn't that all BB is about?). Entertainment = votes.

Now, don't you go stealing my strategy in case you make it instead of me!


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34. "F3 Eviction"
Hello fellow hamsters, jury, member of the audience and Zenbot.

This is the final eviction ceremony.

I first want to say that this game was a lot of fun and I enjoyed playing with you two. That being said, I have to make a decision and eliminate one of you two. Jbug has been loyal to me from the start and I told her that it would be great if the first two to enter the house would be the last two to leave.

Therefore, I have to evict Corvis.

Corvis, you played a great game, causing me many worries over the weeks. I know you could have won this game and I hope we can still be friends afterwards. This vote isn't personal, just part of a long term strategy.

((Hugs))


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35. "RE: F3 Eviction"
I'm so shocked.

See ya! I look forward to the finale. Good luck jbug!


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38. "RE: F3 Eviction"
Thank you Corvis. Now I have one more task ahead of me.


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37. "RE: F3 Eviction"
~~~~dances , dances , dances~~~~
****jumps up & down~~~~

Thank you Michel.
Being the first 2 in the house and the last 2 in the house is awesome.

Now to plan my jury speech.


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36. "My Case to the Jury"
LAST EDITED ON 09-19-11 AT 07:54 PM (EST)


To be sitting here, facing the jury, I certainly didn’t play nice but the first thing I want to say is that I played to make this game as fun as possible for us. Those exchanges, the banter, all that was really meant to be fun and I hope we can continue to exchange on the board in a similarly friendly manner. My style of play is to be with everyone and, simultaneously, to be against everyone because that is the essence of the game: You need people with you to keep you safe but you need to get rid of them all to win. In BB and in Survivor, dividing the house or the tribe is stupid because a new HoH or a tribal swap can kill your game. You need a united group (that’s why I insisted on unanimous votes) but the game isn’t a team game. That’s where the deception comes in. Survivor China’s Todd (or Outback Tina for the old-timers) is the player that I emulated.

The first bond I made was with Jbug. I even offered her a F2 deal right away, thinking it would be a great thing if the first two people joining the game would be the last two standing. Maybe you will think it was luck that got us here but, believe me, it was a lot of hard work.

An offer was also made to Krissmiss and Zazzy, one based on “I won’t nominate you if you don’t nominate me and I’ll help keep you safe if you get nominated.”
But the biggest alliance I wanted to establish was with friends from the Survivor boards: Suzzee, Corvis and Dear Abby. Getting us 4 to work together seemed natural and could have been a good road to the end but that alliance never really gelled.

Wayne was the only one I didn’t approach, the only one I didn’t really know. The one thing I knew about Wayne was that he is a regular of the OT threads. My biggest concern from the start was an alliance of OT’ers, one in which I would have very little foothold.

With so many alliances, it was clear that I wouldn’t be playing for HoH in week 1 but I would want my allies to go for it. I’d have to keep my eyes open for any floaters in those alliances. What is a floater in my eyes? It’s the opposite of my game: Instead of being with everyone and against everyone, a floater is with no one and against no one. They depend on luck and the goodwill of others to get to the end and that’s definitely not how I play.

The game started and Jbug was the first HoH. A long time poster, I knew she had many friends in the OT but I had made first contact with her so what better way to test for an OT alliance. I suggested Wayne as the target under the guise that he was the last to join, not a really active player and since we wanted the first in the house to be the last standing, the last player in “should” be the first target. I even told her that, in order to avoid getting a target on her back, she should tell the other player nominated that they would be safe. I knew one of my allies was going up on the block so I had to show that I was working for their safety.

That went very well until Zazzy won POV and Suzzee became MIA. I had Jbug questioning “our” choice, wanting to know if I'd agree with something Abby suggested: backdooring Suzzee, Suzzee? Certainly not because she had always been loyal to me but I had to keep that to myself. I had to work on two fronts; getting Zazzy to sit on the veto, saying we could work more down the road while using that veto could get me nominated, and reassuring Jbug that she had made the right choice. I also had to reach out to Suzzee to get her more involved.

As soon as the veto ceremony ended, I had Dear Abby asking me to save Wayne. A member of my alliance wanting to save an apparent outsider meant one thing: Abby was with Wayne. When she insisted that we could still be in an alliance but vote our separate ways, I knew Abby was building something on the side and I had my next target. Briefly, the thought of keeping Wayne entered my mind. Afterall, if I won HoH, I’d need to have someone to put on the block and I had promised safety to everyone else! Still, it was easier to avoid being HoH than to count on winning those random games. Wayne had to go and Abby would have to follow.

After the first elimination, I had to work on Corvis and Suzzee to get them to agree to vote out Abby. Since Dear Abby told me she wanted to save Wayne and Jbug told me Abby wanted to backdoor Suzzee, I assumed Dear Abby had contacted Zazzy to use the veto in order to change the nominations. That would be more ammunition that I could use against Abby. However, it turned out I didn’t need to convince anyone: Corvis and Suzzee were all in to get Abby out and Corvis had already convinced Zazzy. Suddenly however, a new threat was emerging: Corvis had been too eager to get rid of Dear Abby so I wondered if it could be because Abby had suggested Zazzy as the next eviction. Was there a strong pair out there that didn’t include me? I’d have to take care of that threat.

I had another concern: No one had tried to win HoH! With the clues that we were given, the answer had to be around 200 so, with Suzzee’s guess in the 400s and my answer being under 100, I knew that the game was indeed loaded with floaters. I went out on a limb, criticizing my allies for dodging all responsibilities and hoping to ride my coat-tails saying I wouldn’t have it. Avoiding HoH had worked for Dr Will so it was my strategy. I had to do something to keep it my own!

With Suzzee as HoH, the plan to eliminate Abby was set in motion. Corvis informed me that Abby had offered herself as the pawn in order to eliminate one of the non-Survivor-alliance members, Zazzy, Krissmiss or Jbug. My first thought was that it was perfect but then Abby set up a chat room so, with Corvis and Suzzee, we talked about the game. After that, I wondered if I could go through with the plan and still backstab her. To my surprise, Corvis was still just as gung-ho on the plan to backstab Abby so I told myself that I had to put feelings aside and do as planned.

At that point, Jbug proved that she was a strong player by winning her second competition in a row. That showed me that not everyone was going to throw the comps. Naturally, Jbug agreed to keep the veto but she was puzzled when she received news from both Kriss and Abby that they knew they were safe, that Suzzee had told them both that they were the pawn. It was time to let Jbug know that the plan was for Abby to leave but then another concern appeared: Corvis argued that we should leave Jbug in the dark, let her vote against Kriss since she liked Abby.

That sounded an alarm in my head: Corvis was playing for Abby’s jury vote. Sure, that meant Corvis was thinking about facing me in the end but I couldn’t let him pile up the votes. Under the pretense that a united vote is always best, I got him to agree to let Jbug in on the plan (even if she already was). I think I came up with valid arguments: Abby was nice and deserved the truth to come out, at the very least we owed her that. Also, Jbug had been convinced to sit on veto so leaving her in the dark now would make her mistrust us and she could possibly put us on the block. I had a few more arguments but those were the strongest ones. They worked and Corvis relented.

But then, Corvis showed me once more that he was playing behind my back: Kriss reported that he had “promised” her his vote only if she promised not to nominate him and to accept one of his suggestions if she became HoH. Krissmiss saw the benefits of us two being a closer pair while Corvis thought he was closer to Kriss than I. We’d keep tabs on our friend who was proving to be quite deceitful.

After Abby’s elimination, the next HoH was the first non-random one and an easy challenge to figure out at that. Throwing an easy comp would be hard because it would reveal my whole strategy. So, instead I decided to give the answer to some of my allies: Jbug, Krissmiss and Corvis. I thought Krissmiss particularly would want to be HoH. After all, I figured that, having been nominated twice, she’d jump at the chance of winning this one and being safe. Her answer disappointed me. She said: “Great answer buddy but you should submit it yourself.” Hummm…Wait, what? I had stuck my neck out for two weeks to save her and now she wanted me to do it once more and be the HoH that would protect her again. No way. I’d submit that answer and, if I became HoH, she could well become a replacement nominee. I mean, I really liked you, Kriss and I was honestly thinking that we could go far together but I needed more game play on your part.

But Zazzy won HoH and new problems arose. Zazzy showed that she didn’t trust me by asking me time and again what I would do if she didn’t nominate me. Whom would I target, whom would I vote against and would I promise once more not to nominate her. Weren’t we in an alliance? Hadn’t I already made those promises? When someone doesn’t trust me that tells me they are thinking of evicting me. I’d have to be extra nice to Zazzy but vote her out at the first occasion.

Like they say, people eliminate themselves in these games but Zazzy had the power so I had to pretend to be a good follower. To my disappointment, Zazzy had her sights on Suzzee. That was another sign of Corvis’ duplicity because I had told him that Suzzee would be loyal. Now I was sure that Corvis and Zazzy were a strong pair and they wanted me as their 3rd wheel so they were eliminating my options. Fortunately, I had many allies in the game so I could go along and still have numbers on my side. I agreed to voting out Suzzee to show I was with Corvis and Zazzy. The pain of sacrificing a dear friend was lessened by knowing I was saving another ally and that my alliance with Kriss would remain hidden.

The next HoH came along and this one I wanted to win in order to eliminate Zazzy. Corvis would also have to go up on the block because I didn’t want him to save Zazzy. Unfortunately, I lost that challenge in a tie-breaker and, to make matters worse, Corvis won it. I had to be a nice follower one more week but I feared having to choose between two allies again. Jbug had proven more trustworthy and a stronger player so she’d be my choice to keep but, for the same reasons, she was their main target. To save her, I came up with what I think was a terrific plan if Corvis would only nominate Zazzy as the “pawn”. Here is how I presented it to him:

>what I would do is use the tension between jbug and the duo of Zazzy and Kriss. I know Jbug isn't with them and she has voted the way we wanted from the start and went along with our suggestions when she was HoH and had veto.
>If Zazzy and Kriss are nominated, there will not be a veto used to save someone else, that is guaranteed. As a benefit, you gain points with Jbug for next week and that can be your explanation to Zazzy for putting her up as a pawn: You don't want to create an enemy for F4 when 1 vote decides everything.
If you nominate Jbug and Kriss, one of them stays in the house and could win POV next week. Now, if Zazzy or Kriss win POV this week, we still control the votes because I will vote for us. The worse could be a tie and you break that tie.
>With Zazzy and Kriss on the block and no veto used, we eliminate Kriss and then, at F4, you still have the rivalry between jbug and zazzy to protect you. If Jbug wins F4 POV, I’m sure she votes out Zazzy while you know Zazzy would eliminate Jbug. You’d have F3 guaranteed.

Of course, I would have asked Jbug to eliminate Zazzy right there and then but Corvis didn’t need to know that. Even if my plan was apparently leading him directly to the F3, Corvis decided to keep Zazzy safe. That really showed me where I stood but, surprisingly, I wasn’t the target. I had convinced them that I was in their alliance. Corvis even exposed that alliance in the main thread! Who does that?! On the one hand, it reassured me that I wasn’t his target but, on the other, it put a new challenge in front of me: Jbug and Kriss would know I had multiple deals. I was still hoping to save them both if one of us could win the veto but it looked like I’d see one more ally voted out. Fortunately, Jbug won veto but now I had to really start playing because the replacement nominee would be either me or Zazzy and I had very little doubt where Corvis’ true loyalties rested I once more tried to get Corvis to nominate Zazzy but it was all for nothing. I had to save myself so I told them the facts: Kriss had a wonderful underdog story to present to the jury. Surprisingly, it worked. I was sad to see Kriss go but it had been do or die for my game.

The rest came down to winning both the F4 HoH and then the Power of Veto. Finally, I had won the two most important competitions to date so I would be able to finalize my plan. The whole idea was to be in a similar position to the one Hatch had in Survivor Borneo. I wouldn’t need to win the final competition because I would be taken to the end by the other two. Unfortunately, Corvis took my move very personally even if that wasn’t the intent. He threatened to make it his mission that I lose even if he had to give the win to Jbug in the process. If that was the way things had to be then I’d adapt again and go for the win in the F3 hoH just as hard as I had in the last 3 competitions. I thought I had the right strategy to win 4 out of those final 7 events but it turned out that 3 wins were enough.

Jbug has played a good game as far as competions go but she won the early ones, when some of us (I’m sure I wasn’t alone) weren’t really trying to win them. I won the ones that really mattered so you can’t say she outplayed me. She doesn’t have anyone’s blood on her hands but that’s because she followed my directions. I have often read on the Survivor boards that viewers hated the result because the jury was bitter, causing the better player’s loss. Maybe some of those posts were even yours, so I ask you to look at my actions as being strictly game moves and nothing personally directed at you. I consider you all good players who just happened to get surprised this time.

I will be more than happy to answer your questions. Bring ‘em on!


Thanks Dear Abby!

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40. "RE: My Case to the Jury"
Just to avoid any confusion... Zenbot reminds the Jury that only one question can be asked (to be answered by both finalists) and only during the live vote tomorrow night and not in-thread here.

As done here, the two finalists may post as they please between now and 10:00 tomorrow and will also have the opportunity to make one final short speech prior to the vote (see below).

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168. "RE: My Case to the Jury"
Now that I've made my vote, michel, I'd like to give you a little insight to why I voted for jbug to win. First of all, it's too bad they don't have a Canadian version of Survivor; you would no doubt stay on the island all 39 days and win the million dollars. But this game wasn't designed to be about eight people stranded on an island. It was designed as a just-for-fun game similar to BB, and I believe you took it way too seriously.

IMO, you made an error taking jbug with you to F2. Her comp wins—especially the first HOH—were nothing to sneeze at. And her social game was awesome. She kept everyone entertained, and that's part of why I voted for her to win. She even said in Post #32 above that she was trying to make points with the jury. By saying that "out loud," she must've really had lots of faith in you; if I'd been in your shoes, that would've been a reason not to keep her around. Having said that, though, I probably would have voted Corvis to win over you if you had evicted jbug.

I'd also like to reply to a few things you said in the post above, with your comments italic and my bold emphasis.

I had Jbug questioning “our” choice, wanting to know if I'd agree with something Abby suggested: backdooring Suzzee, Suzzee?

I never made that suggestion to jbug. She pm'd me right after making her nominations, and I replied that I was surprised she had put up a fellow Tennessean and kept safe someone who hadn't joined the game at that point. Not a single word about saving Wayne or replacing him with suzzee.

As soon as the veto ceremony ended, I had Dear Abby asking me to save Wayne. A member of my alliance wanting to save an apparent outsider meant one thing: Abby was with Wayne. When she insisted that we could still be in an alliance but vote our separate ways, I knew Abby was building something on the side and I had my next target.

You made too many assumptions—and we all know what happens when we ass-u-me. I never asked you to "save" Wayne. All I did was suggest the four of us split our votes to hide our Survivor Veterans alliance. In fact, after jbug's nominations, when you asked how I thought we should vote and if I knew Wayne or if I had exchanged with him, I replied:

>Wow! You must've really said something
>great to jbug to keep
>our alliance safe. I'm shocked
>she didn't nominate suzzee, who
>has been MIA.
>
>I don't know Kriss or Wayne,
>and neither has PM'd me
>(yet). Let's wait and see
>how the POV turns out
>before we make a final
>decision.

And later, after the POV and you made your case for unanimous votes, I told you I was agreeable to voting out Wayne.

Since Dear Abby told me she wanted to save Wayne and Jbug told me Abby wanted to backdoor Suzzee, I assumed Dear Abby had contacted Zazzy to use the veto in order to change the nominations.

Your assumption would be wrong. Again. I never had any contact with zazzy until after her eviction. (And, like I said earlier, I never wanted to save Wayne or backdoor suzzee.)

I had another concern: No one had tried to win HoH! With the clues that we were given, the answer had to be around 200 so, with Suzzee’s guess in the 400s and my answer being under 100, I knew that the game was indeed loaded with floaters. I went out on a limb, criticizing my allies for dodging all responsibilities and hoping to ride my coat-tails saying I wouldn’t have it. Avoiding HoH had worked for Dr Will so it was my strategy. I had to do something to keep it my own!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *pause to take a breath* Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you really think we were all hoping to ride your coattails? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it's okay for you to avoid HOH but not anyone else?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and if you criticized me, it must've gotten lost in cyberspace. Wait ... maybe you didn't consider me one of your allies.

Jbug has played a good game as far as competions go but she won the early ones, when some of us (I’m sure I wasn’t alone) weren’t really trying to win them. I won the ones that really mattered so you can’t say she outplayed me. She doesn’t have anyone’s blood on her hands but that’s because she followed my directions. I have often read on the Survivor boards that viewers hated the result because the jury was bitter, causing the better player’s loss. Maybe some of those posts were even yours, so I ask you to look at my actions as being strictly game moves and nothing personally directed at you. I consider you all good players who just happened to get surprised this time.

Bitter? Not me. It's just a game—a game based on BB, not Survivor—and the last few comps aren't the only "ones that really mattered."

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09-21-11, 00:01 AM (EST)
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191. "RE: My Case to the Jury"
*nods*

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227. "RE: My Case to the Jury"
You really don't get it, do you? My goal was to get to the F2 and be able to tell everyone about my strategy, show how I think this game should be played. Certainly not Rachel's way or Jordan's way or Adam's way or the countless other lame contestants we have seen. My game had a bit of Will's and of Survivor's Todd but it wasn't enough. So be it.

Jbug gave me the safety of knowing she would take me if she won F3 HoH. Corvis and Zazzy were a pair that were going to take each other. Had there been a million dollars on the line, I would have played it like Hatch and let Corvis take me to the end but here...

You see, I know how jury works:

http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID4/4932.shtml

That was about Russell Hantz and I certainly wasn't as bad as that creep yet, despite everyone in that thread claiming that the jury should have accepted his great game play and given him the Title, this jury wasn't any different. I knew Jbug played the jury-friendly game, I simply didn't care. This reality TV savvy crowd was supposed to vote for gameplay but it didn't. Juries never do so I wasn't thinking of the win. I would have been impressed by that much objectivity but I didn't expect it.

As for you dying of laughter, you missed that other point: You weren't my ally by then so I was glad that you threw that competition. I was talking about Zazzy and Kriss who had submitted 0 for answer and Corvis who obviously missed by a mile. It simply was a trick to get them to win competitions, expose their plans and weaknesses.

No, I don't think you were bitter, just mad that I got you again. And even the Chenbot realizes that the last veto is the most powerful one of the season, the last HoH the most important one.

The game may be based on BB but, as far as I know we weren't trapped inside a house or stranded on an island. We were playing to eliminate each other and that is as much Survivor or BB. To object means that you would have voted differenly if this was in the Survivor thread and I know that isn't true.



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39. "Live Jury Vote schedule & format"

The two finalists for the Hamster House are michel and jbug. The winner will be decided by the votes of the Hamster House Jury Members. In the event of a tie vote, the vote of the last Jury Member evicted from the House will be the tie-breaker.

All six Jury Members are invited to the Live Jury Vote to be held at 10:00 EST, Tuesday. A Jury Member may opt to send a vote in advance by PM to the Zenbot instead of attending the Live Jury vote.

Live Jury Vote, Tuesday, 10:00 p.m. EST:

1. Welcoming of the Hamster House Finalists, michel and jbug, and the Jury Members.

2. Jury Members PM Zenbot their question for approval by Zenbot until all questions are approved. Jury Members who attend the Live Jury Vote may ask ONE question which will be answered by both of the finalists. Please keep the question fairly short and easily answerable. (Note: This can be done in advance of the Live Vote, if desired by the Jury Member.)

3. Jury Members post their approved question in the Jury Box within the thread.

4. Both Finalists provide short replies to the questions posted.

5. Both Finalists get the opportunity to post one last short speech as to why the Jury Members should vote for them.

6. Jury Members PM their votes to Zenbot.

7. Zenbot declares the outcome of the vote and the winner of the Hamster House game.

8. Prize-giving ceremony (something for everyone!).

Post-game comments (open posting):

Open discussion at your leisure. The Zenbot will also ask for feedback about the game format, competitions, realism and suggestions for next game (planned during next season of BB).

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59. "Pulls up chair..."
I'm ready. Let's get this show on the road!


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61. "Corvis?"
right down there?
You're looking hot man! I mean hamster!
not fair that I can't reply right after him


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62. "RE: Pulls up chair..."
We're on at 10 sharp, in about 10 minutes! And I think we can do this in about 1/2 hour. The jurists have already had their submitted questions approved.


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78. "Zenbot!"
where are posts going to go? at the bottom of this threaed?
It's getting hard to find new post all up & down....
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41. "Jury Box"
This thread for Hamster House Jury Members only.

The Jury Box is closed until it opens for the Live Vote on Tuesday, 10:00 p.m. EST.

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60. "Dressed for jury"
I know I'm a little early, but I wanted to show off my tux.


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79. "RE: Dressed for jury"
*smooch smooch* You clean up real good corvis!


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80. "RE: Dressed for jury"
rrrrroooooowwwwwlllll


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82. "RE: Dressed for jury"
Thank you, ladies. You're all looking mighty fine yourselves.


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69. "KRISMISS IS HERE"
Now the party can start


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71. "RE: KRISMISS IS HERE"
am i the only one here?


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70. "suzzee in the cage"

now what

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74. "HEY ZENBOT"
can we start a new thread on this?


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87. "RE: HEY ZENBOT"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 10:21 PM (EST)

You can post your question in the question thread below for michel and jbug to answer.

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72. "RE: Jury Box"
I'm here!
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77. "RE: Jury Box"
*clapping furiously as the rest of the jury slide into the room*


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75. "RE: Jury Box"
Me, too!
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81. "RE: Jury Box"
The Jury members may now post their question to the Final Two here, where michel and jbug can reply to them.

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85. "RE: Jury Box"
Zenbot...wayne is first...you have is q?
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86. "RE: Jury Box"
Congratulations to the both of you!


Each of you chose a competition
strategy, one to go for
the wins, the other to
hold back. While both strategies
have been successful they also
have pitfalls. What pros and
cons did you weigh when
you made the decision as
to which path you would
take it the Hamster House.



Hamsterized by D'Abs Traumatized by the Hamster House


OH NO!


Don't feed the Hamsters




Light my torch



Charter member of the Sarcasm Society


agman makes me hot


A Tribe masterpiece


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89. "RE: Jury Box"
Actually Suzzee, I chose to hold back only in the first 2 weeks.
Winning the early HoH puts a target on your back and you saw that first hand. Starting week 4, I went all out to win and it worked well for me. That's the best strategy: Win the challenges you need to win.


Thanks Dear Abby!


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91. "Suzzee"
I've always been a competitor. I played lots of sports in my younger years, so it never occurred to me to play any other way than to win!
So I came in fired up, pumped up and ready to go at it!


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96. "Thanks michel & JBug"
good luck both of you



OH NO!

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90. "Question by combined jurists on behalf of Wayne"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 10:25 PM (EST)

Wayne will not be here tonight, so we have included a question put together by all of the Jury who are here tonight. The question is:

"Do you think you made it to F2 against the hamster who gives you the best chance of winning? Briefly explain why or why not."

Questions (also) below.

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97. "RE: Question by combined jurists on behalf of Wayne"
I like that question. Yes I do because Corvis would have had the same arguments to make to the jury. He was a strategist and played extremely well and hard himself. The jury would have had trouble differentiating us.

With Jbug, the choice is clear: She won competitions and I strategized. yet, I won 2 HoH and the critical F4 veto so I think I equal her there. Jbug was loyal but she really only was loyal to me and i was just as loyal to her as she was to me.



Thanks Dear Abby!

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98. "RE: Question by combined jurists on behalf of Wayne"
Interesting...
after learning how Michel backdoored a few hamsters - or stabbed them in the back if the case may be - I feel I may get votes just because he made a few ememas
But my strategy to play every comp hard compared to his strategy to hold back may be the best way for me to win.


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09-20-11, 10:13 PM (EST)
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92. "Question from DearAbby"
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Question moved to below.

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102. "RE: Question from DearAbby"
As far as I go, Jbug told me you suggested to backdoor Suzzee and you later asked me to save Wayne so I had to trust what I was being shown. It's hard to be sure of anything but that's what I saw.


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103. "abby"
Oh my... Did I really say backdoor in reference to that?
If I did I apologize.
I said a few times that you "put the bug in my ear"
and NO, I don't think you ever planned to backdoor Suzzee. You were trying to save Wayne.


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09-20-11, 10:22 PM (EST)
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106. "RE: abby"
i liked the enema comment



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128. "RE: abby"
FTR? that was an intentional spelling
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09-20-11, 12:40 PM (EST)
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42. "JBug Case to the Jury"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 12:52 PM (EST)

Let me begin by saying I have had the most wonderful time here in the Hamster House with all of you. A few of you I sorta knew before; others I really only got to know since entering the House. So, I say thank you to Cahaya Zenbot for giving me this place to meet more cyber friends.

Little did I know when I joined this game that some of you have such experience at these things! And that some of you are reality tv strategist experts. Now that I know you better, I'm paying more attention to your comments – especially in Survivor – and I realize you don't just watch these shows! Some of you live them!

On to my game play & my strategy.
I was the first to join the game a& as Michel said, he suggested we team up as the 1st in, last out alliance. Since I've never played this kind of game before, that was good for me. I did not know he had other alliances on the side; however, I did suspect he did. As long as he continued to assure me that I was #1, that was all that mattered. I gave my word to him; I expected nothing less from him. That's the way I am.

Then? I started getting alliance offers from several others. Zaazzy wanted me to team up with her & Corvis as an AI alliance. Then it's D'Abby who wants to team up. I hear nothing from Wayne, Suzzee or Kriss. But I wonder aloud in pms to Michel & Zazzy about how I should handle the multiple alliance proposals. I can't lie; not in my nature; so I beat around the bush with Zazzy, Corvis & D'Abby.

When I won first HoH, I was ecstatic! .Then, reality set in. I had to nominate 2 people; worry about the future repercussions and? worry about the veto.
I couldn't nom Corvis; he found the pics to make our siggies; and D'Abby made them so that made her safe. Michel suggests Wayne & Kriss as the unknowns. See? Even from the beginning, he was manipulating me. But don't think he pulled all the strings. Just as many other hamsters were making just as many friendy suggestions. The only difference was that Michel is the one I was saving all along, at every turn & choice I made. I was warned plenty of times to watch out for him. I could have joined with others at to backdoor him several times. But, I had given him my word; my word is my bond. Therefore, Michel was safe because I would not turn on him.

Now we are to the end and it's no longer in our hands. In a way, I felt like a cross between Jordan & Rachel. I played honestly and nice and was friends with everyone. I brought food & lots of entertainment and kept fun going in the threads even during times when others didn't have as much to say. I even had a few blonde moments when I had to ask the Bot for further explanation on some of the competitions. Then I became the Comp Queen like Rachel. How about that? Similarities to 2. count them TWO Big Brother winners!

So, what do you say, Jury?


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more to come, keep going....

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09-20-11, 12:41 PM (EST)
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43. "Wayne"
My dear friend and fellow right wing Tennessean Wayne, I do regret that you were evicted on my watch. When D'Abby pointed out to me that Suzzee was relatively MIA, I realized I could have put a separate alliance together you & her. I tried my best to get you off the block. I sorta thought it would be smart of the Veto winner – Zazzy – to do as the HoH asked as long as it wouldn't put one of her alliance up in your place. But I couldn't convince her. And yes I tried just as hard as she posted in her comments before she was evicted. I know at the time you said you'd vote for anyone who was against me in F2, but I hope you'll reconsider. You can see how I played the game all the way thru; with integrity & honesty. And I played full out on every challenge; no slacking or throwing comps for me!


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09-20-11, 08:20 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Wayne"
Yes, Wayne is a long time poster in the OT threads like I wrote above. He is a very opinionated poster and he defends his position with a passion to admire but, at the same time, that made him very dangerous. Next time Wayne, we should talk immediately and get togeteher!



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09-20-11, 12:42 PM (EST)
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44. "D'Abby"
My dear friend and another fellow Tennessean, Abby, we have known each other for a long time. If we had just connected in the Hamster House sooner, you & Wayne & I could have fought together. I'm sorry I had to vote to evict you; all three other votes were evicting you so I had to go along; it would not have help you but would have put a target on me if I had voted to evict Kriss instead. I hope you understand.


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09-20-11, 08:24 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: D'Abby"
When I heard that both Abby and Jbug were from Tennessee, that alarmed me. (I didn't know Wayne was from that State also!) But really, Abby had just proven in Tribe's "What If" game that she was good at getting votes and some of my favorite players had been voted out because of her. I was worried from the start so hearing about the plan to backdoor Suzzee told me what I had to do.


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09-21-11, 11:31 AM (EST)
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211. "RE: D'Abby"
LAST EDITED ON 09-21-11 AT 12:17 PM (EST)

Congratulations, jbug. I do understand why you had to vote me out. I went along with michel's "gotta be unanimous" theory the first week. I just wish you had given me a heads-up like you said you would! But I have to admit ... being blindsided was kinda fun.

Edit: Since we're laying it all out there ... I knew from the beginning I couldn't trust michel. Here's what I said to you after I went up on the block and asked you to have my back.

>I also got a commitment from
>michel, and he said he'd
>put in a good word
>for me. Let me know
>if he throws me under
>the bus instead, LOL!

And, sneaky thing that you are, you never let on!

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09-21-11, 07:04 PM (EST)
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228. "RE: D'Abby"
I knew that you knew my game so I had to get you out. All that stuff about wayne was the justification but the reason was that you didn't trust me. This is a game of trust, nothing else. Someone doesn't trust you, get them out now!



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09-20-11, 12:45 PM (EST)
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45. "Suzzee"
Hello Suzzee, my sock puppet friend. I remember when you got that siggy from one of the funniest times in BB history. By now you know I had second thoughts after putting Wayne on the block. Since you were MIA for most of the time, and Abby put a bug in my ear, you became a target. Luckily for you (that week) Zazzy refused to use the Veto. Sorry you were having a sucky IRL that week too. When you & I were on the block together, I figured I was a goner. I had only one alliance; by then I figured that others were working together & I'd be the odd hamster out. I got lucky on the Veto; Kriss was put up with you and, whammo, you got evicted instead of me. Like the week Abby left, the votes were determined, so again it made no sense not to go along.
I had a great time playing with you. I look forward to the next Hamster House with you there again


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09-20-11, 08:27 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: Suzzee"
Suzzee, we had voted together on many of Tribe's games so I knew I could trust you. My hands were pretty much tied when you were nominated. Trying to save you would have exposed my role in the shadows. I didn;t know what to tell you so I guess you took that as me leading the vote against you but it wasnlt the case. I understood why you tried to throw me under the bus but I hope you realized that I wasn't your enemy.


Thanks Dear Abby!


Ils sont fous, ces Romains!

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09-20-11, 12:46 PM (EST)
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46. "Kriss"
Well, Kriss! What a ride we had and so much fun! Your claim to fame is going up on the block more times than anyone else and surviving so many times! I still laugh at all the times you had to beg to be saved! I shouldn't laugh, I know sitting on the block is no fun. But you were such a good sport and took it all in stride. You know now that with my one and only alliance on the block with you, there was no way I could save you. You were great fun to play with and we'll do it again! And? I'm glad I convinced you to join the fun over at Be The Survivor!


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09-20-11, 08:32 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Kriss"
In the beginning, I was really considering taking Zazzy with me to the end. I trusted her and I think she trusted me but then I heard that she was plotting against me. Maybe that was true, maybe it wasn't but, by then, I had realized that she wasn't going to help me by being HoH. I still wanted her to go far but it soon became a choice between us two. I had no way of voting to keep her safe anymore.


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09-21-11, 00:06 AM (EST)
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193. "RE: Kriss"
Oh, pray tell. Just when did you hear that I was plotting against you and who told you that? This I have to hear!


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09-21-11, 07:11 PM (EST)
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229. "RE: Kriss"
LAST EDITED ON 09-21-11 AT 07:14 PM (EST)


Suzzee, on her way out told me to watch out for you and Kriss. I knew you were dangerous. Kriss? I didn't think so but you have to listen and remember things in this game.

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09-21-11, 07:53 PM (EST)
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233. "RE: Kriss"
LOL, I figured that either Suzzee or Jbug or both would tell you that I told them that you had tried to get me to lie about Dear Abby.

Good thing I won HOH the next week. But it did not take you long, did it, for you to start campaigning to Corvis to boot me.

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09-21-11, 09:42 PM (EST)
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236. "RE: Kriss"
Zazzy, I had you in my sights as soon as Jbug told me that you and Corvis tried to recruit her for a three-way alliance. My suspicions were reinforced when I tested Corvis, offering him a three-way alliance with Suzzee. He said you would be a better 3rd and then you went and nominated Suzzee. See how these things work? I was never in the trio, Never. I trusted Corvis to keep me but knew he had other coals in the fire. I couldn't do a thing except pretend to be with you.

I never told Corvis I wanted to boot you. That would have been dumb. I was already taking a big risk telling him I thought you were targeting me. I was always saying: "Corvis, Zazzy will vote me out." Never; "I want Zazzy out." With this approach, he promised to keep me safe instead, to get you to work with me.

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09-20-11, 12:47 PM (EST)
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47. "Zazzy"
Hi fellow dog lover Zazzy. What can I say? Your initial request that I join you and Corvis in an alliance was tempting; I just couldn't figure out how to handle more than one alliance (now that I see how Michel did it , I've learned what it takes to do that. ). I think I'm better off having kept to my one solid alliance, but at the time I even asked you how to handle more than one, remember? LOL About your very carefully worded pms about keeping me safe? Me thinks you've had some experience & easily made me think you were saying you'd not put me up, when you were really promising I'd be safe when you did! Boy was I shocked! But you kept your word and I was safe (tho I did sweat a lot – and for a hamster I don't think that is healthy). When I was taken off the block & you were put on it, you knew then that Michel and I were together. Not much I could do at that point to save you. My one and only alliance wanted you gone; I wasn't about to go against his wishes and evict Corvis instead. Sorry that I misinterpreted your lengthy posts to the jury and audience about what had been going on. Maybe after I got caught by your exact wording before, I was reading between the lines very carefully and adding my own too! You made it to Final 4 and I know you wanted to go all the way, but the tables turned in my favor instead of yours.


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09-20-11, 08:38 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Zazzy"
Zazzy was quite a player. I suspected she had played some of these before but even more power to her that she didn't.

Fortunately, I knew from the start that she was in tight with Corvis. I respected her game a lot so the only way to beat her was to lie. I had fun talking with her about other things but, after week one, I was extremely guarded with her, telling her things only to put her doubts about me to rest.


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09-20-11, 12:48 PM (EST)
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48. "Corvis"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 01:26 PM (EST)

Well, well, well Corvis. First time I've really interacted with you here in RTVW world and let me tell you I have loved it! You are a stand up guy. And? You are way good at these games! You analyze strategy – You are a pro! Now when I read you comments in other reality forums, I realize just who & what I was up against! I can't believe I made it this far against the likes of you! That F4 HoH competition came down to the luck of the draw – 2 draws in fact. If I had been able to count sticks as well as I counted circles, I know your expertise in strategy would have been brought out in full force to show why you deserved to be in the F2 instead of Michel.
There's not much I can say about my getting to the end instead of you once we made it to Final 3. The Olympics were another comp that involved some strategy but also more random stuff. It happens.
You have taught me new ways to look at how reality games are played. Reality TV shows are no longer mindless entertainment for me. They are so much more when one tries to figure out the hows and whys of the various moves. So I thank you.


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09-20-11, 08:45 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Corvis"
I think I only need to second what Jbug just wrote. We had a lot of fun playing together but, because Zazzy was so close to you, I simply couldn't go to the end with that F3. I thought it would be 2 against 1 and I hate those odds. My prefered F3 situation is Hatch's where he could say: You two battle it out. Then you forced me to fight for that last HoH and I'm glad I did. Being like Rachel, I don't think that I look good with her fake boobs but it's fun to say that I am a competitor!



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09-20-11, 12:50 PM (EST)
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49. "Michel"
You're not jury, but I have something to say to you too.

What can I say to you Michel? From the beginning we promised to stick together to the end. First 2 in; last 2 standing. I took a chance making an alliance with a hamster I didn't know well; one who I had seen posting a lot about background stuff in Survivor forums; one who knows Survivor history like the back of his hand! But, I am a trusting soul, so I jumped in feet first with you. I had no inkling what a master manipulator I was teaming up with!
Yes, as you say, it was a lot of hard work to get us both to the end; but I won't let you take all the credit. You had me believing you were trying as hard as I was to win every competition. You kept me in the dark that you planned to let me do the dirty work at first. Wonder if you realized how it would turn out in the end. I busted my butt to win comps, thinking one of us had to win to keep both of us safe. So I became the Comp Queen and got a target on my back for that. When you say you won the comps at the end that counted, you have to admit that the luck of the 2 draws is the only reason you got the final HoH. That could just as easily have gone my way.
Regardless, I still had a blast playing with you. I don't hold your strategy against you; in fact, I admire the time you must have put into it. It's been a blast being your partner for the whole way. We made quite a pair. I can't believe we were able to keep how strong our alliance was a secret from the other hamsters; they may have suspected us, but I don't think they knew for sure.


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09-20-11, 08:58 PM (EST)
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57. "June"
Yes, Jbug, it was fun to play with you. I even proposed a showmance but you were taken already!! My biggest disappointment this whole game...

I know that the comps were rather random but you have to admit that I put a lot of consideration in figuring out the best strategy to attack those games. Both the card game and the Olympics, I shared with you my plans. And there were two other competitions where I lost tie-breakers so I was due to win one! I do believe we are Comp King and Queen!

As for how much time I put in, I just counted the number of PMs I received during the game: 452. That a big inbox!



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09-20-11, 09:14 PM (EST)
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58. "RE: June"
As for how much time I put in, I just counted the number of PMs I received during the game: 452. That a big inbox!

I won't even bother to count mine. With only one alliance, most of my pms are from you! I didn't have all the others to be conversing with every day! I don't know how you kept up with them all!


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09-20-11, 09:51 PM (EST)
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63. "Okay, I'm here......"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 09:53 PM (EST)


oops, wrong place, sorry members of the jury

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09-20-11, 09:55 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: Okay, I'm here......"
Ah, hah, here's our biggest fan and occasional interloper!


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09-20-11, 09:59 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Okay, I'm here......"
You should have said our bigger fan because I think we only have two...
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09-20-11, 10:04 PM (EST)
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76. "Live Finale Show!"

Greetings one and all to the live finale of Hamster House! Tonight the Hamster House Jury will elect the winner of Hamster House.

Without further ado... I would like to introduce our host (wardrobe attire by agman himself)...

Trulie Zhen!

Hello, everybody! It has been an honor indeed to host the Hamster House game for you this season.

After six weeks, eleven competitions, and many hundreds of posts and PM's, it all now rests with the Hamster House Jury.

Jurists! You may now submit your questions to the Final Two hamsters within the Jury Box (above). Jbug and michel, you may answer their questions as you see them posted. Please keep your answers brief so that we can squeeze in a few words from our sponsors, thank you!

We begin now.

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09-20-11, 10:08 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: Live Finale Show!"
Psst, zenbot...post Wayne's q...he was the first evicted...
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09-20-11, 10:10 PM (EST)
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88. "ZEN CHECK YOUR PM"


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09-20-11, 10:14 PM (EST)
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94. "RE: ZEN CHECK YOUR PM"
Got it and responded, thank you.

Post your question in the Jury Box above. The combined Jury question has been posted there as well.

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09-20-11, 10:09 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Live Finale Show!"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 10:09 PM (EST)

Those curls up there make it difficult to keep things in order. The Q&A could be down here, no?

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09-20-11, 10:29 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 10:31 PM (EST)

michel and jbug, please indicate when you have finished answering your questions down below. Then we will proceed to your final speeches.

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93. "RE: Hamster House Finale"
Zenbot!

The jury would like you to start an entirely new thread for the q's . It is cumbersome to try to find the new posts on this thread.

Thank you.

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95. "Jury, ask you questions here"
By request of the Jury.

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99. "By the combined jurists on behalf of Wayne"
Wayne will not be here tonight, so we have included a question put together by all of the Jury who are here tonight. The question is:

"Do you think you made it to F2 against the hamster who gives you the best chance of winning? Briefly explain why or why not."

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101. "Krismiss's question"
*swoop*

Michel's strategy was to have multiple alliances and jbug's was
to have only one. Why did you choose to go that way?



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107. "RE: Krismiss's question"
I can't lie' I never learned to - seriously.
I know it's just a game so I don't want to think that in IRL Michel lies a lot, but even in a game I can't do it.
So I had to choose to go with only 1 hamster in my alliance.


D'Abby Special
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109. "RE: Krismiss's question"
You need to be with everyone to know what is going on. You need others to trust you to stay safe. You need to be with others to know who is targeting you. Information is the key to the game and you only get info if people trust you.
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105. "RE: By the combined jurists on behalf of Wayne"
Copy/paste from above:

I like that question. Yes I do because Corvis would have had the same arguments to make to the jury. He was a strategist and played extremely well and hard himself. The jury would have had trouble differentiating us.

With Jbug, the choice is clear: She won competitions and I strategized. yet, I won 2 HoH and the critical F4 veto so I think I equal her there. Jbug was loyal but she really only was loyal to me and i was just as loyal to her as she was to me.

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113. "copied & pasted from above-- Wayne"
>Interesting...
>after learning how Michel backdoored a
>few hamsters - or stabbed
>them in the back if
>the case may be
>- I feel I may
>get votes just because he
>made a few ememas
>
>But my strategy to play every
>comp hard compared to his
>strategy to hold back may
>be the best way for
>me to win.
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100. "RE: Jury, ask you questions here"
First, I apologize for not covering my oobies. Corvis stole my coconuts as we were leaving the sequester house.

Hello, michel. Hello, jbug. Congratulations on making it to F2.You both have accused me of making the suggestion to backdoor suzzee, when all I said to jbug is that I was surprised she nominated a fellow Tennessean and not the person who was MIA from the game. My question to you both is: Why did you assume I wanted to backdoor suzzee?

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110. "RE: Jury, ask you questions here"
Another copy/paste


As far as I go, Jbug told me you suggested to backdoor Suzzee and you later asked me to save Wayne so I had to trust what I was being shown. It's hard to be sure of anything but that's what I saw.

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111. "RE: Jury, ask you questions here"
opied pasted from above...

Oh my... Did I really say backdoor in reference to that?
If I did I apologize.
I said a few times that you "put the bug in my ear"
and NO, I don't think you ever planned to backdoor Suzzee. You were trying to save Wayne.

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117. "After answering..."
michel and jbug, please indicate when you have finished answering your questions here. Then afterward, we will proceed to your final speech.

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133. "RE: After answering..."
I think I got them all.
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136. "RE: After answering..."
The final speech thread is up and ready when you are.
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114. "zazzy's question"
How important in Big Brother is the social game and how do you evaluate your social game in the Hamster House game?

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123. "RE: zazzy's question"
The social game is the most important factor. If people don't like you, they don't talk to you. If they don;t talk to you, you could be the best strategist ever, they won't give a damn. You socialize as part of your strategy and you socialize in order to avoid being left out of the loop.

My social game allowed me to know what was going on most of the timer and it allowed me to submit my ideas on whom to vote, whom to keep. It was very successful in that respect and i think it was also good enough to keep people amused.



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125. "zazzy"
Social game is big big.
And I believe I played a great social game. I brought a lot of fun stuff to the cage for everyone to do.
I talked with everyone.
I played the Jordan social game. Not imitating her...but just being myself. I like people and I like for people to like me. That is one reason that I got so stressed out being the first HoH. I didn't want to do anything to make anyone not like me.

(forgive my lack of siggy - my computer is slowing down really bad!! maybe too many post trying to go on at the same time)

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116. "Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
I don't see your questions. Where are they?
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118. "RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
Answer Zazzy's and then i'll post mine.


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119. "RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
me either Michel. I'm beginning to think that trying to find all the questions so they can be answered might be yet another challenge!
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121. "RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
i asked for a new thread *shrug* blame the zen


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129. "RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
We'll get production to work on that next season. Live and learn.


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122. "RE: Corvis, Zazzy questions?"
See zazzy's above.

Corvis, you may post your question now.

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124. "Corvis' question"
*reads michel's response to Zazzy*

Hmm. I don't think you understand the term social game, michel. That being said...

I would never have brought Survivor into a Big Brother game, but michel did so I want to put it out there. Right before I was voted out, michel told me that voting for jbug over him was like voting for Courtney (someone who didn’t do much to get to the F3) over todd (who is considered a master strategist by many) from Survivor: China. Michel, can you explain that statement? And jbug, how do you feel about that assessment?


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126. "RE: Corvis' question"
Social game is the ability to socialize with everyone. I did that as well as anyone but, at some point, the society has to be broken up.

As for the Todd vs Courtney statement, I did play like Todd's Art of war: Keep your opponents and your allies guessing about your true intentions. Courtney made the F3 because she stuck with Todd much like Jbug stuck with me. I made sure at every turn that she could trust me. Trust is the key to this game.



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127. "Corvis"
I resent that implication!
saying I didn't do much to get to F3?
really? I drug his furry butt all the way thru the beginning.
He floated along like a Porche with a Golden Key & didn't start playing till half way thru the game.

sorry I had to bring it this way, but facts are facts.

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130. "RE: Corvis"
Ooh, michel. Rebuttal?


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131. "RE: Corvis"
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-11 AT 10:50 PM (EST)

I'm sorry but the best player ever in BB was Dr Will and he never won a HoH. That is actually the only smart way to play. After you won HoH I had to guide you to keep you safe, telling you to warn Kriss she was only a pwan in order to avoid getting her against you. I also told you that it would be best not to have the veto used in order to keep the enemas at a minimum

ETA: And i didn't float like Porsche: I had my hand on the wheel at all times, directing who would go, who would stay. Porsche? Lol!

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135. "RE: Corvis"
I never saw the Dr Will BB so.

You were livid when I wanted to take Wayne off & put Suzzee up as the replacement! NOW I know why!

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132. "Final speeches by michel and jbug"
With all the Jury's questions answered, we now move on to the final speech by michel and jbug. Both of you may prepare and post at the same time.

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137. "I'm ready"
I'm sure Michel wants to see what I have to say first so here it is; already prepared.

Jury, it's in your hands.
I hope you will see that I played hard; I played honestly; I played to have fun; I played with integrity. I played to WIN all the way to the end (not just when it was convenient).
I value the friendships I made with each of you.
When it's all said and done, we'll p.a.r.t.y!


This is for you Vince; love & miss you bug guy...

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138. "RE: I'm ready"
Michel must have a lot to say! LOL
While we're waiting for him...
Corvis, thanks for finding the jbug fishhook and all the other pics for us.
Abby, thanks for making the siggies. They really added a special and personal touch to our posts all season!


D'Abby Special

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139. "Final speech by michel "
BB is a game of strategy and I used strategy from the start. In order to see that strategy get a chance to succeed, I had to socialize with all of you. We had fun together, that I know. But the game is also about trust so I had to get people to trust me in order to get to the end. That causes some hurt feelings but BB isn't a nice game, it can be very vicious. I kept things very game oriented, never making it personal so those fun exchanges were real, not fake.

As for avoiding winning competitions, that is the way Dr Will played and that is the smartest way to go: You only win challenges when you need them. Playing to win early is pointless because you don't know who are your targets. You wind up making allies with a manipulator like me while voting out people that you could you have used down the road. I stayed in the shadows, learning about the players: Who were the threats, who were trustworthy, who could help me, who could hurt me, elaborating my plan as I went along. Then, when I knew where everyone stood, I struck and surprised everyone. That is the game: Outwitting.

Like I said, I know you are all good players that simply got surprised by me this time so, even if you don't particularly like my tactics, you have to admit it was a good game.


Thanks Dear Abby!

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142. "RE: Final speech by michel "
And yes, we will party afterwards!
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141. "zenbot"
see your
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145. "RE: zenbot"
Got it, jbug. (More on this later, folks.)
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153. "RE: zenbot"
I'm back - all okay
now to read about voting....
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140. "Jury Voting"
To the Jury, you may vote now by PM to Zenbot.

As a treat... we have something for you, courtesy of agman.

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143. "RE: Jury Voting"
Pretty! Thank you, Zen. Thanks, agman.

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144. "RE: Jury Voting"
Thanks, agman. Very cool.


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146. "RE: Jury Voting"
Why thank you Zen and agman, this is awesome!!!

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147. "RE: Jury Voting"
thanks mr. streak!


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148. "Results, by a vote of..."
6-0, the winner of Hamster House 2011 is... Agman!

(This is a prank requested by all by the Jury present! They asked to do this.)

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152. "RE: Results, by a vote of..."
*feigns disbelief,,,,
Oh my...I'd like to thank everyone except that I don't have time becaue I need to get my butt back up in the balcony before Zen knocks me out!


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206. "This?"
almost got me! I saw the 6 - 0
and thought I lost by all votes? then I read the rest...
got me!


Showin off my win! Thanks Cahaya-wonderful game!

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212. "RE: This?"

I think they did that because they knew you are a blonde

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149. "RE: Jury Voting"
Yeah! A new siggie!

This is my fifth one! I have a collection now! Thanks, Agman/Joker!

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151. "The Winner of the Hamster House"
By a vote of 4-2 is...

Congratulations, jbug! Well done!

And congratulations also to michel, as the runner-up.

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154. "RE: The Winner of the Hamster House"
Congratulations, Jbug!



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155. "RE: The Winner of the Hamster House"
Congrats, jbug! Well deserved win!

And congrats to michel too, for your second place finish. Not too shabby at all.


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164. "RE: The Winner of the Hamster House"
As far as I know, the prize money is the same so it doesn't really matter. All I wanted was to have a chance to explain my strategy to the jury. That's the way BB should be played not the boring way we see so many times on TV.


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207. "RE: The Winner of the Hamster House"
There's prize money?
Where do we pick up our checks?


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205. "flowers?"
for me?
~~takes bows~~


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09-20-11, 11:16 PM (EST)
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156. "Congratulations Jbug"
I guess nice wins over game. You did have a very good jury performance but the jury was bitter!

Anyway, I like my new siggie, courtesy of our bigger fan.


Now, who voted for whom? I have some thank yous to give.

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09-20-11, 11:19 PM (EST)
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160. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Jury wasn't bitter. Some of us just thought jbug played a better social game. Don't dismiss jbug's win like that!

I voted for the bug. I am surprised it was 4-2. I was expecting 5-1.


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09-20-11, 11:24 PM (EST)
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169. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Hmm. I was expecting 6-0.
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09-22-11, 02:26 PM (EST)
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243. "Anyone seen Wayne?"
I missed him being at the Finale. I was wanting to apologize again - & I wanted him to hear what happened the way it happened.

Anyone know why he was MIA?
Surely he wasn't that mad at me for being the cause of his boot in the first eviction, was he?

Wayne? are you here?


Showin off my win! Thanks Cahaya-wonderful game!

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09-22-11, 04:02 PM (EST)
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244. "RE: Anyone seen Wayne?"
LAST EDITED ON 09-22-11 AT 08:16 PM (EST)


I'm Newsome's new publicist and attorney. You may refer to me as Mr. Ag . New is suing for defamation of character, wrongful first round boot And your winner's siggie. I will be up soon with a concept siggie of what it will have to look like. If you have any questions or complaints regarding this matter, talk to the hand! Oh yea, have a nice day.

Tribe styled my Fro

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09-22-11, 04:10 PM (EST)
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245. "You can tell Mr Wayne "
that he can have this winners siggy when he can pry my cold dead hands from around it.


Showin off my win! Thanks Cahaya-wonderful game!

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09-20-11, 11:21 PM (EST)
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165. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Congrats to both of you on getting where you did. WIth regard to how I voted, I voted for Jbug. Honestly michael, you had me at about 50% before this live vote. But then I started thinking about what you said. You raised really good points...for Survivor, not BB. Then in replying to Jbug's comments to each of us individually, you couldn't even remember you were talking to Krismiss, not Zazzy, so that sealed your fate ;) Actually, I liked your gameplay. I just hate being played.

But I am looking forward to hearing more from you on the other threads. BTW - i'm not bitter.

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09-20-11, 11:56 PM (EST)
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190. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
I apologize for the mix-up in names. I had a long day at work and was exhausted before even turning on the computer.

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09-20-11, 11:31 PM (EST)
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175. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Earth to Michel:

"I guess nice wins over game. You did have a very good jury performance but the jury was bitter!

Anyway, I like my new siggie, courtesy of our bigger fan."

Even with the final results you still don't get it!

You have been playing Survivor in the Hamster House!

This is a game modeled on BB. It is not outwit, outlast, outplay.

It is a mind game, and you need to be conscious of how your moves are received by the other players because very little is hidden.

There are things you have taken credit for when you don;t know the whole story.

In jury discussion, the vote was 5-0 for Jbug among the active members. Not sure who might have switched a the end.

In any event, a majority saw Jbug's balanced game of social+ comp prowess.

This was *not* about people being bitter.

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09-20-11, 11:33 PM (EST)
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177. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Well said, zazzy.
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09-20-11, 11:53 PM (EST)
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189. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
First of all, BB is just a Survivor wannabee! The first season was a dud so they decided to imitate survivor and get the players on the jury to vote for the winner. It is the same Outwit, Outplay, Outlast, just more random because HoH decides everything.

Of course I was conscious of how the moves were received: You were upset, you even said you'd never play again. That's what decided your vote.

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09-21-11, 00:20 AM (EST)
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195. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
*sigh*


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09-21-11, 00:30 AM (EST)
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196. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
More tomorrow...but this thought while it is fresh on my mind:

you appear to have great respect for the Survivor game,

At the same time, you disregard the BB game.

Many times real BBers have said that BB is an easier game to play than Survivor but it is harder to win.

If you look back over the evictees, do you see one or more people it would have been better to be in the F2 with?

That is part of the strategy, too.

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09-21-11, 07:39 AM (EST)
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198. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
Despite having some loosy ones, Survivor never had bad winners like Adam, Jordan and Rachel to name only a few of the latest. In fact, BB only ever had two good winners: Dan and Will. I'd actually put Maggot and Dyck right behind them!

As for asking about the other F2 evictee, are you Heidi? I considered everyone but the main goal was to have people in the F3 that would take me along if they won F3 HoH. I asked you the same type of dumb question when I was the F4 HoH that you had asked me when you were HoH: Would you bring me or Corvis if you won F3 HoH? You couldn't give me a straight answer. You were had, the game is over, get over it.

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09-21-11, 09:50 AM (EST)
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203. "RE: Congratulations Jbug"
"Despite having some loosy ones, Survivor never had bad winners like Adam, Jordan and Rachel to name only a few of the latest. In fact, BB only ever had two good winners: Dan and Will. I'd actually put Maggot and Dyck right behind them!

As for asking about the other F2 evictee, are you Heidi? I considered everyone but the main goal was to have people in the F3 that would take me along if they won F3 HoH. I asked you the same type of dumb question when I was the F4 HoH that you had asked me when you were HoH: Would you bring me or Corvis if you won F3 HoH? You couldn't give me a straight answer. You were had, the game is over, get over it. "

Heidi? Who is Heidi? Is that a Survivor player?

@F2...you assumed I was referring to myself. What if you had kept Kris over Jbug? What if you had chosen Corvis? Corvis turned on his "alliance" of Dear Abby and Suzzee.

Here's some feedback for you, Michel.

I knew you were trying to be slick from the first message you sent in the very beginning of th game. That was week one. I did not have a lot of options and so why not play along till I see what is going on? That's why I tried to get you to be clear in your promises.

Then week 2 you try to *slime* me with the Dear Abby lie. I found that my intuition about you was correct, that you could not be trusted. Yet, Corvis did trust you so I played along as best I could. Week 3 I am HOH and you had to rely on me....and week 4 you backstabbed me to Corvis, which did not work that week but Corvis kept you safe.

So in your mind I "got got" but the truth is I did the best with the hand I had, which is not knowing many of the players when the game started. As I have said before, I did not expect to win.

And once again, I am not upset. You and Jbug keep trying to pin that on me There is a difference in being unhappy with someone's behavior and being upset.

As for whether my question is "dumb" or not, Zenbot made the same suggestion to you in post number 179 below and you did not respond to him the same way. Wonder why.

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09-21-11, 10:47 AM (EST)
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208. "correction "
You and Jbug keep trying to pin that on me

I don't keep trying to pin this on you.
You explained you weren't angry; that I mis-read your posts and intent. I accepted that.
Please accept my apologies for misinterpreting you.


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09-21-11, 11:10 AM (EST)
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