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"2013 Fall TV Season."
I admit this freely and of my own will: I'll be watching Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., at least for the premiere. I want to see what the script is like. How good the actors are. If there's any characters I recognize. How they manage on a TV budget. But mostly, I want to see how long they can keep from falling into the black hole of no-hope crapsack svck which the comics version of the Marvel Universe has become.

I give it a week.

Actually, it's Joss Whedon. I give it the opening credits.

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 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. kidflash212 09-24-13 1
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. dabo 09-24-13 2
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. michel 09-24-13 7
       RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. dabo 09-25-13 14
       RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. samboohoo 09-26-13 23
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. kingfish 09-24-13 3
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. AyaK 09-26-13 28
       RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. kingfish 09-26-13 29
 The Blacklist PagongRatEater 09-24-13 4
   RE: The Blacklist suzzee 09-25-13 15
   RE: The Blacklist KwietOne 09-26-13 25
   RE: The Blacklist bondt007 09-28-13 49
       RE: The Blacklist bondt007 10-22-13 84
   RE: The Blacklist adricharlie 09-28-13 50
   RE: The Blacklist Max Headroom 10-02-13 57
   RE: The Blacklist samboohoo 10-19-13 81
 Moms Molaholic 09-24-13 5
   RE: Moms kingfish 09-24-13 6
   RE: Moms bondt007 10-22-13 83
   RE: Moms kidflash212 11-14-13 97
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. michel 09-24-13 8
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Sagebrush Dan 09-25-13 9
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Ottawa Girl 09-25-13 12
       RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. dabo 09-25-13 16
           RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Ottawa Girl 09-26-13 20
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. bondt007 09-26-13 27
 Person of Interest Season Opener Sagebrush Dan 09-25-13 10
   RE: Person of Interest Season Opene... kingfish 09-25-13 11
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Starshine 09-25-13 13
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. dabo 09-25-13 17
       RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Starshine 09-26-13 19
           RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. kingfish 09-26-13 21
               ... and with a name like Smuthers IceCat 09-26-13 30
                   RE: ... and with a name like Smuthe... PepeLePew13 09-27-13 35
                       RE: ... and with a name like Smuthe... kingfish 09-27-13 36
                           RE: ... and with a name like Smuthe... PepeLePew13 09-27-13 37
           RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. dabo 09-26-13 22
   Week 2 Sagebrush Dan 10-02-13 56
 Back in the Game Sagebrush Dan 09-26-13 18
   RE: Back in the Game samboohoo 09-26-13 24
   RE: Back in the Game samboohoo 10-01-13 52
 Sleepy Hollow KwietOne 09-26-13 26
   RE: Sleepy Hollow CTgirl 10-06-13 65
       RE: Sleepy Hollow KwietOne 10-06-13 66
 The Crazy Ones dabo 09-26-13 31
   RE: The Crazy Ones Estee 09-27-13 39
       RE: The Crazy Ones kingfish 09-27-13 41
   RE: The Crazy Ones Starshine 09-28-13 48
   RE: The Crazy Ones samboohoo 10-01-13 53
 The Michael J Fox Show jbug 09-27-13 32
   RE: The Michael J Fox Show kingfish 09-27-13 33
   RE: The Michael J Fox Show samboohoo 10-01-13 54
   RE: The Michael J Fox Show KwietOne 10-01-13 55
   RE: The Michael J Fox Show Starshine 11-07-13 96
 Breaking Bad PepeLePew13 09-27-13 34
   RE: Breaking Bad KwietOne 09-27-13 40
       RE: Breaking Bad Ottawa Girl 09-27-13 42
           RE: Breaking Bad AyaK 09-27-13 43
               RE: Breaking Bad PepeLePew13 09-27-13 44
                   RE: Breaking Bad Ottawa Girl 09-27-13 45
                   RE: Breaking Bad AyaK 09-27-13 46
                       RE: Breaking Bad AyaK 09-30-13 51
                           Because he's rich and he wants more... Estee 10-09-13 74
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. samboohoo 09-27-13 38
 Masterchef Junior Estee 09-27-13 47
 One bit of comics trivia per episod... Estee 10-02-13 58
   RE: One bit of comics trivia per ep... kingfish 10-02-13 59
       RE: One bit of comics trivia per ep... Estee 10-02-13 60
           RE: One bit of comics trivia per ep... foonermints 10-02-13 61
   RE: One bit of comics trivia per ep... KwietOne 10-06-13 67
   RE: One bit of comics trivia per ep... Estee 10-09-13 70
 Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish. Snidget 10-05-13 62
   RE: Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish. Estee 10-05-13 63
   Sadly enough moonbaby 10-09-13 71
       RE: Sadly enough PagongRatEater 10-09-13 73
           RE: Sadly enough AyaK 10-09-13 75
 First Cancellation Snidget 10-05-13 64
   We Are Men samboohoo 10-10-13 76
       RE: We Are Men Estee 10-10-13 77
       RE: We Are Men dabo 10-10-13 78
 The Goldbergs samboohoo 10-08-13 68
   RE: The Goldbergs samboohoo 10-09-13 72
 Swoop Block! foonermints 10-08-13 69
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Sunny_Bunny 10-12-13 79
   RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. PepeLePew13 10-12-13 80
 RE: 2013 Fall TV Season. Starshine 10-21-13 82
 Not New Shows samboohoo 10-22-13 85
   RE: Not New Shows Starshine 10-22-13 86
 The Blacklist Discussion samboohoo 10-30-13 87
   RE: The Blacklist Discussion adricharlie 10-30-13 88
       RE: The Blacklist Discussion dabo 10-30-13 89
           RE: The Blacklist Discussion adricharlie 10-30-13 90
 Run away! Run away! Estee 10-31-13 91
   RE: Run away! Run away! dabo 10-31-13 92
   Next spinoff, kingfish 11-01-13 93
       RE: Next spinoff, EMTBGRL 11-03-13 94
           RE: Next spinoff, kingfish 11-03-13 95
 Death Of Brian Estee 11-25-13 98
   RE: Death Of Brian foonermints 12-07-13 99
       Swoop! ARnutz 12-07-13 100
           RE: Swoop! foonermints 12-07-13 101
   He's ba-ack Starshine 12-07-13 102
       RE: He's ba-ack foonermints 12-07-13 103
       RE: He's ba-ack Estee 12-07-13 104
 Winter TV season begins. Estee 01-07-14 105
   Intelligence suzzee 01-08-14 106
       Non-Intelligence michel 01-08-14 107
       RE: Intelligence foonermints 01-08-14 108
           RE: Intelligence suzzee 01-09-14 109
           RE: Intelligence Agman2 02-07-14 112
       It's a Chuck redux suzzee 01-10-14 110
 Late night rerun. Estee 02-07-14 111
   RE: Late night rerun. kingfish 02-07-14 113
       RE: Late night rerun. Estee 02-07-14 114
 S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok? Estee 02-07-14 115
   RE: S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok? kidflash212 02-08-14 116
 Michael and Sean gone starshine 02-08-14 117
 Fallon takes over: Colbert wins Estee 02-18-14 118
   RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert win... kingfish 02-18-14 119
       RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert win... Estee 02-18-14 120
           I never watched even one IceCat 02-18-14 121
               RE: I never watched even one kingfish 02-18-14 123
           RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert win... kingfish 02-18-14 122
 What's on? starshine 02-18-14 124
   RE: What's on? kingfish 02-18-14 125
       RE: What's on? Agman2 02-18-14 126
       RE: What's on? AyaK 04-10-14 144
           RE: What's on? kingfish 04-11-14 145
 Believe newsomewayne 03-11-14 127
 CBS Renews .. dabo 03-13-14 128
   RE: CBS Renews .. kidflash212 03-14-14 129
       I Saw foonermints 03-14-14 130
       RE: CBS Renews .. dabo 03-14-14 132
   RE: CBS Renews .. kingfish 03-14-14 131
       RE: CBS Renews .. Agman2 03-14-14 133
       RE: CBS Renews .. dabo 03-14-14 134
       Gasp! starshine 03-16-14 135
 Psych dabo 03-26-14 136
   RE: Psych kingfish 03-27-14 137
 Winding up the starshine starshine 04-01-14 138
 The Late Show With Steven Colbert Estee 04-10-14 139
   RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbe... dabo 04-10-14 140
   RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbe... newsomewayne 04-10-14 141
       RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbe... Estee 04-10-14 142
   ready set over-react! dabo 04-10-14 143
 Two shows kingfish 04-14-14 146
   RE: Two shows dabo 04-15-14 147
       RE: Two shows kingfish 04-15-14 149
       RE: Two shows Estee 04-15-14 152
 Jump the sharklet Estee 04-15-14 148
   RE: Jump the sharklet kingfish 04-15-14 150
       RE: Jump the sharklet Estee 04-15-14 151
 Speaking of Jumping The Shark... kidflash212 04-15-14 153
   RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..... AyaK 04-15-14 155
       RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..... kingfish 04-15-14 156
 Friends With Better Lives kidflash212 04-15-14 154
 Early warning for hurricane season. Estee 04-17-14 157
   RE: Early warning for hurricane sea... kingfish 04-18-14 158
       RE: Early warning for hurricane sea... Estee 04-18-14 159

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1. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I'm going to watch it too. My TV might be very confused as it hasn't been on Channel 7/ABC in years.


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2. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-13 AT 04:55 PM (EST)

If they're willing to spend the money to have some Avengers guest star once in awhile, maybe have Fury show up a couple of times, the show has a built in youth audience. Generation gaps across the country are going to be fighting for the remote with Agents opposite NCIS. I expect they'll move it at some point.

CBS is certainly spending wildly. Janney show on Monday, it was actually kind of lame. Mork and Buffy as lead-ins trying to save 2 and a Joan Men. Mike & Molly in the back-up position Rules previously held. And of course the mother of all seasons for HIMYM, every guest star they can possibly bring back this year. Two half-hours in and they still haven't named the Mother! Oh well.

Refused to watch Hostages.

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7. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I watched Hostages: Not bad...

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14. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
It's the premise of the show that disinterested me, I just didn't care to give it a try. I'm fine with it being not bad, it still isn't anything I want to watch.
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23. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I too watched Hostages. I will continue for now. I liked it okay. Not sure how it can carry on for an entire season, but we'll see.

Also, Dylan McDermott was super HOT, so that alone will keep me watching.


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3. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
A Joss Whedon project? Of Firefly fame? I'll watch.

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28. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Firefly may have been the best TV show ever, but Dollhouse wasn't in the top 50%, so even Joss has a mixed track record.

That said, both of his recent movies (yes, even the super-cheapo Much Ado about Nothing) were really good.

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29. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
A touch of Firefly nostalgia - Ron Glass is part of the cast.

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4. "The Blacklist"
Watched the first episode and it is definitely going on my Tivo list. Yeah, its a little Silence of the Lambs, but Silence of the Lambs was awesome (Hannibal, not so much). James Spader succeeds in being creepy in a way that it not just him riffing on Hopkins too. It has potential, to be sure.


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15. "RE: The Blacklist"
Agree! It was very much Silence of the Lambs and I will be DVR-ing this one. Glad I caught it.


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25. "RE: The Blacklist"
YES! Definite keeper on the DVR.
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49. "RE: The Blacklist"
Finally got to watch it last night and loved it. Don't really see it as Silence of the Lambs, but Spader is terrific!



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84. "RE: The Blacklist"
ahm... STILL good...! (NBC, is it?)



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50. "RE: The Blacklist"
The first episode definitely hooked me.....now I have to watch at least one more to see where this one is going.


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57. "RE: The Blacklist"
Finally watched the pilot episode on the DVR. Can't say I'm hooked, but DW and I thought it was good enough to continue recording.

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81. "RE: The Blacklist"
Just watched Episode 1. Wow! Definitely a keeper.


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5. "Moms"
The cameo by John Cryer should have been a clue. Takes sleaze to a new low. AA abuse, teen sex, and restaurant impossible ripoffs do not make funny. Will not be watching another.

(Speaking of John Cryer -- the previews for the new season of Two and a Half Men are looking to put this one time favorite on the NO WATCH list as well. Seems to be a case of one season too many.)

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6. "RE: Moms"
You're just having a grumpy day.

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83. "RE: Moms"
Little late to this party - I just watched tonight.


Now I'm leaving the party.


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97. "RE: Moms"
I'm really late to this party. Worst show I've seen in a long time. And I watched a few minutes of Sean Saves The World. Being worse than that takes some doing.
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8. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I'll be watching "Crazy".
Not much else interests me. I forgot about the Blacklist and I'm not too sure yet about Hostages.
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9. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I tried to watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I gave up after a few cliche'd minutes. I also tried The Goldbergs. That lasted about a minute and a half. I went to do other stuff, but forgot to turn the TV off. Sweetie walked into the TV room, and it wasn't long before I heard, "What is this crap?"
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12. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I too tried to watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and gave up after 7 minutes (I have a low threshold). Was thinking of giving The Goldbergs a try but missed it. Glad I did. Not sure what else to try in the Fall lineup.
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16. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
http://www.tvguide.com/special/fall-preview/fall-schedule.aspx

Betrayal
We Are Men
Mom
Hostages
Sleepy Hollow
The Blacklist
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The Goldbergs
Trophy Wife
Lucky 7
The Originals
Dads
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Back in the Game
Super Fun Night
The Tomorrow People
Ironside
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland
The Millers
The Crazy Ones
Reign
Welcome to the Family
Sean Saves the World
The Michael J. Fox Show
Masterchef Junior
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20. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Thank you. Wow, that is a lot to take in.

Watched the Michael J. Fox Show yesterday. Not sure yet, but did laugh unexpectedly a few times. Esp. loved the rolling chair scene.

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27. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
It's too bad about S.H.I.E.L.D. - I finally caught it yesterday. Really bad.



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10. "Person of Interest Season Opener"
Gack! Lame! Same old same old. I hope it gets better.
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11. "RE: Person of Interest Season Opener"
Hey Dan, s'up?

I liked the Agents of Shield. For a person unfamiliar with the other versions and unknowing of the basic premise (that's me) it was a bit murky, something about good gods fighting bad gods, and we never get to see either. I think.

But Clark Gregg was entertaining in his role, and a long time crush Colby Smuthers (the only reason I used to occasionally watch HIMYM) was there. The Fitz-Simmons duo was entertaining and funny. The writing successfully (IMO) walked the fine line between snarky funny and over the top smaltz.

I'd like to see (and understand) more in the way of their world setting, but I trust Joss Whedon to deliver. I'm a big fan of his because of Firefly, the best dam TV show that there ever was.

So, I like it, and it’s on my DVR list. Which usually is the kiss of death for a show.


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13. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Mom, I really liked Grace under fire, this ain't that

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. I really enjoyed it

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17. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Agents has possibilities if they give it time to develop. Right now it seems like Agent Coulson and the usual crew of characters in shows like these.
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19. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I suspect that it is going to be Agent Coulson and co (with a bit of background on the characters and why Coulson isn't dead) for the first 10 episodes or so and then may progress from there.

I like the two science geeks, although with them both being Brits I'm not sure what the Homeland in S.H.I.E.L.D. means, and not being that media savvy i haven't seen their like before. The old wise guru, the mentally scarred veteran, the manly man with hidden depths, and the maverick computer expert do seem a little cliched though

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21. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
As long as Colby Smuthers keeps showing up in that skin tight suit, I'll be there.

It is a little disconcerting to see one of the comic leads from "the Old Christine" (or whatever that was), a tired horse of a show with a tired horse of a leading lady, showing up as Agent Coulson and in a different personna. His comic timing does show.

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30. "... and with a name like Smuthers"

... she has to be good.
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35. "RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
It's actually Cobie Smulders - more sensual, less dirty. She's a Canadian from the Vancouver area.
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36. "RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
Oops! I don't know who I insulted more, Survivor's Colby or Cobie S.

But it is Cobie to whom I wish to apologize.

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37. "RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
Heh, I'm sure she's used to it with her Dutch surname Smulders, there's so many ways for a high schooler to twist the name into something 'interesting'.
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22. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
By "usual crew" I meant in the generic sense, here we have our standard collection of experts/specialists a la the Impossible Missions Force or Alphas or Leverage or Warehouse 13. They did have some character development in the pilot ep., about as much as they could do in the first chapter.

I actually didn't care for Fitz and Simmons, but not because of them being British. It just seems like it is the same character occupying two bodies. But they may develop into distinct personalities, that remains to be seen.

As for Coulson being alive, there are some theories about that I've seen; but it is a dangling carrot, I won't be surprised if they just let it keep dangling.

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56. "Week 2"
GIven all the love here for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I decided to give it another shot. I watched the whole show. Maybe it will get better in time, but I still didn't like it. I'll catch it at a later date.


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18. "Back in the Game"
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Much funnier than expected. Predictable, but the actors made it work. I've rarely laughed out loud at a pilot, but I did here.
And, maybe America is ready for a gay tween.

ETA: Gay tween. Okay, I forgot about Ugly Betty

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24. "RE: Back in the Game"
I have it on my DVR. Excited to watch everything this weekend.


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52. "RE: Back in the Game"
So far, so good for me. I will keep it. Loved, "You didn't hit it."


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26. "Sleepy Hollow"
Liked, but I can't watch this show at night. Haha I read John Noble (from Fringe) is making an appearance.
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65. "RE: Sleepy Hollow"
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I've watched the first two episdoes so far. Not sure I'll be able to fit another show like this in once Grimm returns but I might keep watching just for the actor who plays Ichabod Crane!

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66. "RE: Sleepy Hollow"
Good news - it's been picked up for the 2014/15 season.
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31. "The Crazy Ones"
Wow. Amidst all the sex/alcohol/drugs-central sitcoms, an intelligently written humanity-focused comedy, thematic and stuff. Love it, expect to enjoy it through maybe November when it will be canned for sweeps. Seriously, it is too smart for America, expect it to be gone by November.

Meanwhile on Thursday night CBS has Big Bang (still okay though getting old), The Millers (yet to premiere and seems typical nonsense), and 2 1/2 Men (on its last gasp, extended to prove they could survive Sheen and now Angus).

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39. "RE: The Crazy Ones"
With The Crazy Ones... given the leads and a prime timeslot, I personally think it can hang on for its full first season and possibly get renewed -- or would if not for one issue. It's a David E. Kelley production. So it's not so much that I'm waiting for it to die as I'm patiently hanging on to see how long it takes before I actively wish for it.

The estrogen bit on BBT just annoyed me. Personally, I'm waiting on the inevitable pregnancy. (Bernadette. Who else?) As for 2.5 Rating Share... Charlie's back! Only now he's a 25-year-old lesbian who happens to be his own daughter!

Good luck with that.

Although I sense they did just pick up Kingfish.

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41. "RE: The Crazy Ones"
It's in a PG time slot.

But the DVR is primed.


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48. "RE: The Crazy Ones"
Didn't work for me, the entire show centered on Robin Williams mugging for the camera, and I just didn't find it amusing.

Williams aside the plot could have been written on the back of an old fag packet and just looked flabby and lazy, the writers seem to have thought "Leave it to Robin, he was great in Mork and Mindy", but not realised that was 30 years ago now.

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53. "RE: The Crazy Ones"
Not sure. Just watched yesterday. I will give it another week.


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32. "The Michael J Fox Show"
For very obvious reasons, DH & I have been awaiting this one.

Did anyone watch?

If part of the purpose is to garner awareness of Parkinson's Disease, I hope they figure out a way to let the public know that PD affects those who have it in many different ways.
For example, DH's 'walk' doesn't look like MJF. MJF walked more bow-legged or something. Also, he didn't have any episodes of "freezing" which if his meds keep that away, good for him!

Also DH doesn't move his head all around like MJF was doing. That looked really strange! That may be part of his normal expressive movement (like some people use their hands to talk?) and it is magnified by the PD.
The lack of blinking (if you noticed that) is shared by almost every PD patient.

The story line was odd - or should I say the lack of a story line. But maybe as the show progresses, it will make more sense. I think they were establishing the "set" so to speak.

We'll continue to watch; if only to understand more ourselves.

And, ....
If any of you have a few $$ and need to make a charitable contribution?
MJF
or
The National Parkinson's Disease Foundation

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33. "RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
OK. I'll watch.

I enjoyed the Back to the Future movies, the first two at least.

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54. "RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
I liked it, but I love him.

Also like that Tracy was the neighbor.


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55. "RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
Checked this out on "on-demand". It was decent and funny. I liked that "crush" Mike had with his upstairs neighbor.
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96. "RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
I have to admit that after the first couple of episodes I really wasn't sure about the show, a sitcom about Parkinson's just really wasn't working for me, however in the past couple of weeks it has evolved into a sitcom where the main character happens to have Parkinson's and I am thoroughly enjoying it now.

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34. "Breaking Bad"
Yes I know it's not a new show nor is it starting this fall, but the series finale is coming up on Sunday and it's the fall, so...

Anyone else watching this show? It's the greatest show on TV, and I'm going to really miss having this show on. It's already become an iconic show that will be remembered for years to come.

Completely unpredictable, nobody really has a good idea of what will be happening in the finale other than there will be plenty of mayhem and the lives of families being turned upside down.

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40. "RE: Breaking Bad"
-raises hand-

Yup, been watching it from day one. AMC has been airing episodes from the pilot continuously to now.

I stopped thinking about what might happen - it's driving me nuts.

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42. "RE: Breaking Bad"
Raises hand ... fanatic about this show. Excited for the finale and sad that it is ending, but what a ride.
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43. "RE: Breaking Bad"
The part that got me about the penultimate episode was that the ending was so totally unexpected. Sure we know that Walter White missed his chance to be a billionaire with Gray Matter, and that it was built off of his research, but that's always been in the background as a reason why he thought he deserved the empire that he built, which now lies in ruins.

What I doubt anybody but Vince Gilligan (the showrunner/creator) remembered in the destruction of this season (both parts) is that we'd never been told what the "personal reasons" were that caused him to walk away from Gretchen, his research, Gray Matter and his "kids' birthright." I think we're finally going to find out in the scarred remnant of Walter's life.

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44. "RE: Breaking Bad"
Indeed. What I particularly love about this show is pretty much every i is dotted and every t is crossed by the end of the show, almost nothing is left hanging as a throw-away piece. There's a reason behind every single thing we've seen since Episode 1.

By contrast, I was quite frustrated with LOST in particular because there were so many loose ends and more questions being raised than answers in the final seasons, it just became so convoluted. With 'Breaking Bad', it's completely engrossing right to the end, and we know there's going to be a resolution to many storylines on Sunday.

I've been fascinated with the storyline of Walter White going from meek chem teacher to Heisenberg while also showing glimpses of the old Walt from time to time (it's still being debated if that was Heisenberg or if that was ol' Walt on that phone call with Skyler with DEA listening in), and likewise, have been interested in the Jesse storyline with his struggle between compassion and the meth way of life.

Agreed, that Gray Matter thing at the very end of the most recent episode was out of left field, and it was great, keeping the story moving quickly after a bit of a lull with the bits about setting up his life in New Hampshire.

I look forward to the wrap-up including the "Hello, Carol" moment again.

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45. "RE: Breaking Bad"
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Agree they are good at tying up loose ends. Love it. Looking forward to where they will take us.

Never been disappointed with this show but noticed 2 things that were amiss from its usual pristine editing/filming/writing. During the shootout they clearly showed Walt loosing his glasses but at the beginning of the next epi, same shootout and Walt's glasses were intact. Loved the scene with creepy Ricky Hitler in baby Holly's room, but since when are there sliding doors in her room? Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Am I just too obssessed? Maybe.

Still think Lost should have ended a whole season earlier. I would have been less disappointed with the ending being the whiteout -- let us imagine what we will. I know nobody agrees with me but I was sooo disappointed after obsessing over this show for so long.

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46. "RE: Breaking Bad"
I've tried to stay out of the online debates on this show, because I think it's clear that Walt/Heisenberg comes straight out of Robert Louis Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, where Stevenson was actually making the point that Hyde was an essential part of making Jekyll who he was. Thus, a living Walter White is always Heisenberg in part. There isn't a duality. When Walter White is trying to disassociate himself from Heisenberg, he's like Jekyll without Hyde -- weak, lost and dying (as he was in "Granite State"). But he won't be that way in the finale.

(And could I add that I loved the use of Heisenberg, who was most famous for uncertainty theory, as Walt's nom de guerre?)

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51. "RE: Breaking Bad"
Huh. The only thing that we DIDN'T find out in the finale was what caused Walt to walk away from Gray Matter.

I can't tell you all how much I loved that the only two popular songs in the finale were Marty Robbins' "El Paso", at the opening of the episode, where the protagonist goes back to meet his death (and where, as was widely speculated, the "Felina" name for the finale came from), and Badfinger's "Baby Blue", at the very end, which just happens to be one of my all-time favorite rock songs.

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74. "Because he's rich and he wants more episodes."
Some people can't take 'The End' for an answer.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/89315/jeffrey-katzenberg-offered-75-million-for-three-more-breaking-bad-episodes

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38. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
I have a whole list of shows to watch this weekend. I am usually in bed by 9 - sometimes a little earlier these days Sunday - Thursday. I Tivo almost everything and watch it on Friday/Saturdays. That way I can flip through without commercials. I try to make exceptions for football and baseball if it's a good game.

The only new shows I've seen are The Goldbergs and Hostages. I wasn't impressed with The Goldbergs. I'm negotiating with myself on Hostages, though Dylan McDermott makes a strong case to stick it out.

I'm just happy to have my regular shows back this week like Parenthood, Modern Family, Criminal Minds, Blue Bloods, CSI and The Good Wife. And Parenthood gets a full season. Even better.


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47. "Masterchef Junior"
Kidchen Nation
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58. "One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
One of the main handicaps I've noticed the S.H.I.E.L.D. writers working under is that they're trying to establish their universe in a very big hurry. It's not just 'We trust you've seen the movies', it's scrambling to explain how things are outside them -- to the point where it's hard to avoid that sensation of infodump.

However, they're managing to squeeze the in-jokes through the script. So far, I've spotted Extremis (advanced techno-retrovirus), "Journey into mystery" (one of the oldest comics titles associated with Marvel at all, Thor's debut spot) and "Flight 616" (the code number for the timeline we know as the comics-published Marvel). I'm sure I've missed a dozen others.

Not exactly a reason to continue watching in and of itself, but the series hasn't pushed me out so far. Having Samuel L. Jackson show up last night didn't hurt.

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59. "RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
I missed the in-jokes.

I missed Samuel Jackson (he was there? are we talking about the same episode, with the chase thru the Peruvian jungle from the Mayan pyramid (???) to their plane?).

(I did watch it, however, and was watching and comparing to Firefly. Which, oddly and in a different universe, it resembles.

It misses the boat there, doesn't have the humanistic approach or (IMO) the cast talent (no Kylie - sad), although what they have isn't dreadful.

Somewhat formulaic too, for an action adventure, one crisis solved immediately followed by another, and another, ad infinitum.

I am somewhat disappointed after the second episode, but not pushed out yet either.

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60. "RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Yes, Director Fury showed up during what normally would have been the credits, if any network show still had full credits. He was chewing Coulson out over the financial cost of repairing the plane. A little reminder that this team still has someone above them, and that someone is not happy about the team's composition either. Also, no fish tanks were to be installed during the fix. Too bad. Imagine the TLC crossover.

I'm giving them a little more time because I assume they're trying to build up towards something. Possibly involving Tahiti. Which, as we keep hearing, is a magical place.

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61. "RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Except for the tourist-hating Tahitians and the French atomic bomb tests.

ribbet!

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67. "RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
This show is on the bubble for me. The team doesn't seem to "click".
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70. "RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
This week's bit: Franklin Hall is the real name of the mainline supervillain known as Graviton. So I think we can make a pretty safe bet as to what's going to happen if/when he ever gets out of that thing. Looks like they're trying to establish that the team may wind up dealing with more powered opponents -- and the mainline version is about as nasty as they come. Incredibly arrogant, extremely psychotic, and -- his weakness -- almost impossibly unimaginative.

Bring on the bad guys.

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62. "Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish."
what

I am NOT making this up!


http://www.diynetwork.com/vanilla-ice-goes-amish/show/index.html?soc=vanillaice_20131002_12468434

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63. "RE: Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish."
Vanilla Ice is in the Tyson Zone. Just about the only thing you could say about him which people might doubt on first hearing is 'He got tired of media attention and went away'.
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71. "Sadly enough"
I feel the need to watch an episode of that.

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73. "RE: Sadly enough"
It is on my DVR list. I find the Amish fascinating.
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75. "RE: Sadly enough"
I agree about the Amish, but I agree with Estee about Vanilla Ice. The sooner he fades away, the better.
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64. "First Cancellation"
http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/10/04/fall-tv-first-casualty-lucky-7-video/

ABC Cancels Lucky 7.

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76. "We Are Men"
We are done. I watched the first episode and wasn't impressed.

Poor Jerry. I really liked his lawyer show last year.


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77. "RE: We Are Men"
We are done.

So is CBS. How much do you think the DVD set with Never-Before-Seen Episodes will cost?

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78. "RE: We Are Men"
Shameful waste of a lot of good talent.
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68. "The Goldbergs"
I wasn't sure about Episode 1. I loved Episode 2.


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72. "RE: The Goldbergs"
Loved Episode 3 as well. A keeper for me.


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69. "Swoop Block!"
Not-A-Swoop
due to:
"tourist-hating Tahitians and the French atomic bomb tests".

Oh! and the "ribbet"!

Can't forget the ribbet..

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79. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
LAST EDITED ON 10-12-13 AT 08:41 AM (EST)

For those who watched Once Upon a Time and liked it, the idea of spinning Wonderland into a new web of hookah smoke probably appealed to you, or at least convinced you to give this new show a shot. It's a spin off ... but not really because Wonderland was unaffected by the Evil Queen’s curse. However, the manly sidekick Knave of Hearts ended up in Storybook with the Mad Hatter because they both fled Wonderland and Cora, the Queen of Hearts. Because of this, the first scene involves Knave almost getting run over by Emma's VW on Main Street and passing Cinderella and Grumpy at Granny’s before being taken out of Storybrooke through the portal power of the White Rabbit. A total toss-away scene so viewers know these two unconnected shows are mildly connected.

This is followed by back story involving a father who sends his daughter off to the insane asylum because she keeps “disappearing” for long periods of time and yammering on about a love interest named Cyrus. She’s now old enough to leave, but her doctor wants to do a lobotomy so she can forget her pain, her name, and a horrible costume. Fortunately the Knave of Hearts and the White Rabbit show up to rescue her and take her back to Wonderland.

Once there, more back story. The Geni from Aladdin is no Robin Williams, but the hunky true love of Alice. A Regina/Rumple style power play brews stagnates between the Red Queen and Jafar, followed by a creepy cat, an equally creepy caterpillar, a blackmailed white rabbit, a wanted outlaw knave of hearts, a flying carpet without any personality, and the quest for Alice to find her true love before Iago or the Aflak duck shows up. Oh, and to keep Jafar from getting his hands on her three wishes. At least, that appears to be the premise from the pilot.

If you watch OUAT and you have seen Hook and wondered where his hair went, it flew off of his head and landed on Jafar. But Jafar is still a great villain who knows how to act and use his snake scepter. The Red Queen, however, is a different story. If she is supposed to be threatening, intimidating, and a bad-azz, she isn't because you are too busy watching her impossibly inflated botoxed lips combine with perpetual duck face to notice. She tries to be mean, and all you can think about is how she can possibly deliver her lines through those swollen lips. You get past the lips, and you suddenly realize that she can’t ACT. And this plastic blowup doll is supposed to intimidate and keep Jafar in line? I don’t think so. It’s rather plain to see that someone knew someone who begged someone to use his girlfriend in the show. However, this being the Once universe, perhaps they can come up with a queen to rip out her heart and usurp power from duckface before they are cancelled.

I didn’t like it. I have found that I’m not alone. If they don’t figure out that special effects can’t cover up the bad acting it won’t last very long.


Quickie sidenote; everyone seems to be able to find portals in and out of Storybrooke/the Enchanted Forest/Neverland/Wonderland etc. EXCEPT the actual citizens of the town.

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80. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Speaking of portals... here's a magic one!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/07/once-upon-promo-blunder-snow-whites-magic-crotch/

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82. "RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Heck yes: The Blacklist

Yes: Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., Witches of East End, Sean Saves the World

If I remember: The Michael J Fox show

No: Super Fun Night, Mom, The Tomorrow People

What the %^*$ were they thinking?: Sabrina Secrets of a Teenage Witch

Lovely cheese Mooney

Where are Voice of the Beehive when we need them?


Plus Elementary, Arrow, TAR, Survivor, etc.

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85. "Not New Shows"
Big Bang has been funnier this year. I loved the scavenger hunt episode.

Happy Parenthood is a full season.

The Good Wife. I am one week behind, but I am loving the shake-up this year. Always loved Will & Diane together, so this was somewhat unexpected and quite a pleasant surprise.


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86. "RE: Not New Shows"
I was thinking about Big Bang the other day when I realised that this was series 7 (and hasn't it been a fun ride!) I used to lvoe Fiends but with the best will in the world it had really lost steam by half way through the fourth series there were moments afterwards (and I own every episode on Video and DVD) but it just wasn't GREAT.

Big Bang has a few duff episodes however this season has been fantastic so far, lvoed the Sheldon "you hurt my feelings" bit in ep1.

Lovely cheese Mooney

Where are Voice of the Beehive when we need them?

The Ross and Rachel thing did annoy me in way that Penny and Leonard don't

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87. "The Blacklist Discussion"
Starshine and I are talking about this in the Other Non-Reality Shows forum. Need more voices.


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88. "RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
Where is that forum at? I can't seem to find it



Courtesy of Tribe....

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89. "RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
http://community.realitytvworld.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rtvw2/community/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID45&conf=DCConfID24

Other Nonreality Forum

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90. "RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
Thank you....


Courtesy of Tribe....

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91. "Run away! Run away!"
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/91219/how-i-met-your-father
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92. "RE: Run away! Run away!"
Never has the word "gang" been less menacing.

Honestly, though, I can't see HIMYM fans being that eager to follow another gang through another version of "the story." After nine years of giving out, that well has dried up.

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93. "Next spinoff,"

"How I stuck my head in the oven and turned on the gas".
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94. "RE: Next spinoff,"
kingfish is funny. bwahahahaha!
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95. "RE: Next spinoff,"
Where you been?

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98. "Death Of Brian"
Best guess: someone in the head FOX offices finally noticed they had a character who was an actual liberal intellectual elitist and sent the memo.

*shrug* Don't care.

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99. "RE: Death Of Brian"
Hey! I bet there's at least some who would care about this!

aaannd BOINK!

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100. "Swoop!"
Shocked about Brian and Clay!!!


I *lurk* in lurkerdom waiting to SWOOP!

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101. "RE: Swoop!"
Got enough nuts for the Winter by now?

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102. "He's ba-ack"
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/05/family-guy-brian-return/

Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, appalling, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, the writers should be shot, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, worst-episode-ever, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible episode of MLP:FIM today

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103. "RE: He's ba-ack"
Not like Star Trek bad, but Germicho bad?


"Brian" is a terrible name for a dog.

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104. "RE: He's ba-ack"
Take it to Ponythread or watch the confusion of the natives.

I am -- behind. Completely. I haven't seen one S4 episode: still don't have the Hub and my system has been in a slap fight with YouTube, so that's why I haven't commented on anything new. Which means for now, I just get to live in light dread.

Dare I ask who wrote it?

-- right. To Ponythread.

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105. "Winter TV season begins."
Just to mention: I saw a small part of that Rachael Vs. Guy Vs. Something Else Must Be On latest celebrity cooking challenge edition and have good news to report: despite the best efforts of the genre to par back, we once again have a class of 'celebrity' whose only purpose is to appear on reality shows. Check out this lineup.

Judy Gold
Florence Henderson
Penn Jillette
Chris Kattan
Jake Pavelka
Tiffany
Vanilla Ice
Herschel Walker

Well, Penn's just there to amuse himself, but the rest... how many series between them, exactly?

Incidentally, Jake never mentioned Famous Food. One presumes the lawsuits are ongoing.

He also got his shirt off within the first hour. One presumes he knows what's keeping him on the air.

Chris Kattan? Still annoying. And probably hasn't learned to play poker yet.

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106. "Intelligence "
All is not Lost...

Sawyer Josh Holloway with a chip in his head rather than on his shoulder. They had me at Josh Holloway anyway.

tv.com says"Intelligence isn't a bad show, in fact, it's exactly the kind of entertainment that CBS has made a fortune on: Good guys knocking the turbans off of bad guys, basically. And if we look at Intelligence from that angle, it's exactly as expected and a perfectly fine way to spend an hour of time in front of the television. It has the star we all want to see in Holloway, it has babes for all ages in Meghan Ory and Marg Helgenberger, it has fancy computer graphics and techy mumbo-jumbo to assist high-stakes operations, and most importantly, it has Holloway punching and shooting bad guys."

While I'm having a Lost moment...

Sayed Naveen Andrews popped up on Once Upon a Time in Wonderland speaking in his native English accent. I'm not much for the show but he's attired all medieval and that English accent is enough for me while I gaze at the frozen wasteland outside.



Corrupting teenage boys since, well,
none of your business how long...

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107. "Non-Intelligence "
"They could have built a robot but made it human instead..." Those humans certainly weren't the actors: Most robotic acting performance I've seen. It got even worse when we learned that Holloway's new girl killed her abusive stepfather.
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108. "RE: Intelligence "
*watches Suzzee*
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109. "RE: Intelligence "
Stalkermints



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112. "RE: Intelligence "
*watches Suzzee*Suzzee's siggie

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110. "It's a Chuck redux "
A guy with the internet in his head protected by a hot government agent. Deja vu. I liked Chuck better, his nerd heard was more entertaining.


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111. "Late night rerun."
I am not saying any kind of goodbye to Jay Leno because:

1. It would be more of a 'That's enough: get out.'

2. I refuse to believe he's actually leaving.

Remember: we've done this before.

He is Really Caucasian Randy Jackson. Years after making anyone believe he was actually contributing, rumors of firing and replacements and pictures of his being shoved out the door -- none of it matters, because please welcome our new Tonight Show Mentor!

We won't be fooled again...

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113. "RE: Late night rerun."
Foolishly, I will hold out hope, not that it makes much difference, they are (supposedly) replacing him with Fallon. Not an improvement. Not anything. An nonentity filled dead hour.

He's (Leno) is just not funny or original anymore. One might argue that he used to be funny (sort of) but he has never been original. Only props I can give him are that his old car shows are entertaining.

Letterman is a once was, but ain't nomore. He's stale and should retire.

Ferguson stinks. How has he lasted?

Kimmel and Conan are the only ones with real comedy and (esp Conan) originality.

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114. "RE: Late night rerun."
I once called Leno the lowest common denominator of comedy. Still applies, but I'll add this: he's the guy you put on a NASCAR track with the best vehicle and funding available because you've convinced yourself he can win the race -- and then he spends the entire race season at a top speed of 30 mph, occasionally risking 31, with his left turn signal on the whole time.

Kimmel and Conan are the ones in that group willing to take risks. Leno's idea of a major gamble is opening a small-town supermarket newspaper.

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115. "S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok?"
Talk about slow builds... Gosh, how else can we possibly torture this character? Shall we kill his son? Because we're going to kill his son. It's a Josh Whedon show. Don't make any long-term investments based on your next paycheck. There won't be one.

As for shooting Skye -- see above. Only in her case, It's All Part Of The Plan.

For our new cyborg, it's just all part of the standard issue Whedon torture.

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116. "RE: S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok?"
I think the son will keep breathing for awhile - that much more pain to inflict.
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117. "Michael and Sean gone"
It says here

Love Sean Hayes, but the show was a) far too clichéd, and b) not at all funny

Love Michael J Fox, when the show started it was a sitcom about Parkinsons and wasn't funny, however it had evolved into a clichéd family sitcom, and I thought quite a good one, not going to set the world on fire but a pleasant way of wasting 22 minutes. Sad to see it go.



One of my other claims to fame is that I actually met Michael J Fox once in Venice airport just before Back to the Future came out. I was on a cruise with my parents and had chummed up with some Americans and when they went across to say how much they enjoyed him in Family ??? I went with them.

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118. "Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
"Welcome to eleven-thirty, bitch!"

Weak opening monologue and it felt like the network had ordered him to make Olympic jokes. Bad Olympic jokes. And he also knows there's a backup plan: the host -- for now...

But he had ten thousand pennies dumped on him, so there's that.

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119. "RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
LAST EDITED ON 02-18-14 AT 09:54 AM (EST)

I do not get Fallon. I mean, good for him, he has an epic gig anf presumably epic money, but his comedy? Meh.

Bits he doesn't steal, or aren't obvious to a blind person, he ruins by going way over the top. He might be OK if he were either funny or original, but he isn't either.

I understand he had some high profile guests. The network seems to be convinced that he needs help, and I suspect that that help didn't come cheap. Normally guests on these shows are paid the minimum fee, they need the exposure or to plug their acts. This time? I wonder.



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120. "RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
The sequence I saw through Mediaite had a number of A-Listers -- for about fifteen seconds each. Stay tuned for the Colbert bit at the end.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fallon-taps-rolodex-for-massive-cameo-filled-segment-featuring-everyone-from-lady-gaga-to-colbert/

Getting some high-end talent in order to lure in first-time viewers during a launch week is normal for just about any talk show: Fallon is being done no favor which wouldn't be offered by another network, although the others would have worked with a higher budget.

As for your opinion of his skills -- I can't agree just because I haven't seen enough of him to judge. But with Leno, NBC went with comedy's lowest common denominator. And it wouldn't surprise me to see those shoes filled by the soggiest socks available.

I'll give him a chance. But the bar is set about two millimeters above the ground.

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121. "I never watched even one"

... episode of the Tonight Show with Leno hosting.

I've never watched Fallon either so I'll guess I'll continue to avoid the Tonight Show.

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123. "RE: I never watched even one"
I watched back in the Carson days. Not much since.
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122. "RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
I watched his bits on SNL. They were sometimes mildly amusing, but never really amused me. And his Late Show gig. Every bit I saw that he did on that show I had seen other's do. Admittedly. I stopped watching early on.

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124. "What's on?"
Well at the moment I am watching

My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic
Arrow
The Blacklist
Castle - Which may lose me if it keeps getting sillier every week
Community
Elementary
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Masterchef Canadia - Poutine for all!
Death in Paradise (KQEH in San Francisco, WGBX in New England)
Parks and Recreation occasionally

Any recommendations?

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125. "RE: What's on?"
“Last Man Standing” has some pretty sharp comedy. It is a sit-com, but Tim Allen is a solid performer, and Nancy Travis is still very watchable and comedic as are the actresses that play his kids, one of which, Kaitlyn Dever as Eve, shows different (but exceptional) acting chops on "Justified". There is also Hector Elizondo as Ed, normally a serious actor but showing exceptional comedic talents on this show.

I also recommend highly the aforementioned "Justified", with Timothy Oliphant and based on a Leonard Elmore story. This is (for me) a must record show., and is along the lines of "Deadwood" in intensity, and also starred Oliphant.

If you haven’t been following “Justified”, and liked “Deadwood”, you should try it out. And even think about ordering previous seasons (3 I think) of “Justified”.

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126. "RE: What's on?"
Justified is an excellent show!
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144. "RE: What's on?"
>I also recommend highly the aforementioned
>"Justified", with Timothy Oliphant and
>based on a Leonard Elmore story.

Did Leonard Elmore know Elmore Leonard, who wrote "Fire in the Hole", the story on which Justified is based?

Both the show's writers and the late Mr. Leonard had fun with the interrelation of the show and the novels.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/08/elmore_leonard_rips_off_justified/

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145. "RE: What's on?"
Very interesting article, especially to a fan of Mr Elmore. Or Mr Leonard. Still haven't got that straight.

(Smartass!)

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127. "Believe"
Watched the pilot last night. Interesting concept.

Static duo with revolving supporting characters and locations, so anything is possible. Mystery and intrigue behind the good guys and the bad guys. Inevitible sappiness coming between the leads from the revelation of the unknown relationship. Lots of "Highway to Heaven", but with magic instead of religion, with a possibility of mixing in Heroes.

Not terribly original, but not stale, either. Plus, I like watching and listening to Delroy Lindo. He reminds me of Professor Badass.

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128. "CBS Renews .."
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2014/03/ncis-the-good-wife-two-and-a-half-men-and-15-other-shows-picked-up-by-cbs.html

.. most of its lineup.

"The Big Bang Theory" and "Survivor."
"Blue Bloods," "CSI," "Criminal Minds," "Elementary," "The Good Wife," "Hawaii Five-0," "NCIS," "NCIS: Los Angeles" and "Person of Interest."
"2 Broke Girls," "Mike & Molly," "The Millers," "Mom" and "Two and a Half Men."
"The Amazing Race" and "Undercover Boss"
"60 Minutes" and "48 Hours."

"The Mentalist," "The Crazy Ones," "Hostages" and "Intelligence" have not yet received word on their futures.

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129. "RE: CBS Renews .."
Didn't know "Undercover Boss" was still on. And CBS is still beating the dead horse that is "Two and a Half Men"?

I am glad TAR will be back, with any luck without The Cowboys, the Globetrotters and Brendan & Rachel.

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130. "I Saw"
Hells Kitchen scream it's way back last night. Eh.
In non-reality I was initially intrigued by Resurrection.
After the premiere, not so much. One last try though..


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132. "RE: CBS Renews .."
Boss occupies a Friday night dead zone. As for what keeps it on the air, each hour is essentially a commercial-of-the-week.

No idea what keeps Men going, the couple of times I watched it this year were horrible.

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131. "RE: CBS Renews .."
Most of the sit-coms could be dropped, IMO.

I still like BBT.

I started off liking 2 Broke Girls, but their jokes have become too predictable and really not very funny, and some of the regulars just aren't funny either. The blond in particular (Beth something) tries too hard and is just not a comic talent, but Jennifer Coolidge (great talent normally, and who can be seriously hilarious in other roles) is ridiculous on that show, and the polish cook is just stupid. I like Garret Morris (mainly out of nostalgia) and Kat Dennings is great.

And Two and a Half Men back again? Really? Seriously?

And Undercover Boss? How long will it be before people catch on that that new guy with the camera crew could be their boss? I mean, this is shown on national TV, surely someone will catch on. And the repeated teary scenarios get old. Bleah.

I still watch the Tim Allen show, Tim has honed his comic chops and it shows, he’s great. They have great (the best, IMO) writing, as well as superior acting and comic talent. Even bland old Nancy Travis holds up her end admirably. Even the fringe characters are fun. Just a show worth watching.

But aside from that show and BBT, please, just wipe the sit-com board and start over.

I am in awe of the monumentally great job that Johnny Miller does in pulling off the Sherlock Holmes character, and of the deft adaptation that the creators did bringing that story to contemporary life in New York. And especially of turning Lucy Liu into Watson. The stuffy pipe smoking English gentleman that Conan Doyle created was perfect for London, but would not translate to 2014 New York. Brilliant. Great show.

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133. "RE: CBS Renews .."
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this is shown on national
TV, surely someone will catch
on.

Unfortunately, this is the very reason nobody seems to "catch on." They know if they give a sob story and suck up, they will probably get called to the reveal and get some money!



Alarmingly masterful tribal creation


*I wonder what the best sob story could be in order to get the most cash?

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134. "RE: CBS Renews .."
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-14 AT 02:58 PM (EST)

Pretty much agree about sitcoms. BBT is on again off again this year, still worthwhile, and HIMYM's finale had better be worth the wait. Tim Allen's show is okay, I find it hit and miss. "Neighbors" is wonderfully off-beat, and "Crazy Ones" is pretty smart.

Mom is pretty horribly written stuff being carried by two stellar talents giving it everything they've got (and one stellar talent being wasted in a minor role).

ETA: Oh yeah, "The Middle" and "Modern Family" are alright if nothing else is on.

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135. "Gasp!"
But, how could you write off Community? Still fantastically written and brilliantly acted.

Six seasons and a movie

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136. "Psych"
And so long to a show I really didn't care that much about but was an okay time-waster. DW liked it.
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137. "RE: Psych"
They could occasionally decently pull off a silly silly silly premise.

The female police detective was entertaining, and Corbin Bernson (sp?) did make a great curmudgeon dad.

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138. "Winding up the starshine"
I know it happens most years, however it seems to me that this year has been particularly bad for interruptions, the Skye & Fitzsimmonds show seems to be on a completely random schedule, and as for TBBT who knows which weeks it will be on? Is it any wonder series fail when the last episode was so long ago you need the full Biggest Loser reprise to remind you what the heck is going on.

However I think we have a winner. Series 2 of Perception (I watch it for the Levar Burton)... It was 14 episodes long Season premiere June 25, 2013, Season finale March 18, 2014. Nine months for fourteen epidodes, dashed silly if you ask me.

Oh and by the way if you take a six month gap between episodes (I'm looking at you Eureka and Warehouse 13) then it isn't a "continuation" it's a new series.

Grrrr

honorary mention series four of Warehouse 13, 20 episodes, first one broadcast July 23, 2012, last one July 8, 2013. Dashed ridiculous.

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139. "The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
I'm not joking. CBS just announced him as Letterman's replacement.

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140. "RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
Dang, I was hoping for Maddow.
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141. "RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
You think CBS knows that on his current show he's a persona?
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142. "RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
A certain percentage of his CC viewers haven't figured it out...

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143. "ready set over-react!"
limbaugh
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/rush-limbaugh-stephen-colbert-assault_n_5127182.html

"CBS has just declared war on the heartland of America," Limbaugh fumed.

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146. "Two shows"
1. Bletchley Park. Understated dialog, almost somnolent, and unflashy to the max. Very authentic characters and a very authentic seeming early 50's setting. So very British.

What sets this show apart is the premise, four ladies that had been part of the famous and brilliant top secret British code breaking team at Bletchley Park, ten years later after having had resumed their roles as housewives and low level professionals (secretaries etc.), now almost accidently getting involved in solving crimes. What an intelligent premise. The only problem that I can see for the writers (aside from keeping the audience awake) is coming up with plots worthy of these ladies. Slow, plodding, typically British, and brilliant.

2. Those That kill. Chloë Sevigny. This show has to be seen to be believed, he lead actor (Chloe Sevigny) is just unreal. Great supporting cast, great writing, great in just about every category, but Chloe is just amazing.

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147. "RE: Two shows"
translating

it's Bletchley Circle

and

Those Who Kill

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149. "RE: Two shows"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-14 AT 11:22 AM (EST)

Thanks, duly noted. Or is it dually knotted?

Anyway, Bletchley is such an English name. No false pizazz there. Could have come right from the mind of JK Rowling (Or is it Rollering?).

I am the worst self-editor. According to Estee, I am also pretty bad at self-restraint.

(Have resisted the urge to edit my previous post, and make you look like an idiot. You owe me).

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152. "RE: Two shows"
So TWK got moved to the Lifetime Movie Network? Makes sense, I guess... every victim is female, every bad guy is male and at some point, a main character will fall in love with a priest.
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148. "Jump the sharklet"
So last night on 2 Broke Girls, Lindsay Lohan guest-starred as a bride who kept changing her mind about absolutely everything, every five seconds or so, resulting in an episode where our intrepid heroines delivered a cake mostly made of Radio Shack styrofoam and Max had to walk down the aisle under a veil to get married under false pretenses, otherwise they wouldn't get paid for the inedible cake.

Seems legit.

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150. "RE: Jump the sharklet"
I think that episode was an allegorical reflection of Lohan's life. If so, at least it worked on that level.

It's frustrating to me to watch the blond attempt to deliver jokes. I hope she can sing or juggle or do ventriloquism or something. Comedy isn’t her thing.

Denning is the only bright spot in an otherwise badly utilized cast. And she’s turning into a predictable one trick pony.

Agree on the jumped the shark comment.

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151. "RE: Jump the sharklet"
Disagree on Beth Behrs: I find her to be a decent actress and a surprisingly-gifted physical comedienne who has no visible hesitation about literally throwing herself into the jokes.

(I checked to make sure I had her last name spelled correctly and the search engine delivered her height: 5'5" -- the same as Kat Dennings. Dear gawds, what kind of heels is Wardrobe sticking her in every week?)

But it very much feels as if the writers are running out of ideas. The show always had a few farcical elements waiting to come out whenever you took your eyes off them, but this episode threw the last shreds of reality out the window.

I'd like to blame Lohan Exposure, but it's been a trend for a while now. *shrug* So it goes -- into next season, because this has already been renewed. Possibly for the last time.

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153. "Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
I hadn't watched Saturday Night Live in many years. I knew the quality had to have slipped but for some reason decided to watch this past weekend.

What a load of crap. Just terrible. How is this show still on the air?

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155. "RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
You know, I tried to watch last week's episode (for the first time all year) too. I gave up during one of the worst Weekend Updates since Charles Rocket.
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156. "RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
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I watched a DVD recording. It's obviously better if you are able to FF through the worst parts. Agree about the Weekend updates, stinkaroo. A generally weak cast with only a few bright spots.

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154. "Friends With Better Lives"
Watched the first episode and thought there might be some potential. Watched again last night, all sex jokes and a hamburger having an orgasm. James has matured into a fine looking man but not enough to keep me watching this drivel.
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157. "Early warning for hurricane season."
I won't go into full spoilers here (and put the complete list up in the relevant forum), but I felt this bit had to be posted in double view. I just got a complete, confirmed, verified, the-pictures-tell-the-tale cast list for Donald Trump's next orgy of self-promotion.

So.

Kate Gosselin.

This would be where I said *click*, but Donald couldn't get my viewership back without direct cash payment anyway.

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04-18-14, 08:57 AM (EST)
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158. "RE: Early warning for hurricane season."
Actually, that is so Trump of him.

Please, please, let him also get Palin. I'm still not gonna watch, but then I might contribute in the RTVW threads. Which hopefully will have been shuffled to the bottom of the "Other SHows" forum.

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Estee 56444 desperate attention whore postings
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04-18-14, 09:48 AM (EST)
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159. "RE: Early warning for hurricane season."
Their egos wouldn't fit in the same building. I'm surprised they can occupy one reality without making it explode. It may only be possible because they don't exist in the same one as the rest of us.

(On a seemingly unrelated note, Bill O'Reilly recently said that (his estimate) 20m Americans using marijuana proves he has to take care of us, apparently by thinking and legislating for everyone. So. How many Americans are members of the Tea Party?)

So no post turtles, but he went through his usual trick of casting the female side for fights. The man is extremely predictable. And boring. And hopefully not getting into the NFL. Ever.

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