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"2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Estee on 09-24-13 at 01:09 PM
I admit this freely and of my own will: I'll be watching Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., at least for the premiere. I want to see what the script is like. How good the actors are. If there's any characters I recognize. How they manage on a TV budget. But mostly, I want to see how long they can keep from falling into the black hole of no-hope crapsack svck which the comics version of the Marvel Universe has become.

I give it a week.

Actually, it's Joss Whedon. I give it the opening credits.

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"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by kidflash212 on 09-24-13 at 01:21 PM
I'm going to watch it too. My TV might be very confused as it hasn't been on Channel 7/ABC in years.


Capn2patch put me in motion!

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by dabo on 09-24-13 at 02:39 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-24-13 AT 04:55 PM (EST)

If they're willing to spend the money to have some Avengers guest star once in awhile, maybe have Fury show up a couple of times, the show has a built in youth audience. Generation gaps across the country are going to be fighting for the remote with Agents opposite NCIS. I expect they'll move it at some point.

CBS is certainly spending wildly. Janney show on Monday, it was actually kind of lame. Mork and Buffy as lead-ins trying to save 2 and a Joan Men. Mike & Molly in the back-up position Rules previously held. And of course the mother of all seasons for HIMYM, every guest star they can possibly bring back this year. Two half-hours in and they still haven't named the Mother! Oh well.

Refused to watch Hostages.

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by michel on 09-24-13 at 09:17 PM
I watched Hostages: Not bad...

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by dabo on 09-25-13 at 02:57 PM
It's the premise of the show that disinterested me, I just didn't care to give it a try. I'm fine with it being not bad, it still isn't anything I want to watch.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by samboohoo on 09-26-13 at 01:47 PM
I too watched Hostages. I will continue for now. I liked it okay. Not sure how it can carry on for an entire season, but we'll see.

Also, Dylan McDermott was super HOT, so that alone will keep me watching.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by kingfish on 09-24-13 at 02:43 PM
A Joss Whedon project? Of Firefly fame? I'll watch.

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by AyaK on 09-26-13 at 07:16 PM
Firefly may have been the best TV show ever, but Dollhouse wasn't in the top 50%, so even Joss has a mixed track record.

That said, both of his recent movies (yes, even the super-cheapo Much Ado about Nothing) were really good.

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by kingfish on 09-26-13 at 08:10 PM
A touch of Firefly nostalgia - Ron Glass is part of the cast.

"The Blacklist"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 09-24-13 at 06:21 PM
Watched the first episode and it is definitely going on my Tivo list. Yeah, its a little Silence of the Lambs, but Silence of the Lambs was awesome (Hannibal, not so much). James Spader succeeds in being creepy in a way that it not just him riffing on Hopkins too. It has potential, to be sure.


"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by suzzee on 09-25-13 at 03:18 PM
Agree! It was very much Silence of the Lambs and I will be DVR-ing this one. Glad I caught it.


I should be watched....closely.

"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by KwietOne on 09-26-13 at 05:25 PM
YES! Definite keeper on the DVR.
"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by bondt007 on 09-28-13 at 10:57 AM
Finally got to watch it last night and loved it. Don't really see it as Silence of the Lambs, but Spader is terrific!



>Issued by "Q" and RollDdice

"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by bondt007 on 10-22-13 at 00:20 AM
ahm... STILL good...! (NBC, is it?)



>Issued by "Q" and RollDdice

"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by adricharlie on 09-28-13 at 12:19 PM
The first episode definitely hooked me.....now I have to watch at least one more to see where this one is going.


Courtesy of Tribe....

"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by Max Headroom on 10-02-13 at 01:24 PM
Finally watched the pilot episode on the DVR. Can't say I'm hooked, but DW and I thought it was good enough to continue recording.

"RE: The Blacklist"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-19-13 at 10:20 PM
Just watched Episode 1. Wow! Definitely a keeper.


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"Moms"
Posted by Molaholic on 09-24-13 at 08:05 PM
The cameo by John Cryer should have been a clue. Takes sleaze to a new low. AA abuse, teen sex, and restaurant impossible ripoffs do not make funny. Will not be watching another.

(Speaking of John Cryer -- the previews for the new season of Two and a Half Men are looking to put this one time favorite on the NO WATCH list as well. Seems to be a case of one season too many.)

Mucho lurve to tribe 2012

"RE: Moms"
Posted by kingfish on 09-24-13 at 08:24 PM
You're just having a grumpy day.

"RE: Moms"
Posted by bondt007 on 10-22-13 at 00:19 AM
Little late to this party - I just watched tonight.


Now I'm leaving the party.


>Issued by "Q" and RollDdice

"RE: Moms"
Posted by kidflash212 on 11-14-13 at 01:17 PM
I'm really late to this party. Worst show I've seen in a long time. And I watched a few minutes of Sean Saves The World. Being worse than that takes some doing.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by michel on 09-24-13 at 09:20 PM
I'll be watching "Crazy".
Not much else interests me. I forgot about the Blacklist and I'm not too sure yet about Hostages.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Sagebrush Dan on 09-25-13 at 01:16 AM
I tried to watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I gave up after a few cliche'd minutes. I also tried The Goldbergs. That lasted about a minute and a half. I went to do other stuff, but forgot to turn the TV off. Sweetie walked into the TV room, and it wasn't long before I heard, "What is this crap?"
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Ottawa Girl on 09-25-13 at 08:42 AM
I too tried to watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and gave up after 7 minutes (I have a low threshold). Was thinking of giving The Goldbergs a try but missed it. Glad I did. Not sure what else to try in the Fall lineup.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by dabo on 09-25-13 at 09:51 PM
http://www.tvguide.com/special/fall-preview/fall-schedule.aspx

Betrayal
We Are Men
Mom
Hostages
Sleepy Hollow
The Blacklist
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The Goldbergs
Trophy Wife
Lucky 7
The Originals
Dads
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Back in the Game
Super Fun Night
The Tomorrow People
Ironside
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland
The Millers
The Crazy Ones
Reign
Welcome to the Family
Sean Saves the World
The Michael J. Fox Show
Masterchef Junior
Dracula

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Ottawa Girl on 09-26-13 at 09:24 AM
Thank you. Wow, that is a lot to take in.

Watched the Michael J. Fox Show yesterday. Not sure yet, but did laugh unexpectedly a few times. Esp. loved the rolling chair scene.

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by bondt007 on 09-26-13 at 06:07 PM
It's too bad about S.H.I.E.L.D. - I finally caught it yesterday. Really bad.



>Issued by "Q" and RollDdice

"Person of Interest Season Opener"
Posted by Sagebrush Dan on 09-25-13 at 02:05 AM
Gack! Lame! Same old same old. I hope it gets better.
"RE: Person of Interest Season Opener"
Posted by kingfish on 09-25-13 at 08:17 AM
Hey Dan, s'up?

I liked the Agents of Shield. For a person unfamiliar with the other versions and unknowing of the basic premise (that's me) it was a bit murky, something about good gods fighting bad gods, and we never get to see either. I think.

But Clark Gregg was entertaining in his role, and a long time crush Colby Smuthers (the only reason I used to occasionally watch HIMYM) was there. The Fitz-Simmons duo was entertaining and funny. The writing successfully (IMO) walked the fine line between snarky funny and over the top smaltz.

I'd like to see (and understand) more in the way of their world setting, but I trust Joss Whedon to deliver. I'm a big fan of his because of Firefly, the best dam TV show that there ever was.

So, I like it, and it’s on my DVR list. Which usually is the kiss of death for a show.


shhhhh! I stole this from Tribe and I ain't gonna give it back.


"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Starshine on 09-25-13 at 02:02 PM
Mom, I really liked Grace under fire, this ain't that

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. I really enjoyed it

Lovely cheese Mooney

Where are Voice of the Beehive when we need them?


"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by dabo on 09-25-13 at 09:56 PM
Agents has possibilities if they give it time to develop. Right now it seems like Agent Coulson and the usual crew of characters in shows like these.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Starshine on 09-26-13 at 03:17 AM
I suspect that it is going to be Agent Coulson and co (with a bit of background on the characters and why Coulson isn't dead) for the first 10 episodes or so and then may progress from there.

I like the two science geeks, although with them both being Brits I'm not sure what the Homeland in S.H.I.E.L.D. means, and not being that media savvy i haven't seen their like before. The old wise guru, the mentally scarred veteran, the manly man with hidden depths, and the maverick computer expert do seem a little cliched though

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by kingfish on 09-26-13 at 10:11 AM
As long as Colby Smuthers keeps showing up in that skin tight suit, I'll be there.

It is a little disconcerting to see one of the comic leads from "the Old Christine" (or whatever that was), a tired horse of a show with a tired horse of a leading lady, showing up as Agent Coulson and in a different personna. His comic timing does show.

"... and with a name like Smuthers"
Posted by IceCat on 09-26-13 at 11:15 PM

... she has to be good.
"RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 09-27-13 at 12:21 PM
It's actually Cobie Smulders - more sensual, less dirty. She's a Canadian from the Vancouver area.
"RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
Posted by kingfish on 09-27-13 at 01:16 PM
Oops! I don't know who I insulted more, Survivor's Colby or Cobie S.

But it is Cobie to whom I wish to apologize.

"RE: ... and with a name like Smuthers"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 09-27-13 at 01:24 PM
Heh, I'm sure she's used to it with her Dutch surname Smulders, there's so many ways for a high schooler to twist the name into something 'interesting'.
"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by dabo on 09-26-13 at 11:29 AM
By "usual crew" I meant in the generic sense, here we have our standard collection of experts/specialists a la the Impossible Missions Force or Alphas or Leverage or Warehouse 13. They did have some character development in the pilot ep., about as much as they could do in the first chapter.

I actually didn't care for Fitz and Simmons, but not because of them being British. It just seems like it is the same character occupying two bodies. But they may develop into distinct personalities, that remains to be seen.

As for Coulson being alive, there are some theories about that I've seen; but it is a dangling carrot, I won't be surprised if they just let it keep dangling.

"Week 2"
Posted by Sagebrush Dan on 10-02-13 at 02:14 AM
GIven all the love here for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., I decided to give it another shot. I watched the whole show. Maybe it will get better in time, but I still didn't like it. I'll catch it at a later date.


Phylled by Tribe

"Back in the Game"
Posted by Sagebrush Dan on 09-26-13 at 00:05 AM
LAST EDITED ON 09-26-13 AT 00:06 AM (EST)

Much funnier than expected. Predictable, but the actors made it work. I've rarely laughed out loud at a pilot, but I did here.
And, maybe America is ready for a gay tween.

ETA: Gay tween. Okay, I forgot about Ugly Betty

"RE: Back in the Game"
Posted by samboohoo on 09-26-13 at 01:48 PM
I have it on my DVR. Excited to watch everything this weekend.


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"RE: Back in the Game"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-01-13 at 01:09 PM
So far, so good for me. I will keep it. Loved, "You didn't hit it."


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"Sleepy Hollow"
Posted by KwietOne on 09-26-13 at 05:26 PM
Liked, but I can't watch this show at night. Haha I read John Noble (from Fringe) is making an appearance.
"RE: Sleepy Hollow"
Posted by CTgirl on 10-06-13 at 02:53 PM
LAST EDITED ON 10-06-13 AT 02:53 PM (EST)

I've watched the first two episdoes so far. Not sure I'll be able to fit another show like this in once Grimm returns but I might keep watching just for the actor who plays Ichabod Crane!

"RE: Sleepy Hollow"
Posted by KwietOne on 10-06-13 at 07:33 PM
Good news - it's been picked up for the 2014/15 season.
"The Crazy Ones"
Posted by dabo on 09-26-13 at 11:58 PM
Wow. Amidst all the sex/alcohol/drugs-central sitcoms, an intelligently written humanity-focused comedy, thematic and stuff. Love it, expect to enjoy it through maybe November when it will be canned for sweeps. Seriously, it is too smart for America, expect it to be gone by November.

Meanwhile on Thursday night CBS has Big Bang (still okay though getting old), The Millers (yet to premiere and seems typical nonsense), and 2 1/2 Men (on its last gasp, extended to prove they could survive Sheen and now Angus).

"RE: The Crazy Ones"
Posted by Estee on 09-27-13 at 02:02 PM
With The Crazy Ones... given the leads and a prime timeslot, I personally think it can hang on for its full first season and possibly get renewed -- or would if not for one issue. It's a David E. Kelley production. So it's not so much that I'm waiting for it to die as I'm patiently hanging on to see how long it takes before I actively wish for it.

The estrogen bit on BBT just annoyed me. Personally, I'm waiting on the inevitable pregnancy. (Bernadette. Who else?) As for 2.5 Rating Share... Charlie's back! Only now he's a 25-year-old lesbian who happens to be his own daughter!

Good luck with that.

Although I sense they did just pick up Kingfish.

"RE: The Crazy Ones"
Posted by kingfish on 09-27-13 at 02:37 PM
It's in a PG time slot.

But the DVR is primed.


"RE: The Crazy Ones"
Posted by Starshine on 09-28-13 at 10:19 AM
Didn't work for me, the entire show centered on Robin Williams mugging for the camera, and I just didn't find it amusing.

Williams aside the plot could have been written on the back of an old fag packet and just looked flabby and lazy, the writers seem to have thought "Leave it to Robin, he was great in Mork and Mindy", but not realised that was 30 years ago now.

"RE: The Crazy Ones"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-01-13 at 01:10 PM
Not sure. Just watched yesterday. I will give it another week.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"The Michael J Fox Show"
Posted by jbug on 09-27-13 at 11:25 AM
For very obvious reasons, DH & I have been awaiting this one.

Did anyone watch?

If part of the purpose is to garner awareness of Parkinson's Disease, I hope they figure out a way to let the public know that PD affects those who have it in many different ways.
For example, DH's 'walk' doesn't look like MJF. MJF walked more bow-legged or something. Also, he didn't have any episodes of "freezing" which if his meds keep that away, good for him!

Also DH doesn't move his head all around like MJF was doing. That looked really strange! That may be part of his normal expressive movement (like some people use their hands to talk?) and it is magnified by the PD.
The lack of blinking (if you noticed that) is shared by almost every PD patient.

The story line was odd - or should I say the lack of a story line. But maybe as the show progresses, it will make more sense. I think they were establishing the "set" so to speak.

We'll continue to watch; if only to understand more ourselves.

And, ....
If any of you have a few $$ and need to make a charitable contribution?
MJF
or
The National Parkinson's Disease Foundation

"RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
Posted by kingfish on 09-27-13 at 12:10 PM
OK. I'll watch.

I enjoyed the Back to the Future movies, the first two at least.

"RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-01-13 at 01:10 PM
I liked it, but I love him.

Also like that Tracy was the neighbor.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
Posted by KwietOne on 10-01-13 at 03:55 PM
Checked this out on "on-demand". It was decent and funny. I liked that "crush" Mike had with his upstairs neighbor.
"RE: The Michael J Fox Show"
Posted by Starshine on 11-07-13 at 10:57 AM
I have to admit that after the first couple of episodes I really wasn't sure about the show, a sitcom about Parkinson's just really wasn't working for me, however in the past couple of weeks it has evolved into a sitcom where the main character happens to have Parkinson's and I am thoroughly enjoying it now.

"Breaking Bad"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 09-27-13 at 12:16 PM
Yes I know it's not a new show nor is it starting this fall, but the series finale is coming up on Sunday and it's the fall, so...

Anyone else watching this show? It's the greatest show on TV, and I'm going to really miss having this show on. It's already become an iconic show that will be remembered for years to come.

Completely unpredictable, nobody really has a good idea of what will be happening in the finale other than there will be plenty of mayhem and the lives of families being turned upside down.

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by KwietOne on 09-27-13 at 02:27 PM
-raises hand-

Yup, been watching it from day one. AMC has been airing episodes from the pilot continuously to now.

I stopped thinking about what might happen - it's driving me nuts.

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by Ottawa Girl on 09-27-13 at 02:59 PM
Raises hand ... fanatic about this show. Excited for the finale and sad that it is ending, but what a ride.
"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by AyaK on 09-27-13 at 03:11 PM
The part that got me about the penultimate episode was that the ending was so totally unexpected. Sure we know that Walter White missed his chance to be a billionaire with Gray Matter, and that it was built off of his research, but that's always been in the background as a reason why he thought he deserved the empire that he built, which now lies in ruins.

What I doubt anybody but Vince Gilligan (the showrunner/creator) remembered in the destruction of this season (both parts) is that we'd never been told what the "personal reasons" were that caused him to walk away from Gretchen, his research, Gray Matter and his "kids' birthright." I think we're finally going to find out in the scarred remnant of Walter's life.

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 09-27-13 at 04:55 PM
Indeed. What I particularly love about this show is pretty much every i is dotted and every t is crossed by the end of the show, almost nothing is left hanging as a throw-away piece. There's a reason behind every single thing we've seen since Episode 1.

By contrast, I was quite frustrated with LOST in particular because there were so many loose ends and more questions being raised than answers in the final seasons, it just became so convoluted. With 'Breaking Bad', it's completely engrossing right to the end, and we know there's going to be a resolution to many storylines on Sunday.

I've been fascinated with the storyline of Walter White going from meek chem teacher to Heisenberg while also showing glimpses of the old Walt from time to time (it's still being debated if that was Heisenberg or if that was ol' Walt on that phone call with Skyler with DEA listening in), and likewise, have been interested in the Jesse storyline with his struggle between compassion and the meth way of life.

Agreed, that Gray Matter thing at the very end of the most recent episode was out of left field, and it was great, keeping the story moving quickly after a bit of a lull with the bits about setting up his life in New Hampshire.

I look forward to the wrap-up including the "Hello, Carol" moment again.

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by Ottawa Girl on 09-27-13 at 06:59 PM
LAST EDITED ON 09-27-13 AT 08:43 PM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 09-27-13 AT 07:04 PM (EST)

Agree they are good at tying up loose ends. Love it. Looking forward to where they will take us.

Never been disappointed with this show but noticed 2 things that were amiss from its usual pristine editing/filming/writing. During the shootout they clearly showed Walt loosing his glasses but at the beginning of the next epi, same shootout and Walt's glasses were intact. Loved the scene with creepy Ricky Hitler in baby Holly's room, but since when are there sliding doors in her room? Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Am I just too obssessed? Maybe.

Still think Lost should have ended a whole season earlier. I would have been less disappointed with the ending being the whiteout -- let us imagine what we will. I know nobody agrees with me but I was sooo disappointed after obsessing over this show for so long.

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by AyaK on 09-27-13 at 07:04 PM
I've tried to stay out of the online debates on this show, because I think it's clear that Walt/Heisenberg comes straight out of Robert Louis Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, where Stevenson was actually making the point that Hyde was an essential part of making Jekyll who he was. Thus, a living Walter White is always Heisenberg in part. There isn't a duality. When Walter White is trying to disassociate himself from Heisenberg, he's like Jekyll without Hyde -- weak, lost and dying (as he was in "Granite State"). But he won't be that way in the finale.

(And could I add that I loved the use of Heisenberg, who was most famous for uncertainty theory, as Walt's nom de guerre?)

"RE: Breaking Bad"
Posted by AyaK on 09-30-13 at 03:10 PM
Huh. The only thing that we DIDN'T find out in the finale was what caused Walt to walk away from Gray Matter.

I can't tell you all how much I loved that the only two popular songs in the finale were Marty Robbins' "El Paso", at the opening of the episode, where the protagonist goes back to meet his death (and where, as was widely speculated, the "Felina" name for the finale came from), and Badfinger's "Baby Blue", at the very end, which just happens to be one of my all-time favorite rock songs.

"Because he's rich and he wants more episodes."
Posted by Estee on 10-09-13 at 04:44 PM
Some people can't take 'The End' for an answer.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/89315/jeffrey-katzenberg-offered-75-million-for-three-more-breaking-bad-episodes

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by samboohoo on 09-27-13 at 01:53 PM
I have a whole list of shows to watch this weekend. I am usually in bed by 9 - sometimes a little earlier these days Sunday - Thursday. I Tivo almost everything and watch it on Friday/Saturdays. That way I can flip through without commercials. I try to make exceptions for football and baseball if it's a good game.

The only new shows I've seen are The Goldbergs and Hostages. I wasn't impressed with The Goldbergs. I'm negotiating with myself on Hostages, though Dylan McDermott makes a strong case to stick it out.

I'm just happy to have my regular shows back this week like Parenthood, Modern Family, Criminal Minds, Blue Bloods, CSI and The Good Wife. And Parenthood gets a full season. Even better.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"Masterchef Junior"
Posted by Estee on 09-27-13 at 09:19 PM
Kidchen Nation
"One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by Estee on 10-02-13 at 01:35 PM
One of the main handicaps I've noticed the S.H.I.E.L.D. writers working under is that they're trying to establish their universe in a very big hurry. It's not just 'We trust you've seen the movies', it's scrambling to explain how things are outside them -- to the point where it's hard to avoid that sensation of infodump.

However, they're managing to squeeze the in-jokes through the script. So far, I've spotted Extremis (advanced techno-retrovirus), "Journey into mystery" (one of the oldest comics titles associated with Marvel at all, Thor's debut spot) and "Flight 616" (the code number for the timeline we know as the comics-published Marvel). I'm sure I've missed a dozen others.

Not exactly a reason to continue watching in and of itself, but the series hasn't pushed me out so far. Having Samuel L. Jackson show up last night didn't hurt.

"RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by kingfish on 10-02-13 at 05:25 PM
I missed the in-jokes.

I missed Samuel Jackson (he was there? are we talking about the same episode, with the chase thru the Peruvian jungle from the Mayan pyramid (???) to their plane?).

(I did watch it, however, and was watching and comparing to Firefly. Which, oddly and in a different universe, it resembles.

It misses the boat there, doesn't have the humanistic approach or (IMO) the cast talent (no Kylie - sad), although what they have isn't dreadful.

Somewhat formulaic too, for an action adventure, one crisis solved immediately followed by another, and another, ad infinitum.

I am somewhat disappointed after the second episode, but not pushed out yet either.

"RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by Estee on 10-02-13 at 06:12 PM
Yes, Director Fury showed up during what normally would have been the credits, if any network show still had full credits. He was chewing Coulson out over the financial cost of repairing the plane. A little reminder that this team still has someone above them, and that someone is not happy about the team's composition either. Also, no fish tanks were to be installed during the fix. Too bad. Imagine the TLC crossover.

I'm giving them a little more time because I assume they're trying to build up towards something. Possibly involving Tahiti. Which, as we keep hearing, is a magical place.

"RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by foonermints on 10-02-13 at 07:10 PM
Except for the tourist-hating Tahitians and the French atomic bomb tests.

ribbet!

"RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by KwietOne on 10-06-13 at 07:35 PM
This show is on the bubble for me. The team doesn't seem to "click".
"RE: One bit of comics trivia per episode or your money back."
Posted by Estee on 10-09-13 at 10:49 AM
This week's bit: Franklin Hall is the real name of the mainline supervillain known as Graviton. So I think we can make a pretty safe bet as to what's going to happen if/when he ever gets out of that thing. Looks like they're trying to establish that the team may wind up dealing with more powered opponents -- and the mainline version is about as nasty as they come. Incredibly arrogant, extremely psychotic, and -- his weakness -- almost impossibly unimaginative.

Bring on the bad guys.

"Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish."
Posted by Snidget on 10-05-13 at 09:42 AM
what

I am NOT making this up!


http://www.diynetwork.com/vanilla-ice-goes-amish/show/index.html?soc=vanillaice_20131002_12468434

"RE: Vanilla.Ice.Goes.Amish."
Posted by Estee on 10-05-13 at 10:44 AM
Vanilla Ice is in the Tyson Zone. Just about the only thing you could say about him which people might doubt on first hearing is 'He got tired of media attention and went away'.
"Sadly enough"
Posted by moonbaby on 10-09-13 at 11:47 AM
I feel the need to watch an episode of that.

"RE: Sadly enough"
Posted by PagongRatEater on 10-09-13 at 03:37 PM
It is on my DVR list. I find the Amish fascinating.
"RE: Sadly enough"
Posted by AyaK on 10-09-13 at 07:17 PM
I agree about the Amish, but I agree with Estee about Vanilla Ice. The sooner he fades away, the better.
"First Cancellation"
Posted by Snidget on 10-05-13 at 09:22 PM
http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/10/04/fall-tv-first-casualty-lucky-7-video/

ABC Cancels Lucky 7.

"We Are Men"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-10-13 at 10:00 AM
We are done. I watched the first episode and wasn't impressed.

Poor Jerry. I really liked his lawyer show last year.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: We Are Men"
Posted by Estee on 10-10-13 at 11:10 AM
We are done.

So is CBS. How much do you think the DVD set with Never-Before-Seen Episodes will cost?

"RE: We Are Men"
Posted by dabo on 10-10-13 at 01:11 PM
Shameful waste of a lot of good talent.
"The Goldbergs"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-08-13 at 02:56 PM
I wasn't sure about Episode 1. I loved Episode 2.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: The Goldbergs"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-09-13 at 03:33 PM
Loved Episode 3 as well. A keeper for me.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"Swoop Block!"
Posted by foonermints on 10-08-13 at 03:42 PM
Not-A-Swoop
due to:
"tourist-hating Tahitians and the French atomic bomb tests".

Oh! and the "ribbet"!

Can't forget the ribbet..

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Sunny_Bunny on 10-12-13 at 03:03 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-12-13 AT 08:41 AM (EST)

For those who watched Once Upon a Time and liked it, the idea of spinning Wonderland into a new web of hookah smoke probably appealed to you, or at least convinced you to give this new show a shot. It's a spin off ... but not really because Wonderland was unaffected by the Evil Queen’s curse. However, the manly sidekick Knave of Hearts ended up in Storybook with the Mad Hatter because they both fled Wonderland and Cora, the Queen of Hearts. Because of this, the first scene involves Knave almost getting run over by Emma's VW on Main Street and passing Cinderella and Grumpy at Granny’s before being taken out of Storybrooke through the portal power of the White Rabbit. A total toss-away scene so viewers know these two unconnected shows are mildly connected.

This is followed by back story involving a father who sends his daughter off to the insane asylum because she keeps “disappearing” for long periods of time and yammering on about a love interest named Cyrus. She’s now old enough to leave, but her doctor wants to do a lobotomy so she can forget her pain, her name, and a horrible costume. Fortunately the Knave of Hearts and the White Rabbit show up to rescue her and take her back to Wonderland.

Once there, more back story. The Geni from Aladdin is no Robin Williams, but the hunky true love of Alice. A Regina/Rumple style power play brews stagnates between the Red Queen and Jafar, followed by a creepy cat, an equally creepy caterpillar, a blackmailed white rabbit, a wanted outlaw knave of hearts, a flying carpet without any personality, and the quest for Alice to find her true love before Iago or the Aflak duck shows up. Oh, and to keep Jafar from getting his hands on her three wishes. At least, that appears to be the premise from the pilot.

If you watch OUAT and you have seen Hook and wondered where his hair went, it flew off of his head and landed on Jafar. But Jafar is still a great villain who knows how to act and use his snake scepter. The Red Queen, however, is a different story. If she is supposed to be threatening, intimidating, and a bad-azz, she isn't because you are too busy watching her impossibly inflated botoxed lips combine with perpetual duck face to notice. She tries to be mean, and all you can think about is how she can possibly deliver her lines through those swollen lips. You get past the lips, and you suddenly realize that she can’t ACT. And this plastic blowup doll is supposed to intimidate and keep Jafar in line? I don’t think so. It’s rather plain to see that someone knew someone who begged someone to use his girlfriend in the show. However, this being the Once universe, perhaps they can come up with a queen to rip out her heart and usurp power from duckface before they are cancelled.

I didn’t like it. I have found that I’m not alone. If they don’t figure out that special effects can’t cover up the bad acting it won’t last very long.


Quickie sidenote; everyone seems to be able to find portals in and out of Storybrooke/the Enchanted Forest/Neverland/Wonderland etc. EXCEPT the actual citizens of the town.

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 10-12-13 at 04:22 AM
Speaking of portals... here's a magic one!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/07/once-upon-promo-blunder-snow-whites-magic-crotch/

"RE: 2013 Fall TV Season."
Posted by Starshine on 10-21-13 at 05:47 PM
Heck yes: The Blacklist

Yes: Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., Witches of East End, Sean Saves the World

If I remember: The Michael J Fox show

No: Super Fun Night, Mom, The Tomorrow People

What the %^*$ were they thinking?: Sabrina Secrets of a Teenage Witch

Lovely cheese Mooney

Where are Voice of the Beehive when we need them?


Plus Elementary, Arrow, TAR, Survivor, etc.

"Not New Shows"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-22-13 at 09:38 AM
Big Bang has been funnier this year. I loved the scavenger hunt episode.

Happy Parenthood is a full season.

The Good Wife. I am one week behind, but I am loving the shake-up this year. Always loved Will & Diane together, so this was somewhat unexpected and quite a pleasant surprise.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: Not New Shows"
Posted by Starshine on 10-22-13 at 10:46 AM
I was thinking about Big Bang the other day when I realised that this was series 7 (and hasn't it been a fun ride!) I used to lvoe Fiends but with the best will in the world it had really lost steam by half way through the fourth series there were moments afterwards (and I own every episode on Video and DVD) but it just wasn't GREAT.

Big Bang has a few duff episodes however this season has been fantastic so far, lvoed the Sheldon "you hurt my feelings" bit in ep1.

Lovely cheese Mooney

Where are Voice of the Beehive when we need them?

The Ross and Rachel thing did annoy me in way that Penny and Leonard don't

"The Blacklist Discussion"
Posted by samboohoo on 10-30-13 at 01:41 PM
Starshine and I are talking about this in the Other Non-Reality Shows forum. Need more voices.


Samboobree, brought to life by Arkie


"RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
Posted by adricharlie on 10-30-13 at 07:50 PM
Where is that forum at? I can't seem to find it



Courtesy of Tribe....

"RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
Posted by dabo on 10-30-13 at 07:54 PM
http://community.realitytvworld.com/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/rtvw2/community/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID45&conf=DCConfID24

Other Nonreality Forum

"RE: The Blacklist Discussion"
Posted by adricharlie on 10-30-13 at 09:10 PM
Thank you....


Courtesy of Tribe....

"Run away! Run away!"
Posted by Estee on 10-31-13 at 12:32 PM
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/91219/how-i-met-your-father
"RE: Run away! Run away!"
Posted by dabo on 10-31-13 at 06:27 PM
Never has the word "gang" been less menacing.

Honestly, though, I can't see HIMYM fans being that eager to follow another gang through another version of "the story." After nine years of giving out, that well has dried up.

"Next spinoff,"
Posted by kingfish on 11-01-13 at 08:23 AM

"How I stuck my head in the oven and turned on the gas".
"RE: Next spinoff,"
Posted by EMTBGRL on 11-03-13 at 12:47 PM
kingfish is funny. bwahahahaha!
"RE: Next spinoff,"
Posted by kingfish on 11-03-13 at 06:18 PM
Where you been?

"Death Of Brian"
Posted by Estee on 11-25-13 at 06:10 PM
Best guess: someone in the head FOX offices finally noticed they had a character who was an actual liberal intellectual elitist and sent the memo.

*shrug* Don't care.

"RE: Death Of Brian"
Posted by foonermints on 12-07-13 at 12:50 PM
Hey! I bet there's at least some who would care about this!

aaannd BOINK!

"Swoop!"
Posted by ARnutz on 12-07-13 at 01:45 PM
Shocked about Brian and Clay!!!


I *lurk* in lurkerdom waiting to SWOOP!

"RE: Swoop!"
Posted by foonermints on 12-07-13 at 02:36 PM
Got enough nuts for the Winter by now?

"He's ba-ack"
Posted by Starshine on 12-07-13 at 07:00 PM
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/05/family-guy-brian-return/

Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, appalling, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, the writers should be shot, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, worst-episode-ever, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible episode of MLP:FIM today

"RE: He's ba-ack"
Posted by foonermints on 12-07-13 at 07:30 PM
Not like Star Trek bad, but Germicho bad?


"Brian" is a terrible name for a dog.

"RE: He's ba-ack"
Posted by Estee on 12-07-13 at 09:38 PM
Take it to Ponythread or watch the confusion of the natives.

I am -- behind. Completely. I haven't seen one S4 episode: still don't have the Hub and my system has been in a slap fight with YouTube, so that's why I haven't commented on anything new. Which means for now, I just get to live in light dread.

Dare I ask who wrote it?

-- right. To Ponythread.

"Winter TV season begins."
Posted by Estee on 01-07-14 at 01:47 PM
Just to mention: I saw a small part of that Rachael Vs. Guy Vs. Something Else Must Be On latest celebrity cooking challenge edition and have good news to report: despite the best efforts of the genre to par back, we once again have a class of 'celebrity' whose only purpose is to appear on reality shows. Check out this lineup.

Judy Gold
Florence Henderson
Penn Jillette
Chris Kattan
Jake Pavelka
Tiffany
Vanilla Ice
Herschel Walker

Well, Penn's just there to amuse himself, but the rest... how many series between them, exactly?

Incidentally, Jake never mentioned Famous Food. One presumes the lawsuits are ongoing.

He also got his shirt off within the first hour. One presumes he knows what's keeping him on the air.

Chris Kattan? Still annoying. And probably hasn't learned to play poker yet.

"Intelligence "
Posted by suzzee on 01-08-14 at 03:41 PM
All is not Lost...

Sawyer Josh Holloway with a chip in his head rather than on his shoulder. They had me at Josh Holloway anyway.

tv.com says"Intelligence isn't a bad show, in fact, it's exactly the kind of entertainment that CBS has made a fortune on: Good guys knocking the turbans off of bad guys, basically. And if we look at Intelligence from that angle, it's exactly as expected and a perfectly fine way to spend an hour of time in front of the television. It has the star we all want to see in Holloway, it has babes for all ages in Meghan Ory and Marg Helgenberger, it has fancy computer graphics and techy mumbo-jumbo to assist high-stakes operations, and most importantly, it has Holloway punching and shooting bad guys."

While I'm having a Lost moment...

Sayed Naveen Andrews popped up on Once Upon a Time in Wonderland speaking in his native English accent. I'm not much for the show but he's attired all medieval and that English accent is enough for me while I gaze at the frozen wasteland outside.



Corrupting teenage boys since, well,
none of your business how long...

"Non-Intelligence "
Posted by michel on 01-08-14 at 08:22 PM
"They could have built a robot but made it human instead..." Those humans certainly weren't the actors: Most robotic acting performance I've seen. It got even worse when we learned that Holloway's new girl killed her abusive stepfather.
"RE: Intelligence "
Posted by foonermints on 01-08-14 at 10:33 PM
*watches Suzzee*
"RE: Intelligence "
Posted by suzzee on 01-09-14 at 11:07 AM
Stalkermints



Corrupting teenage boys since, well,
none of your business how long...

"RE: Intelligence "
Posted by Agman2 on 02-07-14 at 05:59 PM
*watches Suzzee*Suzzee's siggie

"It's a Chuck redux "
Posted by suzzee on 01-10-14 at 10:49 AM
A guy with the internet in his head protected by a hot government agent. Deja vu. I liked Chuck better, his nerd heard was more entertaining.


Corrupting teenage boys since, well,
none of your business how long...

"Late night rerun."
Posted by Estee on 02-07-14 at 05:47 PM
I am not saying any kind of goodbye to Jay Leno because:

1. It would be more of a 'That's enough: get out.'

2. I refuse to believe he's actually leaving.

Remember: we've done this before.

He is Really Caucasian Randy Jackson. Years after making anyone believe he was actually contributing, rumors of firing and replacements and pictures of his being shoved out the door -- none of it matters, because please welcome our new Tonight Show Mentor!

We won't be fooled again...

"RE: Late night rerun."
Posted by kingfish on 02-07-14 at 06:04 PM
Foolishly, I will hold out hope, not that it makes much difference, they are (supposedly) replacing him with Fallon. Not an improvement. Not anything. An nonentity filled dead hour.

He's (Leno) is just not funny or original anymore. One might argue that he used to be funny (sort of) but he has never been original. Only props I can give him are that his old car shows are entertaining.

Letterman is a once was, but ain't nomore. He's stale and should retire.

Ferguson stinks. How has he lasted?

Kimmel and Conan are the only ones with real comedy and (esp Conan) originality.

"RE: Late night rerun."
Posted by Estee on 02-07-14 at 06:20 PM
I once called Leno the lowest common denominator of comedy. Still applies, but I'll add this: he's the guy you put on a NASCAR track with the best vehicle and funding available because you've convinced yourself he can win the race -- and then he spends the entire race season at a top speed of 30 mph, occasionally risking 31, with his left turn signal on the whole time.

Kimmel and Conan are the ones in that group willing to take risks. Leno's idea of a major gamble is opening a small-town supermarket newspaper.

"S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok?"
Posted by Estee on 02-07-14 at 06:26 PM
Talk about slow builds... Gosh, how else can we possibly torture this character? Shall we kill his son? Because we're going to kill his son. It's a Josh Whedon show. Don't make any long-term investments based on your next paycheck. There won't be one.

As for shooting Skye -- see above. Only in her case, It's All Part Of The Plan.

For our new cyborg, it's just all part of the standard issue Whedon torture.

"RE: S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 02-08-14 at 06:18 PM
I think the son will keep breathing for awhile - that much more pain to inflict.
"RE: S.H.I.E.L.D: Deathlok?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-01-14 at 04:26 PM
And now they've ruined Agent Ward. Don't like this turn of events one bit.
"Michael and Sean gone"
Posted by starshine on 02-08-14 at 06:39 PM
It says here

Love Sean Hayes, but the show was a) far too clichéd, and b) not at all funny

Love Michael J Fox, when the show started it was a sitcom about Parkinsons and wasn't funny, however it had evolved into a clichéd family sitcom, and I thought quite a good one, not going to set the world on fire but a pleasant way of wasting 22 minutes. Sad to see it go.



One of my other claims to fame is that I actually met Michael J Fox once in Venice airport just before Back to the Future came out. I was on a cruise with my parents and had chummed up with some Americans and when they went across to say how much they enjoyed him in Family ??? I went with them.

"Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
Posted by Estee on 02-18-14 at 09:32 AM
"Welcome to eleven-thirty, bitch!"

Weak opening monologue and it felt like the network had ordered him to make Olympic jokes. Bad Olympic jokes. And he also knows there's a backup plan: the host -- for now...

But he had ten thousand pennies dumped on him, so there's that.

"RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
Posted by kingfish on 02-18-14 at 09:47 AM
LAST EDITED ON 02-18-14 AT 09:54 AM (EST)

I do not get Fallon. I mean, good for him, he has an epic gig anf presumably epic money, but his comedy? Meh.

Bits he doesn't steal, or aren't obvious to a blind person, he ruins by going way over the top. He might be OK if he were either funny or original, but he isn't either.

I understand he had some high profile guests. The network seems to be convinced that he needs help, and I suspect that that help didn't come cheap. Normally guests on these shows are paid the minimum fee, they need the exposure or to plug their acts. This time? I wonder.



A Tribal Whoopee! We're all gonna fry.

"RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
Posted by Estee on 02-18-14 at 10:21 AM
The sequence I saw through Mediaite had a number of A-Listers -- for about fifteen seconds each. Stay tuned for the Colbert bit at the end.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fallon-taps-rolodex-for-massive-cameo-filled-segment-featuring-everyone-from-lady-gaga-to-colbert/

Getting some high-end talent in order to lure in first-time viewers during a launch week is normal for just about any talk show: Fallon is being done no favor which wouldn't be offered by another network, although the others would have worked with a higher budget.

As for your opinion of his skills -- I can't agree just because I haven't seen enough of him to judge. But with Leno, NBC went with comedy's lowest common denominator. And it wouldn't surprise me to see those shoes filled by the soggiest socks available.

I'll give him a chance. But the bar is set about two millimeters above the ground.

"I never watched even one"
Posted by IceCat on 02-18-14 at 11:08 AM

... episode of the Tonight Show with Leno hosting.

I've never watched Fallon either so I'll guess I'll continue to avoid the Tonight Show.

"RE: I never watched even one"
Posted by kingfish on 02-18-14 at 11:28 AM
I watched back in the Carson days. Not much since.
"RE: Fallon takes over: Colbert wins"
Posted by kingfish on 02-18-14 at 11:26 AM
I watched his bits on SNL. They were sometimes mildly amusing, but never really amused me. And his Late Show gig. Every bit I saw that he did on that show I had seen other's do. Admittedly. I stopped watching early on.

"What's on?"
Posted by starshine on 02-18-14 at 05:27 PM
Well at the moment I am watching

My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic
Arrow
The Blacklist
Castle - Which may lose me if it keeps getting sillier every week
Community
Elementary
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Masterchef Canadia - Poutine for all!
Death in Paradise (KQEH in San Francisco, WGBX in New England)
Parks and Recreation occasionally

Any recommendations?

"RE: What's on?"
Posted by kingfish on 02-18-14 at 06:04 PM
“Last Man Standing” has some pretty sharp comedy. It is a sit-com, but Tim Allen is a solid performer, and Nancy Travis is still very watchable and comedic as are the actresses that play his kids, one of which, Kaitlyn Dever as Eve, shows different (but exceptional) acting chops on "Justified". There is also Hector Elizondo as Ed, normally a serious actor but showing exceptional comedic talents on this show.

I also recommend highly the aforementioned "Justified", with Timothy Oliphant and based on a Leonard Elmore story. This is (for me) a must record show., and is along the lines of "Deadwood" in intensity, and also starred Oliphant.

If you haven’t been following “Justified”, and liked “Deadwood”, you should try it out. And even think about ordering previous seasons (3 I think) of “Justified”.

"RE: What's on?"
Posted by Agman2 on 02-18-14 at 08:04 PM
Justified is an excellent show!
"RE: What's on?"
Posted by AyaK on 04-10-14 at 07:05 PM
>I also recommend highly the aforementioned
>"Justified", with Timothy Oliphant and
>based on a Leonard Elmore story.

Did Leonard Elmore know Elmore Leonard, who wrote "Fire in the Hole", the story on which Justified is based?

Both the show's writers and the late Mr. Leonard had fun with the interrelation of the show and the novels.

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/08/elmore_leonard_rips_off_justified/

"RE: What's on?"
Posted by kingfish on 04-11-14 at 08:51 AM
Very interesting article, especially to a fan of Mr Elmore. Or Mr Leonard. Still haven't got that straight.

(Smartass!)

"Believe"
Posted by newsomewayne on 03-11-14 at 12:24 PM
Watched the pilot last night. Interesting concept.

Static duo with revolving supporting characters and locations, so anything is possible. Mystery and intrigue behind the good guys and the bad guys. Inevitible sappiness coming between the leads from the revelation of the unknown relationship. Lots of "Highway to Heaven", but with magic instead of religion, with a possibility of mixing in Heroes.

Not terribly original, but not stale, either. Plus, I like watching and listening to Delroy Lindo. He reminds me of Professor Badass.

"CBS Renews .."
Posted by dabo on 03-13-14 at 08:51 PM
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2014/03/ncis-the-good-wife-two-and-a-half-men-and-15-other-shows-picked-up-by-cbs.html

.. most of its lineup.

"The Big Bang Theory" and "Survivor."
"Blue Bloods," "CSI," "Criminal Minds," "Elementary," "The Good Wife," "Hawaii Five-0," "NCIS," "NCIS: Los Angeles" and "Person of Interest."
"2 Broke Girls," "Mike & Molly," "The Millers," "Mom" and "Two and a Half Men."
"The Amazing Race" and "Undercover Boss"
"60 Minutes" and "48 Hours."

"The Mentalist," "The Crazy Ones," "Hostages" and "Intelligence" have not yet received word on their futures.

"RE: CBS Renews .."
Posted by kidflash212 on 03-14-14 at 08:28 AM
Didn't know "Undercover Boss" was still on. And CBS is still beating the dead horse that is "Two and a Half Men"?

I am glad TAR will be back, with any luck without The Cowboys, the Globetrotters and Brendan & Rachel.

"I Saw"
Posted by foonermints on 03-14-14 at 08:39 AM
Hells Kitchen scream it's way back last night. Eh.
In non-reality I was initially intrigued by Resurrection.
After the premiere, not so much. One last try though..


Handcrafted by RollDdice

"RE: CBS Renews .."
Posted by dabo on 03-14-14 at 01:05 PM
Boss occupies a Friday night dead zone. As for what keeps it on the air, each hour is essentially a commercial-of-the-week.

No idea what keeps Men going, the couple of times I watched it this year were horrible.

"RE: CBS Renews .."
Posted by kingfish on 03-14-14 at 08:47 AM
Most of the sit-coms could be dropped, IMO.

I still like BBT.

I started off liking 2 Broke Girls, but their jokes have become too predictable and really not very funny, and some of the regulars just aren't funny either. The blond in particular (Beth something) tries too hard and is just not a comic talent, but Jennifer Coolidge (great talent normally, and who can be seriously hilarious in other roles) is ridiculous on that show, and the polish cook is just stupid. I like Garret Morris (mainly out of nostalgia) and Kat Dennings is great.

And Two and a Half Men back again? Really? Seriously?

And Undercover Boss? How long will it be before people catch on that that new guy with the camera crew could be their boss? I mean, this is shown on national TV, surely someone will catch on. And the repeated teary scenarios get old. Bleah.

I still watch the Tim Allen show, Tim has honed his comic chops and it shows, he’s great. They have great (the best, IMO) writing, as well as superior acting and comic talent. Even bland old Nancy Travis holds up her end admirably. Even the fringe characters are fun. Just a show worth watching.

But aside from that show and BBT, please, just wipe the sit-com board and start over.

I am in awe of the monumentally great job that Johnny Miller does in pulling off the Sherlock Holmes character, and of the deft adaptation that the creators did bringing that story to contemporary life in New York. And especially of turning Lucy Liu into Watson. The stuffy pipe smoking English gentleman that Conan Doyle created was perfect for London, but would not translate to 2014 New York. Brilliant. Great show.

"RE: CBS Renews .."
Posted by Agman2 on 03-14-14 at 01:30 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-14 AT 01:44 PM (EST)



this is shown on national
TV, surely someone will catch
on.

Unfortunately, this is the very reason nobody seems to "catch on." They know if they give a sob story and suck up, they will probably get called to the reveal and get some money!



Alarmingly masterful tribal creation


*I wonder what the best sob story could be in order to get the most cash?

"RE: CBS Renews .."
Posted by dabo on 03-14-14 at 01:30 PM
LAST EDITED ON 03-14-14 AT 02:58 PM (EST)

Pretty much agree about sitcoms. BBT is on again off again this year, still worthwhile, and HIMYM's finale had better be worth the wait. Tim Allen's show is okay, I find it hit and miss. "Neighbors" is wonderfully off-beat, and "Crazy Ones" is pretty smart.

Mom is pretty horribly written stuff being carried by two stellar talents giving it everything they've got (and one stellar talent being wasted in a minor role).

ETA: Oh yeah, "The Middle" and "Modern Family" are alright if nothing else is on.

"Gasp!"
Posted by starshine on 03-16-14 at 02:08 PM
But, how could you write off Community? Still fantastically written and brilliantly acted.

Six seasons and a movie

"Psych"
Posted by dabo on 03-26-14 at 10:21 PM
And so long to a show I really didn't care that much about but was an okay time-waster. DW liked it.
"RE: Psych"
Posted by kingfish on 03-27-14 at 09:13 AM
They could occasionally decently pull off a silly silly silly premise.

The female police detective was entertaining, and Corbin Bernson (sp?) did make a great curmudgeon dad.

"Winding up the starshine"
Posted by starshine on 04-01-14 at 06:59 AM
I know it happens most years, however it seems to me that this year has been particularly bad for interruptions, the Skye & Fitzsimmonds show seems to be on a completely random schedule, and as for TBBT who knows which weeks it will be on? Is it any wonder series fail when the last episode was so long ago you need the full Biggest Loser reprise to remind you what the heck is going on.

However I think we have a winner. Series 2 of Perception (I watch it for the Levar Burton)... It was 14 episodes long Season premiere June 25, 2013, Season finale March 18, 2014. Nine months for fourteen epidodes, dashed silly if you ask me.

Oh and by the way if you take a six month gap between episodes (I'm looking at you Eureka and Warehouse 13) then it isn't a "continuation" it's a new series.

Grrrr

honorary mention series four of Warehouse 13, 20 episodes, first one broadcast July 23, 2012, last one July 8, 2013. Dashed ridiculous.

"The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
Posted by Estee on 04-10-14 at 12:47 PM
I'm not joking. CBS just announced him as Letterman's replacement.

"RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
Posted by dabo on 04-10-14 at 01:02 PM
Dang, I was hoping for Maddow.
"RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
Posted by newsomewayne on 04-10-14 at 02:40 PM
You think CBS knows that on his current show he's a persona?
"RE: The Late Show With Steven Colbert"
Posted by Estee on 04-10-14 at 03:23 PM
A certain percentage of his CC viewers haven't figured it out...

"ready set over-react!"
Posted by dabo on 04-10-14 at 06:02 PM
limbaugh
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/rush-limbaugh-stephen-colbert-assault_n_5127182.html

"CBS has just declared war on the heartland of America," Limbaugh fumed.

"Craigyferg"
Posted by udg on 05-01-14 at 06:08 PM
Is outta here.

Late night won't be the same without him.


Thanks to tribephyl for the sigpic!

"Two shows"
Posted by kingfish on 04-14-14 at 09:28 PM
1. Bletchley Park. Understated dialog, almost somnolent, and unflashy to the max. Very authentic characters and a very authentic seeming early 50's setting. So very British.

What sets this show apart is the premise, four ladies that had been part of the famous and brilliant top secret British code breaking team at Bletchley Park, ten years later after having had resumed their roles as housewives and low level professionals (secretaries etc.), now almost accidently getting involved in solving crimes. What an intelligent premise. The only problem that I can see for the writers (aside from keeping the audience awake) is coming up with plots worthy of these ladies. Slow, plodding, typically British, and brilliant.

2. Those That kill. Chloë Sevigny. This show has to be seen to be believed, he lead actor (Chloe Sevigny) is just unreal. Great supporting cast, great writing, great in just about every category, but Chloe is just amazing.

"RE: Two shows"
Posted by dabo on 04-15-14 at 01:27 AM
translating

it's Bletchley Circle

and

Those Who Kill

"RE: Two shows"
Posted by kingfish on 04-15-14 at 08:35 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-14 AT 11:22 AM (EST)

Thanks, duly noted. Or is it dually knotted?

Anyway, Bletchley is such an English name. No false pizazz there. Could have come right from the mind of JK Rowling (Or is it Rollering?).

I am the worst self-editor. According to Estee, I am also pretty bad at self-restraint.

(Have resisted the urge to edit my previous post, and make you look like an idiot. You owe me).

"RE: Two shows"
Posted by Estee on 04-15-14 at 08:58 AM
So TWK got moved to the Lifetime Movie Network? Makes sense, I guess... every victim is female, every bad guy is male and at some point, a main character will fall in love with a priest.
"RE: Two shows"
Posted by PsychoKitty on 05-23-14 at 01:39 PM
What channel is Bletchley Circle and Those That Kill on? I'd love to check them out! Chloe Sevigny is fascinatingly weird : )

Not that I have an opinion one way or another ;)
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"RE: Two shows"
Posted by dabo on 05-23-14 at 03:59 PM
BC on PBS. TWK started on A&E then switched to LMN (Lifetime Movie Network).
"Jump the sharklet"
Posted by Estee on 04-15-14 at 06:48 AM
So last night on 2 Broke Girls, Lindsay Lohan guest-starred as a bride who kept changing her mind about absolutely everything, every five seconds or so, resulting in an episode where our intrepid heroines delivered a cake mostly made of Radio Shack styrofoam and Max had to walk down the aisle under a veil to get married under false pretenses, otherwise they wouldn't get paid for the inedible cake.

Seems legit.

"RE: Jump the sharklet"
Posted by kingfish on 04-15-14 at 08:42 AM
I think that episode was an allegorical reflection of Lohan's life. If so, at least it worked on that level.

It's frustrating to me to watch the blond attempt to deliver jokes. I hope she can sing or juggle or do ventriloquism or something. Comedy isn’t her thing.

Denning is the only bright spot in an otherwise badly utilized cast. And she’s turning into a predictable one trick pony.

Agree on the jumped the shark comment.

"RE: Jump the sharklet"
Posted by Estee on 04-15-14 at 08:50 AM
Disagree on Beth Behrs: I find her to be a decent actress and a surprisingly-gifted physical comedienne who has no visible hesitation about literally throwing herself into the jokes.

(I checked to make sure I had her last name spelled correctly and the search engine delivered her height: 5'5" -- the same as Kat Dennings. Dear gawds, what kind of heels is Wardrobe sticking her in every week?)

But it very much feels as if the writers are running out of ideas. The show always had a few farcical elements waiting to come out whenever you took your eyes off them, but this episode threw the last shreds of reality out the window.

I'd like to blame Lohan Exposure, but it's been a trend for a while now. *shrug* So it goes -- into next season, because this has already been renewed. Possibly for the last time.

"Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
Posted by kidflash212 on 04-15-14 at 09:53 AM
I hadn't watched Saturday Night Live in many years. I knew the quality had to have slipped but for some reason decided to watch this past weekend.

What a load of crap. Just terrible. How is this show still on the air?

"RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
Posted by AyaK on 04-15-14 at 10:23 AM
You know, I tried to watch last week's episode (for the first time all year) too. I gave up during one of the worst Weekend Updates since Charles Rocket.
"RE: Speaking of Jumping The Shark..."
Posted by kingfish on 04-15-14 at 11:27 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-14 AT 11:27 AM (EST)

I watched a DVD recording. It's obviously better if you are able to FF through the worst parts. Agree about the Weekend updates, stinkaroo. A generally weak cast with only a few bright spots.

"Friends With Better Lives"
Posted by kidflash212 on 04-15-14 at 10:02 AM
Watched the first episode and thought there might be some potential. Watched again last night, all sex jokes and a hamburger having an orgasm. James has matured into a fine looking man but not enough to keep me watching this drivel.
"RE: Friends With Better Lives"
Posted by coldbrewer on 04-25-14 at 07:15 PM
Show is decent - for some reason, I just can't get into the character of Will. Me thinks he was miscast for that part.



thanks Agman!

"Early warning for hurricane season."
Posted by Estee on 04-17-14 at 06:43 PM
I won't go into full spoilers here (and put the complete list up in the relevant forum), but I felt this bit had to be posted in double view. I just got a complete, confirmed, verified, the-pictures-tell-the-tale cast list for Donald Trump's next orgy of self-promotion.

So.

Kate Gosselin.

This would be where I said *click*, but Donald couldn't get my viewership back without direct cash payment anyway.

"RE: Early warning for hurricane season."
Posted by kingfish on 04-18-14 at 08:57 AM
Actually, that is so Trump of him.

Please, please, let him also get Palin. I'm still not gonna watch, but then I might contribute in the RTVW threads. Which hopefully will have been shuffled to the bottom of the "Other SHows" forum.

"RE: Early warning for hurricane season."
Posted by Estee on 04-18-14 at 09:48 AM
Their egos wouldn't fit in the same building. I'm surprised they can occupy one reality without making it explode. It may only be possible because they don't exist in the same one as the rest of us.

(On a seemingly unrelated note, Bill O'Reilly recently said that (his estimate) 20m Americans using marijuana proves he has to take care of us, apparently by thinking and legislating for everyone. So. How many Americans are members of the Tea Party?)

So no post turtles, but he went through his usual trick of casting the female side for fights. The man is extremely predictable. And boring. And hopefully not getting into the NFL. Ever.

"Forget television."
Posted by Estee on 04-24-14 at 06:48 PM
I'm watching Back To The Future IV.

And it is glorious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8X0tp_VTlM

"Criminal Minds."
Posted by Estee on 05-01-14 at 01:21 PM
This is the first year I've watched full episodes of the show, and I just wanted to go on the record with something:

They pick the stupidest reasons for people to go serial killer. The show proposes that the human psyche is so fragile that pretty much anything will turn people into mass murdersrs. Anything at all.

Went on gambling winning streak: must kill to keep the luck going. Got cut off in traffic: must murder every police office who didn't arrest the offending driver. Believes in organic food: must kidnap men and use their bodies as fertilizer. Saw people in line at a coffee shop: decided fate had chosen them to die. Favorite restaurant changed their menu: clearly everyone responsible must be inhumed.

I only made two of those up. At least, I think I did. I may have just missed those actual episodes.

Watch too many episodes and if you find yourself waiting at the bank while the person ahead of you insists on counting the contents of their just-acquired change rolls just in case the machine made a mistake, you start wondering just how many customers around you are going to go on murder sprees over it.

It's not badly-acted. The writing tends towards mediocre outside the main character interactions. But the premise is trying to extinct sharks.

"RE: Criminal Minds."
Posted by dabo on 05-01-14 at 04:15 PM
I gave up on that show ages ago. Enjoyed the recurring characters and the squad dynamics and all that, just got fed up with the disgusting idiot monster disguised as human unsubs of the week.
"RE: Criminal Minds."
Posted by starshine on 05-06-14 at 05:00 AM
Speaking as someone who can no longer get Lamb-E-Belfoi (Lamb cooked with green olives and lime juice) from his favourite Indian restaurant I'm right alongside Favorite restaurant changed their menu: clearly everyone responsible must be inhumed.

Lovely cheese Mooney

"RE: Criminal Minds."
Posted by kingfish on 05-06-14 at 08:28 AM
Well, of course those traffic cutter offers, they really must go. Being buried alive without essential appendages would be very suitable.

I also watched an episode or two, and although that isn't large enough sampling to be representative, I just didn't see anything especially noteworthy. Kinda boring, really.

Am intrigued at the moment with "Those Who Kill" starring Chloe Sevigny. Also deals with sick/serial murderers. Very dark, and Sevigny's subtlety is spellbinding.

Very competent supporting cast.

"Under The Dome 2.0"
Posted by Molaholic on 05-01-14 at 03:54 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-01-14 AT 03:55 PM (EST)

Sure, still some time before it hits us -- but the promos are promoing in full vigor, so I feel I'm within my rights to ask:

WHY?
 clearly there's better pre-summer drivel that can foisted upon us.

"Spolier Alert!"
Posted by dabo on 05-01-14 at 04:20 PM
They eventually will have to turn to cannibalism and in the end will all meet up in some sort of Purgatory where the extra-dimensionals will hook them up to radiolike broadcast devices to influence all of humanity to destroy itself. Waste of time, we're doing it anyway, but they're getting impatient.
" Under The Dome Death Wish"
Posted by foonermints on 05-01-14 at 10:17 PM
I've noticed the Hype too.

It turned into puke at the end of season 1. Now the dead hoss is starting to stink. I guess the writers don't mind the stink, as long as they get a paycheck.

"S.H.I.E.L.D: "A large file transfer.""
Posted by Estee on 05-07-14 at 03:00 PM
Line of the year.

Having trouble with Garrett's Start Of Darkness, though. And even with Hydra agents everywhere, how do you justify getting through a decade or two of medical exams without ever once having the hardware spotted? How about airports? Security station checks? Beach metal detectors?

We'll see how it ends next week. Whedon's not above killing two main characters, so I'm not holding out much hope for Fitz or Simmons. Beyond that... ABC is supposedly developing Agent Carter for next season, giving them a Marvel power block.

Better than pairing this with The Goldbergs.

"The Mentalist"
Posted by dabo on 05-10-14 at 11:23 PM
renewed

CBS cancelled
Intelligence
Hostages
Bad Teacher
Friends with Better Lives
The Crazy Ones

ABC cancelled
Mixology
Neighbors
Suburgatory
Super Fun Night
Trophy Wife

FOX cancelled
Dads
Enlisted
Rake
Surviving Jack

The CW cancelled
The Carrie Diaries
Star-Crossed
The Tomorrow People

NBC cancelled
Believe
Community
Crisis
Dracula
Growing Up Fisher
Revolution

"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by udg on 05-11-14 at 02:26 PM
Bad Teacher? Really? I haven't watched, but the HYPE was unavoidable. CBS really, really, really seemed to want that one to work for them (really!), and I think they've only aired like 2 episodes so far.


Thanks to tribephyl for the sigpic!
I haven't seen FWBL either, but even the commercials seemed to be trying too hard.

"Bad Teacher"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-12-14 at 10:17 AM
I did watch it. How it made it on the air in the first place is a bigger mystery than why it was cancelled. For a show like that to work, you would have to go way over the top with the bad teacher antics, be a live action cartoon. Missed the mark entirely.

Friends With Better Lives (enough with the acronyms!)needed to ditch the entire writing staff and hire again. Good cast with nothing to work with - second episode relied completely on sex jokes. The vegan character needed to be ditched or re-written entirely.

"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-12-14 at 10:18 AM
There was a show called Dracula? Missed that.
"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by dabo on 05-12-14 at 10:42 AM
It totally sucked. The only reason it lasted as long as it did was it was in a Friday night dead-zone between Grimm and the local news.
"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by Estee on 05-12-14 at 12:57 PM
The two things that amazed me most on that list were losing The Crazy Ones -- I'd think CBS would have had more faith in trying a slow build -- and retaining Hannibal. Which deserved to keep going, but... NBC.
"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by personofinterest on 05-12-14 at 03:49 PM
Pun intended!
"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by kingfish on 05-14-14 at 12:24 PM
Too bad. I really liked "Rake".
"RE: The Mentalist"
Posted by PsychoKitty on 05-23-14 at 01:33 PM
Most of these smelled so bad I didn't even try them, but I'm really disappointed about Suburgatory. I really liked that show! It was really sweet AND edgy with great acting and characters. I will miss it. Rake too was fun! I kept forgetting when it was on, so I was inconsistent watching. But also a great cast - I LOVE Greg Kinnear! And the couple playing his best friends were really cool. They should have given it more of a chance. How come the Mentalist is still on? Boring . . . !


Not that I have an opinion one way or another ;)
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"S.H.I.E.L.D. finale"
Posted by Estee on 05-14-14 at 10:59 AM
So everyone on the team is a felon wanted by the U.S. government. You're going to be hunted by Glenn Talbot, whose record on such things is -- spotty, but he tends to cause a lot of collateral damage, all of which he will blame on you. Any source of financing is dubious. Once the replacement parts for plane damage run out, you're screwed. Good luck finding an airstrip which will land without turning you in. And under these circumstances, you are supposed to -- go recruiting. Come be a felon right besides us! And by the way, your former leader is letting you take that fall on your own.

Your team members? Let's see. Everyone is now officially emotionally damaged. One may have suffered brain damage on top of that. The current leader apparently has drug-induced diagrams taking over his sleepwalks, while the computer expert reportedly stands a good chance of turning into a monster. Still more great recruiting tools, don't you think?

See you in the fall!

"HIMYD in limbo"
Posted by dabo on 05-14-14 at 07:20 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-14-14 AT 07:32 PM (EST)

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/05/14/how-met-your-dad-not-going-forward-at-cbs-what-went-wrong-whats-next/

Fine with me, I wasn't planning on watching it anyway.

Of the recently cancelled shows I will miss Intelligence, The Crazy Ones and Neighbors. Super Fun Night was okay, DW liked it a lot more than I did. The biggest surprise was Community getting the axe. I gave up on it about midway during the series premiere, but it did have a dedicated following.

The best news I read recently, TAR is moving to Fridays! Yes, it is moving again! TAR is on the move!

http://www.eonline.com/news/541045/canceled-tv-shows-2014-which-series-will-you-miss-the-most-vote-now?cmpid=par-121113-outbrain-paid-links

Community 16.41%
Revolution 11.88%
Almost Human 7.81%
Trophy Wife 6.98%
The Crazy Ones 5.33%
The Tomorrow People 5.04%
The Carrie Diaries 4.99%
Intelligence 4.96%
Star-Crossed 4.70%
Suburgatory 4.65%
Surviving Jack 4.03%
Friends With Better Lives 3.79%
Dracula 3.13%
Believe 3.09%
Growing Up Fisher 2.85%
Crisis 2.34%
The Neighbors 1.59%
Super Fun Night 1.24%
Enlisted 1.11%
Mixology 1.11%
Rake 0.88%
Hostages 0.86%
Dads 0.83%
Bad Teacher 0.39%

"RE: HIMYD in limbo"
Posted by Molaholic on 05-23-14 at 11:03 AM
Of that list -- I've seen a couple of episodes of #FWBL (well, it was on while i was in the room) and the first episode of The Neighbors. Not much to miss ...
"I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by Estee on 05-20-14 at 04:55 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-20-14 AT 04:56 PM (EST)

The reviews are attempting to make this out as The Worst Thing Ever.

So naturally I'll watch the premiere tonight.

It's got to be better than putting up with Chris Harrison right? According to the reviewers, this turkey doesn't even have a host. Improvement!

ETA the Metacritic link: http://www.metacritic.com/tv/i-wanna-marry-harry

"RE: I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by Estee on 05-21-14 at 01:55 PM
I'm going to assume I'm the only one who watched. I didn't hear anyone else vomiting.
"RE: I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by kingfish on 05-23-14 at 01:55 PM
I didn't see it, didn't see a trailer, and didn't see when it was to be shown. But I wouldn't have watched it anyway.

Was it about the royal Harry? I'm picturing a bunch of wannabee princesses competing to be his...whatever?

"RE: I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by Estee on 06-04-14 at 02:50 PM
It is, in a word, odious.

Basically, this is a takeoff on Joe Millionaire. The producers (including a little Pure Evil) found someone with a strong resemblance to the prince and used makeup to close the remaining gap. They then took twelve very stereotypical dating show contestants, mostly chosen in the hopes that no one would feel sorry for them, and flew them to the UK. Then the producers brought in "Harry". And let the women believe they were fighting over the real thing.

The main entertainment is watching them play the Let's Not Get Sued game. "Harry" never speaks his name. Neither does anyone else. They bring in security and paparazzi and all the trappings, then just let the contestants make assumptions -- so that any conclusions they reach are presumed to legally be their own fault.

And of course, the winner gets to lose when "Harry" reveals who he truly is.

The actor who did this has said he has no regrets, which tells you a lot about that personality. The people who created it... created it, and that pretty much says it all. And the network which broadcast it? FOX, which sums any remainders up.

Genuinely sickening show.

Happily, Storage Wars just started back up.

"RE: I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by kingfish on 06-04-14 at 03:29 PM
This has to be a scripted fake reality show.

No one could be stupid enough to believe that they could be competing to marry a Royal, could they?

Even after having witnessed the moronic cons that Survivor, TAR, and BB cast members have fallen for over the years, I can't believe that this show is anything but a thin hoax.

Even Morgan couldn't be that stupid.

"RE: I Wanna Marry "Harry"."
Posted by Molaholic on 06-04-14 at 04:16 PM
And yet, with all of that, I feel very confident that we are still several layers from the bottom of the barrel.

(Too bad that the Powers That Be took the safe route legal-wise. It would have been nice to have the Tower of London get some traditional guests back after all these years.)

"No one wants to watch 'Harry"."
Posted by Estee on 06-12-14 at 05:27 PM
From our own article:

"On Tuesday night's most recent episode of the reality dating series, less than 1 million viewers reportedly tuned in, which makes I Wanna Marry "Harry" the lowest-rated original series ever on any of the Big Four networks"

In other words, this historically svcked. And FOX, which presumably has better things to do than suffer through this, pulled it from the schedule. It'll finish up online and it might get broadcast time again if the replacement somehow manages to do worse, but I think we can officially consider this one to be a crashing failure.

That should buy a few years before someone tries it again.

"Last Comic Standing"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-14 at 06:54 AM
It's like a horror movie series where the killer is never truly dead.

For what it's worth, I found the funniest part of last night to be the insistence on calling the opening rounds 'invitationals'. So they finally admitted you can't walk into an open audition on this show: everyone there was scouted, including those who were meant to be rejected. Tightest scripting NBC's had all year...

"Enlisted"
Posted by coldbrewer on 05-23-14 at 12:45 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-23-14 AT 06:57 PM (EST)

The remaining 2 episodes start airing 6/1/14 @7:00pm on Fox. I believe the show is still cancelled.



thanks Agman!