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"The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-23-13, 02:40 PM (EST)
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"The Amy's Baking Company fiasco" |
If you haven't heard about this yet, a quick search engine run will uncover -- a lot. In fact, the amount being turned up is increasing by the minute. The complete Kitchen Nightmares episode may still be on YouTube, and you might want to consider watching it as a reference point once you see the articles.Public (and Internet) breakdowns. Multiple violations of the law. Multiple summonings of the law. Public relations people running away at top speed. Lawsuits which never quite manifest. Customers threatened with arrest for walking out on food they never received. A co-owner who's been banned from two countries. Money laundering accusations (those are new). And more insanity than you can shake a frying pan at. Poor Gordon. Who knew the show's name was finally going to turn prophetic? 
I saw the episode when it aired. I was in shellshock for an hour.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 07:43 AM (EST)
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13. "I think we need a new page in the DSM" |
Egad.Talk about personality disorders on display. I always worry about people who have that serious lack of self awareness. If you truly believe everything you do is the bestest of the best and bests all the other bests that have ever bested... Chances are you so incompetent you can't even tell you are incompetent. So any chance their rampant public paranoia and displays of insanity has kept them from getting a concealed carry permit? Poor Gordon, poor poor Gordon. I never thought this would be the trope I would invoke. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakTheCutie I mean usually the people on this show are dysfunctional or incompetent, but at least have some desire to make things work buried under all that. But these people. I really think they expected Gordon, whose job it is on the show to find everything that isn't working and fix it, to show up and proclaim them perfect in every way and so amazing he would hand over all his Michelin stars to them.
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 08:30 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: I think we need a new page in the DSM" |
"You think you're tough? I'm the gangster here!"
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 11:15 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Probable weapons status." |
So who do they blame for those legal problems? I mean they are perfection on earth, so pre-Yelp who were the haters just lying them into trouble and hacking their lives?
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 11:42 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Probable weapons status." |
But without that think of how few stories you would have to tell us.
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Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 11:54 AM (EST)
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20. "Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
Warning: not safe for work or PG-13. But then, neither is Amy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk For those still looking for the original version, here's a current TouTube hosting of the ABC's Kitchen Nightmares episode. Also note the sheer number of secondary videos on the side scroll. Ye gawds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjgHEctcy0#t=28m26s Here's another look at the Facebook Meltdown. http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever Also, since tropes have been invoked, Amy and Samy are now all over the KN page. You might be able to guess at some of the tropes involved. Well, it's fame... sort of. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/KitchenNightmares?from=Main.RamsaysKitchenNightmares (and yes, they're all over the secondary pages too, especially the YMMV one.) And Amy made it into Forbes! -- as a primer on what not to do with social media. http://tinyurl.com/ntmm3p4 Watch her take that out of context should they go looking for investors. She was in Forbes, y'know. Do the people with cash need to know what the article was actually about? Nope. By the way, it turns out they are in violation of Arizona law: it's illegal to confiscate a server's tips. There's actually a petition up on change.org, asking the Department Of Labor to go after them on this. I think the word we need here is firestorm.
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kidflash212 4076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-24-13, 12:31 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
I watched the episode when it was first broadcast - I knew they were crazy but I never thought it would blow up to this.
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Starshine 5033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 03:02 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
To be honest it didn't strike me as any worse that the place in Nashville that insisted that the locals didn't know Cajun food, and took all of Gordon's changes out the second he left.
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PepeLePew13 25173 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 03:24 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
The difference is that the place in Nashville gave the pretense of going along with the changes until he left - Amy/Samy were openly hostile at the slightest suggestion there was anything wrong and they were openly stealing from their employees. Plus there's that Internet sparring that took this to a much bigger level beyond anything than the Nashville folks did. If Amy/Samy shut up and didn't engage anyone online, we'd have forgotten all about that episode by now.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-24-13, 04:35 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
This is a softball interview from what I watched of it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVYOtvaea1QBut apparently if you call the waitstaff bussers and runners and they don't really take orders, except when they do, and they con't communicate with the wife in the kitchen because no one can figure out how to talk to Amy but her husband... they aren't supposed to get the tips anyway. The only waitstaff is the husband. Now if they aren't lying...o_0...they pay above minimum wage and so they may be skirting the law as the reason waitstaff gets tips is they don't get paid by the business but get some of their wages from the customers directly so they don't need minimum wage. But...
Waitstaff in union restaurants, as few as they are, that make a lot more per hour than most servers get tips and get to keep them.
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kidflash212 4076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-25-13, 11:47 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
Legal or not, if I leave a tip, I'm leaving it for the person I believed was my server. If I knew it was going to the owner of the establishment, I wouldn't leave any.
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Sunny_Bunny 5594 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-27-13, 04:25 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)" |
Amen! The tip goes to the person who took my order, brought me my food and brought me stuff if I asked for it. Why would I tip the crazy guy standing behind a counter keeping his equally crazy wife happy?
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kidflash212 4076 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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05-30-13, 12:22 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Would you like flies with that?" |
I'm going to start selling "I got kicked out of Amy's Baking Company" T-shirts. I'm going to be a millionaire!
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Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-30-13, 01:10 PM (EST)
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30. "Completely serious." |
Get that to one of the Internet shirt-printing companies now and get your stamp on it before anyone steals it. That's not a million-dollar idea, but if you move fast enough, I can see you clearing a thousand dollars before the craze wears off.
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-30-13, 02:15 PM (EST)
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31. "Completely un-serious." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-30-13 AT 02:16 PM (EST) Sorry. Too late. Snooze, you lose.
Now if you want one, contact //http:KingfishTees. A $49.99 value, and if you say Kingfish is a studly handsome yet self-effacing man, you can have it for $19.99. But wait, that's not all! If you respond in the next 30 minutes, we'll double the offer. Making this an unbelievable offer of 2 Tees for $19.99. But we're not finished yet!. During this special promotional period, each will be fin printed by non-other than Kingfish's minion himself, in person.
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-31-13, 08:21 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Warning: Kingfish" |
Bullet holes. I forgot to mention that bullet holed Tees are an added bonus. The bloody ones are extra.
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suzzee 5329 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-13, 10:01 AM (EST)
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39. "RE: Warning: Kingfish" |
That did it, I now have to clean the screen. Thanks it was totally your fault that I laughed. Fish & Fooner, a screen spraying in two posts. I'm going to blog, tweet and get my hair done for my Forbes shoot.  I should be watched....closely.
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Starshine 5033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-13, 03:05 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Would you like flies with that?" |
Never had a restaurant that I know of like that over here, but you bring back fond memories of a Chinese restaurant on Wardour Street called Wong Kei’s (pronounced “wonky’s”)  Rude waiters, very loud, if you asked for a fork or spoon you needed to have the catching skills of Jonty Rhodes as they chucked it at you, I remember once when I was eating alone on the ground floor that they threw someone out for asking for a menu, but the food was very fresh, very cheap and well above par, when I used to go, back in the mid '90s I would have a big bowl of Wonton noodle soup and a big bowl of congee or beef in black bean sauce with ho fun, or roast duck with egg fried rice for under a fiver, not bad at all, and I couldn't eat for the rest of the day! Happy memories! OTOH Fawlty Towers was apparently based on a real hotelier Maybe I am used to Hong Kong style Chinese food (despite all of these restaurants promising me that they are cooking Szechuan or Peking) but I have never really got on with Chinese food outside of UK/NL it always tastes very odd to me.
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Snidget 44369 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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06-02-13, 08:17 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Would you like flies with that?" |
Hard to know if the food is a different region of China or you are just eating Chinese food adapted for UK tastes. They do seem to adapt their food and flavors to local tastes. After all some of the things we think are Chinese food here are American inventions in a Chinese style that we like to eat so they all cook it for us. I've noticed Chinese food varies from region to region in the USA. More deep fried stuff with hot sauce in the south than I ever saw in the Midwest.
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Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-02-14, 00:25 AM (EST)
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44. "He's going back to try again." |
April 11th. Two hours. Gear up the t-shirts while there's still time.http://www.tvguide.com/News/Kitchen-Nightmares-Amys-Baking-Company-1079946.aspx I waited until April 2nd hit so there would be a chance you'd believe me. I understand being this desperate for ratings. I can even believe they're this desperate for attention, stupid enough to believe it'll all work out this time, and no more capable of seeing it coming. I'm just not sure how they're still open...
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Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-03-14, 07:10 AM (EST)
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52. "RE: He's going back to try again." |
You think a reality show contract allows participants to decide what airs? Really?As far as I can tell, it's still on. It looks like the episode was filmed at the end of January -- shortly after Samy accused Gordon of sexually harassing Amy. Oh, and he now claims he threw Gordon out the first time. He's very proud to have shut down production. (I found that on Newsmax. I have to shoot my computer now.) Also, the ABC employee contract came out. The one with a $250 fine for not working a surprise weekend shift. Pay the bosses. And when they fire you, you're not allowed to take another food service job in a fifty-mile radius. Not that you worked in food service with them. Now hand over your tips. And there are now I Survived Amy's Baking Company t-shirts. They make them. Anyone weeping yet?
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-04-14, 09:19 AM (EST)
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60. "How do they do it?" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-05-14 AT 10:56 AM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 04-04-14 AT 09:23 AM (EST) This has been asked before, so by now it's largely rhetorical. But it’s still an enigma. To me. Just how do they stay in business? Are notoriety, lying, assaulting customers, bad food, and slave driving the staff really the ingredients of a successful business model? Is appearing on national TV to demonstrate just how bad a restaurant what it takes? Can they possibly be catering to the actual tastes of people in Scottsdale? My mother was an entertainment columnist for a local newspaper where I grew up, and would write reviews on local restaurants. She visited one place and wrote a gently negative review (she was a gentle person), and the place closed within two months. She assumed (probably correctly) that her review contributed to their failure, and she felt very bad about that. I mean, if you write an honest review you have to stick to your guns, but still, she felt bad. So, if in the real world all it takes to kill a restaurant's business is a bad review in a local podunk rag, how do Amy and Semy manage to stay open with their sins exposed for the world to see? Self-delusion and rewriting history might be why they would entertain the notion of inviting Gordon back, or appearing on Dr. Phil. but they can’t be why they are still in business. BTW, my money is on them walking off the set during the Dr. Phil interview. And how about the ratings for the Judge Judy show if she could get them in her court? You don’t lie to Judge Judy, no sir! Ma’am!
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-05-14, 10:54 AM (EST)
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63. "RE: How do they do it?" |
A lot of insanity has to be part of the explanation. Even much more than is exposed. <my mind just got boggled>.
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kingfish 17040 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-09-14, 03:19 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: OMH!" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-14 AT 03:19 PM (EST) "People have been saying the most disgusting, vile, horrific things to us," Amy claims." She continues, "Someone else actually wrote, 'If I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden and the owner of Amy's Baking Company, and I had two bullets, I would shoot Amy twice." I think that sums up my feelings. I might line them up with the hope of maybe getting Hitler and Bin Laden after passing through Amy, but they would just be a fringe benefits.
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Estee 56371 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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04-09-14, 04:31 PM (EST)
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66. "East Coast Spoiler Thread?" |
Should we? Because the Dr. Fullofhimself appearance is really coming across as preemptive damage control -- and no matter what the two will insist until the end of their fame time, you can't film what didn't happen.
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snidget 68 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-09-14, 06:47 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-14 AT 06:48 PM (EST)Partially pre-empted here for the Fort Hood shooting. Dr. Phil shot them cursing up a storm, but oh but everyone does that when they attack back. And I dunno why they think escalating the situation, even if you were provoked, makes it better or will make it stop. Uh oh, one of the reviewers did agree to come on the show...I usually only hide behind the couch and watch from between my fingers for the flying monkeys.
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snidget 68 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-09-14, 10:10 PM (EST)
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70. "RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?" |
Can't risk the judge putting a gag order on them until the trial...
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