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"The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 02:40 PM
If you haven't heard about this yet, a quick search engine run will uncover -- a lot. In fact, the amount being turned up is increasing by the minute. The complete Kitchen Nightmares episode may still be on YouTube, and you might want to consider watching it as a reference point once you see the articles.

Public (and Internet) breakdowns.

Multiple violations of the law.

Multiple summonings of the law.

Public relations people running away at top speed.

Lawsuits which never quite manifest.

Customers threatened with arrest for walking out on food they never received.

A co-owner who's been banned from two countries.

Money laundering accusations (those are new).

And more insanity than you can shake a frying pan at.

Poor Gordon. Who knew the show's name was finally going to turn prophetic?

I saw the episode when it aired. I was in shellshock for an hour.

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"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by kingfish on 05-23-13 at 02:55 PM
Charming people.

Who would have ever guessed that we'd ever say "Poor Gordon Ramsey".

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 03:07 PM
I say it at least once a season after seeing what the HK casting director stuck him with this time. I swear they're trying to break him. And they keep getting closer to making it.

But this -- KN (the stateside version) likes to cast dysfunctional owners so the audience can have the 'fun' of trying to figure out how the place stayed open that long to begin with. You get used to it after a while. But growing numb to a suddenly-normal level of insanity means the casting department will keep pushing for the boundaries. And they finally crossed the border.

We've talked about lack of vetting for competition shows. We have now reached the point where drop-ins require an Interpol check.

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by dabo on 05-23-13 at 03:03 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-23-13 AT 03:05 PM (EST)

From what I heard, the Twitter War alone was the most awesome clash ever.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2013/05/16/amys-baking-company-vs-the-entire-internet/

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by cahaya on 05-23-13 at 03:08 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-23-13 AT 03:15 PM (EST)

Furthermore, a google search of their web site indicates:

This site may be compromised.

(eta) And I found this amusing, in the WaPo article:

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 03:19 PM
Thanks for the link. This was another one of those 'dear gawds, where do I start?' stories. Providing a comprehensive account would have to mean new details weren't coming out every five minutes...

*reads*

I got portions of that from other sources and the writer really should have printed more of the tweets. Nice diagram, though.

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by dabo on 05-23-13 at 03:35 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-23-13 AT 03:36 PM (EST)

The HuffPo has a sampling of tweets. Gems like:

This is Samy. I am keeping note of all the names here. We will be pursuing action against you legaly, and against reddit and yelp, for this plot you have come together on. you are all just punks.

Keep scrolling down, it gets funnier after the hacking non-apology.

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 04:08 PM
Well, someone had a sampling of tweets. And then the swooping news vulture came along...

*reads s'more*

Thankee. This is the official Internet equivalent of a six-mile rubberneck, isn't it?

(BTW, at last report, the PR company ran away. Wonder why. And look! Up at the top of the page! Deportation!)

Might as well directly link the Yelp and Reddit pages...

http://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/1e9tk2/so_amys_baking_companys_facebook_page_is_having_a/

http://www.yelp.com/biz/amys-baking-company-scottsdale?sort_by=date_desc

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-23-13 at 04:45 PM
Here is Amy's twin brother...

(Note: extra-spicy language here)

http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/if-you-like-amys-baking-co-youll-love-this-ceo/

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 05:35 PM
Oh yeah? R U a skunk?!? Do you like skunks? Is a skunk your lover?

"Not even the Worsters would eat there."
Posted by Estee on 05-23-13 at 03:31 PM
But they have been on top of the story to the point where their own short thread and posted links form one of the more accurate accounts I've seen so far. I hadn't known about Amy's jail time for identity fraud until I checked their most recent updates.

Start in the middle of the page. Note that they did capture some of Amy's online rants.

http://www.votefortheworst.com/forum/18/topic/65430/ramseys-kitchen-nightmares-invading-the-american/page5

Remember, it's okay to lie if the other person isn't American!

And hopefully this video is still embedded.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2013/05/kitchen_nightmares_amys_baking_company_season_finale_gordon_ramsay_scottsdale.php?ref=trending

"RE: Not even the Worsters would eat there."
Posted by Starshine on 05-23-13 at 04:12 PM
Yes, not being American I don't understand how relabelling a product and saying that you made it could be considered OK.

But to be honest I'm not sure that I have met an American who thinks it would be OK either.

Thinks I could import CQ coffee and make my fortune!, or maybe change Wheezy to Starshine on the book jackets, I'm sure that would be OK.

"RE: The Amy's Baking Company fiasco"
Posted by foonermints on 05-24-13 at 00:20 AM
LAST EDITED ON 05-24-13 AT 08:29 AM (EST)

But she has charming eye makeup!

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Pizzeria-owners-engage-in-war-of-words-with-blogger-who-posted-bad-review-99912879.html

She's only kind of "Regifting" the pastry she doesn't make. For a few dollars more.

Why beat her up? She has serious conviction(s)!
Hey! What happenend to my Social Security number?

"I think we need a new page in the DSM"
Posted by Snidget on 05-24-13 at 07:43 AM
Egad.

Talk about personality disorders on display.

I always worry about people who have that serious lack of self awareness. If you truly believe everything you do is the bestest of the best and bests all the other bests that have ever bested...

Chances are you so incompetent you can't even tell you are incompetent.

So any chance their rampant public paranoia and displays of insanity has kept them from getting a concealed carry permit?

Poor Gordon, poor poor Gordon. I never thought this would be the trope I would invoke.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakTheCutie

I mean usually the people on this show are dysfunctional or incompetent, but at least have some desire to make things work buried under all that. But these people.

I really think they expected Gordon, whose job it is on the show to find everything that isn't working and fix it, to show up and proclaim them perfect in every way and so amazing he would hand over all his Michelin stars to them.

"RE: I think we need a new page in the DSM"
Posted by kingfish on 05-24-13 at 08:30 AM
"You think you're tough? I'm the gangster here!"
"Probable weapons status."
Posted by Estee on 05-24-13 at 08:51 AM
On the one hand, she's a convicted felon and he's been banned from two different countries With Cause, so you'd think they'd both have some amount of difficulty in purchasing a firearm.

On the other, y'know, Arizona.

"RE: Probable weapons status."
Posted by kingfish on 05-24-13 at 09:08 AM
Or, on the other fin, she could just ask Holder for a spare AK47 to use for drug smuggling.

Better do it soon though, he's not going to last much longer.

"RE: Probable weapons status."
Posted by Snidget on 05-24-13 at 11:15 AM
So who do they blame for those legal problems? I mean they are perfection on earth, so pre-Yelp who were the haters just lying them into trouble and hacking their lives?
"RE: Probable weapons status."
Posted by Estee on 05-24-13 at 11:27 AM
Y'see, when you're that perfect, lesser beings have an instinctive psychic sense of it (provided to them free of charge by The Forces Of Evil) and will instantly feel the need to ruin your life.

Happens to me all the time.

"RE: Probable weapons status."
Posted by Snidget on 05-24-13 at 11:42 AM
But without that think of how few stories you would have to tell us.
"Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by Estee on 05-24-13 at 11:54 AM
Warning: not safe for work or PG-13. But then, neither is Amy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfD8L1euBuk

For those still looking for the original version, here's a current TouTube hosting of the ABC's Kitchen Nightmares episode. Also note the sheer number of secondary videos on the side scroll. Ye gawds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XjgHEctcy0#t=28m26s

Here's another look at the Facebook Meltdown.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever

Also, since tropes have been invoked, Amy and Samy are now all over the KN page. You might be able to guess at some of the tropes involved. Well, it's fame... sort of.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/KitchenNightmares?from=Main.RamsaysKitchenNightmares (and yes, they're all over the secondary pages too, especially the YMMV one.)

And Amy made it into Forbes! -- as a primer on what not to do with social media.

http://tinyurl.com/ntmm3p4

Watch her take that out of context should they go looking for investors. She was in Forbes, y'know. Do the people with cash need to know what the article was actually about? Nope.

By the way, it turns out they are in violation of Arizona law: it's illegal to confiscate a server's tips. There's actually a petition up on change.org, asking the Department Of Labor to go after them on this.

I think the word we need here is firestorm.

"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-24-13 at 12:31 PM
I watched the episode when it was first broadcast - I knew they were crazy but I never thought it would blow up to this.
"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by Estee on 05-24-13 at 12:51 PM
It's not just that they're insane: they're memetically insane.

And -- I don't think anyone expected this much to come out. Every time you peel away a layer, there's a fresh level of rot stinking underneath. It's the delusion that keeps on giving.

"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by Starshine on 05-24-13 at 03:02 PM
To be honest it didn't strike me as any worse that the place in Nashville that insisted that the locals didn't know Cajun food, and took all of Gordon's changes out the second he left.
"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 05-24-13 at 03:24 PM
The difference is that the place in Nashville gave the pretense of going along with the changes until he left - Amy/Samy were openly hostile at the slightest suggestion there was anything wrong and they were openly stealing from their employees. Plus there's that Internet sparring that took this to a much bigger level beyond anything than the Nashville folks did. If Amy/Samy shut up and didn't engage anyone online, we'd have forgotten all about that episode by now.
"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by Snidget on 05-24-13 at 04:35 PM
This is a softball interview from what I watched of it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVYOtvaea1Q

But apparently if you call the waitstaff bussers and runners and they don't really take orders, except when they do, and they con't communicate with the wife in the kitchen because no one can figure out how to talk to Amy but her husband...

they aren't supposed to get the tips anyway.

The only waitstaff is the husband.

Now if they aren't lying...o_0...they pay above minimum wage and so they may be skirting the law as the reason waitstaff gets tips is they don't get paid by the business but get some of their wages from the customers directly so they don't need minimum wage.


But...

Waitstaff in union restaurants, as few as they are, that make a lot more per hour than most servers get tips and get to keep them.

"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-25-13 at 11:47 AM
Legal or not, if I leave a tip, I'm leaving it for the person I believed was my server. If I knew it was going to the owner of the establishment, I wouldn't leave any.
"RE: Let's get animated! (and the full episode)"
Posted by Sunny_Bunny on 05-27-13 at 04:25 PM
Amen! The tip goes to the person who took my order, brought me my food and brought me stuff if I asked for it. Why would I tip the crazy guy standing behind a counter keeping his equally crazy wife happy?
"Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by Snidget on 05-30-13 at 11:10 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/business/2013/05/amys-baking-company-kicks-us-out.html?page=3

Martini with flies, what, that isn't the newest bestest trend ever and anyone who complains is just an idiot?

"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by kidflash212 on 05-30-13 at 12:22 PM
I'm going to start selling "I got kicked out of Amy's Baking Company" T-shirts. I'm going to be a millionaire!
"Completely serious."
Posted by Estee on 05-30-13 at 01:10 PM
Get that to one of the Internet shirt-printing companies now and get your stamp on it before anyone steals it. That's not a million-dollar idea, but if you move fast enough, I can see you clearing a thousand dollars before the craze wears off.
"Completely un-serious."
Posted by kingfish on 05-30-13 at 02:15 PM
LAST EDITED ON 05-30-13 AT 02:16 PM (EST)


Sorry. Too late. Snooze, you lose.

Now if you want one, contact //http:KingfishTees.

A $49.99 value, and if you say Kingfish is a studly handsome yet self-effacing man, you can have it for $19.99.

But wait, that's not all! If you respond in the next 30 minutes, we'll double the offer. Making this an unbelievable offer of 2 Tees for $19.99.

But we're not finished yet!. During this special promotional period, each will be fin printed by non-other than Kingfish's minion himself, in person.

"Warning: Kingfish"
Posted by foonermints on 05-31-13 at 00:32 AM
This is not a retail space. Please stop pedaling your Bangladeshi wife-beaters. The have holes! I found three at least in mine.


Plus they attract flies. AND fingerprints on otherwise good chocolate mousse.
btw: That credit card number? It came from Nigeria.

"RE: Warning: Kingfish"
Posted by kingfish on 05-31-13 at 08:21 AM
Bullet holes. I forgot to mention that bullet holed Tees are an added bonus. The bloody ones are extra.
"RE: Warning: Kingfish"
Posted by suzzee on 06-02-13 at 10:01 AM
That did it, I now have to clean the screen. Thanks it was totally your fault that I laughed. Fish & Fooner, a screen spraying in two posts. I'm going to blog, tweet and get my hair done for my Forbes shoot.


I should be watched....closely.

"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by Sunny_Bunny on 05-31-13 at 00:19 AM
I'd like to offer this as a second option-

"I went to Amy's Bakery and all I got was charged for a non existent pizza."


"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by tribephyl on 06-02-13 at 01:51 AM
That is definitely the thought of an entrepreneur.
The prospect of seeing how horrifying an experience you can actually have at a restaurant is now the pull for going out of your way to dine at Amy's.
They had a similar themed restaurant in SanFran when I was growing up there.
You went because the servers called you degenrates upon greeting. When taking your order they would OFTEN change your mind for you, or decide what you're going to eat for you.
Your food, when it came, was presented with your server's thumb planted within. They would pull their thumb out, suck it and claim "yup, that's warm enough for the baby". Etc.
They would even belittle customers for not spending enough money to be there.
People ate it up.
Lines out the door and down the street.
Literally throwing money at the owners and running out crying. LIT.ER.AL.LY.

NEW Amy's Tagline: "You don't like it?! Then don't phvcking eat here! I dare you! You phvcking pv55ies! I dare you to NOT eat here. I'll kick you out if you try. You stupid pice of cheet."

They will be coming in droves donating millions to these people for years.

No press is bad press.

"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by Starshine on 06-02-13 at 03:05 AM
Never had a restaurant that I know of like that over here, but you bring back fond memories of a Chinese restaurant on Wardour Street called Wong Kei’s (pronounced “wonky’s”)

Rude waiters, very loud, if you asked for a fork or spoon you needed to have the catching skills of Jonty Rhodes as they chucked it at you, I remember once when I was eating alone on the ground floor that they threw someone out for asking for a menu, but the food was very fresh, very cheap and well above par, when I used to go, back in the mid '90s I would have a big bowl of Wonton noodle soup and a big bowl of congee or beef in black bean sauce with ho fun, or roast duck with egg fried rice for under a fiver, not bad at all, and I couldn't eat for the rest of the day!

Happy memories!

OTOH Fawlty Towers was apparently based on a real hotelier


Maybe I am used to Hong Kong style Chinese food (despite all of these restaurants promising me that they are cooking Szechuan or Peking) but I have never really got on with Chinese food outside of UK/NL it always tastes very odd to me.

"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by Snidget on 06-02-13 at 08:17 AM
Hard to know if the food is a different region of China or you are just eating Chinese food adapted for UK tastes. They do seem to adapt their food and flavors to local tastes. After all some of the things we think are Chinese food here are American inventions in a Chinese style that we like to eat so they all cook it for us. I've noticed Chinese food varies from region to region in the USA. More deep fried stuff with hot sauce in the south than I ever saw in the Midwest.
"RE: Would you like flies with that?"
Posted by kingfish on 06-02-13 at 08:53 AM
Ummmm...deep fried stuff!
"I Want"
Posted by foonermints on 06-03-13 at 08:53 PM
to find out more about this "beef in black bean sauce" with Ho Fun.


Handcrafted by RollDdice
Sounds kinky!

"RE: I Want"
Posted by kingfish on 06-03-13 at 10:12 PM
I just want to know the Fun Ho.

(And it's your turn to buy Suzzee screen wipes).

"RE: I Want"
Posted by foonermints on 06-03-13 at 10:20 PM
The fun ones are usually over $100 a plate.

Where does one buy Sharkie wipes?

"Rainy Days Caffe"
Posted by dabo on 08-07-13 at 01:51 PM
People just don't get it.

http://www.kcci.com/Cafe-owner-faces-mom-backlash-after-crumby-Facebook-post/-/9357770/21355066/-/15k2dqx/-/index.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/washington-state-coffee-shop-draws-backlash-kicking-messy-kids-article-1.1419200


"He's going back to try again."
Posted by Estee on 04-02-14 at 00:25 AM
April 11th. Two hours. Gear up the t-shirts while there's still time.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Kitchen-Nightmares-Amys-Baking-Company-1079946.aspx

I waited until April 2nd hit so there would be a chance you'd believe me.

I understand being this desperate for ratings. I can even believe they're this desperate for attention, stupid enough to believe it'll all work out this time, and no more capable of seeing it coming. I'm just not sure how they're still open...

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by kingfish on 04-02-14 at 09:09 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-02-14 AT 09:11 AM (EST)

I hate to admit this but I will record that. I pretty much expect it to be anticlimactic, but it might also be another train wreck and I have to watch.

Will Amy get her comeuppance? Will the audience get satisfaction in her humiliation? Will Amy order out just to fool Ramsey? And will Ramsey's forehead vein finally explode? This I gotta see.

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by Estee on 04-02-14 at 11:24 AM
Bring alcohol.

...no. Wait. I can't encourage drinking as a means of dealing with problems, even when that source of pain is Amy.

Bring hard drugs.

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 04-02-14 at 04:37 PM
Absolutely will be recording this (going out of town that weekend)! We need to create a drinking game for this show - catch words like "that little..." or "haters" or "Yelpers" or the number of eye rolls every time Gordon addresses Amy directly. We also need to set an over/under on the number of times Samy threatens to insert his fist up a customer's azz.

Two hours? I'll set the over/under number of deaths at 3,000 from the drinking game.

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by snidget on 04-03-14 at 07:56 PM
Not sure if you should use Yelpers, Bullies, and Trolls in the drinking game. Unless you really want to see your liver punch a hole in your abdominal wall and escape.

The link I posted says they have their own army now. *twitch*

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 04-03-14 at 08:23 PM
Yeah there were some rumblings that it had to do with a court action at the time, but I haven't heard anything further about this.

But, interestingly, the February original date was for 1 hour (had it set up on my PVR) but this new date is for two hours. Looks like they had some fresh new material to work with and decided to stretch it out over an extra hour.

And? A Kitchen Nightmares drinking game with a bonus Amy's Baking Co. section. Not enough, and I fully expect a bona fide drinking game rubric to come out by the time the episode airs next week.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DrinkingGame/KitchenNightmares

"Better drinking game!"
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 04-03-14 at 08:29 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-03-14 AT 08:32 PM (EST)

Found a better one... scroll down for a special section for Amy's Baking Co. which is still quite limited but enough to put you into a coma.

Note: Typical GR language in the memes.

http://rukusan.com/blog/2014/03/the-kitchen-nightmares-drinking-game/

ETA: there's also a bonus yellow rubber ducky just for Snidget at the top of the website!

"Oh the hilarity!"
Posted by moonbaby on 04-02-14 at 02:05 PM
Who WOULDN'T watch?
"Bonus trope"
Posted by Estee on 04-02-14 at 04:49 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CringeComedy

And if you live in that area, Lock The Doors Comedy added to What's The Evacuation Route? Comedy.

If they learned anything...

...yeah. There's a line between hope and delusion. I think I just spotted the border.

(Newsome? Don't.)

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by snidget on 04-02-14 at 07:51 PM
So, the producer/director that finally gets Gordon's head to Draco on film gets how big a bonus?


Tribe's Capital Retrieval and Tattoo Parlor

I'm beginning to thing he's the world's biggest masochist.

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by PagongRatEater on 04-03-14 at 00:51 AM
I had heard that this had been cancelled and ABC pulled out. Is it back on the docket?


A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by Estee on 04-03-14 at 07:10 AM
You think a reality show contract allows participants to decide what airs? Really?

As far as I can tell, it's still on. It looks like the episode was filmed at the end of January -- shortly after Samy accused Gordon of sexually harassing Amy. Oh, and he now claims he threw Gordon out the first time. He's very proud to have shut down production.

(I found that on Newsmax. I have to shoot my computer now.)

Also, the ABC employee contract came out. The one with a $250 fine for not working a surprise weekend shift. Pay the bosses. And when they fire you, you're not allowed to take another food service job in a fifty-mile radius. Not that you worked in food service with them. Now hand over your tips.

And there are now I Survived Amy's Baking Company t-shirts. They make them.

Anyone weeping yet?

"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by snidget on 04-03-14 at 07:50 PM
Sounds like maybe it was supposed to air a couple of months back.

http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/dining/articles/20140224amys-baking-company-tv-appearances-postponed-dr-phil-kitchen-nightmares.html

But the DVR has the KN on April 11, not sure about the Dr. Phil.

I dunno, is that how long it takes for network lawyers to stop laughing?


Tribe's Capital Retrieval and Prison Services.

"Confirmed April 11th"
Posted by Estee on 04-03-14 at 08:57 PM
FOX just ran a promo during HK.
"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by PepeLePew13 on 04-03-14 at 10:09 PM
Their episode on Dr. Phil is on April 9th.
"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by Estee on 04-03-14 at 10:20 PM
I hope they break him.
"RE: He's going back to try again."
Posted by snidget on 04-04-14 at 09:56 PM
What it is about that level of delusion that makes me need to watch, even if I have to see Dr. Phil as part of the deal.

*off to set DVR*

"How do they do it?"
Posted by kingfish on 04-04-14 at 09:19 AM
LAST EDITED ON 04-05-14 AT 10:56 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 04-04-14 AT 09:23 AM (EST)

This has been asked before, so by now it's largely rhetorical. But it’s still an enigma. To me.

Just how do they stay in business? Are notoriety, lying, assaulting customers, bad food, and slave driving the staff really the ingredients of a successful business model?

Is appearing on national TV to demonstrate just how bad a restaurant what it takes?

Can they possibly be catering to the actual tastes of people in Scottsdale?

My mother was an entertainment columnist for a local newspaper where I grew up, and would write reviews on local restaurants. She visited one place and wrote a gently negative review (she was a gentle person), and the place closed within two months. She assumed (probably correctly) that her review contributed to their failure, and she felt very bad about that. I mean, if you write an honest review you have to stick to your guns, but still, she felt bad.

So, if in the real world all it takes to kill a restaurant's business is a bad review in a local podunk rag, how do Amy and Semy manage to stay open with their sins exposed for the world to see?

Self-delusion and rewriting history might be why they would entertain the notion of inviting Gordon back, or appearing on Dr. Phil. but they can’t be why they are still in business.

BTW, my money is on them walking off the set during the Dr. Phil interview. And how about the ratings for the Judge Judy show if she could get them in her court? You don’t lie to Judge Judy, no sir! Ma’am!

"RE: How do they do it?"
Posted by snidget on 04-04-14 at 10:06 PM
You know, if they really want to make a million that would be how to do it.

Teach the sane and competent how to game the system to get that kind of success.

I'm sure there is some banker that is somehow got things rigged up so they make a ton of money by pouring untold wealth into some business that should never be able to stay open. Probably need to have insane business owners because anyone sane would close up shop when the books make that little sense.

"RE: How do they do it?"
Posted by kingfish on 04-05-14 at 10:54 AM
A lot of insanity has to be part of the explanation. Even much more than is exposed. <my mind just got boggled>.
"OMH!"
Posted by dabo on 04-09-14 at 02:16 PM
they branched out to dr. phil today!

http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/2176

dumdums

"RE: OMH!"
Posted by kingfish on 04-09-14 at 03:19 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-14 AT 03:19 PM (EST)

"People have been saying the most disgusting, vile, horrific things to us," Amy claims."

She continues, "Someone else actually wrote, 'If I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden and the owner of Amy's Baking Company, and I had two bullets, I would shoot Amy twice."

I think that sums up my feelings.

I might line them up with the hope of maybe getting Hitler and Bin Laden after passing through Amy, but they would just be a fringe benefits.

"East Coast Spoiler Thread?"
Posted by Estee on 04-09-14 at 04:31 PM
Should we? Because the Dr. Fullofhimself appearance is really coming across as preemptive damage control -- and no matter what the two will insist until the end of their fame time, you can't film what didn't happen.
"RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?"
Posted by snidget on 04-09-14 at 06:47 PM
LAST EDITED ON 04-09-14 AT 06:48 PM (EST)

Partially pre-empted here for the Fort Hood shooting.

Dr. Phil shot them cursing up a storm, but oh but everyone does that when they attack back.

And I dunno why they think escalating the situation, even if you were provoked, makes it better or will make it stop.

Uh oh, one of the reviewers did agree to come on the show...I usually only hide behind the couch and watch from between my fingers for the flying monkeys.

"RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?"
Posted by Estee on 04-09-14 at 07:45 PM
I meant for Friday. I can't ask anyone to voluntarily withstand Dr. Fraud.

But thanks for trying.

Did they serve the audience free samples? If so, who made them? Did they keep all server tips?

And given their demonstrated dubious understanding of the law, why haven't they used FOX for slander and misrepresentation yet?

"RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?"
Posted by dabo on 04-09-14 at 09:20 PM
They fed the night shift and won the stamp of approval from everyone who didn't eat any of it.

true story

"RE: East Coast Spoiler Thread?"
Posted by snidget on 04-09-14 at 10:10 PM
Can't risk the judge putting a gag order on them until the trial...