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"Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Not much news yet, still breaking, just heard it on the radio.

*frets*

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 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... mrc 04-15-13 1
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-15-13 2
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... dabo 04-15-13 3
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... bondt007 04-15-13 4
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... jbug 04-15-13 5
 Terrible moonbaby 04-15-13 6
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Estee 04-15-13 7
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... cahaya 04-15-13 11
 A third explosion? cahaya 04-15-13 8
   RE: A third explosion? dabo 04-15-13 9
       RE: A third explosion? cahaya 04-15-13 12
   RE: A third explosion? Estee 04-15-13 10
       RE: A third explosion? cahaya 04-15-13 13
           RE: A third explosion? PepeLePew13 04-15-13 15
           RE: A third explosion? AyaK 04-15-13 16
               RE: A third explosion? cahaya 04-15-13 17
                   RE: A third explosion? HobbsofMI 04-15-13 22
       RE: A third explosion? Snidget 04-15-13 14
 Holy crap moonbaby 04-15-13 18
   RE: Holy crap dabo 04-15-13 19
       RE: Holy crap cahaya 04-15-13 20
           RE: Holy crap Estee 04-15-13 27
   RE: Holy crap HobbsofMI 04-15-13 23
       RE: Holy crap Estee 04-15-13 25
           RE: Holy crap Snidget 04-16-13 44
               RE: Holy crap Estee 04-16-13 45
                   RE: Holy crap PepeLePew13 04-16-13 55
 A message posted by Malcolm (Surviv... PepeLePew13 04-15-13 21
   RE: A message posted by Malcolm (Su... HobbsofMI 04-15-13 24
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... dabo 04-15-13 26
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... PepeLePew13 04-15-13 28
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... kingfish 04-15-13 29
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... PepeLePew13 04-15-13 30
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... AyaK 04-15-13 32
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... PepeLePew13 04-15-13 33
                   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... AyaK 04-15-13 36
                       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-16-13 56
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... dabo 04-15-13 31
 Inevitable, Phase #1. Estee 04-15-13 34
   RE: Inevitable, Phase #1. Snidget 04-15-13 35
       RE: Inevitable, Phase #1. AyaK 04-15-13 37
           We're going off on a tangent here dabo 04-16-13 38
               RE: We're going off on a tangent he... Estee 04-16-13 47
           Oh, just thought of this dabo 04-16-13 39
   Let me guess Phase #2 Snidget 04-16-13 64
       RE: Let me guess Phase #2 Estee 04-16-13 66
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Dakota 04-16-13 40
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... dabo 04-16-13 41
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-16-13 42
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-16-13 43
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Estee 04-16-13 46
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-16-13 57
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... kingfish 04-16-13 51
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Estee 04-16-13 54
                   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... kingfish 04-16-13 67
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-16-13 58
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Max Headroom 04-16-13 49
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... kingfish 04-16-13 52
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-16-13 60
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... PepeLePew13 04-16-13 61
                   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... HobbsofMI 04-17-13 80
                       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... CTgirl 04-17-13 81
 The runner we saw got knocked down,... Snidget 04-16-13 48
   RE: The runner we saw got knocked d... kingfish 04-16-13 53
 You can't lock down 26.2 miles. Estee 04-16-13 50
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... samboohoo 04-16-13 59
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-16-13 62
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Starshine 04-16-13 63
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-16-13 65
       Pipe pressure cahaya 04-16-13 75
           RE: Pipe pressure foonermints 04-17-13 79
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... PepeLePew13 04-16-13 68
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... dabo 04-16-13 69
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Estee 04-16-13 70
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... mrc 04-16-13 71
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... cahaya 04-16-13 72
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-16-13 73
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... cahaya 04-16-13 74
           RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-16-13 76
               RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... cahaya 04-16-13 77
 Fatalities dabo 04-16-13 78
   RE: Fatalities PepeLePew13 04-17-13 82
       RE: Fatalities dabo 04-17-13 97
   RE: Fatalities dabo 04-19-13 129
 Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Ide... HobbsofMI 04-17-13 83
   CNN Suspect Arrested HobbsofMI 04-17-13 84
       Schoedinger's Suspect Snidget 04-17-13 89
           RE: Schoedinger's Suspect cahaya 04-17-13 91
   RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect... Estee 04-17-13 85
       RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect... dabo 04-17-13 86
           RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect... Estee 04-17-13 87
           RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect... HobbsofMI 04-17-13 88
               CNN now saying they are wrong...... HobbsofMI 04-17-13 90
                   RE: CNN now saying they are wrong..... pinksparkleguitar 04-17-13 92
                       RE: CNN now saying they are wrong..... Snidget 04-17-13 93
                           RE: CNN now saying they are wrong..... pinksparkleguitar 04-17-13 94
                               RE: CNN now saying they are wrong..... dabo 04-17-13 95
                                   RE: CNN now saying they are wrong..... pinksparkleguitar 04-17-13 96
 Where things stand dabo 04-17-13 98
   RE: Where things stand cahaya 04-18-13 99
 Kaboom! foonermints 04-18-13 100
   RE: Kaboom! cahaya 04-18-13 105
   RE: Kaboom! cahaya 04-20-13 139
 FBI 101 cahaya 04-18-13 101
 Suspects (Photos) dabo 04-18-13 102
   Hmmm kidflash212 04-18-13 103
       RE: Hmmm dabo 04-18-13 104
           RE: Hmmm cahaya 04-18-13 106
           RE: Hmmm Snidget 04-18-13 107
 Reports of Suspect in Custody IceCat 04-19-13 108
   It was like a war-zone... IceCat 04-19-13 109
       It *was* like a war-zone... IceCat 04-19-13 116
   Are there three of them? IceCat 04-19-13 110
       RE: Are there three of them? HobbsofMI 04-19-13 111
 Sunil Tripathi? IceCat 04-19-13 112
   RE: Sunil Tripathi? PepeLePew13 04-19-13 113
       RE: Sunil Tripathi? HobbsofMI 04-19-13 114
   Tsarnaev Brothers IceCat 04-19-13 115
       Tamerlan & Dzhokhar Tsarnaev IceCat 04-19-13 117
           Interesting Reading IceCat 04-19-13 119
               RE: Interesting Reading HobbsofMI 04-19-13 121
       RE: Tsarnaev Brothers kingfish 04-19-13 118
 Colonoscopy Photo IceCat 04-19-13 120
   RE: Colonoscopy Photo Molaholic 04-19-13 124
       RE: Colonoscopy Photo kingfish 04-19-13 125
 Some donut jokes write themselves Snidget 04-19-13 122
   RE: Some donut jokes write themselv... Dakota 04-19-13 126
 4/19/1776 dabo 04-19-13 123
 RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Dakota 04-19-13 127
   RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Snidget 04-19-13 128
       RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon?... Dakota 04-19-13 130
 Engagement? cahaya 04-19-13 131
   RE: Engagement? dabo 04-19-13 132
       RE: Engagement? Snidget 04-19-13 133
           RE: Engagement? dabo 04-19-13 135
       RE: Engagement? cahaya 04-19-13 137
 GOT HIM PepeLePew13 04-19-13 134
   It is going to be a long long time Snidget 04-19-13 136
   RE: GOT HIM Puffy 04-19-13 138
 Miranda Rights question Snidget 04-20-13 140
   RE: Miranda Rights question cahaya 04-20-13 153
   RE: Miranda Rights question dabo 04-21-13 158
 Sibiling impact. Estee 04-20-13 141
   RE: Sibiling impact. Snidget 04-20-13 142
       RE: Sibiling impact. cahaya 04-20-13 143
       RE: Sibiling impact. kingfish 04-20-13 144
           RE: Sibiling impact. Snidget 04-20-13 145
   RE: Sibiling impact. PepeLePew13 04-20-13 149
       RE: Sibiling impact. Estee 04-20-13 151
 Religious faction identified. Estee 04-20-13 146
   RE: Religious faction identified. bondt007 04-20-13 147
       RE: Religious faction identified. Estee 04-20-13 148
           RE: Religious faction identified. bondt007 04-20-13 154
   RE: Religious faction identified. Dakota 04-20-13 150
   RE: Religious faction identified. cahaya 04-20-13 152
   RE: Religious faction identified. bondt007 04-21-13 157
 Closed Captioning Fail Snidget 04-20-13 155
   RE: Closed Captioning Fail cahaya 04-20-13 156
 Right on cue Snidget 04-22-13 159
   RE: Right on cue kidflash212 04-22-13 160
 More Fallout dabo 04-24-13 161
 why not... bondt007 04-30-13 162
   RE: why not... Estee 04-30-13 163
   RE: why not... HobbsofMI 05-01-13 164
 More Arrests dabo 05-01-13 165
   RE: More Arrests Snidget 05-01-13 166
       And the dragnet continues... cahaya 05-01-13 167
 The sequel? cahaya 05-13-13 168
   RE: The sequel? kidflash212 05-14-13 169
       RE: The sequel? kingfish 05-14-13 170
           RE: The sequel? cahaya 05-14-13 171
               RE: The sequel? kingfish 05-15-13 172
 FBI shoot one of the people they ar... Snidget 05-22-13 173
   RE: FBI shoot one of the people the... Estee 05-22-13 174
       RE: FBI shoot one of the people the... Snidget 05-22-13 175
   RE: FBI shoot one of the people the... dabo 05-22-13 176
       RE: FBI shoot one of the people the... Snidget 05-22-13 177
   RE: FBI shoot one of the people the... dabo 05-22-13 178
 Terrorism in London kidflash212 05-23-13 179
   RE: Terrorism in London Snidget 05-23-13 180

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04-15-13, 03:28 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
The footage is incredible. I have friends who have run this marathon, but thankfully none I know of this year.

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2. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I follow Peter Sagal on twitter and he tweeted, he had just finished with the blind friend he was leading and was just past the finish line when it went off. Bad enough to be in that chaos when you can see. He reported that they were fine, but has to be scary to be that close.
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3. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-explosions/index.html

At least there aren't any deaths being reported as yet. That seems very unlikely, but you would think there would be some mention that no deaths have been reported as yet.

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04-15-13, 04:03 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Three reported dead now.

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5. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-13 AT 04:07 PM (EST)

My niece who moved to Boston area was working for John Hancock up until just a few weeks ago. They are a major sponsor and close so their employees can volunteer to help at the race.
She changed jobs just a few weeks ago.
She's trying to get in touch with some of her friends from her JH job.

ETA: just heard; 2 dead ; over 20 injured

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I feel sick. Read unconfirmed deaths reported. Accident or attack, have they decided yet?
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04-15-13, 04:13 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I'm waiting for follow-up explosions.

The following is not intended as disrespect to the dead and their families: as a terrorist attack, this would be incompetent. If this was deliberate (and I'll leave a tiny chance of gas explosion or the like on the board for now), then those responsible could have conceivably planted bigger charges, timed things to get more people, and wouldn't you place this near the starting line for maximum carnage, setting it off just after the race began? But if you mainly wanted to get police, medical, and fire responders, you'd start with a relatively small charge, get everyone in the area, and then trigger the major explosion.

I'm dearly hoping I'm wrong and this is simple incompetence -- or accident. And I'm sure someone else has thought of this -- dozens of them, some on the scene. But until they clear the zone...

By the way, do not read any commentary sections on this story. The trolls are out in force and warpainting their faces with innocent blood.

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11. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Also, no disrespect intended for those who died and suffered serious injuries in considerable harm.

My initial guess (based on past history) is that this is yet another home-grown wacko wannabe who figured out how to make improvised explosive devices (IED's are not rocket science) but couldn't come up with the optimal strategy to kill, harm and shock, not that it really mattered except to make something happen which would grab the national and international news. After all, this is the Boston Marathon.

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8. "A third explosion?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-13 AT 05:17 PM (EST)

BOSTON (AP) — Boston police say there's been a third explosion in the city, following two blasts near the finish line of the Boston Marathon that killed two people and injured many others.

Police Commissioner Edward Davis says authorities aren't certain that the explosion at the JFK Library was related to the other blasts, but they're treating them as if they are.

David says there are no injuries stemming from the third explosion.

He urged people to stay indoors and not congregate in large groups.

Update: Two people died and 28 are being treated in hospitals from the first (apparently two) explosions, with reports of another (possibly two) unexploded device(s) found.

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04-15-13, 05:50 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: A third explosion?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-13 AT 05:50 PM (EST)

This is now being reported as a fire and unrelated to the explosions.

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12. "RE: A third explosion?"
An completely unrelated incident could be construed as related, and apparently this is not related, but the facts remain to be seen. The Library is distant from the Boston Marathon scene which was the focus of the bombings and this could well be unrelated. If this was the act of a single person, a JFK Library bombing would seem spurious.
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04-15-13, 05:51 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: A third explosion?"
The odds of a single person being responsible are starting to drop. CNN claims the 'JFK Library incident' is 'fire-related', whatever that truly means, but that typically indicates someone wants the media to lean towards coincidence -- whether 'tis or not. The Boston Globe says over one hundred people are injured. Also that the Red Sox have identified the persons responsible and are demanding the immediate arrests of Bobby Valentine and Carl Crawford.

(Note that the BoSox played their traditional noon game. Plant a bomb just outside the gates, set off after the last out, and things could have been so much worse.)

In the land of the Suspicious Backpack, we now have a field day in progress: many runners carry small ones when they're on the marathon course and most of them dropped the things when they ran for their lives. There are Suspicious Backpacks everywhere. Watch your step.

{dark}Well, they're attacking an event which non-citizens always win and the life records of a Democrat in the home of the original tea party on Patriots Day: anyone want to take a guess?{/dark}

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13. "RE: A third explosion?"
This bombing smacks of a domestic lone wolf, like almost all of these in the past, but we'll see, pending more facts. It's almost certain that it's not Al-Queda, or else the results would have been much different.
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15. "RE: A third explosion?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-13 AT 06:24 PM (EST)

It's now being classified as a terrorist attack. Toll is up to 107 injured at the moment.

I hope AyaK is not in harm's way as his office is not too far from Copley Square.

ETA - Great to see that you are in no harm, AyaK.

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04-15-13, 06:22 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: A third explosion?"
I agree. The bombs were in optimal places, but two didn't go off, and the other two did damage, but not as much as they cold have in those positions.

I can't make any jokes about this. It's too close to home.

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17. "RE: A third explosion?"
Indeed, it is no joke, not with the harm and suffering that comes from it, participants, family and friends alike.
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22. "RE: A third explosion?"
No jokes here either but a lot of idiots who are trying to make it political and place fault.


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14. "RE: A third explosion?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-15-13 AT 06:31 PM (EST)

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Yep, the course is going to be the land of suspicious backpacks probably for the next several days.

For some reason, this feels home grown, but we will see.

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18. "Holy crap"
Footage is awful, bringing me to tears again and again. They were bombs placed in trash cans, and there was another that did not explode.

I'm praying for everyone in Boston and I hope these f*krs are caught and caught quickly.

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19. "RE: Holy crap"
From what I heard there was originally an even more horrific video, very bloody, but that's no longer being shown.
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20. "RE: Holy crap"
Fortunately, most of those who were hurt weren't hurt very seriously. One who left this world was an eight-year old boy, with 130 patients in the hospitals, some of whom are in critical condition.

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27. "RE: Holy crap"
Currently at three dead, one hundred and forty-one wounded, with twenty-five in serious condition and seventeen critical. CNN has many of the wounds reported as inflicted by high-velocity ball bearings -- another sign of a less-than-completely-expert device, or at least someone working around suspicious purchases.

A third grader dead. Behold the endless courage of our assailants.

The claimant silence is starting to become the dominant background sound. No one wants to be saluted for this? Very strange.

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23. "RE: Holy crap"
They have a person of interest at one of the hospitals.


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25. "RE: Holy crap"
From CNN:

"Investigators warned police to be on the lookout for a "darker-skinned or black male" with a possible foreign accent in connection with the attack, according to a law enforcement advisory obtained by CNN. The man was seen with a black backpack and sweatshirt and was trying to get into a restricted area about five minutes before the first explosion, the lookout notice states.

Also, a Saudi national with a leg wound was under guard at a Boston hospital in connection with the bombings, but investigators cannot say he is involved at this time and he is not in custody, a law enforcement official said Monday evening."

The later sounds a little too much like a visiting spectator or participant (remember, the marathon draws from all over the world) who had the triple bad luck to be from Saudi Arabia, at the explosion site, and sighted by police after. Hopefully he's under guard from The Stupid: I fully expect some resident idiot to try a retaliatory attack on a Bostonian tonight.

The former has a slight chance of panning out, but assumes the attacker was planting the explosives up through the last minute and/or had to detonate from extremely short range.

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44. "RE: Holy crap"
The person questioned in the hospital was a Saudi national, who was report­edly tackled and held by a ­bystander after he was seen running from near the scene of the explosion, said a law enforce­ment source who spoke with someone involved in the FBI’s investigation.

The Saudi man, believed to be a university student in ­Boston, is cooperating with the FBI and told agents that he was not involved in the explosions, and that he ran only because he was frightened. Investigators did not characterize the man as a suspect. No one had been ­arrested or charged by late Monday night.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/15/three-killed-more-than-injured-marathon-blast/QQOiYNU2n1vt1Xul3BXVsL/story.html

So far sounds like just in the wrong place at the wrong time like most of the people in the area.

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45. "RE: Holy crap"
Someone tell the @#$% Post: they've got the poor man front-paged.
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55. "RE: Holy crap"
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Even now, with the truth apparently out there in multiple places, the Post still has this guy's roommate on the cover:

http://www.nypost.com/

Sickening, trashy journalism.

ETA: A WaPo writer has a headline saying, "NY Post better have good sources."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/04/15/boston-explosions-new-york-post-better-have-good-sources/

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21. "A message posted by Malcolm (Survivor)"
Copying it to here because I thought his message was right on point:

A lot of people are cursing the world as 'evil' today. Go watch the videos again. Look how many people immediately and with no concern for their own safety ran to help. Right now, the Red Cross is so overwhelmed with people trying to donate blood that they're having to turn them away. Of course they're {sic} are evil forces in the world, there always will be -- but today should reaffirm you're {sic} faith in people, not shake it.

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Thumbs up and Like!


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26. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
The toll keeps getting worse. Three dead (two at the scene). At least ten amputations. Horrible. Ball bearings being removed from victims, so these were Claymore type bombs. Good thing the explosives weren't any more powerful than they were.

A Saudi national with a leg injury is under guard at one of the hospitals. He's not in custody, though, so that may be for his protection.

Two unexploded devices found, these could be very important in tracking down the actual culpret(s).

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28. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
This is a shot of the bomb scene in normal times - on the left side might be the actual garbage can that was used for one of the bombs that most of us saw on the videos - I recognized the Starbucks from when I was in Boston last year and confirmed the location through the map outline on CNN:

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29. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
The tip of the arrow is on a mail box. The brown thing in the background behind the mail box might be a trash bin, though.
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30. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
There's about five or six of the exact same containers scattered around the same city block as seen on Maps. I'd say that is a garbage can more than a post office box (wouldn't they be blue?).
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32. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
That's a mail storage box. We still have office-to-office deliveries in Boston, and those brown boxes are actually locked and used by the letter carriers to hold mailbags so that they don't have to carry everything at once.
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33. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
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Whoops, thanks for the correction, kingfish/AyaK. Just seemed like there were a lot of these on the same street, so that's what I directed my focus onto.

ETA: Just saw it pointed out elsewhere - Boston has a number of metallic garbage/recycling cans that are side-by-side in one big container. That might be the metal thing we see on the right side of the picture above.

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36. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
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No. The garbage/recycling bins have advertising on them. I have to walk past one of them every day.

Edited to add: The metal thing on the right side of the picture of Starbucks is a computerized traffic light control box.

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56. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
They are now saying the bombs where not in trash cans and they have a restaurant video showing someone putting down a black backpack and walking away.

I'm sure that will change but that is what's being said now.


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31. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
The city probably put a lot of extra trash cans out on the route, especially the finish line.
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34. "Inevitable, Phase #1."
Hysterical call demanding ball bearings be turned into a controlled substance with regulated and government-tracked sales: check.
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35. "RE: Inevitable, Phase #1."
May I quote you when one of my gun buddies goes off on how no one ever demands controls on any other weapon but guns? He plays some fun games with stats to try to prove other things are really worse.

*dark*I just hope this was not somebody deciding the way to get those Newtown people to shut up about gun control was to bomb their mile of a marathon dedicated to them.

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37. "RE: Inevitable, Phase #1."
Although the bomber in Atlanta 1996 turned out to be an anti-abortion nutcase (Eric Rudolph), I don't believe there has been another similar incident from a right-wing person since then.
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38. "We're going off on a tangent here"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result. Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye.

October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.

September 11, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.

April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.

January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there.

April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported. On April 3, the FBI arrested 50-year-old Francis Grady on charges of "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services".

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47. "RE: We're going off on a tangent here"
Arizona's own Sheriff Fuhrer received an explosive package in the mail a few days ago: defused without harm. There's a chance we can file that under the librul column.
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64. "Let me guess Phase #2"
Outlaw pressure cookers.
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66. "RE: Let me guess Phase #2"
Well, there's the excuse Mayor Michael 'I was going to do it anyway' Bloomberg didn't need.

You had to hear his press conference. No matter what he said, it inevitably came out as one of two statements: 'I can't possibly leave office when the city clearly needs me so badly' and 'I've been looking for a reason to put cameras in all of your kitchens and charge fifteen percent of your income as a monitoring fee. And there it is!'

The Patriots Day Act.

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40. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
My prayers are with all who were directly involved in this. Last I heard there were a lot of critical injuries, so the death toll might go up.

I don't think this is a home grown attack. Home grown would have targeted a building, an organization, a group, not a random crowd. Guess we'll see.

Do we know if any RTVW people were there and if so, are they ok?

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41. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I wouldn't rule out home grown. Whoever planned this wanted media coverage and knew there would be film crews and photographers at that sight. They (he/she) wanted maximum media coverage.

Still, until a claim comes out for it, there is no knowing what agenda was behind this. A foreign terrorist agenda would have probably made a statement by now.

Personally, I think the whole thing is senseless, someone just wanted to make a big splash.

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42. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Mrs. Hobbs was saying why not the start line where there would be even more people? I'm waiting but I'm leaning home grown but there is a ton of idiots who are trying to blame Obama in the local paper comments.


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43. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Or if at the finish, why not when the winners were crossing and there would likely be live news coverage?
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46. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Let me know when they manage to explain how he personally set the bombs without being spotted or recorded in any way. With no statements from the usual suspects, I also think this is a native. (If it had been the President, it would then be a foreign organization.)

As noted above and below, there are a lot of better places and times along the course to maximize fatalities. Strategically, it's a strange choice for both.

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57. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
From running CC and knowing Maratoners it seems that you have a running bring your things, in a backpack, from the start to the end. Now the race does do this but it's a pain as I've been told so most people do it themselves with someone. So seeing someone walking around with multiple backpacks is not strange.

As for video, whoever did this knew the finish is covered by a lot of camera's so if they are looking for a major DAW and maybe not max kill zone....that would be a good spot.


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51. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
If things go as per his usualy MO, Obama supporters will blame Bush.

Seriously, I have yet to hear a claim from anybody that Obama is responsible, directly or indirectly. But, I haven't read the nut opinion pages of any or web site or newspaper.

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54. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I have. There's a reason I said not to go near the commentary sections. There are several.

Dubya blaming currently seems to be extinct.

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67. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Extinct since this morning, perhaps. Hopefully.

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58. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
There were a bunch on the radio today....and that was a Sports station that had to finally cut off anyone bringing up the bombings because it got out of control on both sides.


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49. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
My money's on a local/homegrown wacko. If a terrorist organization such as al Qaeda did this, they would've been crowing to the world about their great success for Allah. The silence points towards some local with a grudge.
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52. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I agree.

Also, as Hobbes' wife points out, a more professional approach would have been to plant bombs at the start where the confusion associated with the crowd of racers would have made it easier to plant the bombs, and the devastation would have been much greater. The finish line is a more dramatic setting perhaps, but it is more sparsely populated.

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60. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Plus why at the 4 hour mark....most of the racers where done and all that were left were charity runners and those in the highest age group.


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61. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
One theory floated out there relating to this was that the guy tried several times to get into the restricted area where all the finished runners, families and officials were. Right now, we have no way of knowing how many times he tried to get in or how long beforehand he did so, but he was last seen trying to get in about five minutes prior to the first explosion.
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80. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Actually I just got done talking to my marathoner friend and he said there are the contenders and then 2 other groups that are sent out 1/2 hr apart. So the main group would be coming in at the 4 hour mark or 3 1/2 hour to 4 hours mark which is 9 minutes a mile.


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81. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Yup - I read that the largest group of people cross the finish line 3-1/2 to 4-1/2 hours after the elite group starts the race and the bombs went off at the 4 hour mark.
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48. "The runner we saw got knocked down, he's OK"
And he makes me feel really unfit.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/10010376940318/78-year-old-runner-knocked-down-by-boston-blast/

78 year old guy running marathons?

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53. "RE: The runner we saw got knocked down, he's OK"
And his son describes him as "really fast"?

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50. "You can't lock down 26.2 miles."
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9176985/boston-marathon-explosion
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59. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Surprisingly, I've not been in a position to read/watch or fully catch up on any of this. I had to record this morning's news to be able to watch later.

Hoping this is not the case, but is it possible that this was staged to be small and look amateur in order to set up for something else bigger?


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62. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
There is one terror expert who says it he thinks it could be a trial run for something bigger, but that just seems like speculation at this point.
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63. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Probably not, terrorists tend to like using surprise and hitting big targets, now there has been an attack everyone is a little more on edge and triple checking everything, particularly with big events, I know the Met Police have/are talking to the London marathon organisers to check their security, so any attack is more likely to fail.
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65. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Although I've seen a couple of comments from Spokane that they wonder if the thwarted bombing of the MLK walk couldn't have been a dry run for this bombing. That was a pipe bomb in a backpack and also placed in a way that would have taken out of a lot of legs if it had gone off.
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75. "Pipe pressure"
A pipe bomb attempt, and now a pressure cooker bomb attempt. Who'd a thought that you could mix up a concoction with grandma's six-liter pressure cooker with nails and BB's and a bit of gunpowder with a kitchen stove clock ticking inside?

One explosives expert commented that if you can manage to make a homemade bomb like this and not blow yourself up, then you're not an amateur.

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79. "RE: Pipe pressure"
Not a SEAL, obviously. Good thing not a McVeigh, either.

*shudder*

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68. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Probably nothing more than a little rabble-rousing by the conspiracy-loving, tin foil-wearing crowd, but here it is...

Who's the dude on the roof as he seemingly didn't react as the bomb went off?

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69. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
LAST EDITED ON 04-16-13 AT 06:36 PM (EST)

It's certainly worth investigating, though I don't think it as suspicious as the tinfoil crowd would have it.

Two lines of speculation converge.

1. The culprit filmed the event from a safe vantage point.

2. The explosives were set off by remote control and the culprit needed a line of sight to pick his time.

I don't think either speculation is of much value. Why bother filming what would already be being filmed? The investigators should be able to figure out how the devices were triggered.

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70. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Why bother filming what would already be being filmed?

The bad television drama answer is 'trophy'.

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71. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Gawker has an answer that starts with "horses" and ends in "hit":

http://gawker.com/5994754/false-flags-and-roof-terrorists-your-guide-to-all-the-internet-horseshit

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72. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Maybe he (or she) was just up there copping a high or a work-time ciggie smoke on the rooftop, and then shroom-be-boom.
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73. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Well from what I learned on Mythbusters. At some distance you see the flash before you hear the bang/boom and feel shockwave. With the building in the way it may take until it bounces off the far side of the street and bounces back before you'd notice it.

But that isn't nearly as much fun. Do they have just the stills or do they have a whole video where you could see that 1/2 a second after this shot he/she/it does react?

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74. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
That's why I said "shroom-be-boom", first you see the cloud first at light speed and then only a second (more or less, depending on distance) afterward does the shock wave boom hit.
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76. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Yep, on of the Jamie Wants Big Boom I think they had to be like a mile or two away so like 5 seconds (like lightening/thunder) before you heard it. Very eerie to see the big explosion and have such a long delay.

I didn't know the technical term of Shroom-be-boom.

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77. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
In mathematical terms, it's the difference between the speed of light and the speed of sound in air.

What's scary about this is that apparently these bombs were concocted out of 6 liter pressure cookers, pellets and nails, and possibly a short "kitchen clock" timing device, with gunpowder (easily available to musket rifle enthusiasts) to make it blow. And then there's hydrogen peroxide and other simple chemicals available on the commercial market.

Whoever did this did their basic research on how to concoct a simple IED.

It's sad. So many people and families and friends were hurt, not because of a simple device, but because of the ill and misguided intent behind it. And it's not just here in the U.S.

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78. "Fatalities"
Martin Richard (8), Dorchester, Mass.

Krystle Campbell (29), Medford, Mass.

Chinese national, name withheld, graduate student at Boston University.

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82. "RE: Fatalities"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 12:11 PM (EST)


魯玲子 Lu Lingzi (23), Shenyang, China.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/04/lu-lingzis-journey-to-the-marathon.html

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97. "RE: Fatalities"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 04:03 PM (EST)

a Chinese national in her mid-twenties, who was attending graduate school at Boston University and majoring in statistics.

Lu Lingzi was a native of Shenyang, a city in northeastern China about a hundred miles from the North Korean border.

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129. "RE: Fatalities"
Officer (MIT) Sean Collier (26), Somerville, Mass.
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83. "Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Identified, Law Enforcement Source Tells CNN"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 01:38 PM (EST)

Heard this on the radio....looking for link.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html


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84. "CNN Suspect Arrested"
Looking for link: http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/17/us/boston-blasts/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


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89. "Schoedinger's Suspect"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 02:41 PM (EST)

Some say they have him some say they don't, at the moment, subject to change if anyone actually opens the box.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/boston-marathon-bombing-suspect-identified_n_3101865.html

CNN's report remains unconfirmed. The FBI's national press office says "we have not officially named anyone and we don't know where they're getting that information." Boston Police also declined to comment to HuffPost Crime, saying they don't know about the possible suspect.

There are also conflicting news reports. CBS and NBC reported prior to 2 p.m. ET that there was no suspect in custody, according to their unnamed sources.

The joys of constantly trying to have news, news cycle.

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91. "RE: Schoedinger's Suspect"
It's like Schrödinger's Suspect, arrested in one news box and not arrested in the other news box.

Quantum news.

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85. "RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Identified, Law Enforcement Source Tells CNN"
Here's hoping they've got the right person.

If so, they took this one alive.

Not for long...

Does Massachusetts have the death penalty? If not, how fast can we rewrite?

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86. "RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Identified, Law Enforcement Source Tells CNN"
The death penalty was abolished in Massachusetts in 1984.
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87. "RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Identified, Law Enforcement Source Tells CNN"
Probably about time to take another look at that.

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88. "RE: Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect Identified, Law Enforcement Source Tells CNN"
They'll make it a fed case like OK and then they'll have the death penalty.


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90. "CNN now saying they are wrong......"
There has been no arrest.


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92. "RE: CNN now saying they are wrong......"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 03:24 PM (EST)

I've been watching the live feed of wcvb in Boston, seems to be a little more reliable then checking other sources. They are still reporting there may or may not be a suspect on the way to the courthouse, the reporters sure haven't left the courthouse -

breaking news: Boston Courthouse evacuated, citing a 'code red', the highest level of warning. Reporters pushed to other side of road. Bomb threat?



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93. "RE: CNN now saying they are wrong......"
Yikes. Hopefully a false alarm.
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94. "RE: CNN now saying they are wrong......"
LAST EDITED ON 04-17-13 AT 03:24 PM (EST)

Brought in bomb sniffing dogs, police bomb squad unit, fire department. Might have been a person calling in a bomb threat because of the report that they had a suspect coming in soon.



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95. "RE: CNN now saying they are wrong......"
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2013/04/federal_courthouse_in_boston_evacuated

The federal courthouse has been evacuated and a "code red" has been declared. Police have moved everybody across the street.

The court, located in the city's Seaport district, was flooded with onlookers after a false report of an arrest made in the Marathon bombing case.

Rare case of the press accepting the blame.

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96. "RE: CNN now saying they are wrong......"
Conspiracy theorists already saying that it was a 'code red' set off by the courthouse itself, in order to get everybody away from the building and get "suspect" in without hoopla. There was one van that drove into a garage type opening in the building while everyone was evacuated.

Not my opinions, just quoting some others.

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98. "Where things stand"
at the moment.

http://news.msn.com/us/boston-bombing-what-we-know

10 Boston area hospitals treated more than 170 patients, at least 14 still in critical condition. Doctors expect all of their patients to survive.

Investigators have an image of a potential suspect but do not know his name.

The U.S. Marshals Service said the federal courthouse was evacuated due to a bomb threat. Workers returned to the courthouse later Wednesday afternoon.

A portion of Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston was also evacuated. According to the Boston Globe, an unattended car with gas cans inside was left at the valet entrance.

President Barack Obama and 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney are among those planning to attend a Boston interfaith healing service on Thursday.

No unexploded bombs were found on Monday, despite previous reports.

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99. "RE: Where things stand"
... despite previous reports.

The Media gets boinked.

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100. "Kaboom!"
Fooonermints: no control much outside of my own miserable life.
If it were easy, everybody would do it!
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105. "RE: Kaboom!"
In '60's language, you're a blast, man!


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139. "RE: Kaboom!"
From CNN:

"We used a robot to pull the tarp off the boat," David Procopio of the Massachusetts State Police said. "We were also watching him with a thermal imaging camera in our helicopter. He was weakened by blood loss -- injured last night most likely... "

They probably had one of your off-the-shelf (and-the-cuff) miniature drones flying around too, but they're not allowed to talk about it.

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101. "FBI 101"
Seeking information on these two dudes...

Wolf pack.

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102. "Suspects (Photos)"
Taken from surveilance videos.

http://news.msn.com/us/boston-marathon-bombing-suspects


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103. "Hmmm"
Those are two totally different men from the two pictured on the front page of today's NY Post.
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104. "RE: Hmmm"
RAE

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/04/18/new-york-post-builds-bridge-between-rumor-and-media/

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106. "RE: Hmmm"
What's in your bagses, Bagginses?
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107. "RE: Hmmm"
Pick a photo, any photo, hey as long as someone as being blamed and we printed it first.

*sigh*

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108. "Reports of Suspect in Custody"

... the other one escaped after a firefight with police. These might be the real ones.

http://www.ksbw.com/news/Reports-One-Boston-Marathon-suspect-in-custody/-/1852/19811622/-/ogb3s9z/-/index.html

"... One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been captured, the Boston Globe reported citing an official with knowledge of the investigation. Another remains on the loose in Watertown after a firefight with police. Authorities have established a 20-block perimeter as they search for him.

Read more: http://www.ksbw.com/news/Reports-One-Boston-Marathon-suspect-in-custody/-/1852/19811622/-/ogb3s9z/-/index.html#ixzz2QtMHS6qY...";

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109. "It was like a war-zone..."
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 04:15 AM (EST)

LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 04:07 AM (EST)

Here's an eye-witness report from a live news feed say that the the cops had the place in Watertown surrounded and that the occupants were "throwing grenades" and even something that looked like a "pressure cooker" bomb at the police.

Detailed eyewitness report from 30 to 40 feet away from bedroom window:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/51592798/#51592798

Here's a YouTube video of the firefight. It sounds like Iraq!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl1SOB7ZUM

This YouTube video was taken closer to the action and you can hear the cops yelling at the people in the house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_931846

The captured suspect on the ground:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdDcKF1asW8

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116. "It *was* like a war-zone..."
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110. "Are there three of them?"
Initial reports said one was captured and one is still at large:

There is video of the one taken into custody being placed into a cop car after being strip searched:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/us/2013/04/19/vo-suspect-perp-walk.cn

'Now there are reports that a suspect 'in custody' later 'died':

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-dead-another-still-on-run-officials-say?lite

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111. "RE: Are there three of them?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 06:52 AM (EST)

A doctor from the hospital that they took him too said he had an IED strapped to him. Both seems to be foreigners and have been here for over a year and are Russian brothers.


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112. "Sunil Tripathi?"
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/americas/article3743697.ece

... 08.49: The names Sunil or Sunny has been used repeatedly on the Boston police scanner tonight referring to Suspect No 2,. the man who is still on the run. This appears to be Sunil Tripathi, a philosophy major at Brown University who has been missing for a month. Local press reports say that Boston police have officially identified him as a suspect.

Mr Tripathi is described as a leftwing Marxist of Indian Brahmin descent, whose father is a successful software developer. His family set up a Twitter account and a Facebook page last month to help the search for him. Mr Tripathi was first identified as a suspect in a crowdsleuthing exercise on the Reddit website.

The other suspect, who was wearing the black hat, has been named as Mike Mulugeta. He is thought to have died at hospital after a shoot-out with police..."


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113. "RE: Sunil Tripathi?"
Interesting. Your link identifies the suspect on the run as Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, of Cambridge, MA as of 11:52. It seems the two are brothers from Chechyna.
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114. "RE: Sunil Tripathi?"
NBC NEWS report on the brothers


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115. "Tsarnaev Brothers"
As Pepe said:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-killed-second-suspect-his-brother-on-loose-after-firefight?lite

With a bomb strapped to his chest, one of the Boston Marathon suspects was killed early Friday after he and his accomplice robbed a 7-Eleven, shot a police officer to death, carjacked an SUV and hurled explosives out the window in an extraordinary firefight with law enforcement, authorities told NBC News.

The second suspect — the one in the white hat in photos released by the FBI — was on the loose, and police ordered people in the Boston suburb of Watertown to stay in their homes and businesses not to open. Boston shut down its buses and subway system for the hunt.

The suspects are brothers with the last name Tsarnaev, law enforcement officials told NBC News. The suspect at large, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, is 19 and has a Massachusetts driver’s license, they said. Law enforcement officials told NBC News that both men had international ties, had been in the United States about a year and had military experience.

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117. "Tamerlan & Dzhokhar Tsarnaev"
Dead bombing suspect identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, second suspect is Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, sources say.

*From CNN Breaking news feed*

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119. "Interesting Reading"
http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/chechen-terrorism-russia-chechnya-separatist/p9181

Are there links between Chechen groups and al-Qaeda?

Experts say there are several ties between the al-Qaeda network and Chechen groups. A Chechen warlord known as Khattab is said to have met with Osama bin Laden while both men were fighting the 1979-89 Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Alexander Vershbow, a U.S. ambassador to Russia, said shortly after September 11, 2001, "We have long recognized that Osama bin Laden and other international networks have been fueling the flames in Chechnya, including the involvement of foreign commanders like Khattab." Khattab was killed in April 2002.

Zacarias Moussaoui, who was convicted for his involvement in the September 11 attacks, was reported by the Wall Street Journal to be formerly "a recruiter for al-Qaeda-backed rebels in Chechnya." Chechen militants reportedly fought alongside al-Qaeda and Taliban forces against the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance in late 2001. The Taliban regime in Afghanistan was one of the only governments to recognize Chechen independence.

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121. "RE: Interesting Reading"
Uncle has said that the both of them have been here for over a 10 years....


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118. "RE: Tsarnaev Brothers"
Lets get a law passed outlawing all military experience. And large capacity pressure cookers.

Sounds like the second suspect's days on the run and on earth are very limited. Hope he isn't allowed to take anyone else with him.

So they spend a lot of time and effort putting together the hardware and the plan, and also some effort to execute the plan. But they didn't give any thought to their escape plan?

Or was it their idiotic plan to rob a 7-11 on the way out of town to provide the cash and beef jerky that they would need for a life on the run?

They didn't use suicide vests, so they probably thought that they could survive the bombing.

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120. "Colonoscopy Photo"

Oh. My mistake. It was actually just a picture of worthless P.O.S. Al Qaeda wannnabe, Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev.

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124. "RE: Colonoscopy Photo"
While I generally avoid religious themed comments, I must say that I'm certain this particularly cretin is now enjoying the eternal company of other killers of Innocents, such as Bin Laden, Stalin, Saddam, and their ilk. The added pleasures of fire, brimstone, and the occasional poke up the wazzu with a pitchfork rounds out their routine.
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125. "RE: Colonoscopy Photo"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 03:08 PM (EST)

Not to mention being eunuch-ized and forced to spend eternity emptying night pottys for 70 (or ever how many) virgins.

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122. "Some donut jokes write themselves"
In the midst of the citywide lockdown, Dunkin Donuts get to stay open to serve the first responders.

http://www.businessinsider.com/boston-dunkin-donuts-stays-open-2013-4

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126. "RE: Some donut jokes write themselves"
I love Dunkin Donuts. I wish they had cheese danish.

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123. "4/19/1776"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 04:15 PM (EST)

Hope they can get the remaining suspect today, it would be fitting. Though Patriots Day was held on Monday, today is the actual anniversary it commemorates.

ETA: How embarrassing, I got the date wrong. 1775 was the year.

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127. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
I was up most of the night for the late breaking news as this unfolded. First, let me say "told ya so". I hadn't heard the terrorist killed had an IED strapped to him. I was wondering if they planned an attack last night or if the cop they killed recognized them and things got crazy after that. With Hobbs intel, it seems likely they were planning something. Someone's likely hiding this guy. Hope they find him real soon.

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128. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
Either someone's hiding this guy (may not be willingly) or he crawled up under somewhere and bled out and it will be a few days before he smell alerts us as to where.
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130. "RE: Expolosions at Boston Marathon??!??"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 06:30 PM (EST)

Hadn't thought of that -- that he might have been critically injured.

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131. "Engagement?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 08:38 PM (EST)

This could be the end of the road for Suspect Number 2.

If they've actually got him cornered, it doesn't seem likely he'll come out of this alive, one way or another.

(eta) Apparently, he hid in a boat in someone's yard and somehow got discovered. It's now a "standoff" according to some news agencies, including CNN.

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132. "RE: Engagement?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 08:49 PM (EST)

Suspect in custody.

Three others were taken in for questioning from a house in New Bedford.

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133. "RE: Engagement?"
I thought the people being questioned were at a house at the college, so not in this neighborhood.
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135. "RE: Engagement?"
LAST EDITED ON 04-19-13 AT 08:56 PM (EST)

Yes, but off campus. Identity verified. Medical needs to be attended to.

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137. "RE: Engagement?"
A CNN crew near the scene heard about two dozen gunshots fired, but it was not clear if the shots were fired by the suspect, authorities or both. A number of small explosions, believed to be stun grenades, also were heard.

Sounds like a (maybe a Fed) SWAT team moved in very quickly with non-lethal weapons to knock him out after the initial skirmish and haul him in.

Thinking about it, it's impressive how much effort went into finding and stopping these guys, to the point of literally shutting down a major East Coast city for an entire day, with thousands of law enforcement and intelligence personnel work on it around the clock. There was a sense of determination that was shared from the Oval Office, federal agencies, the state government, and the Boston (and let us not forget, university) police.

No doubt the intelligence services are investigating all of their past contacts and visits and it's quite possible that there's more to all of this than meets the eye.

And it's sad, the bombings and shootings, the death and all the injury that was caused in so many peoples' lives by two very highly misguided brothers in a dysfunctional family with roots in a war-torn land.

My heart and my thoughts go out to all of the people there who suffered for this.

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134. "GOT HIM"
Hopefully people can now start the road to healing and having a bit of peace of mind for a change.
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136. "It is going to be a long long time"
before anyone on the Boston PD is going to have to pay for a beer after work.

Good job guys, go home, hug someone you love, and get a good night's sleep.

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138. "RE: GOT HIM"
Excellent work! I hope we'll get some answers from the guy. What a relief! Let the healing begin.
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140. "Miranda Rights question"
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-13 AT 07:14 AM (EST)

They are making a big deal of whether they should be read to this citizen of the United States are not.

Does he have a different set of rights if that statement is read?

So the right to a lawyer is not absolute, but only if the people arresting me decided I get to have one?

I mean I thought the point of reading it was to make sure people know the information the should probably know but may not (like you have a right to plead the fifth and not talk). Not that in reading the rights they then apply to you and if they don't read them you don't have those rights?

Or am I confused about this. I mean I had thought this was about not giving a citizen of another country in our borders the same rights as a citizen or something, not that I only can have these rights if they are specifically given to me, and they decide if I am a criminal or a something else before there is any legal proceedings so it is just up to whoever puts the cuffs on me if I have rights or not.

Because that is how the reporting makes it kinda sound, and I just want to check.

ETA: Well based on how careful they are about reporting his medical condition it is good to know that his HIPAA privacy rights are absolute and cannot be revoked by anyone at any time for any reason.

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153. "RE: Miranda Rights question"
LAST EDITED ON 04-21-13 AT 02:03 PM (EST)

Good question, and it depends on whether this is treated as a crime or an act of warfare or terrorism. From all that has been said so far, from the Prez on down, it's terrorism, so all bets are off on legal protections.

This could become quite a media circus with the legal proceedings, future discoveries, and the spotlight on the brothers' dysfunctional family.

In any case, it seems unlikely that he'll end up in Guantanamo Bay detention camp.


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(eta latest news)

Federal terrorism charges against Boston Marathon bombings suspect Dzhokar Tsarnaev could be filed soon, even as he remains hospitalized, a Justice Department official told CNN on Saturday. The 19-year-old could also face murder charges at the state level.

Federal prosecutors are at the heavily guarded Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, where Tsarnaev remains in serious condition while in federal custody, and they are working on formulating the charges.

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158. "RE: Miranda Rights question"
I read around a bit on the public safety exception and if I understand correctly, they can question him about whether and where there are other dangers that he knows of in order to identify and neutralize those dangers. And nothing he tells them can be used against him in court. Once that line of questioning is exhausted he would be Mirandized.
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141. "Sibiling impact."
Two parts of the capture story stood out to me: the bit where the younger was only taken in because a good citizen violated his 'orders' by leaving the house in the first place -- that's Americans for you: don't tell us what to do -- and how the older got caught. According to police, at the end of one car chase phase, the brothers had theirs stopped and the older got out. Presumably he did something threatening, because the police then shot him. And the younger brother -- decided to resume the getaway, got the engine going, and hit something which was in his way. Namely, the older brother.

Right. He ran over his own sibling in order to escape. Truly no greater love.

I don't know if they had a getaway plan. The 7-11 robbery seems to have been an unrelated crime, so that takes out 'get money to run with'. Killing the MIT officer -- recognized? Cause as much terror as they could before they were dropped? The carjacking makes it look like they might have been heading out, but there are ways in it was incompetent at best: two of them and the driver escapes? Unless you're trying to lure the police in for a firefight -- in which case, we're back to 'kill until we're killed'. When I heard the younger was in a boat, I thought he'd headed for the water. Someone's backyard didn't really focus in until more details came through.

It seems as if potentially having gotten some of your ideas from those who regularly engage in suicide bombings tends to hinder the 'and then what?' part of the strategy. And I'm still surprised we got the younger alive. One circlemate proposed the nastiest thing he could do if too wounded to continue would be finding the most isolated place to die and letting the authorities waste hundreds of thousands of search hours looking for a suspect who no longer strictly existed while the entire region continued to shiver through the nights. Maybe that's what he was going for in the bottom of the boat. Or maybe he was waiting for any chance to do anything at all where more people would die.

We'll see what comes out when the rants begin.

Just be glad he wasn't seventeen.

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142. "RE: Sibiling impact."
I thought they had just lifted the "stay in your house" order shortly before the guy went to the back yard.

I wouldn't have looked in the boat. I would have just called the cops if I saw blood and a cut tie down.

From what I've gathered that house was just outside the "search every building" area so that is how come it wasn't checked out before.

I was thinking he might have just found some hole to bleed out in and we wouldn't find him until someone called in a really bad odor. I think the find a spot to hide would be pretty instinctual at that point and I don't know if he was still in plot and scheme mode or shocked how did I get away and did I really run over my brother mode.

If the reports that he just went back to campus and was living his life until he was on a wanted poster are correct they may have had a "they will never catch us look how long it took them to find that Unibomber guy" theory. Sure running immediately puts you on the radar as someone who might be guilty, but it also gives you enough time to get out of reach. Can't lock down the whole country and do a house to house search.

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143. "RE: Sibiling impact."
CNN story.

David Henneberry had been cooped up for hours, stuck inside as police searched for a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings. He ventured out for some fresh air after police lifted their order to stay indoors.

He looked at the boat parked in his yard. What he saw brought an end to the authorities' sweeping manhunt.

"The tarp on his winterized boat had sort of been flapping in the wind," his stepson Robert Duffy told CNN's Piers Morgan. Henneberry had tied down the covering on the vessel in his backyard so firmly that it had not budged all winter long, not even through this year's blizzards.

"He got closer and realized that one of the retention straps had literally been cut -- not chafed, not broken or unhooked," Duffy said. Henneberry saw something else -- something on the tarp that looked like blood.

The Watertown resident thought some animal had forced its way into his boat. Maybe it was a squirrel, he told his stepson. Henneberry climbed a stepladder to look inside.

"He basically stuck his head under the tarp (and) noticed a pool of blood," Duffy said. It was dark under the tarpaulin, so the boat owner could only make out vague contours, "but he definitely noticed there was something crumpled up in a ball," the stepson said.

A pool of blood; a manhunt in Watertown; time to call 911.

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144. "RE: Sibiling impact."
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-13 AT 05:33 PM (EST)

I don't understand the Miranda thing either, unless they are calling him an enemy combatant. You don't have to Mirandize anyone in combat, but applying that to this situation seems like a stretch.

And although the police said that the 7-11 robbery was by someone else, they did catch the brothers in the act on surveillance tapes, so that claim seems to be a bit bizarre. Fog of war, perhaps.

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145. "RE: Sibiling impact."
When they talked about it more about the only thing it means is they can ask operational questions. Is there another bomb, who gave you money, etc for a few hours before they have to say the words and if you do say something before they say the words they can actually use it in court.

But in this case do they really need that? I mean it isn't like they have nothing at all to hold him on from the evidence collected so far.

And I don't like the idea that you can just for giggles decide you have probably cause for certain crimes and remove rights from a citizen of the USA indiscriminately. I'm sure there are some limitations, I hope there are.

But it seemed really jarring to see that the Hospital is protecting his HIPAA privacy rights as they would for any other human being, but the judicial system/police seem to act if they don't keep him from his rights as long as possible they will never convict him of anything.

I mean if they just want to talk to me at the police station (they think I saw something) They have no intention of arresting me. I can still bring a lawyer and not answer any questions I don't want to, right? Because they were almost making it sound like until a cop says those words you have no right to have a lawyer and have no Fifth Amendment rights. I didn't think Miranda granted you the rights. Just remind you of them if you haven't passed the citizenship test in the last year and may have forgotten them from the 57 million times you have heard them read on TV dramas.

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149. "RE: Sibiling impact."
>According to police, at the end of one car chase phase,
>the brothers had theirs stopped and the older got out.
> Presumably he did something threatening, because the police
>then shot him. And the younger brother -- decided to
>resume the getaway, got the engine going, and hit something
>which was in his way. Namely, the older brother.
>
>
>Right. He ran over his own sibling in order to
>escape. Truly no greater love.

I'm wondering if the intention of running over his brother was to try and set off the bomb that was attached to his chest? I'd have to go through the archives again but didn't they say there were explosives found on the older brother? Just speculation there.

Radicalized people place a higher power and a common goal (to kill and maim) as a greater priority over families or common sense.

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151. "RE: Sibiling impact."
If so, he may have been the factor which damaged the bomb to where it couldn't easily be detonated. (Someone probably owes him some thanks for that, but let's try not to let it be any of us.) It brings up the question of just how many explosives were in the vehicle. Trying for a chain reaction: all homemade bombs, grenades, ammo, and the gas tank?

Incidentally, I'm eagerly awaiting the NRA press conference in which they'll defend grenade sales. Those deer just keep getting faster, y'know.

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146. "Religious faction identified."
The Post (which has been getting it wrong since this started) claims the brothers were at least YouTube followers of a radical Australian cleric who believes there's no greater honor than dying for your faith and reading Harry Potter creates evil.

So clearly they're evangelical Christians.

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147. "RE: Religious faction identified."
And the older one voted for Bush.


...I'm sure you're disapointed they aren't!


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148. "RE: Religious faction identified."
If he did, then he did it illegally. The younger one might have been able to vote in the last election, but I'm pretty sure Massachusetts doesn't release suspect ballot records. And if such records exist, worry lots.

Sorry, but I posted that as a velvet glove nod towards the extreme edges of both faiths having more in common than either wishes to admit. And if you've been following the thread, you know the New York Post has been blowing what remains of their journalistic credentials left and right -- mostly far right -- so I have no idea how far to trust that story anyway.

Disappointed? No. I wouldn't have been surprised if they were Religious Reich -- for any faction. It sounds increasingly like they're Islamic fringe. Which is mostly like the Christian fringe, only with looser clothing.

But until this part of the (maybe slightly accurate?) story broke, the lack of claimants, videos, and general You All Deserved This Because We Said So statements made me believe they might have been thrill killers. And their silence still bothers me.

One can no longer testify. The other may never do so.

If I was as much of a cross-hater as you seem to peg me to, I'd have a talk show, documentaries, and even more people would pronounce my name wrong.

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154. "RE: Religious faction identified."
I just think you use "Christian" and "Religious Right" interchangeably - maybe something that you should consider not doing? I'm not sure the Religious Right is a faith, either, any more so than Vegans or Environmentalist’s... and any of those groups can claim holiness or god.

I know you generally write these things to provoke. And I don’t know how much of a Christ(ian) hater you are, I haven’t had a pizza and a beer with you to find out – so no, that’s not what I’m thinking.

I hate how a minority of high-profile, loud Christians have made it a punch line and mockery to have a faith in God. But I really can’t do much about these people – and most of the time you are generally correct with your assessment of… “us” (there probably needs to have some definition around your “us” and my “us”).

In the mean time I know who I am and why I have faith and what I do with that; and others shoot people and blow things up in the name of their faith.




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150. "RE: Religious faction identified."
>The Post (which has been getting
>it wrong since this started)
>claims the brothers were at
>least YouTube followers of a
>radical Australian cleric who believes
>there's no greater honor than
>dying for your faith and
>reading Harry Potter creates evil.
>
>
>So clearly they're evangelical Christians.

Spew alert! *wipes off computer screen*


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152. "RE: Religious faction identified."
I followed this trail for a bit, and yes, it seems he had an infatuation for a Lebanese-born Australian cleric who just happens to be living, studying and speaking in Malaysia. Hmmm.
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157. "RE: Religious faction identified."
"Neighbors of the family said older brother Tamerlan had recently become obsessed with Islam"

"One link showed an hour-long speech by an Islamic teacher called Shaykh Feiz Mohammed, while other videos are labled “Terrorists” and “Islam”"

"Boston Marathon bombers reveals that they may have been followers of two radical Muslim sheiks - one who preached against the 'corrupting evils of Harry Potter' and another who advocates for al-Qaeda in their native Chechnya."

"Al-Juhani (one of the sheiks) is 'is an important ideologue for al Qaeda in Chechnya and the Caucases"

Just posting a few quotes about the religious link.

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155. "Closed Captioning Fail"
LAST EDITED ON 04-20-13 AT 07:40 PM (EST)

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What did Zooey ever do to you? OK that tomato soup Siri ad was pretty bad, but still...

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156. "RE: Closed Captioning Fail"
Fox is the "deschanel", switch it.
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159. "Right on cue"
the tubes of the interwebs fill up with conspiracy theorists and peeps who want romance with a guy in prison saying he's too cute to be a killer.

*sigh*

I wonder how many people are going to regret those hashtags when they try to get their next job.

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160. "RE: Right on cue"
Nauseating.
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161. "More Fallout"
On the lighter side.

The Boston Bombers, women’s semi-pro basketball team, will be changing their name.

Of the five comments already in the comments section, one is actually not stupid.

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162. "why not..."
This seriously chaps my hide.


http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tsarnaev_family_received_100g_in_benefits

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163. "RE: why not..."
It depends on how you break it down. Food stamps for the family -- I don't know how Mass. determines assistance rates: around here, it could easily be $200 a month (which still doesn't help much). Utility assistance, figure that's another $100. Nothing a lot of people living in poverty (or faking same) can't get by filling out the right forms over several months.

Section 8 housing is the big one. Locally, it's almost impossible to get into -- applications are taken once or twice a year for one day -- and if you get through, they typically pay just about your entire rent. But it's generally limited to the disabled and seniors whose rent increase has outpaced their Social Security. Again, I don't know what the New England rules are, but I'd think it would be hard for a working household -- or even an unemployed one -- to get into. Weird.

Incidentally, someone apparently did propose regulating and tracking pressure cooker sales, and at least one place tried pulling them off the shelves. Direct that outrage.

The one that gave me epidermis irritation: people who called and tweeted ESPN to demand the network stop covering news: just drop the marathon and go to a backup lacrosse game. Priorities!

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164. "RE: why not..."
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While I tend to agree but we are talking $100,000 over 10 years so only $10k a year really don't sound like much support when you put it that way. Plus is this for each of them added together or just the parents?

Up until last year while looking for an apartment for a friend I never heard of Section 8. I know it's hard to get here in Michigan.


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165. "More Arrests"
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/01/18001437-3-more-suspects-arrested-in-connection-with-boston-marathon-bombing-case-police?lite>1=43001

Boston Police said Wednesday they have arrested three more suspects in the marathon bombing investigation, but gave no immediate details.

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166. "RE: More Arrests"
So far sounds like involved in the cover up after the fact, but we will see.
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167. "And the dragnet continues..."
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168. "The sequel?"
Pressure Cooker 2.

Geez, it's available at any one of almost ten thousand Walmarts.

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169. "RE: The sequel?"
Somehow his story just doesn't add up. What college student wants a pressure cooker?
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170. "RE: The sequel?"
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As reported it was a silly series of lies, and is suspicious.

But why bring a pressure cooker thru customs anyway when every Walmart, Target, sears, garage sale etc. sells them?

And, although the missing page from his passport might be a cause for detainment, is that even illegal?

At some point the authorities are going to realize that bringing a pressure cooker thru customs, for whatever reason, isn't illegal.

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171. "RE: The sequel?"
An altered passport is sufficient grounds for refusal for entry, no matter what country the passport holder attempts to enter.

It makes you wonder what was on the missing page. Visas and stamps for a visit to Yemen? Afghanistan? Pakistan? The Chechen Republic? Switzerland?


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Good luck finding a Mid-eastern cuisine recipe book that calls for cooking lamb or goat in a pressure cooker.

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172. "RE: The sequel?"
Well, I guess a passport with a missing page (presumably one with or without entry stamps) could be considered an altered passport.

I would have assumed that by altered passport they would mean that the name or picture or other ID info had been changed, not that a page was missing.

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173. "FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-orlando-man-questioned-boston-bombing-shot-killed-by-fbi-2013-5

Just how bad do you have to flip out during an interview to get shot?

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174. "RE: FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
I'm guessing we have a two-way race between Bill O'Reilly and Jerry Springer for the title of World's Saddest Man right now.

They so wanted to do it first.

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175. "RE: FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
Well, I'd say Bill would want to be the one to have to do the shooting. Jerry strikes as more wanting one of his contestants (or whatever you call the people on his show) to be the shooter.
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176. "RE: FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
The guy reportedly went Brandonhantz on the attack, pulled a knife. Whether getting people to flip out is a particular skill trained into federal agents, or a natural ability sought in recruiting federal agents ... probably a bit of both.
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177. "RE: FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
They (and other law enforcement types) usually do exert a certain amount of pressure during interviews, especially if there is some reason to think the person may be withholding information/lying.

That is also how you end up with people confessing to things because at some point it almost seems reasonable that they will really let you go home if only you say you murdered 13 people and a llama while wearing a gorilla suit and high heels.

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178. "RE: FBI shoot one of the people they are talking to."
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/22/18418012-man-with-ties-to-boston-bombing-suspect-admits-role-in-2011-murders-shot-during-fbi-questioning?lite

Dead Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and another man — who was killed by the FBI on Wednesday — murdered three people in Massachusetts after a drug deal went wrong in 2011, law enforcement sources tell NBC News.

Sources say that what began as a drug ripoff ended in a triple homicide when Tsarnaev and Ibragim Todashev realized their victims would later be able to identify them.

Todashev, 27, allegedly attacked an agent with a knife while confessing to the 3-year-old slayings. He was not suspected of having played any role in the bombing.

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179. "Terrorism in London"
I'm sure we have all read the horrific story. Is this what we can expect in the future - lone wolf terrorist attacks by insane men?
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180. "RE: Terrorism in London"
Well I don't think it is the future as it has been going on at a reasonably steady pace since they started calling crazies doing things terrorism. They really only started calling it that in the 1990's but they've been around before that.

As long as we have a world where people are disenfranchised, don't see a possible good future for themselves, and not nearly enough mental health services, it isn't likely people with violent tendencies will stop using nominally political reasons for hurting others. I don't know if they are really much different from violent people who use any other -ism or delusion as a reason.

Most people seem to need a something to be the reason for the violence rather than just saying they did it 'cause they liked it.

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