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"Snewser's Scorecard for ASS"
Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 01:51 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Is he telling us that Richard is actually the first to go? When he was on The Weakest Link, everyone else ganged up on him and voted him out right away. I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 02:29 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Interesting -- the thumbs-down contestants are listed in alpha order, but the thumbs-up contestants are not.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 02:44 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Thumbs down by original tribe:Blue Tribe: Ethan, Rudy, Jerri, Tina Green Tribe: Richard, Colby, Jenna M. Red Tribe: Rob C., Susan Thumbs up by original tribe: Blue Tribe: Rupert, Jenna L. Green Tribe: Lex, Shii Ann, Kathy Red Tribe: Rob M., Tom, Alicia, Amber As BR pointed out, the 9 thumbs-up are not in alpha order. Could this be order of finish? Lex, Kathy, Alicia - logical early jury boots. Too strong and too respected from prior versions to keep around for the endgame. Shii-Ann, Tom - If they're gone in the middle, then they were the hangers-on of the alliances - the people who were used to get to this point. Rupert - Did he go on another of his challenge runs? Is this how he made it this far? And did he and Jenna L. have a similar bond to his bond with Christa on S7? Amber, Jenna L., Rob M. - Ew. I don't really want to go here, but...did one (or both) of these girls get romantic with the Robbfather? This could fufill our romance spoiler, as well as explain why they ended up allied. (Not all three of them, that would be kinky...you know what I mean.) I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 02:59 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 03:10 PM (EST)I tend to agree with Snewser that the past winners will be out the door ASAP, just because they are winners. His order actually feeds into an idea I was mulling over -- The contestants can be grouped loosely into three categories, based on their performance in their installment: 1) Past winners: Richard, Tina, Ethan, Jenna M 2) Those expelled at F4 or beyond: Colby, Lex, Kathy, Rudy, Tom, Susan, Rob C 3) Those expelled mid-game: Shii Ann, Rupert, Jenna L, Jerri, Rob M, Alicia, Amber The last group may more or less work together as the game progresses, in order to eliminate those who went farther the first time around. Six of Snewser's "Final 9" come from this category, and all of his "Final 4" does. Edited because I misfiled Rob C. (Thanks, True!)
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:05 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
My memory generally sucks, but didn't Rob C. finish 3rd?
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djandy 1711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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01-05-04, 03:42 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
If I recall correctly, Snewser had Darrah at the bottom of his S7 list all season long until the Finale predictions when he correctly predicted Darrah to go 4th. Hopefully this doesn't necessarily mean a Rob M. win. djandy
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:49 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Well, I, like true, wouldn't mind a Rob M win, but I'm sure we'll see some shuffling around on this list. After all, when Snoozer first posted his S7 scorecard, Sandra was slated to be an early boot...
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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01-05-04, 05:48 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
During S7, the scorecard was most useful when tracking the changes Snewser made with each update. As Brownroach points out, the scorecard changed frequently. The Scorecard is Snewser's best guess, based on his available info at that time. It is updated regularly, often on Thursday morning, when new information becomes available or is confirmed. The changes observed are often the best clues available to help us distinguish between what Snewser thinks and what he knows. Interpreting the changes will often provide a glimpse at Snewser's most recent "tip". I have created a file and will be tracking the changes this season and will post them as they are observed... Krautboy
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bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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01-06-04, 12:48 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Krautboy, I am looking forward to your "tracking the changes file" you will post this season.I think we should view Snewser's scorecard as more of a worksheet, not a set-in-stone prediction.
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:11 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 03:12 PM (EST)oh lord, i may have to kill myself if rob m. wins. interesting that the green tribe's lex-kathy-shii are three of the first 4 thumbs up/jury, with alicia between kathy and shii. indicates either that alicia wins the first couple individual immunities and then is booted when she fails, or that shii wins F7 immunity forcing the other tribes to cannibalize (if of course this boot order is set in stone, which i'm sure it's not)
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true 9689 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:21 PM (EST)
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9. "Go Rob M!" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 03:22 PM (EST)Sorry, HE, but he's clearly the most interesting of that group. (as BR has them separated, well, Rupert would be ok too) However, I feel the same way you do, except about Amber. *yawn* My biggest beef with the way that MB casts Survivor is that I don't think he takes into consideration each contestant as the winner. I mean really, would he cast Amber if he pictured her winning ASS? Amber? I don't think so. He casts for type, and typically, the wrong type ends up winning, and fans are disappointed. I'd rather see 16 Rob M's fight it out, than 16 UTR bores ride coattails to the end of the game. edited to include Rupert.
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 04:20 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Go Rob M!" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 04:21 PM (EST)how do i feel, with the exception of amber? *confused* (cause she makes me yawn too) and i'm sure the antichrist is "interesting" too, but it doesn't mean i want him to win survivor
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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01-05-04, 04:25 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Go Rob M!" |
Ya know, I'm of the mind that Amber will not be the Lamber we all remember from the Outback. She's older now, hopefully wiser, and has seen 7 (OK, 6.5) iterations of the game. She was clearly lost in her first go around, completely whipped by Jerri and Colby. I'm sure she's heard the talk - follower, boring, didn't deserve to win anyway. Like Jerri, I look for a "different" Amber to appear on the beaches of the Pearl Islands.I think Amber is going to be a revelation in ASS.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:29 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
interesting that the green tribe's lex-kathy-shii are three of the first 4 thumbs up/juryAssuming that there are no switches/ghost tribe, this tells me that the primary alliance within the red tribe was able to convince the two blue stragglers that they could go farther with them. I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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mavsfan 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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01-05-04, 11:42 PM (EST)
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24. "Keep in mind a Ghostie variation" |
I think we need to keep in mind the Ghost Tribe scenario when considering early boots and Snewsers list.From S3 on, each episode of Survivor has had some variation on player swapping, but never the same scenario twice. S3 - select 3 players to meet JP. S4 - stand on a stump, random buff selection. S5 - Share a camp, but not merged. S6 - pick a player boy-girl-boy-girl (Dave & Jenna). S7 - Kidnap a player. So, while I expect MB to use the Ghost tribe again, I Don't expect him to use the same format as he did in S7. So, Is Snewsers list an early boot list? Or, Is Snewsers list an Merge List? Or, Is Snewsers list a after the Ghostie's impact? Or, is Snewsers list a current best guess list?
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Round Robin 2914 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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01-11-04, 00:58 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Keep in mind a Ghostie variation" |
Burn-it should not need a ghost tribe twist to keep this season interesting. The three tribe format is a twist in itself, as is dropping from 3 to 2 tribes. I don't look for any use of bootees in ASS anything like what they did in S7. The well known players and their interaction should provide all the excitement Burn-it needs to keep ratings up.
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mavsfan 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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01-11-04, 11:06 AM (EST)
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37. "No Ghost Tribe for S8?" |
I remember a discussion of the Ghost Tribe last season and the theory that MB was road testing the Ghosties in S7, as a way to bring back interesting players in S8 if they got voted out early (Rich, Colby, Jerri). It's possible that after the road test MB decided not to use the Ghosties in S8. Possible reasons: 1) The most interesting players weren't sent to loser lodge early. 2) Past fan favorites WERE sent to loser lodge early, but the remaing players improved their game play and bringing back past fan favorites was not needed. 3) Lil, a Ghostie lost 6-1. The jury while down playing the Ghostie prejudice wasn't going to let a Ghostie win. 4) Viewers didn't like the Ghostie return in S7. 5) The dynamics in loser lodge were such that if the Ghosties Got a chance to re-enter the game, they would have sent less interesting players into the game.
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KObrien_fan 8360 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:19 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
I wouldn't mind seeing a Rob M win it all.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 03:30 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 03:32 PM (EST)>Hmmmm. Don't ya just lvoe Snews and his riddles? I can take the riddles: it's the horrible attempt at a Scottish accent that sent me scrambling. Can anyone please translate that speech for the Connery-impaired? I picked up something about Argentina...
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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01-05-04, 04:20 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 04:26 PM (EST)Posted by kurs10b at Sucks: you are probably wondering how many stinky rays I bagged. Or weather it was ------- got harpooned. Suffice it to say, all stars show is going to be as awsome as my trip to argentina. Though mexico sissy (sic) group got screwed. Haha and you are also probably confused by my cheesy attempt at a scottish accent, you will understand when you see the kilt. Thats all I can say for now. Well, looks like there are a few tasty tidbits here. First, Snewser seems to confirm that the early boots are sent to Argentina (Patagonia) and that Rich is one of them. colleenlover puts Rudy, Rob6 and Tina there as well. Second, it appears that a second group of boots were sent to Mexico City. Could this be the group that hung around waiting to get back in the game? The members of a Ghost Tribe? Either way, this group is probably composed of the later pre-jury boots. Lastly, I have no idea what the kilt refernece could mean. Rupert wore a skirt for much of his time on PI. I doubt that this group will enter the game "with just the clothes on their back" as the the last group did. Hmmmm. Any ideas, anyone? The Scorecard also mentions that there were Jenna6 sightings as early as November 13. If true, she's gone by the third TC. So, both Rich and Jenna6 among the earliest (first 5? 6?) boots. As for the comments about previous winners, while I agree that they stand little chance of winning the game, the wording in the scorecard makes the comment seem less like a statement of fact as a strong assumption. I think KB may have it right in his post below.
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udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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01-05-04, 04:29 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
>Lastly, I have no idea what >the kilt refernece could mean.OMH! Snewser is Farmboy! --- UDG I know. I should give up on any attempt at humor. {sigh}
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 04:41 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Possible kilt references:- Rupert's skirt. - Colby's last name (Donaldson) is Scottish. I am the embodiement of snarky, sarcastic and smart. I am also the S7 Anti-Bootee co-champion!
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-05-04, 06:01 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-05-04 AT 06:02 PM (EST)>you are probably wondering how many stinky rays I bagged... Thanks. That's a lot further than I got. >First, Snewser seems to confirm that the early boots are sent >to Argentina (Patagonia) and that Rich is one of them. > colleenlover puts Rudy, Rob6 and Tina there as well. 'Thank you for coming, enjoy this vacation on us, and don't go home too early, or those evil-but-MB-says-meaningless Internet people will know you were voted out early. Not that MB thinks anyone listens to them, but why give them the satisfaction? And by the way, eat a lot while you're there. No weight loss spoilers for you!' >Second, it appears that a second group of boots were sent >to Mexico City. Could this be the group that >hung around waiting to get back in the game? >The members of a Ghost Tribe? Either way, this >group is probably composed of the later pre-jury boots. It's possible that the early group was the Ghost Tribe -- but if Argentina was more of a vacation, it blows the limited rations idea out of the water. Maybe the Mexico City group was on the classic limited rations (whatever that meant -- did anyone ever ask that as an interview question for the Ghostees?)and got bleeped because they _lost_ at their chance to get back in? Using the Ghosts as the midgame-expulsions makes some sense from the twist standpoint. If you're thinking of stocking a potential competitor tribe with your early boots and deliberately get rid of the weakest people, you're going to have a nasty shock when the mid-level competent and high-level challenge threats (who were dumped so they couldn't go on immunity runs) come marching out of the brush. >Lastly, I have no idea what the kilt refernece could mean. > Rupert wore a skirt for much of his time on PI. I doubt >that this group will enter the game "with just the clothes on > their back" as the the last group did. Hmmmm. Any ideas, >anyone? The first one is that Rupert is Richard's new fashion guru: Queer Eye On The Skirt Guy. And my, isn't that a vision. Richard in a skirt. Richard as we first knew him in a skirt, doing his fire dance. There will now be a brief pause while I try to forget I ever imagined that.
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Krautboy 2750 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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01-05-04, 03:45 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Snewser's Scorecard for ASS" |
Snewser may have received a "tip" that the All Star Final 2 does not include a previous winner... Krautboy
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Goooey_Alley 425 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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01-06-04, 00:59 AM (EST)
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25. "Like what Snews said..." |
the scorecard contains SNN's best guess of who's vulnerable, and who might go the distance.http://www.survivornews.net/snn.php?sid=spoilers Not yet definite, but probably the early targets are those who have gotten far in the past seasons (especially the winners).
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Fweep 35 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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01-06-04, 07:37 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: Like what Snews said..." |
LAST EDITED ON 01-06-04 AT 07:51 AM (EST)Here is what I do not understand. Why would ANY of the previous winners come back at all? I think Brian was the smartest of the bunch. I cannot imagine any of the survivors ever allowing any of the previous winners a chance in hell to get anywhere close to the ultimate prize. Brian didn't show up, but people like Richard who is a media whore and probably honestly felt he could win it all. Tis a shame, I think it would have been better to be called 2nd chance survivor because many of the people on this show are no where close to all stars. I really thought Michael Skumpin should have had another chance (maybe he declined)or some of the other final four contestants. Having several of the winners show up who don't have a snowball's chance in hell to win seems very anti-climatic to me. Edited: I can see six of the survivors there that in my opinion shouldn't be on the island. Jerri, Alicia, Shii Ann, Amber, Jenna L. and Rob M. None of these people came close. Amber was the closest and she blew her chance to make it to the final four by "keeping her aliance with the Jerrifolk", when she could have easily switched and taken out Colby. Jerri is simply a fan fav, but not deserving, Alicia was strong but was first out after merge, Shii Ann was a victim of a false merge so MAYBE her. Jenna L. Please! and Rob M? Well he did mastermind the Hunter boot but in the end he faded as so many others. For those I think who deserve a second chance? Purple Rock Pappy (tho he might be too old now). Deena was a victim of Rob C. but I think she played the game much better than many of those listed above. Kelly W. who is probably the most deserving of those who didn't get in, she won 5 challenges in a row to get to the final two. Ted -- If you are going to let in Jerry, might as well give that spot to someone who has some strength. Neleh if for only the reason she masterminded the first switch of tribal alliances when she took out John and the General's group. I think she is more deserving than Rudy who rode Richard's coat tails. Jon -- if rumors are true he will be back Sandra -- She played a different game, which probably wouldn't work a second time, or it might since much of S7 was shown while they were filming S8. Fweep
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pmspml5 3263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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01-06-04, 07:50 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Like what Snews said..." |
I think they had a list of types - 1st choice for this type etc. I know from Michaels web page he had indicated that he would go. I think the the people in front of him on the list said yes - but the people in front of Amber said no. I know that there have been several comments by JP and MB that there were several players they really wanted that just said no. It makes me wonder who would not be here if they had said yes. If snewers is even close I'm pretty happy with it.
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-06-04, 12:32 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Like what Snews said..." |
I think it would have been better to be called 2nd chance survivorTo be honest, I would have liked that idea much better. Then it could have even included people who were voted off very early, like Kel or Hunter. I agree it's a waste of space to bring back the winners; I for one have no interest in seeing any of them again, and it seems to me a foregone conclusion that they'll just get booted at the earliest practical opportunity.
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-06-04, 05:27 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Like what Snews said..." |
I did not want to see any of the winners back either.
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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01-06-04, 11:26 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Like what Snews said..." |
Survivor 10? Survivor: Second Chance?
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munson 1314 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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01-11-04, 05:45 PM (EST)
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38. "January 11 Update" |
Only a minor change but make of it what you will...Snewswer has switched the positions of Amber and Jenna1 on his Scorecard with Amber now in the "F2" spot with Rob4. Hmmmmm.
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