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"S5 and S6 Summary Schedule"
AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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"S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Greetings again. Without further ado, here is the listing of the summary schedule for Survivor 5 (Thailand) and 6 (???).Survivor 5 E1: Thursday, Sept. 19 -- landruajm E2: Thursday, Sept. 26 -- Bebo E3: Thursday, Oct. 3 -- Naked E4: Thursday, Oct. 10 -- drawde236* E5: Thursday, Oct. 17 -- Teddy_Bear E6: Thursday, Oct. 24 -- dangerkitty E7: Thursday, Oct. 31 -- Survivorerist E7.5: Thursday, Nov. 7 -- Femme E8: Thursday, Nov. 14 -- Outfrontgirl E9: Thursday, Nov. 21 -- Drive My Car E10: Thursday, Nov. 28 -- PepeLePew13 E11: Thursday, Dec. 5 -- Superman E12: Thursday, Dec. 12 -- George Tirebiter & Dalton E13: Thursday, Dec. 19 -- SherpaDave Survivor 6 E1 -- SurvivinDawg E2 -- survivorscott* E3 -- LadyT E4 -- diamond E5 -- TechNoir E6 -- LionChow* E7 -- FesterFan1 E7.5 -- Ra_8secs* E8 -- anotherkim E9 -- NightScribe E10 -- dabo E11 -- GuessItRains E12 -- PagongRatEater E13 -- Lisapooh *: has not yet written summary for another RTVW,com show; must complete or be replaced (drawde236 & survivorscott are scheduled; LionChow and Ra_8secs are not). Could also be replaced if I don't think your summary is up to par -- but keep in mind that there are only three writers on my current secret blacklist, and none of them signed up for this. General Alternates (in order): 1. Silvergirl1* (summary scheduled) 2. s_man* (no summary scheduled) S6-specific Alternates (in order): 1. Superman 2. dangerkitty OK, here's a full rundown. First, my apologies to Silvergirl1 and s_man -- I just ran out of episodes. If someone has to cancel, though, you're the first alternates for S5 or if one of the new writers doesn't fulfill the prerequisites prior to the S6 schedule being finalized. Second, to LionChow and Ra_8secs: you now know what's required prior to S6. Good luck in satisfying the requirements. For S6, I added two more alternates: the two writers that wrote the finales of S3 and S4 (and who both ended up getting spots in the S5 summaries). Why, you ask? Simple: I like them, and they are great writers. Please post any comments, change requests, etc. in this thread.
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dabo |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
SurvivinDawg |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
PagongRatEater |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
FesterFan1 |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
L82LIFE |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Silvergirl1 |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Teddy_Bear |
08-21-02 |
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Sorry, Teddy |
AyaK |
08-21-02 |
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Thanks, Teddy! |
Silvergirl1 |
08-21-02 |
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You're Welcome {{{{{{{{{{Silver... |
Teddy_Bear |
08-21-02 |
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Right back at you {{{{{{{{{{Teddy... |
Silvergirl1 |
08-21-02 |
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RE: Right back at you {{{{{{{{{{T... |
Teddy_Bear |
08-21-02 |
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Many thanks to AyaK for all your tr... |
Outfrontgirl |
08-21-02 |
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No Problem, take your time *smile* |
Teddy_Bear |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
diamond |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Naked |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Swami |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Drive My Car |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Outfrontgirl |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Drive My Car |
08-21-02 |
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No offence intented *sorry* |
Teddy_Bear |
08-22-02 |
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RE: No offence intented *sorry* |
Drive My Car |
08-22-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
Ra_8secs |
08-21-02 |
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Summary "auditions" |
AyaK |
08-21-02 |
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RE: Summary "auditions" |
LionChow |
08-22-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
survivorscott |
08-21-02 |
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Lemme get this straight.. |
Superman |
08-21-02 |
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RE: Lemme get this straight.. |
SherpaDave |
08-22-02 |
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Hey SuperHero Dude!!! |
Drive My Car |
08-22-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
idiotcowboy |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
PepeLePew13 |
08-21-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
SurvivinDawg |
08-25-02 |
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Question about bumping the guidelin... |
heresy |
08-22-02 |
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Go ahead! |
AyaK |
08-22-02 |
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RE: Go ahead! |
SherpaDave |
08-22-02 |
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Sounds good |
AyaK |
08-22-02 |
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What about SOTS ? |
Teddy_Bear |
08-22-02 |
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RE: What about SOTS ? |
sleeeve |
08-23-02 |
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RE: What about SOTS ? |
Teddy_Bear |
08-24-02 |
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Hey, Dave |
Swami |
08-22-02 |
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RE: Hey, Dave |
Superman |
08-22-02 |
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TechNoir |
08-22-02 |
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RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule |
NightScribe |
08-26-02 |
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One way ticket to the blacklist |
drawde236 |
08-28-02 |
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RE: One way ticket to the blacklist |
dabo |
08-28-02 |
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Well... |
AyaK |
08-28-02 |
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While you're considering requests f... |
Outfrontgirl |
08-28-02 |
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Yep -- and E5 |
AyaK |
08-29-02 |
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RE: Yep -- and E5 |
Teddy_Bear |
08-29-02 |
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Nope |
dangerkitty |
08-29-02 |
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What's this? the Voice of REASON! |
George Tirebiter |
08-29-02 |
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RE: Nope |
PepeLePew13 |
08-29-02 |
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RE: Not surprised |
Teddy_Bear |
08-30-02 |
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Kill two birds with one stone? |
drawde236 |
08-29-02 |
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Sorry, but no |
Teddy_Bear |
08-30-02 |
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RE: Sorry, but no |
dabo |
08-30-02 |
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RE: Sorry, but no |
Outfrontgirl |
08-30-02 |
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RE: Sorry, but no |
Silvergirl1 |
08-30-02 |
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You're the best *smile* |
Teddy_Bear |
08-30-02 |
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S5 Scheduling |
AyaK |
08-30-02 |
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RE: S5 Scheduling |
PepeLePew13 |
08-30-02 |
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RE: S5 Scheduling |
SurvivorBlows |
08-30-02 |
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RE: S5 Scheduling |
Outfrontgirl |
08-30-02 |
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RE: S5 Scheduling |
SherpaDave |
08-30-02 |
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Bebo |
08-30-02 |
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I commit to doing an Episode 5 summ... |
Teddy_Bear |
08-30-02 |
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RE: S5 Scheduling |
HawkEye |
08-30-02 |
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AMAI |
11-27-02 |
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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1. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Wow, AK, thanks for all the great work on this stuff. I am looking forward to every summary, I just love them (and read some even for some shows I don't watch).I didn't expect episode designations for S6 (not complaining, just observing), and am pleased as punch to be included in the schedule. If any problems crop up, schedule or whatever wise, later on, I am certain I can find a suitable stand-by. Anyway, lest anyone forget, there are plenty of shows worthy of summaries, Survivor is just considered the cream of the crop around here. There are some shows I cannot stand and wouldn't want to summarize in a million years, honestly, but they are out there. Is anyone doing summaries of the Anna Nicole Smith show? I caught one of those, what a weird game, I don't understand how anyone wins except Anna Nicole. SMILES ARE FREE
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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Thanks, AyaK.I didn't expect episode designations for S6 I think it's a good idea to go ahead and post those now. Avoids having to do this run-around again (until S7, should there be one). P.S. I wanna know who is on AyaK's blacklist! That'll let us know what writing styles to avoid. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin FranklinContradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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PagongRatEater 12996 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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Great job dealing with a ticklish situation AyaK. Guess that is why YOU are the webmaster. I can't believe I have to wait until next season! But the penultimate episode of should be a fun one. I enjoyed doing that episode of the Mole. Keep me in mind as a back-up for this season, too, or if anyone needs to switch I WILL be by the channel.In the meantime, in the immortal words of Red Sox fans everywhere, just wait until next year!
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FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 11:19 AM (EST)
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Wow! With a lineup of writers like this, I have NO problem at all with waiting until next season to get another shot. Thanks, AK, for giving me a slot for S6, I know it got pretty dicey there.Come on September 19.... Fester
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L82LIFE 5333 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 12:14 PM (EST)
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WOW! What a fantastic list of writers you've lined up here, AK. I'm so impressed with the diplomatic way you handled this situation. I'm still too much of a wimp to attempt a summary (I know-must work on my DAW skills), I'm just so glad that we have so much talent around SB to keep me entertained. Hooray to all of you! PS- Does anyone else think AyaK should be President?
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Silvergirl1 9342 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 01:04 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
No apologies are necessary, Ayak! I do enjoy reading other people's work and I waited until the dust settled before I put in my bid for a spot and then only if you had one available.I hope I can prove myself worthy of consideration after writing a Push, Nevada summary. Thanks for all that you do to keep the boards up and running and to make everyone here happy. Come on in, the water's fine!
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-21-02, 01:18 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-21-02 AT 01:30 PM (EST)Silvergirl1, since you're one of my favourite posters, and I really admire your wit and writing style; I would love to collaborate with you on my summary, if you'd be interested in doing that. Also thank you AyaK for scheduling me for an episode 5 summary. I will do my best to make sure you aren't disapointed. Since late October-to-mid-November, is a better time for me than early-to-mid-October, and although I would ideally have preferred the Episode 8--the first week of November; Episode 7, the last week of October, or Episode 9, the 2nd week of november; I am very honoured to be doing a Survivor summary. If either Outfrontgirl, Survivoreist, or Drive my Car, would like to switch summary dates with me, I would be more than happy to oblige. If not, I'm very happy to be doing an Episode 6 Episode 5 summary. Silvergirl1, I hope you will take me up on my offer. It is not necessary to accept everything as true, one must only accept it as necessary. |=Unrepentant Hardcore Smiley Thief Light a Virtual Candle~~~~~~~~~~~ Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 01:55 PM (EST)
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8. "Sorry, Teddy" |
All I remembered from your post was that you'd prefer E8 but would take any episode except E1.
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Silvergirl1 9342 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:41 PM (EST)
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16. "Right back at you {{{{{{{{{{Teddy Bear!!!!}}}}}}}}}}" |
just add some some DancingThai hunksOkay.... Okay, I know that they are the same Hawaiian dancers I used before, but I have not found any Thai Dancers yet. I will work on it. Teddy Bear & Silvergirl1=Survivor Summary Writing Duo Extraordinaire BTW, I'm not superstitious or hung up on numerology, but the number 8 is a recurring number for me. It has been the last number of every home (3 different addresses) I have owned, including the future house we are building, and it's the last number of my cell phone number. Come on in, the water's fine!
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 04:56 PM (EST)
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11. "Many thanks to AyaK for all your travail" |
And to Teddy-- >>If either Outfrontgirl, Survivoreist, or Drive my Car, would like to switch summary dates with me, I would be more than happy to oblige.I would not mind switching with you, but because I am in the middle of a very long hard moving-in process, I'm not sure at this point in time if I should volunteer for an earlier summary. Can we wait 3-4 weeks before I commit to the trade? It's all a long ways off and I would like to see where my life is at that point. If it's settling down, I'll happily trade.
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-21-02, 05:12 PM (EST)
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13. "No Problem, take your time *smile*" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-02 AT 02:01 AM (EST)>And to Teddy-- >>>If either Outfrontgirl, Survivoreist, or Drive my Car, would like to switch summary dates with me, I would be more than happy to oblige. >Can we wait 3-4 weeks before I commit to the trade? It's all a long ways off and I would like to see where my life is at that point. If it's settling down, I'll happily trade.< That's would be great OFG. Episode 8 is STILL my FIRST CHOICE Preference, and if my 2nd & 3rd Choices--Episode 7--Sir Erist, and --Episode 9--Drive My Car--respectively, wants to switch with me prior to that... I'll agree, and after 3 or 4 weeks, or whenever; IF you have decided to switch, I'll simply switch again--thus making possible an Ep. 7-to-8 switch (or an Ep. 9-8 switch), --making your decision--that much easier. *Note: edited because I deleted my Episode 9 summary request to eBug, from my original post. Sorry Buggy.I did this, because Buggy very promptly informed me that she wanted to keep her Episode 9 summary. I really appreciate you responding so quickly to my request. It is not necessary to accept everything as true, one must only accept it as necessary. |=Switch Change Artist Light a Virtual Candle~~~~~~~~~~~ Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:50 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: No Problem, take your time *smile*" |
Works for me *I always take my time... I merely suck at using it wisely after I've taken it*
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diamond 2307 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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08-21-02, 02:06 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
AyaK, thank you for all the work you have put into this, and for doing it so fairly. I can't wait for S5 (and TAR3, and S6) to start, not for the show, but for the summaries! This is really an amazing line-up of writers.
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Naked 887 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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08-21-02, 05:35 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Oh my Gawd !!!! I am having soooooo many problems with this lineup. I can only do summaries on the second Thursday in the first week of the month of January or April, and I Deserve to demand my timeslot wish... DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ??? !!! Just joking Ayak... Thanks for all of the hard work. You really put together a great crew for the next couple of seasons, even though you are noticably missing from the lineup. You do realize that an "unofficial" summary from you would be incredibly appretiated.
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:39 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Hi, AyaK. I was offline for about a week due to a major screw-up while switching ISPs. Anyway, you can add my name to your alternates list, if you don't mind. I had such a blast doing my S4 summary!Thanks for organizing this--I can't wait to read the summaries from this wonderful bunch of writers. Swami
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:42 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-02 AT 00:51 AM (EST) Wow! I feel like I just won the Lottery! I guess in a way I did! Thanks AK ( and thanks to whatever method got me a spot )
I too am looking forward to reading some great Summaries for the next couple seasons. Sorry Teddy, but I got this years School scheduale today, and I guess I am double lucky because ep. 9 is the most perfect date for me. I go on School Holiday the next day, and will have more time that week then any other on the scheduale. ( edit- ya know Teddy, it really BUGS me, when I respond to you and then you edit your posts to appear as if you never said what I responded to. I think it is rude, just saying. And to those who didn't see the original posts, Teddy asks for my date also.) I am feeling so lucky today I may go out and buy a Lottery ticket
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:46 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Hey Lucky Buggy, On your way to buy the ticket, be sure to play "I'm Feelin Lucky" (or similar name) by Mary Chapin Carpenter...
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
LOL!!!!! I love that silly song!!" think I'll flip a coin I'm a winner either way Mmmmm I feel lucky today" Buggy- knows gratitude is good for her Karma
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-22-02, 01:39 AM (EST)
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30. "No offence intented *sorry*" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-22-02 AT 01:55 AM (EST)>( edit- ya know Teddy, it really BUGS me, when I >respond to you and then you edit your posts to appear as if you never said what I responded to. I think it is rude, just saying. And to those who didn't see the original posts, Teddy asks for my date also.)< Sorry Buggy, if you thought I was being rude--that was NOT my intention. If you noticed, my #7 post--where your name is mentioned, was left intact. I only altered post #13--because you had informed me that, switching summaries with you was NOT a possibility. I thought it would be less confusing that way; if I wanted to negate my earlier request, I would have deleted your name from post #7 as well. I left post #7 the way it was, and re-edited post #13, to not to change my intention--see post #7, but to simplify things. It did not occur to me that you would take offence at this; however, I have restored my post--#13 to its original form. I very much did appreciate your prompt response, and assure you that, absolutely no offense was intended. *Note: edited because I realised that what I should have done was to re-edit my post while acknowleging Buggy's response. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Buggy; I will try to handle things better in the future. Good to see you back; I'm glad that your recovery is going well. It is not necessary to accept everything as true, one must only accept it as necessary. |=Unrepentant Hardcore Smiley Thief Light a Virtual Candle~~~~~~~~~~~ Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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Ra_8secs 1081 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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08-21-02, 08:00 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
First, thank you for drafting me for next season. Bows, obsequences, etc. Second, I'm confused about getting the "Thank, you, I think you've passed the audition" allrighty. Do you mean I should get scheduled/sign up for some other show's summary, or just write a couple at random as samples? The other shows could be quite interesting takes, since I've only logged about 30 minutes of BB3 in my tv excursions outside of survivor. PS, and yuck/yuck: Anna Nicole Smith's show, which I've only seen in news clips, seems to be so over the top farcical, that the only way to treat is as a serious socio-cultural documentary. You can't out satire sapphire. -- Ra and hugs and sunshine for all, Ra
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 08:45 PM (EST)
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24. "Summary "auditions"" |
Ra_8secs, basically there are a couple of choices. Choice #1: sign up for a summary on some other show. Right now, we're soliciting summary writers for Push, Nevada -- which isn't really a reality show, more like an interactive drama where we're supposed to pick up clues (like some computer games, I guess) -- and we still have a few openings. Obviously, we'll do summaries of "Mole 3" when it's on (but I'll bet there will be lots of people seeking the summary slots for it!). Choice #2: do a summary for some OTHER reality show for which we are not currently doing summaries. Yes, Anna Nicole is a possibility, although I can't imagine any sane person not feeling soiled by writing about her. But you could do any other show, too -- "Road Rules", "Real World" (whenever it's back on), "The Osbournes", or any other weird reality show that wanders across the pike (such as ABC's "The Bachelor" or Fox's "Bachelorettes in Alaska" or USA's "Combat Missions"). OK?
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LionChow 2033 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-22-02, 10:23 AM (EST)
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32. "RE: Summary "auditions"" |
>or any other weird reality show that >wanders across the pike (such >as ABC's "The Bachelor" or >Fox's "Bachelorettes in Alaska" If there's Bimbos and Himbos on or off the ice, I'm so there! Watching people attempt to base a life-long relationship on a reality TV show really gets the sarcasm flowing. I'll keep an eye out for summary writing opportunities.
I've got a Dill pickle for Stephanie!
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survivorscott 2191 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Roller Coaster Inaugurator"
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08-21-02, 08:14 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
I am ready, bring it on Come in a stranger,leave a little stranger
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Superman 3157 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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08-21-02, 10:34 PM (EST)
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25. "Lemme get this straight.." |
Survivor is still on the air?! I thought they cancelled it. *shrugs*Thanks for the episode AK and thanks for throwing my name out Dave!
Criminals From the Neck Up
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-02, 00:02 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Lemme get this straight.." |
You know I couldn't leave you out of the mix and I knew you wouldn't be around until today, so...And Aya, thanks so much for all the hard work and for the honor of summarizing the finale. I already have some ideas about how I can pay homage to all of the great summary writers. Should be fun. I can't promise a Jesus-bashing masterpiece like Supes delivered last season, but I'll do my very best. Ridiculous Lucky Cap'n Rabbit King, Lucky Cap'n Rabbit King Nuggets are for the youth! Criminals From the Neck Up
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Drive My Car 20045 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-02, 00:48 AM (EST)
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29. "Hey SuperHero Dude!!!" |
Sending Hugs and Love to SupeThanks to you, for being you! Ya never know about Supes internet connection, gotta send love when you have the chance.
Hey ya'll wanna see my incision?
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idiotcowboy 1135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest"
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08-21-02, 10:40 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Wow! That was quick It's great to see all the new faces mixed in with the others. I'm sure everyone will do great work. I remember when we used to have to beg people to do them... well I guess we never really had to beg that much on Survivor! I've known for a while I wouldn't be around much for S5, but I'll likely be back for S6 (assuming we don't have another inVEEsible winner... I HATED THAT). Anyway if you wind up needing a fill-in for S6 you can put my name in as an alterate to the alternates -ICB
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PepeLePew13 26135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-21-02, 11:53 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
Great to see such a good list of writers all signed up for the next two seasons of Survivor! I don't envy being in your position, AyaK -- the problem isn't that there's so many people who want to write an episode summary, but that there's so many damn good writers, it's hard to figure out where to fit all of us.I look forward to doing the Thanksgiving episode and especially to read all of the other summary writers so I can continue to learn a thing or two from each of you guys. Guys? Make sure somebody pisses you off, cuts you off in traffic, have a really crappy day at work, or whatever before you write your summary -- I've learned from personal experience that having an experience like that can really bump your writing to a new level! .......
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SurvivinDawg 6816 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-25-02, 10:40 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-25-02 AT 10:41 AM (EST)Guys? Make sure somebody pisses you off, cuts you off in traffic, have a really crappy day at work, or whatever before you write your summary -- I've learned from personal experience that having an experience like that can really bump your writing to a new level! I think before writing mine that I'll start a political thresd on Hillary Clinton... (*ducking for cover*) then again, maybe not... "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." -- Thomas PaineContradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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heresy 94 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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08-22-02, 03:33 PM (EST)
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33. "Question about bumping the guidelines" |
Since we're taking care of tasks for the next season, I was wondering whether someone should bump the "Spoiler Forum Guidelines" thread created by SurvivorBlows, or whether we should wait for one of the moderators to either create a new thread or bump it themselves.And, yes, I'm aware that this isn't related to this thread, but I didn't want to resurrect something from page 5 without knowing more about the guidelines.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-02, 03:53 PM (EST)
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34. "Go ahead!" |
heresy, feel free to bump the guidelines. If one of the mods wants to create a new thread ... well, you know, we're a pretty lazy bunch ...
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-02, 05:14 PM (EST)
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36. "Sounds good" |
As the person who originally assigned the voting thread to Superman ... sounds good to me.
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Swami 5885 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-22-02, 09:26 PM (EST)
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38. "Hey, Dave" |
When you work up your Rules of Response for the voting thresd, please consider asking peeps to omit their sig pic entirely. Many people already do this to reduce the size of the thread, and it helps a lot. That thresd gets huge so fast! It's nice to read people's reasoning, but not if it locks up your 'puter.Swami
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NightScribe 761 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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08-26-02, 02:00 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
What an incredible line up you've put together AK! You managed to snag OFG, dk, and Buggy in one season! And GT & Dalton in one summary? Will we be able to stand it? I'm very much looking forward to reading the summaries this season. Great job!
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drawde236 317 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-28-02, 01:58 PM (EST)
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45. "One way ticket to the blacklist" |
AyaK,Greetings from your problem child. Even though I have yet to write a review (next Thursday is my solo...this Saturday is a tagteam with AMAI), I need to switch my week. I will be in Cozamel from October 10th-14th and I do not want to make everyone wait for the recap until the 15th. I am not fussy and do not care which week. If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it. I do want to thank you, however, for including me in such a great list of writers. thanks drawde Slackers Unite! Tomorrow.
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-28-02, 09:33 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: One way ticket to the blacklist" |
Just speaking for myself, drawde, I don't mind having to wait a bit for the summ to be posted, if that's how it has to be then that's how it has to be.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-28-02, 10:00 PM (EST)
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47. "Well..." |
LAST EDITED ON 08-28-02 AT 10:01 PM (EST)I almost scheduled you for week 3 and Naked for Week 4 -- now I wish I had. But needing a schedule change because you have a real life won't get you on the blacklist. Naked, are you willing to switch to Week 4?
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-28-02, 10:06 PM (EST)
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48. "While you're considering requests for shuffling..." |
Please disregard my conditional offer to shuffle up the thread. I will stick with Ep 8. Hey, Kelly G., John, traditionally the first jury member--it's a great spot in the game and you gave it to me, so I'll go on the Aya Knows Best theory and stick with the original plan.
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-29-02, 10:34 AM (EST)
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49. "Yep -- and E5" |
E8 has been, in the last two Survivors, the key strategic episode -- well suited for a spoiler to write the summary, and that is indeed why I gave it to you, OFG, since you're the preeminent spoiler who is also a summary writer!But ... that still leaves us with a problem -- would anyone with a later episode like to switch with Teddy_Bear in Week 5? E5 has normally been fun too -- it was when Kimmi, Silas and Gabe got booted, so it's wide open for a serious basher...
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-29-02, 11:22 AM (EST)
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50. "RE: Yep -- and E5" |
Is there any possibility at all that I could be moved up a week to Episode #6?, cuz I think that while it wouldn't be as good as ep 7, but it would be DEFINATLY preferrable to Episode 5. --which I will write as promised, but just one week shouldn't be too difficult to change...
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dangerkitty 1913 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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08-29-02, 03:10 PM (EST)
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51. "Nope" |
Teddy Bear, I'll answer this in the forum since that is where you posted it. I wouldn't have even known it was here if someone hadn't notified me. You should not be requesting to be moved up to Episode 6 (AyaK is done with the schedule); what you are requesting is to trade with me. First of all, I can't do Episode 5 due to a scheduling conflict. And frankly, I don't know that I would trade with you even if I could (in spite of how tempting AyaK makes Ep 5 sound.) I am aghast at the number of posts you have made in this thread, trying to get the "perfect" episode. You clearly stated in your original post requesting a summary that you would do ANY episode except #1, and while you went so far as to post an order of preference - do you really expect AyaK to hassle with that? What if EVERYONE had an order of preference, and demanded that AyaK honor it? He's generously giving a ton of his valuable time to organize this, and it's bad enough that he had to deal with an over-abundance of volunteers to try and place, plus many of us did have dates that we absolutely couldn't write on. And you want to keep stirring the pot? Please, get over it. Either write the summary you have been assigned, or bow out and let an alternate take it. You've already requested trades and been turned down. It's time to let it go.
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-30-02, 00:25 AM (EST)
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55. "RE: Not surprised" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-30-02 AT 01:16 AM (EST)My apologies DK, I too have several REAL sheduling conflicts--which I am trying to work around. Despite these conflicts, and--yes they do exist--I am willing to honour my commitment to AyaK, and this board by writing my summary--as promised. I made this request here, because it would have resolved a lot of problems for a lot of people--IN ADDITION To Me--I now realise that you, unfortunately aren't one of them. While I do agree with you, that it would have been more considerate, and appropriate--at this time--to have contacted you privately; I was pessimistic what would have been accomplished. |=Had Her Expectations Met Light a Virtual Candle~~~Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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drawde236 317 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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08-29-02, 03:24 PM (EST)
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52. "Kill two birds with one stone?" |
AyaK,I'll gladly switch week 4 for week 5. If this is ok with Teddy Bear, it will solve both of our/your problems. Slackers Unite! Tomorrow.
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-30-02, 00:33 AM (EST)
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56. "Sorry, but no" |
My sheduling conflicts would in actuality be worsened by doing that. They, on the other hand would have been alleviated by being moved up to a later summary.Unfortunately it doesn't appear that this is likely to happen; so yes I am giving up, unless another S5 writer offers to switch with me for a later episode. Unless that were to magiacally happen, I will stick with the episode I have been assigned, and continue to hope for the best. Light a Virtual Candle~~~Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 01:30 AM (EST)
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57. "RE: Sorry, but no" |
Yay! <1>TB, the episode you have is usually a good <2>juicy one as the players have been out there <3>long enough to really get on each others' nerves, I'm sure you'll have a lot of <4>fun with it. It's a shame about your scheduling conflict, but pretty much <5>everyone who commits to writing a summary <6>has to work it out to meet the commitment as best as they can. And I'm certain that if you wanted <7>some help, like someone to commit to taping the episode for you in <8>case of a power outage or something where you live, or simply to email you <9>suggestions of bits you might use, peeps on this board will be <10>more than happy to step up and help out if they can.drawde, as I said <11>before, I don't mind having to wait until Tuesday for the summary, if that's how it <12>has to be then that's just how it has to be. And to <13>reiterate what I said to TB, if you want to <14>ask for some backup assistance, for example someone to <15>tape the episode and snailmail it to you so it will be there <16>waiting for you when you get home, just in case you might need it, I'm sure <17>someone around here would be happy to accomodate you in that way. Let's see if we can't get this all <18>finalized and shored up (barring unexpected things which <19>could crop up somewhere along the way), okay. Everyone will <20>rest easier about this if things are settled, and gosh we've got some <21>serious spoiling, bashing, and fanaticking to get to! <22>just testing this number thing out, it doesn't mean anything, ignore it mmkay. SMILES ARE FREE
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 03:20 AM (EST)
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60. "RE: Sorry, but no" |
dabs, I can't ignore your freaky number thing because you say it means nothing, you should know better... 22 is a highly esoteric number; ask the Freemasons, ya know.Testing it, eh? well if it's anything like sex: if you have to wonder if it's working, it probably isn't If it's working, you'll know. Oh, we're not talking about sex? My bad. I saw dangerkitty posting and just assumed she would hijack the thread.
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Silvergirl1 9342 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 02:37 AM (EST)
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58. "RE: Sorry, but no" |
Don't forget that I am your summary writing partner and not to worry. We will work this thing out. I will be in touch with you by email, okay? Come on in, the water's fine!
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AyaK 10426 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 10:58 AM (EST)
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61. "S5 Scheduling" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-30-02 AT 09:08 PM (EST)I just wanted to discuss what went into the S5 scheduling, for no particular reason other than to blab... I offered landruajm E1 because (1) I like to alternate E1 writers, so everybody gets a chance, (2) landruajm was a dedicated basher, and (3) landruajm had asked for TAR2 E1 but I gave it to SherpaDave instead. So let's go from there... Generally, anyone that I would ask to write a finale summary for Survivor will have either written an E7 summary or a finale summary for another show (yeah, I know I've never posted that, but this is the post where I give away the secrets). Leaving out shakes, Superman, dangerkitty and myself (who wrote the 4 previous Survivor finales), here were the choices: Previous Survivor E7 writers: SherpaDave, HawkEye. Previous finale writers for other shows: TeamJoisey (TAR1), Lisapooh (TAR2), Jonnycumlately (Bachelorettes in Alaska), SurvivinDawg (Combat Missions). Thus, of the people who signed up, my first choices to write the finale were SherpaDave, Lisapooh and SurvivinDawg. I also included Survivorerist in that mix, because I've loved his summaries, even though he's never done a Survivor summary before (I have to admit that, even though it really complicated the story-telling, I thought the "contestant rebellion" in BlowsVivor E6 was one of the funniest things I'd ever read). Dawg, however, made it clear that he didn't want to write the finale -- he wanted to write a first episode. And, as it happened, Pooh didn't win a spot in S5 in the lottery. So I asked Sherps to do the S5 finale and Pooh to do the S6 finale, who both accepted, and I gave Survivorerist S5 E7 -- the normal "prequalifier" for a finale writer. OK, three positions down, eleven to go. I knew who the lottery winners were, so I knew my pool to work from. dangerkitty had said that she couldn't write an episode before 10/17 and that she was going out of town on 10/12 or 10/13. I knew how variable her schedule has been, so I gave her the first episode that I thought she'd be back in town and able to do -- 10/24 (E6). Outfrontgirl had asked for an episode with lots of strategy and spoiling interest -- in the last two Survivors, E8 has been #1 in that regard. I wanted to separate Superman and dangerkitty in the schedule, since they were the two previous finale writers ... but I didn't want Superman to do the episode right before the finale, because that would put the "Criminals" back-to-back. Normally, I would have given him E10, but that was on U.S. Thanksgiving ... which left E11. Femme had volunteered to do the recap; no one else seemed to want it. Pepe had volunteered to do the U.S. Thanksgiving episode; most of us didn't want it. So ... at this point, here was my schedule: E1: landruajm E2-E5: blank E6: dangerkitty E7: Survivorerist E7.5: Femme E8: Outfrontgirl E9: blank E10: PepeLePew13 E11: Superman E12: blank E13: SherpaDave As you can see, the schedule had filled up fast. I also wanted to separate George Tirebiter and Dalton from dangerkitty and OFG in the schedule, and I thought they'd fit in well between the Criminals. So, E12. That left 5 slots and 5 writers: Bebo, Naked, drawde236, Teddy_Bear, and DriveMyCar. Of these, I knew I was going to offer Bebo the finale in TAR3, and she'd also volunteered to write a Push, Nevada summary, so I put her in the E2 slot, to minimize conflicts between the timing. Now, I had the E9 slot open, and two people who both were interested in being pushed back in the schedule: Teddy_Bear and DriveMyCar (EBug). EBug was recovering from surgery, and I had no idea that E5 would present so much of a problem for Teddy_Bear, so I gave E9 to EBug and E5, the latest remaining slot, to Teddy. That left E3 and E4, and I just assigned them randomly between Naked and drawde236. So ... that's the story of the S5 schedule. The S6 schedule went through a similar process, but it doesn't seem to have attracted as much attention yet, so I'll keep it to myself. I think we've reached the end of the discussion here. Teddy_Bear and Silvergirl1, you two still have E5. Teddy, since Silvergirl1 is the first alternate for S5, if the time slot is too much of a problem, my suggestion would be to let Silvergirl1 do the summary by herself. Edited for spelling and a tense mismatch.
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PepeLePew13 26135 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 11:29 AM (EST)
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62. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-30-02 AT 11:30 AM (EST)Sounds reasonable and works for me. I think you did a great job with what you had to work with for the list, AyaK. NOW can we let this thread stop with the pleas and discussions about who's writing where and when? If people still need to switch, how about just doing it through email to the other person you'd like to switch with or to AyaK directly? About 20 or so of the 61 posts in this thread has been about person(s) not being satisfied with where they're placed. I understand there's tremendous desire to write an episode but there's so much competition out there -- if a person gets handed a slot and it's not good, but can't resolve it quickly and discreetly through emails, then let someone else have it. It's starting to come across as a kindergarten battle over who get which crayon colour to draw with. Sorry, just venting. .......
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 02:45 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
>It's starting to come across as a kindergarten battle over who >get which crayon colour to draw with. I agree, I'm sorry folks, but it's clear the AK has put more work into this than anyone would deem reasonable. I'd suggest that people work things out among yourselves, but since it's obvious that's not working out all I can say is that if additional availability restrictions have come up since you first supplied AK with your availability, well, then frankly there's not much we can do, that's why AK went through the whole process of asking you all up front about any availability restrictions. If circumstances have changed and you're no longer going to be able to write that slot then fine, we'll find someone else to fill that slot and we'll do our best to re-schedule you for some future season -- but we're not going to reschedule the whole schedule due to someone's new unavailability. We've tried to make reasonable accommedations for people -- but the time for notifications of scheduling conflicts has come and gone. No one is under any obligation to write a summary, if you can't, you can't, all we ask is that you let us know in advance so that we can attempt to schedule a replacement. -SB
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Outfrontgirl 6830 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 02:58 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
LMAO AyaK>>I also wanted to separate George Tirebiter and Dalton from dangerkitty and OFG M'kay, so it sounds like either we 4 had to be separated because a) too much squabbling, needed a TIME OUT or b) we are really just a 4-way split personality of one poster and you didn't want one poster to write 3 consecutive episodes If a) I'll try to do better; can't speak for the others. If b) Excu-u-u-se me, Rocky! (For crowding your territory) >>I thought they'd fit in well between the Criminals. We'll see how well the Criminals like being the bread to the Dalton/GT sandwich filling! And vice versa... Should be interesting. Or are you saying they'd fit in because they should be institutionalized. Hmmm Whatever your thoughts, I'm sure they were right on. I don't know where I'm a gonna go when the volcano blow *hopes everyone knows I am just kidding around here*
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 04:29 PM (EST)
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65. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
I love it when Aya feels like blabbing. This was totally fascinating to me. Several "ah, so that's why" moments. Boy, is it just sad that I find the actual process of scheduling the writers interesting or what?And kudos for creating the Dalton/GT meat sandwiched between Superman and SherpaDave bread. I don't know why, but that just makes me giggle (okay, who am I kidding, it's because Dalton looks like Natlie Wood--yum). Criminals From the Neck Up
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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08-30-02, 04:51 PM (EST)
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66. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
Wow! My head's spinning. I knew you had a tough challenge ahead of you scheduling all of these summaries, but I didn't realize all of the factors you were trying to take into consideration.As someone who's written summaries for multiple shows, I've learned that there is enough material in ANY of these shows for a kick-ass bashing summary. If the events aren't pivotal to the outcome (for example, anything about Vee on S4), then there are always silly contestant behaviors to poke. And you've always got to be on the lookout for classic lines. For example, in last night's BB3, I howled when Roddy asked Gerry, "Did you just call me stupid?", and I envy the summary writer who gets to take that line and run. And speaking of stupid, it didn't matter what else happened in Rob's "Do I look like I have stupid written across my forehead" episode, there was a gold mine there. Besides, we've already been given the juicy nugget that we have Porno Boy in this cast, so I just can't wait to see what else turns up. (apologies for including "poke" and "turns up" in that paragraph) AyaK, thanks for all of the effort you put into this. I was tickled when you scheduled me for the TAR finale, but I can assure you that I'll do any summary assigned to me, as long as I'm in town to write it. There's always fun to be had! Evil, rude, snotty, and proud of it!
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Teddy_Bear 1675 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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08-30-02, 06:53 PM (EST)
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67. "I commit to doing an Episode 5 summary, and will stick to it--no matter what!!" |
LAST EDITED ON 08-30-02 AT 07:05 PM (EST)>I think we've reached the end of the discussion here. Teddy_Bear and Silvergirl1, you two still have E5. Teddy, since Silvergirl1 is the first>alternate for S5, if the time slot is too much of a problem, my suggestion would be to let Silvergirl1 do the summary by herself.< AyaK, I gave you my commitment to writing an S5 summary--Episode #5 or later--WHENEVER It Was, and I have NEVER wavered from it. And yes, while a LATER summary would have made my life much easier; I will find some way of working out my scheduling conflicts; as I do want an S5 summary, and will do WHATEVER is necessary to meet my commitments. Btw, I do agree with you that Silvergirl1 DESERVES to have her own summary. I feel very honoured that she is being kind enough to contribute her talent, insight, and wit, for the purposes of collaborating with me. I also apologise for being so insensitive to eBug's recovery, and I'm very glad it is going well. I am sorry if I unwittingly gave you, or--ANYONE ELSE the FALSE belief that ANYTHING would prevent me from doing my summary. (All I had been trying to do was to--albeit very strongly--state my wish for a late-October-to November time slot.) I ACCEPT that this is NOT possible, and am extemely GREATFUL to you for even considering me for the honour of writing one. I apologise to everyone here, for my oblivious selfishnes in putting my personal needs over everyone else's. I feel very ashamed. My pre-summary jitters have obviously interfered with my ability to be objective, and it won't happen again. Again, I'm extremely sorry. Plese don't be angry at me AyaK; I am going through an extremely difficult time right now, and am overstressed. This, however, will have no bearing WHATSOEVER on my ability to write my episode 5 summary. |='s Sorry To Have Been such a Pest Light a Virtual Candle~~~Eleanor Roosevelt: No one can make YOU feel inferior without YOUR consent!
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HawkEye 418 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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08-30-02, 07:11 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: S5 Scheduling" |
>Previous Survivor E7 writers: SherpaDave, HawkEye. >Previous finale writers for other shows: TeamJoisey >(TAR1), Lisapooh (TAR2), Jonnycumlately (Bachelorettes >in Alaska), SurvivinDawg (Combat Missions).Nice to be mentioned in such fine company. For what it's worth I think you did a great job! HawkEye <who needs a sig pic!> Nothing can hide from the eye of a HAWK, especially a fine cast of summary writers! hehe now all the new peeps get to see what hard work this is *wink*
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AMAI 1254 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beef Jerky Spokesperson"
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11-27-02, 06:50 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: S5 and S6 Summary Schedule" |
I hope I'm not on your secret blacklist list - but I'm guessing you wouldn't be letting me post recaps at all if I were?I never saw this thread, but would like to OFFICIALLY request to be on your list of alternates, contenders, recappers to be considered for the next season.
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