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"The Cut"
Did anyone watch?

It was really an Apprentice rip-off. With the famous last line "You are out of style".

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: The Cut volsfan 06-09-05 1
   RE: The Cut ConsiderThis 06-10-05 2
   RE: The Cut zinnia 06-13-05 18
 RE: The Cut likethedirection 06-10-05 3
 RE: The Cut Jealousy 06-10-05 4
 RE: The Cut CattyChat 06-10-05 5
   RE: The Cut DonnaLynn 06-10-05 6
   RE: The Cut okaychatt 06-11-05 15
 RE: The Cut Pretty_Kitty 06-10-05 7
 RE: The Cut Loree 06-10-05 8
   RE: The Cut ginger 06-10-05 9
       RE: The Cut Tahj 06-10-05 10
           RE: The Cut ginger 06-10-05 11
               RE: The Cut Tahj 06-10-05 12
                   RE: The Cut ginger 06-10-05 13
                       RE: The Cut Tahj 06-10-05 14
 RE: The Cut seahorse 06-12-05 16
   RE: The Cut foonermints 06-13-05 17
 RE: The Cut TourGirl 06-16-05 19
   RE: The Cut okaychatt 06-17-05 21
 RE: The Cut zoolander1 06-16-05 20
   RE: The Cut volsfan 06-17-05 22
   RE: The Cut CattyChat 06-17-05 23
       RE: The Cut volsfan 06-17-05 24
           RE: The Cut Swami 06-17-05 25
               RE: The Cut volsfan 06-17-05 26
                   RE: The Cut pmspml5 06-17-05 27
                       RE: The Cut CattyChat 06-17-05 28
                           RE: The Cut ginger 06-17-05 29
                           RE: The Cut volsfan 06-17-05 30
                           RE: The Cut Swami 06-17-05 31
               RE: The Cut Loree 06-23-05 32
 July 23rd ep Loree 06-23-05 33
   RE: July 23rd ep volsfan 06-23-05 34
   RE: July 23rd ep leggs77 06-23-05 35
   RE: July 23rd ep sbeck 06-23-05 36
       RE: July 23rd ep birdie05 06-24-05 37
       RE: July 23rd ep Swami 06-24-05 38
           RE: July 23rd ep DonnaLynn 06-24-05 39
               RE: July 23rd ep Swami 06-24-05 40
                   RE: July 23rd ep ginger 06-24-05 41
                       RE: June 23rd ep mhdallas 06-24-05 42
                           RE: June 23rd ep Bebo 06-24-05 43
                               RE: June 23rd ep pmspml5 06-24-05 44

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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings
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06-09-05, 10:00 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: The Cut"
I did watch it. I liked it and thought it was ok. Tommy was better than Donald I thought. I think the peeps are interesting too.
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06-10-05, 02:08 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: The Cut"
I thought the two billboards were really interesting.

I liked it.

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06-13-05, 01:52 AM (EST)
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18. "RE: The Cut"
I was pretty AMAZED by the group art project strategy....I would have sent everyone to their corner for an hour to sketch out a concept and then present their concept for a vote.

-=Z

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06-10-05, 08:47 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: The Cut"
Complete Apprentice rip-off, but it was enjoyable. I'll continue to watch, especially since there aren't any other reality shows to steal my attention until July.
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06-10-05, 08:52 AM (EST)
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4. "RE: The Cut"
I watched it and liked it. Yeah, it was very apprentice-ish, but a lot of reality shows are nowadays.

I thought both billboards weren't very good at all. One wasted a lot of space by leaving the sides empty (doesn't catch the attention), while the other was very very sloppy.

Anyway, I thought it was an entertaining program and I'll most likely continue to watch.

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06-10-05, 09:00 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: The Cut"
Watched it and liked it, but a little dry. I think Project Runway was so much better. I guess, I'll give it some more time to see how it progresses.

I just would rather see the contestants designing clothing to see who is the most creative & talented as a clothing designer. Why are they designing Escalades next week? I think this is (as Apprentice has turned into) a little too "commercialized."

Looking forward to Season 2 of Project Runway.

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06-10-05, 11:42 AM (EST)
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6. "RE: The Cut"
Loved it! I thought both billboards sucked royal! The first thing I thought when I saw the billboard on the left was, "Why didn't they use the whole billboard?" HELLO! That was so dumb!

The line "you're out of style" was so cheesy but I liked Tommy... I think that guy who has an afro and wore just jeans and a t-shirt was a dork. Come on, how is he going to be the next fashion designer if he doesn't know how to dress himself?

--Donna :~)

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06-11-05, 04:18 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: The Cut"
<I think Project Runway was so much better

Agreed, cattychat. The tasks were actually related to fashion design, plus we didn't have to contend with Hilfiger's billboard sized ego.

Like Trump, he never lets the viewer focus on the candidates. I find both Trump and Hilfilger extremely annoying.

Also, this show is a huge rip off of Project Runway, and copy cats are rarely as good as the original.

When does the new Project Runway start?


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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06-10-05, 12:47 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: The Cut"
I thought it was OK but not nearly as good as Project Runway

Felix is already on my nerves along with the s!utty girl and loud mouth guy I really cant wait for Big Brother to start so my Thursday nights are fun again

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06-10-05, 01:01 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: The Cut"
I did not like either billboard either. I would like to see them do more clothes designing. And it will probably be more enjoyable once I know their names.
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06-10-05, 01:43 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: The Cut"
I would have liked the flag-in-the-middle one if the Hillfiger name had been bigger and bolder. The other billboard (although yes yes yes, Felix, it featured the sheer marketing GEENYUS that was making a pun out of Tommy's name) looked like stuff I doodled on my binders in 1971.

Why did the chick who looks like Roseanne Barr in a blonde wig freak out towards the end? I left the room for a minute.

Hillfiger looks like a gloomy chimp. The chair he sat in for all of five seconds, and that lame-o slogan? Cheeeeezeeeeeeey. But there was nothing else on and I liked Project Runway and I watch the Apprentice so I'll probably keep up with this one, if only out of inertia.


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06-10-05, 02:14 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: The Cut"
Ditto, Ginger, to everything you said.

She freaked out because she was working on the billboard all night in the rain while the other women just sat it out. The blonde's coat got all wet and she was pissed at the other women because they didn't take care of it for her.

"Kept" and "Strip Search" were on at the same time so you might want to check those out if you haven't already.


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11. "RE: The Cut"
I actually watched a lot of "Kept" (hey, if I were Jerry Hall and they offered me big bucks to audition cabana boys, I'd do the show, too) and was mildly amused. But they booted one of the guys I liked last night! And then Stripper Doods or whatever it's called came on and it was beefcake overkill; I'd had enough.

It is so funny to hear how seriously people take these things, though. These guys are auditioning to be lapdogs, and they act like it's an interview the Nobel Prize committee.


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12. "RE: The Cut"
It is so funny to hear how seriously people take these things, though. These guys are auditioning to be lapdogs, and they act like it's an interview the Nobel Prize committee.

Yeah, but I think it may be more about their chance to make a lot of money quickly and achieve some notoriety. It could be their only shot and so it kind of intensifies the experience. They put a lot of pressure on themselves.


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06-10-05, 06:31 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: The Cut"
Well, filling Mick's shoes is pretty stressful.



And very complicated.

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06-10-05, 06:37 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: The Cut"
And not something that seems very appealing to me, not because I'm gay, but because Jerry Hall is not particularly attractive.


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06-12-05, 08:33 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Cut"
I missed it but will try to catch it this week.


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06-13-05, 00:57 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: The Cut"
I didn't realize it started yet. I'm watching this week.


Why does Tommy need the exposure when he got it from his last model on Survivor?

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06-16-05, 09:07 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: The Cut"
I haven't watched it yet but plan on tuning in tonight. Disappointing to hear it's not as good as Project Runway, cause I LOVED that one! Just wondering if anyone has the scoop on Chris S., the guy from Nashville. Anyone know what restaurant he owns?

Sara

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06-17-05, 07:13 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: The Cut"
<Chris S., the guy from Nashville

Just found out he was in my SIL's fraternity at Vanderbilt. Chris S. is two years younger. No idea what his restaurant is - I'll try to find out.

I'm so excited - my very first loose connection to a reality star. Sure gives my ego a boost. (NOT!)


Everyone is entitled to my opinion.

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06-16-05, 08:07 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: The Cut"
is this show for real? i mean c'mon.
i guess tommy and execs are trying to differentiate themselves from the much superior 'project runway', but this sad attempt at a reality show sucks.
designing a billboard. call me silly, but isn't that a job more suited for a graphic designer? not a fashion designer!
call me stupid again, but isn't pimping out trucks a job best suited for detailers? not fashion designers!
the winner will get a job designing clothes, right?. or will he/she be relegated to one of tommy's less successful brands?
i am lost.
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22. "RE: The Cut"
designing a billboard. call me silly, but isn't that a job more suited for a graphic designer? not a fashion designer!

No, the actual design of billboards and all types of advertising materials is based on the company and advertising agencies. Tommy has complete control over what the ads look like and the content...unless he has relagated that to someone else (which I can't see happening with someone that has that big of an ego). I am sure the ad agencies would use graphic designers to pull together the ideas but the graphic designer would not be expected to come up with the actual billboard.

isn't pimping out trucks a job best suited for detailers? not fashion designers!

Probably, but there are ways employers test their employees that have nothing to do with their educated skill sets. Like sending two of the peeps to the red carpet and interview stars...that had nothing to do with designing clothes but the information gathered had lots to do with how successful these peeps could be in a business setting. If peeps can't be social with potential/current customers then they are doomed to not be that successful in those types of settings.


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06-17-05, 08:20 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: The Cut"
I agree with you Zoo. I am really disappointed in this show. I loved Project Runway and was looking forward to seeing "Fashion Designers" competing and seeing all of their creativity.

I wish Shannon would have followed through with her leaving the show, because "I thought I would be DESIGNING CLOTHING."

I do understand that fashion involves advertising and making customers happy, but let's be serious here. If you plan to design clothing, you need to have those skills first and foremost.

Hardly any of the candidates have any background in designing CLOTHING, so I don't understand what this show is looking for. My guess is, a gopher/assistant for Tommy's company. I'm sure many of them could fetch coffee and answer the phone, if nothing else.

In my view this show goes down in the WTF category.

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06-17-05, 09:34 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: The Cut"
I see many people here saying they want this show to be like Project Runway because it is such a great show (and I am not arguing that point) however, how many people would be here protesting the fact that The Cut was a cheap rip-off of Project Runway?

Also, legally maybe the network didn't want to be too much like Project Runway due to law suits by ripping off the show. See how much flack FOX has been given for ripping off shows and rushing to get them on the air before the original idea gets aired.

I am sure there are reasons why the first part of the series has been the way it is. I bet that in the future they will be designing clothes in challenges.

Also, take The Apprentice into consideration. The challenges Donald makes them do doesn't have that much to do with being his Apprentice. Selling pizza and promoting rock stars come to mind right off the bat.


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06-17-05, 09:46 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: The Cut"
I saw the tail end of the first ep and the entire second ep of this show, and I think I like it. While the tasks are not straight-out clothes designing, the big name clothes designers are active & creative in all kinds of fields and do a variety of things--if their client wants his/her car accessorized the client gets what they want. It's just their clothes lines that pay for the limos & stuff, and what most people are familiar with..

I thought the car design thing seemed reasonable and it sure show-cased that neither Princess or the one who got voted off had a clue about how to listen or relate to a client. They are both lost in egoland. As big as Hilfiger's ego seems, I bet he can turn it right off as needed when he is relating to a celebrity.

I like Hilfiger more than I would have thought. He has a big ego, true, but he has the presence to pull it off. I dislike the cheesy kiss-off line, however.


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06-17-05, 09:56 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: The Cut"
I agree...as I mentioned above there are many ways employers can test employees to see if they have a certain skill set that is important in their line of work. Most of the time that test does not involve the industry they are specialist in.


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27. "RE: The Cut"
I love this show. I think that the earlier episodes will have less to do with clothing and more to do with the other qualities he is looking for. I am sure that all of the contestants had to show their designing projects or they would have not been considered for this show. I am sure that TH is well aware of what they can do with clothes at this point.

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28. "RE: The Cut"
If you look at the bios on the Web site, only FOUR of the contestents are actually clothing designers -- James (clothing manufacturer), Rob (clothing artist), Shauna (designer), Tommy (designer). The rest are anywhere from absolutely nothing to do with the business (i.e. restaurant manager), some designing background, although not clothing (i.e. handbags & skate boards) and just people who like clothes (i.e. personal shopper or shop owners/managers).

I agree this shouldn't be too close to Runway, BUT if the point is finding someone to DESIGN under Tommy's name, shouldn't you have some clue about designing clothes? This last challenge, on the one team, only James knew how to sew.

Is Tommy going to teach his protege how to sew and all the intricacies of the clothing business and clothing designing basics?

I will continue to watch the show to see how it progresses. Seems as though we already know who the final four will be IF it is a CLOTHING designer Tommy is looking for to DESIGN A CLOTHING LINE. This early in the game, my money is on Shauna or Rob.

I do like how Tommy is no nonsense and straight to the point, rather than doing a Trump imitation. He obviously is keeping close tabs of what's going on during the challenges and is calling the right people into the pit.

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29. "RE: The Cut"
Damnit. I forgot.



Is some lovely person writing me a summary?

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30. "RE: The Cut"
I don't know exactly what Hilfinger is looking for...maybe he wants someone to train and mold to fit into his company. No matter what these peeps design, he will have to sign off on it. Maybe all of his designers have the same types of backgrounds as the peeps on the show.


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31. "RE: The Cut"
Lots & lots of artistic people sew very well, and design & sew clothing even though it is not the profession by which they make a living. These people with other professions may very well have spent years designing clothes for themselves & their friends--just never been able to make it into a profession that would support the lifestyle they wanted.


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32. "RE: The Cut"
Princess was driving me up the wall. She wanted to design it the way she liked it instead of the way the client wanted. I would be surprised her ego could fit in the SUV.
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33. "July 23rd ep"
Could Princess get anymore annoying? I couldn't believe her at the party.
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34. "RE: July 23rd ep"
Elisabeth got on my nerves this week. I was surprised to see Chris S. go.


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35. "RE: July 23rd ep"
I thought Tommy should of cut her after her "juicy" poem she receited at the party, what was that about????
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36. "RE: July 23rd ep"
I know! WTF? She and that other guy from her team, basically telling TH that they'd be partners were he selected. And that one woman (sorry - I forget their names!) who called gay men and women "those types of people" -- what's wrong with them? But Princess and that other guy were very lucky their team did well this week, that's for sure...
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37. "RE: July 23rd ep"
Yeah, seriously. I think Princess is on something if she thinks that sort of behavior is going to get her a job with TH. And Jeff should be "out of style" just on principal. And that girl Julie? She pretty much shot her self in the foot at the style forum. what an idiot. I really got annoyed with Shauna tonight. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw her in a floor length fur with big diamond earrings calling liz "nuveau riche". Has she looked in the mirror lately? I think she needs contacts. And It's obvious those two girls (shauna and blondie) are jelous of liz. they will probably rip on Jessicca next week. Considering Liz and Jess are the only two hotties in the bunch. can't wait to see EP4. It's heating up.
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38. "RE: July 23rd ep"
"that one woman (sorry - I forget their names!) who called gay men and women "those types of people"

Oh, the look on Hilfiger's face when she said that was priceless! What a moron she is! He had to ask her about 5 questions before she even realized 'oops; I may have just screwed up'.

The way you talk to people, honey, is you just talk to them. I'm from the Midwest too and you freaked me out!


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39. "RE: July 23rd ep"
I don't know why the girls had a problem with Liz. She DID do all the planning of the Cotton Club. That girl with the two toned hair, OMG, she makes me so mad! I really cannot stand her or her little friend either!!!

As far as Studio 54, I was not impressed at all! Tommy told them over and over that they needed to do research and to not "reinvent the place" but to "duplicate it"... The first place I would have gone is the WWW and do searches and get pictures. Everyone knows about the "VIP" room there and the one they made was a joke! Heck, they could have rented the movie "54" and could have copied it from that. However, I don't think Chris (was that his name?) should have gone. The blonde lady who can't handle dealing with gay people should have been thrown out! I'm from the mid-west, am a Christian and personally don't think it's morally right to be gay, however, I have gay friends and respect their right to live as they choose. I would never talk down to someone else because they aren't the same as me and the fact that this woman was so rude about it floored me. Especially in the designer world! HELLO! I think there are more gay designers than are striaght. Why is she here???

I agree about Princess. I wanted her gone last week. She thinks her s**t don't stink and that she knows all. I was embaressed for her reciting that poem. She's not at some party in Harlem for goodness sakes, she's in the Hamptons! Doesn't she realize that everything she does is on camera?

Mike (the bald guy) also needs to go. He also thinks he's this great designer and that he's like God or something...

At this point, my money is on the big guy with the afro (can't think of his name) but he really holds himself well, knows how to sew and can actually design. He just really needs a makeover! LOL

--Donna :~)

P.S. Is it just me, or is it really hard to remember who's who in this show as far as their names go?

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40. "RE: July 23rd ep"
I can't remember any names. They need to flash them on-screen now & then during every show so we can learn them.


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41. "RE: July 23rd ep"
First, WAH! Tommy cut the cute guy!

I think Liz is a tad obnoxious but competent and the other two (Cameron Manheim and the Blonde Roseanne Barr) have bonded and are a wee bit gellus. Although I don't dislike either of them, YET.

Princess? I hated her from the first time I heard her name. And it didn't get better.

I think the Cotton Club looked great. The hairstylist was a fab idea.

I think Julie was naiive and ignorant and it cracked me up that she felt she couldn't, well, speak Gay. Like it's French, or Espanol. On the other hand, whathisface couldn't have been more sniffy/queeny; I don't think he really did much to open her little mind. At any rate, she needs to rethink the whole 60s minidress go go boots thing at her age. She'll be kept around so we can feel contempt for her.


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06-24-05, 01:40 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: June 23rd ep"
I love this show - it's almost as good as Wickedly Perfect was (and I'm not into either clothes or home decorating so the fact that I've enjoyed both these shows so much is kind of surprising.) I love watching the interaction between such different personalities - but am really RELIEVED that the slutty girl who thought she could just flirt her way into stardom is gone. What a joke. The next to go has to be Princess - her behavior at the party last night was beyond embarrassing. Although I've got to admit that the blond woman who insulted homosexuals everywhere was pretty offensive herself - especially if she wants to work in the fashion industry. Poor Tommy's going to have a rough time trying to decide which one of these two needs to be gone first!

I was shocked that Chris had to leave last night. Even though his team lost, still...he seemed to have all the ideas and did the majority of the work. Surely, that should've counted for something. He definitely deserved another chance more than that blond thing.

I think Wes is the doll of the bunch (and I loved all his face time), but that bald Captain Picard looking man with the overly inflated ego needs to get a serious grip on himself before he too is 'out of style'.

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06-24-05, 01:57 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: June 23rd ep"
I wasn't at all surprised that Chris got the boot. If that was showing his strength, well, he just doesn't have it together enough to get the job done. He claimed to have done the research, but he couldn't execute it.

Julie will get hers sooner or later. So will Princess and Jeff. They've given TH the ammo that he can use at any time to get rid of them. If he doesn't have a clear-cut choice during a future elimination, he can just call one of them out, mention the glaring character flaw, and then cut them for either not working hard enough to prove their worthiness or for sticking their necks out and falling flat.

I was ready to turn this show off, but the fact that the outrageous characters are not going to be rewarded is making me get interested. Memo to The Apprentice team: some of us would rather watch the crass and tacky get canned, not given starring roles.

Was the "you hire him or I will" comment foreshadowing a James victory?


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06-24-05, 02:04 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: June 23rd ep"
That or the fact he makes it far. Right now I'd say that Jeff/Julie/Princess will go next in some order with maybe one other person in there. I think Wes/Elizabeth/Jessica/Shauna/Tommy will be the next group to go - we are getting way to much of them this early in the show.

I think that your winner will be from Rob/Chris C/Deanna/Felix/or James

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