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"I have a possible bootlist spoiler"
Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-15-15, 00:46 AM (EST)
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1. "Here is what the bootlist said" |
20.Vytas 19.Shirin 18.PG 17.Jeff 16.Monica 15.Terry(quit) 14.WooMerge(mostly accurate) 13.Kass 12.Stephen 11.Kelly 10.Ciera 9.Savage 8.Joe 7.Keith 6.Abi(fv) 5.Kimmi(fv) 4.Kelley(fv) Final Three Spencer Tasha Jeremy(winner) This is what I found from a thread titled "Mostly Accurate Bootlist" in the Survivor Spoilers Section there on the Big Board. If nobody know what site I mean by Big Board, I will pm you what it means.
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-15-15, 01:36 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
As a reminder, 1. You can call it Sucks. No need for 'big board' secrecy. 2. the mod at Sucks had this to add to the topic, yesterday; THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS LIST IS REAL. DO NOT PUT ANY STOCK IN IT.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-15-15, 02:12 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-15-15 AT 02:37 PM (EST)I agree. Anti's post was made at 9:11 - Central - last night. Before the Episode's conclusion on the East Coast. So, if Monica, Terry and Woo do, in fact, go next (and in that order), then the question becomes just how accurate mostly is ... ETA: The list was originally posted on September 28th. Prior to the broadcasts of Shirin's, Peih-Gee's and Jeff's boots. However, earlier today, Anti was still holding his ground. Sort of.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-15-15, 06:29 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
It's probably because of all the fake spoilers being posted on there in the past two seasons or so and when Look Closer basically provided a Kass finalist spoiler which more likely imo was the belief it was a final 3.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-16-15, 03:08 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Or maybe ... " |
I mean from Cagayan, when he said Kass was a finalist but finished 3rd place.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-16-15, 03:28 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Or maybe ... " |
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-15 AT 09:32 PM (EST)I know. I was just trying to say (obviously, not well) that perhaps Anti had come to the same question/conclusion that the author of the post that I linked came to: That, if the source of the bootlist truly was a Juror (a post-merge player and Ponderosa resident present at every post-merge Tribal Council), any inaccuracy in the order in which the Jurors were booted from the Game and/or arrived at Ponderosa would make no sense. Unless the source was awfully forgetful after-the-fact. Or awfully drunk during the process ...
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-22-15, 09:15 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: Or maybe ... " |
LAST EDITED ON 10-22-15 AT 09:24 AM (EST)Well ... Whether drunk or sober, the source is now six for six (including Terry's impending withdrawal). And given the second Tribal re-alignment (spoiled by Inside Survivor) at/in this next - Final 14 - Episode, it isn't difficult to imagine that Woo - without an honest ally but a very honest post-merge Individual Immunity threat - will be its one and only victim. And that the list will remain intact into the Jury stage of the Game. To me, unfortunately. I enjoy watching Woo enjoy the Game. G
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-23-15, 11:17 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Or maybe ... " |
Thank you, Outsider ...While I don't know a thing about Ghostie Home, I do know that you are much better at dissecting an edit than I am. And I think that you've made a very articulate - and convincing - argument in support of your opinion that Kelley is this Season's winner. But, because I just can't get past the emphasis that her edit has placed on her concerted effort to oust a very sympathetic Terry from the Game - and because I do think that a Fire native (rather than an Air native) will be Cambodia's Sole Survivor - I think that of the two Jeremy is the more likely to win the Game. And I'll probably live to regret that thought ... G
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tribephyl 12393 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-16-15, 00:30 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
His reminder is also addended by another nod to a 'source' known as UncleCameraman, who gave their 'boot-list' approximately 4 boots in (during Outback) with Nick and Varner to come. It played well for awhile, even guessing that Varner would be ousted due to a tie vote, but ran into trouble when Colby is booted (over Jerri), Tina goes next for being unusable and the finalists ended up being ... NOT ... Colby and Tina. The moral being... if a juror is the source, then there would be NO reason for doubt as to placement of the jurors. Which is more in tune with what the OP was implying. I believe, if anything, the source is a non-juror. Yet, even more likely, it's a lucky guesser. However, considering that the source might be from a pre-merger castaway, we could even have 4 more boots, in order, before things go horribly astray. But from there on out? I dunno. This is usually the time they all go astray. THAT, I believe, is all Anti is saying. Remember the past or you are doomed to repeat it.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-23-15, 11:26 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
And now there is this from Antithesys.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 00:08 AM (EST)
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20. "And ... ... " |
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 00:31 AM (EST)Then there is this: by soapcraze And this: by nostalgicfor05 Mindful that any response would be rather like tryin' to put out Hell by spittin' on the flames (Credit: My Maternal Grandfather), my first impulse was to ignore this. My second, however, was to acknowledge the integrity that is demonstrated by those within the spoiling community who make the effort to verify assertions made without any link to the proof of their validity: I do not know the identity of the author - or of the source - of this BootList. Nor have I ever, in any venue or by any method, said that I do. Georgianna
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 01:35 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: And ... ... " |
Georgiana I am soapcraze. I apologize for that I thought it was you that said that but it was another poster. I do know something was said along the lines that Shirin was responsible for the bootlist because she had loose lips. I'll have to revisit who posted it either here or the well known spoiler thread.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 02:14 AM (EST)
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22. "RE: And ... ... " |
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 08:35 PM (EST)When I noticed that your reply to me, here, was posted just eight minutes after the soapcraze post was made to the SS board, I thought that they might have been made by the same person ... I do, of course, accept your apology. Now, though, I would appreciate it very much - if you haven't already done so - if you would post a correction of your earlier post in the SS Forum. And you might offer an apology to nostalgicfor05, too. That said, I truly mean this next to be helpful: It will spare you and other posters a great deal of annoyance - and unnecessary effort - if you will only follow a very basic standard of fair play: If you can't link it. Don't use it. G
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 03:10 AM (EST)
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23. "Good Grief!" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 03:34 AM (EST)I just read your post to the SS Board in which you now claim/suggest that FlowerPower said that she knew the identity of the BootList source. And, in the Blows thread that you referenced - but did not link - she did not. In fact, she wasn't even referring to the source of the BootList at all. Her comment was an observation about Redmond's source for his very accurate predictions of Cambodia's tribal divisions. FlowerPower: Redmond has been spot on with the tribes, and their divisions. I have heard that some speculate that Shirin was his source. I have heard from other sources that she does have loose lips. Regardless, let's put this on a time line ... And if, at the very least, you had quoted her, then you - and all of your fellow Board members at SS - would have known that. The fact is, Outsider, that to the best of my knowledge (and I read this Board very thoroughly), no poster at Blows has even so much as hinted, here, that he | she knows the identity of the source of the BootList. And until you are able to link and quote the post in which this occurred, it is my humble opinion that you really ought to stop saying that it has. G
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 09:54 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Good Grief!" |
So you mean I have to let people here know if I mention their name in a post? I was only talking about where I read FP say she heard who the source was. I was not blaming her.
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PepeLePew13 26134 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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10-25-15, 03:00 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Good Grief!" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-15 AT 03:11 PM (EST)No, that is not what I asked. I asked that you link to their posts if you are claiming that they said something, so that readers of your post will know where to go to see what discussion is emanating from that original poster's posting. The tone and nuance is very important in helping determine validity and it's also called giving credit. Problem is that your posts were vague and included incorrect information, making it even more important to link to what the poster said so that the correct info can go out. Now you've got people on another site saying so and so said this, and when the info goes bad later on in the season, who do you think they're going to blame? The poster that you posted as having said certain info, when they actually didn't. If you ever went to college, you know the importance of crediting a source. Re: I was only talking about where I read FP say she heard who the source was. Problem was that the original information was incorrect and you had posters replying to you, "Can you link to where she said that? I searched and I could not find her saying that." You could have saved these people a ton of time by simply linking to the post, no need to let G or FP know that you were sharing their info.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 09:50 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Good Grief!" |
Idk, some people at Sucks are not that good with getting information. I was trying to be informative. And I did not imply Flowerpower knew anything, I was implying she posted about who she heard the source was from.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 10:04 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Good Grief!" |
>LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 >AT 03:34 AM (EST) > > > >I just read your post to >the SS Board in which >you now claim/suggest that FlowerPower >said that she knew the >identity of the BootList source. > > >And, in the Blows thread that >you referenced - but did >not link - she >did not. > >In fact, she wasn't even referring >to the source of the >BootList at all. Her >comment was an observation about >Redmond's source for his very >accurate predictions of Cambodia's tribal >divisions. > >FlowerPower: > >Redmond has been spot on with >the tribes, and their divisions. >I have heard that some >speculate that Shirin was his >source. I have heard from >other sources that she does >have loose lips. Regardless, let's >put this on a time >line ... > >And if, at the very least, >you had quoted her, then >you - and all of >your fellow Board members at >SS - would have known >that. > >The fact is, Outsider, that to >the best of my knowledge >(and I read this Board >very thoroughly), no poster at >Blows has even so much >as hinted, here, that he >| she knows the identity >of the source of the >BootList. > >And until you are able to >link and quote the post >in which this occurred, it >is my humble opinion that >you really ought to stop >saying that it has. > >G > > > >Okay I see what happened. Apparently I got confused between the bootlist and the medevac. Shirin knew about the medevac. Nvm. Btw I don't like to apologize to anyone on Sucks and if POLO saw that and responded well I'm not gonna go see that page.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-24-15, 10:10 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Good Grief!" |
I just cleared it up. I will not be sharing any more information from Blows.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-25-15, 00:00 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: Good Grief!" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-25-15 AT 03:27 PM (EST) Outsider ...
Please, just slow down. This is a public message board. There is no expectation of privacy. We all post with the understanding that whatever we say may be shared across many platforms. It is perfectly acceptable to link our posts and/or to quote us. But, as a matter of common courtesy, we do all expect that if we are quoted, we will be quoted accurately. And the most efficient way to make certain that you are quoting what someone else said - accurately - is to link his/her post in your message. Now, I don't post at SS. So I have no idea what sort of coding their software supports. But here, anytime you post a new message or reply to one, you can simply click on the HTML Reference (in black) at the top of the message form and a window will pop up that will guide you through the steps necessary to construct the most-used codes on this Board. And, it isn't necessary to embed a link as I do (although the instructions for creating that code are right there in the pop-up window). You can also copy and paste the raw URL into your post. However, if you want to link a particular post within a thread, you'll need to go to the index of posts at the beginning of the thread and click on the post that you wish to link. Then, once in the post, just go to the top of the page and copy the URL for that individual post. And I've said slow down because, even though I linked FP's post, and quoted her directly, and told you specifically that she was referring to Redmond's accurate spoiling of Cambodia's tribal divisions/switches in her post, you are now, somehow, mistakenly under the impression that she was referring to Terry's evacuation. She wasn't. However, I do understand that life at SS isn't always easy, so I'll certainly have no more to say to you about the matter. I do think that you've made a good-faith effort clear things up. Thank you. But, I am not FP. And I certainly don't speak for her. Nor do I have any idea whether she would be at all concerned about any of this. However, if you decide that you should speak to her about it, I will note that I have always found her to be gracious. ETA: If it is more comfortable and/or practical for you to simply not share information from this Board in your postings to SS than it would be to always link the posts here - and/or to quote the posters here accurately - I would understand. G
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-27-15, 10:13 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Good Grief!" |
No problem. Like I said I was only trying to be informative, but its all good.
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Georganna 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-28-15, 00:18 AM (EST)
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33. "RE: Good Grief!" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-28-15 AT 06:03 AM (EST) Outsider,
I'm glad to hear that it's all good. Because, if you haven't yet noticed, I've included the BootList Spoiler in a new thread that I've begun that I hope will eventually include all of the new - or still outstanding - Source Spoilers for the remainder of the Season. I thought it deserved a fresh, uncluttered, start. So, if you'd like to post any new comments that you might have regarding the BootList to that thread, they would certainly be welcome there. But please read the request that I've made regarding the reproduction of the BootList - carefully - before you post. Thanks,
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-28-15, 09:45 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Good Grief!" |
I saw that.
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Jims03 193 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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10-16-15, 08:27 PM (EST)
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10. "Regarding the editing thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-16-15 AT 08:37 PM (EST)This is only tangentially related to this, but I don't know where else to put it, since I can't call out Outsider32 in the editing thread (for obvious reasons). But michel said that he has been avoiding Sucks because of their policy of using spoiler info in their speculation and editing threads. This is actually how I accidentally got spoiled because I was poking around there, not knowing that they factor in the spoilers to their analysis. I am very well aware that Jeremy, Tasha, Spencer, Kelley, and Kimmi all lost a ton of weight and are a majority of our endgamers. The thing is, can we not just itemize the entire list in the editing thread, spelling the entire thing out to him? Look at this garbage from that thread. So now with my new updated outlooks Endgame Tasha Kelley Spencer Jeremy Kimmi/Monica Keith The Pickoffs at Mid Merge Kelly Kimmi/Monica/Ciera The Major Confessional Stealer Boots Stephen Jeff Jeff's Preceding Boot and Editing Handcuff Abi The First Targets Joe Kass The Rest out Pre-Merge Terry Savage Woo Ciera/Monica Looking at Kimmi's practically invisible edit, saying that you interpret it as her being the invisible endgamer, WHEN YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT SHE LOST ALL THAT WEIGHT, is super obnoxious. You say, "It's really not that hard" to him? Well, of course it's not that hard. Anybody with a keyboard could come up with those same conclusions this season. You're coming to the editing conclusions already pretty much knowing the answer in advance. For people who are spoiled, the editing thread only serves to try to narrow down the winner from that small list. We don't even need to look at Woo's edit. But michel is trying to do the thing fresh. Flowerpower has read the spoilers (I believe) but is still giving a well-rounded and open-ended analysis. It's not fair to just dump all the right answers on him when he's trying to put in an honest effort. There isn't really much that can be done about it now (since the post has already been made and editing would look sketchy), but I had to say something. This is ridiculous.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-17-15, 10:32 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Regarding the editing thread" |
Jim, I know weight loss spoilers but the editing in how I have studied it in the past is pretty clear. Sorry to say editing gives away the main players at the end. It gave Carolyn and Will away last year two episodes in. And the season before it gave away Missy and Keith.I did not base my analysis on weight loss, and Kass has even lost weight herself. CBS wants to get the viewers invested in a player that is long for the game. I never understood any of this editing stuff until I returned to watching the show after a almost 3 year hiatus. I saw the edgic thread on Sucks and learned it forshadows who goes far. So I started picking up on who CBS wants us to notice and who they want us to get enough of because they are not going all the way if they aren't winning. And if this spoiler is even correct, Keith is not endgame. If you pay attention to this, Kelley, Spencer, Jeremy, and Tasha have clearly been the main strategically emphasized in terms of long term story without being on too much or going beyond talking about their game. If Kimmi had gotten more confessionals, I wouldn't have put her at the end. Also, you may have noticed I debated changing Kimmi to Monica. And besides, this is embarrassing because people that don't like spoilers will not even read this thread or even think my editing is prophecy.
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Jims03 193 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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10-19-15, 09:49 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Regarding the editing thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-19-15 AT 09:52 PM (EST)Well obviously people can read into the edit to figure out that some of the players are going to be endgame in advance. It didn't take a brain surgeon last season to figure out that Mike was going to be around for awhile. If someone rolled dice, they could probably correctly guess a couple people who are end game. Your explanation is that you are strictly looking at the edit, WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE INFORMATION TAINTING THE ANALYSIS, and coming up with a list that is 100% exactly the same as every other spoiled list at the time... Well, I don't think that explanation passes the smell test. Knowing about the weight loss stuff makes the editing answers so much more clear. Is Andrew's solid and emotional edit going to carry him into a Mike-esque endgame appearance and possibly win? Well, of course not, it doesn't have enough strategy discussion and is clearly a shorter arc. Is Kass' turnaround edit showing that she can truly change herself and give herself a true Second Chance, and dare I say, even win the game? Of course not. It's clearly setting her up for how she can't shake her past and people like Spencer and Tasha won't believe it. Is Ciera's fairly invisible edit mean she could be the irrelevant 3rd place finisher? Of course not, she's just a relatively unimportant Cagayan Morgan or Purple Kelly figure come the merge. Like I said, I don't doubt that people can look at the edit and figure it out. Heck, I don't doubt that you can do it. But, looking at the conclusions you made and how you outlined it so succinctly and I don't think you are completely separating the two. And I don't think the way you present the info is fair to michel. That's it.
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Outsider32 584 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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10-19-15, 10:57 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Regarding the editing thread" |
First of all I did not predict Kelley, Spencer, Jeremy, and Tasha to be final four. I said they would be end game. Each of them has been given a long term storyline and not a journey edit(except Spencer). Spencer is trying to change, Jeremy's been more toned down than before, Kelley is looking like the winner, and Tasha gave a very important confessional the first show pre-marooning, and followed that up with strong 3rd and 4th episodes.The only other people who have been given more airtime than those two have been Jeff and Abi. Jeff I got wrong, I thought he would be pre-merge. Abi I had pre-merge and now I'm not sure. The only other person who has been given decent airtime was Stephen, and for the first three episodes(or two) I had him endgame. But after the third show, he started to come off like Jenn. Terry and Savage have been fleshed out too much. Its more about them and their egos than what their story is. Endgame Important players Those given confessionals of value and not being fleshed out too early unless that person were to win(such as Mike and Tony). Important players not endgame Those that are fleshed out early, given way too much screentime and confessionals are about everyone on their tribe. And if you go back to my WA edit, you will see I had these at my endgame at different times: Mike(the winner) Carolyn Tyler Dan Rodney Jenn Will Five of them finished top seven. I had Hali over Sierra for the invisible endgamer until the last pre-merge episode and hinted she could be the merge boot(she wasn't but was first juror) because of Jenn's edit. Jenn was the one who was out sooner with Jeremy edit. Maybe you should go read all my posts in that thread. And lets wait until one of the final five go before the final five before jumping to conclusions because I am pretty sure the bootlist got the exact final three wrong. Kelley is winning, not Jeremy. Spencer might be this season's narrator/journey boot along with Stephen. And btw, I just noticed that final four on the bootlist last week. I never paid attention to it before because of the abundance of fake spoilers in the past on that forum. People started talking about it in the edgic thread in Speculation and that's when I brought it up here.
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11-19-15, 12:26 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler" |
It's quite possible the person who spoiled the list swapped Savage with Stephen. Kelly booted, Ciera next, then Stephen?
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