LAST EDITED ON 10-15-15 AT 00:46 AM (EST)

Its over at the big board. Go to the thread in spoilers titled "Mostly Accurate Bootlist"

And after tonight's vote, it just might actually be right, It was originally started in September and people rebuffing it.

• Here is what the bootlist said,Outsider32, 00:46 AM, 10-15-15
• RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,tribephyl, 01:36 AM, 10-15-15
  • RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,Outsider32, 02:04 AM, 10-15-15
    • RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,Georganna, 02:12 PM, 10-15-15
      • RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,Outsider32, 06:29 PM, 10-15-15
        • Or maybe ... ,Georganna, 11:01 PM, 10-15-15
          • RE: Or maybe ... ,Outsider32, 03:08 AM, 10-16-15
            • RE: Or maybe ... ,Georganna, 03:28 AM, 10-16-15
              • RE: Or maybe ... ,Georganna, 09:15 AM, 10-22-15
                • RE: Or maybe ... ,Georganna, 10:14 AM, 10-22-15
                  • RE: Or maybe ... ,Outsider32, 08:59 PM, 10-22-15
                    • RE: Or maybe ... ,Georganna, 11:17 PM, 10-23-15
    • RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,tribephyl, 00:30 AM, 10-16-15
  • RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,Georganna, 11:26 PM, 10-23-15
  • And ... ... ,Georganna, 00:08 AM, 10-24-15
    • RE: And ... ... ,Outsider32, 01:35 AM, 10-24-15
      • RE: And ... ... ,Georganna, 02:14 AM, 10-24-15
      • Good Grief!,Georganna, 03:10 AM, 10-24-15
        • RE: Good Grief!,PepeLePew13, 08:15 PM, 10-24-15
          • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 09:54 PM, 10-24-15
            • RE: Good Grief!,PepeLePew13, 03:00 PM, 10-25-15
        • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 09:50 PM, 10-24-15
        • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 10:04 PM, 10-24-15
          • RE: Good Grief!,PepeLePew13, 03:13 PM, 10-25-15
        • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 10:10 PM, 10-24-15
          • RE: Good Grief!,Georganna, 00:00 AM, 10-25-15
            • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 10:13 PM, 10-27-15
              • RE: Good Grief!,Georganna, 00:18 AM, 10-28-15
                • RE: Good Grief!,Outsider32, 09:45 PM, 10-28-15
• Regarding the editing thread,Jims03, 08:27 PM, 10-16-15
  • RE: Regarding the editing thread,Outsider32, 10:32 PM, 10-17-15
    • RE: Regarding the editing thread,Outsider32, 11:00 PM, 10-17-15
      • RE: Regarding the editing thread,Jims03, 09:49 PM, 10-19-15
        • RE: Regarding the editing thread,Outsider32, 10:57 PM, 10-19-15
• RE: I have a possible bootlist spoiler,coldbrewer, 12:26 PM, 11-19-15

20.Vytas
19.Shirin
18.PG
17.Jeff
16.Monica
15.Terry(quit)
14.Woo

Merge(mostly accurate)
13.Kass
12.Stephen
11.Kelly
10.Ciera
9.Savage
8.Joe
7.Keith
6.Abi(fv)
5.Kimmi(fv)
4.Kelley(fv)

Final Three
Spencer
Tasha
Jeremy(winner)

This is what I found from a thread titled "Mostly Accurate Bootlist" in the Survivor Spoilers Section there on the Big Board. If nobody know what site I mean by Big Board, I will pm you what it means.

As a reminder, 1. You can call it Sucks. No need for 'big board' secrecy. 2. the mod at Sucks had this to add to the topic, yesterday;
THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS LIST IS REAL. DO NOT PUT ANY STOCK IN IT.

Yes I read that. For a moment I thought you were him lol.

The thing is one of the boots already happened tonight and he made that post about not paying much attention before tonight. It's just too coincidental for Varner to be the fourth boot and on top of the fact his edit was so big he could not have possibly gone this early.

I don't know what to believe and my edit analysis has Kelley winning over Tasha.

LAST EDITED ON 10-15-15 AT 02:37 PM (EST)

I agree.

Anti's post was made at 9:11 - Central - last night. Before the Episode's conclusion on the East Coast.

So, if Monica, Terry and Woo do, in fact, go next (and in that order), then the question becomes just how accurate mostly is ...

ETA: The list was originally posted on September 28th. Prior to the broadcasts of Shirin's, Peih-Gee's and Jeff's boots. However, earlier today, Anti was still holding his ground. Sort of.

It's probably because of all the fake spoilers being posted on there in the past two seasons or so and when Look Closer basically provided a Kass finalist spoiler which more likely imo was the belief it was a final 3.

Anti has made the same salient observation that this SS contributor makes:

Indeed! Why would it be?

I mean from Cagayan, when he said Kass was a finalist but finished 3rd place.

LAST EDITED ON 10-16-15 AT 09:32 PM (EST)

I know.

I was just trying to say (obviously, not well) that perhaps Anti had come to the same question/conclusion that the author of the post that I linked came to:

That, if the source of the bootlist truly was a Juror (a post-merge player and Ponderosa resident present at every post-merge Tribal Council), any inaccuracy in the order in which the Jurors were booted from the Game and/or arrived at Ponderosa would make no sense.

Unless the source was awfully forgetful after-the-fact. Or awfully drunk during the process ...

LAST EDITED ON 10-22-15 AT 09:24 AM (EST)

Well ...

Whether drunk or sober, the source is now six for six (including Terry's impending withdrawal). And given the second Tribal re-alignment (spoiled by Inside Survivor) at/in this next - Final 14 - Episode, it isn't difficult to imagine that Woo - without an honest ally but a very honest post-merge Individual Immunity threat - will be its one and only victim. And that the list will remain intact into the Jury stage of the Game.

To me, unfortunately. I enjoy watching Woo enjoy the Game.

G

One more thought, Outsider ...

I know that you think that Kelley wins this Game. But I wonder - given the sympathy that Terry's family emergency is most certainly going to evoke from the audience - if we would have seen her now several kicking Terry under the bus moments if she was, indeed, Cambodia's Sole Survivor?

G

I have her winning because she is getting unnecessary confessionals in every episode. A female that gets that and always talking about her game is very reminiscent of Denise in Philippines. Denise was showcased every week with confessionals early on and with the right medium of them too. Not too much. She did kick Terry under the bus but if she didn't, she would be the one targeted. However, I get the sense she will be responsible for Kass's boot more than Tasha(that birthday gift forshadowing scene) but if Kelley, Spencer, and Tasha are all in the final 3, then the jurors are probably going to hate all of them and not want to give the money mostly to Spencer and Tasha for egotistic reasons. Kelley is the lesser of three evils there. I had Jeremy as my winner pick in the first two episodes.

On the contrary, that giftgiving scene in Kass's redemption edit did not have to be shown. It may forshadow Kass will vote for Kelley and her vote will decide the game? She will not vote for the other two.

And it should be known I should not be given credit if Kelley wins, I have simply read into Ghostie Home's analysis of players edits and he is picking Kelley to win this season. This is not a spoiler he simply has some knack for picking winners as he has picked the last two. He also got Derrick right for BB and said Vanessa would not win if he does not own up to her game. She never even got a chance. Kelley was among my top three and my favorite from TaKeo after the first episode.

However, Jeremy's getting a strong edit too which makes me believe their season boils down to the F4 IC and they will not take each other. But Ghostie did say that they waited until the second episode to showcase Jeremy's emotional side and he wrote him off before that episode. I think it's possible his mistake(if it is) and the bootlist coming out is forcing him to be on the defensive and if Kelley loses he will probably come up with an excuse for why she lost.

Thank you, Outsider ...

While I don't know a thing about Ghostie Home, I do know that you are much better at dissecting an edit than I am. And I think that you've made a very articulate - and convincing - argument in support of your opinion that Kelley is this Season's winner.

But, because I just can't get past the emphasis that her edit has placed on her concerted effort to oust a very sympathetic Terry from the Game - and because I do think that a Fire native (rather than an Air native) will be Cambodia's Sole Survivor - I think that of the two Jeremy is the more likely to win the Game.

And I'll probably live to regret that thought ...

G

His reminder is also addended by another nod to a 'source' known as UncleCameraman, who gave their 'boot-list' approximately 4 boots in (during Outback) with Nick and Varner to come. It played well for awhile, even guessing that Varner would be ousted due to a tie vote, but ran into trouble when Colby is booted (over Jerri), Tina goes next for being unusable and the finalists ended up being ... NOT ... Colby and Tina.
The moral being... if a juror is the source, then there would be NO reason for doubt as to placement of the jurors. Which is more in tune with what the OP was implying.
I believe, if anything, the source is a non-juror. Yet, even more likely, it's a lucky guesser.
However, considering that the source might be from a pre-merger castaway, we could even have 4 more boots, in order, before things go horribly astray.
But from there on out? I dunno. This is usually the time they all go astray.
THAT, I believe, is all Anti is saying.
Remember the past or you are doomed to repeat it.

And now there is this from Antithesys.

LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 00:31 AM (EST)

Then there is this:

by soapcraze

And this:

by nostalgicfor05

Mindful that any response would be rather like tryin' to put out Hell by spittin' on the flames (Credit: My Maternal Grandfather), my first impulse was to ignore this.

My second, however, was to acknowledge the integrity that is demonstrated by those within the spoiling community who make the effort to verify assertions made without any link to the proof of their validity:

I do not know the identity of the author - or of the source - of this BootList. Nor have I ever, in any venue or by any method, said that I do.

Georgianna

Georgiana I am soapcraze. I apologize for that I thought it was you that said that but it was another poster. I do know something was said along the lines that Shirin was responsible for the bootlist because she had loose lips. I'll have to revisit who posted it either here or the well known spoiler thread.

LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 08:35 PM (EST)

When I noticed that your reply to me, here, was posted just eight minutes after the soapcraze post was made to the SS board, I thought that they might have been made by the same person ...

I do, of course, accept your apology. Now, though, I would appreciate it very much - if you haven't already done so - if you would post a correction of your earlier post in the SS Forum. And you might offer an apology to nostalgicfor05, too.

That said, I truly mean this next to be helpful:

It will spare you and other posters a great deal of annoyance - and unnecessary effort - if you will only follow a very basic standard of fair play:

If you can't link it. Don't use it.

G

LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15 AT 03:34 AM (EST)

I just read your post to the SS Board in which you now claim/suggest that FlowerPower said that she knew the identity of the BootList source.

And, in the Blows thread that you referenced - but did not link - she did not.

In fact, she wasn't even referring to the source of the BootList at all. Her comment was an observation about Redmond's source for his very accurate predictions of Cambodia's tribal divisions.

FlowerPower:

Redmond has been spot on with the tribes, and their divisions. I have heard that some speculate that Shirin was his source. I have heard from other sources that she does have loose lips. Regardless, let's put this on a time line ...

And if, at the very least, you had quoted her, then you - and all of your fellow Board members at SS - would have known that.

The fact is, Outsider, that to the best of my knowledge (and I read this Board very thoroughly), no poster at Blows has even so much as hinted, here, that he | she knows the identity of the source of the BootList.

And until you are able to link and quote the post in which this occurred, it is my humble opinion that you really ought to stop saying that it has.

G

Yes, Outsider... I have mentioned in the past that you really need to link to posts.

Please do not quote other posters from now on without a direct link.

If you do not know how to link to posts, click on "Reply With Quote" after Georganna's posts above to see how it's done.

It is rather unfair to posters here (and in that other place) to be claiming they said something then not linking to it and forcing posters to search high and low for non-existent posts before realizing you were inaccurate with your statements. Thank you.

So you mean I have to let people here know if I mention their name in a post? I was only talking about where I read FP say she heard who the source was. I was not blaming her.

LAST EDITED ON 10-25-15 AT 03:11 PM (EST)

No, that is not what I asked. I asked that you link to their posts if you are claiming that they said something, so that readers of your post will know where to go to see what discussion is emanating from that original poster's posting. The tone and nuance is very important in helping determine validity and it's also called giving credit.

Problem is that your posts were vague and included incorrect information, making it even more important to link to what the poster said so that the correct info can go out. Now you've got people on another site saying so and so said this, and when the info goes bad later on in the season, who do you think they're going to blame? The poster that you posted as having said certain info, when they actually didn't.

If you ever went to college, you know the importance of crediting a source.

Re:
I was only talking about where I read FP say she heard who the source was.

Problem was that the original information was incorrect and you had posters replying to you, "Can you link to where she said that? I searched and I could not find her saying that." You could have saved these people a ton of time by simply linking to the post, no need to let G or FP know that you were sharing their info.

Idk, some people at Sucks are not that good with getting information. I was trying to be informative. And I did not imply Flowerpower knew anything, I was implying she posted about who she heard the source was from.

>LAST EDITED ON 10-24-15
>AT 03:34 AM (EST)
>
>
>
>I just read your post to
>the SS Board in which
>you now claim/suggest that FlowerPower
>said that she knew the
>identity of the BootList source.
>
>
>And, in the Blows thread that
>you referenced - but did
>not link - she
>did not.
>
>In fact, she wasn't even referring
>to the source of the
>BootList at all. Her
>comment was an observation about
>Redmond's source for his very
>accurate predictions of Cambodia's tribal
>divisions.
>
>FlowerPower:
>
>Redmond has been spot on with
>the tribes, and their divisions.
>I have heard that some
>speculate that Shirin was his
>source. I have heard from
>other sources that she does
>have loose lips. Regardless, let's
>put this on a time
>line ...
>
>And if, at the very least,
>you had quoted her, then
>you - and all of
>your fellow Board members at
>SS - would have known
>that.
>
>The fact is, Outsider, that to
>the best of my knowledge
>(and I read this Board
>very thoroughly), no poster at
>Blows has even so much
>as hinted, here, that he
>| she knows the identity
>of the source of the
>BootList.
>
>And until you are able to
>link and quote the post
>in which this occurred, it
>is my humble opinion that
>you really ought to stop
>saying that it has.
>
>G
>
>
>
>

Okay I see what happened. Apparently I got confused between the bootlist and the medevac. Shirin knew about the medevac. Nvm.

Btw I don't like to apologize to anyone on Sucks and if POLO saw that and responded well I'm not gonna go see that page.

>Btw I don't like to apologize to anyone on Sucks and
>if POLO saw that and responded well I'm not gonna go
>see that page.

So that's your reason for not being a man and standing up for what's right? All the more reason to link to posts and be sure that you have the correct info in the first place.

I just cleared it up. I will not be sharing any more information from Blows.

LAST EDITED ON 10-25-15 AT 03:27 PM (EST)

Outsider ...

Please, just slow down.

This is a public message board. There is no expectation of privacy. We all post with the understanding that whatever we say may be shared across many platforms. It is perfectly acceptable to link our posts and/or to quote us. But, as a matter of common courtesy, we do all expect that if we are quoted, we will be quoted accurately. And the most efficient way to make certain that you are quoting what someone else said - accurately - is to link his/her post in your message.

Now, I don't post at SS. So I have no idea what sort of coding their software supports. But here, anytime you post a new message or reply to one, you can simply click on the HTML Reference (in black) at the top of the message form and a window will pop up that will guide you through the steps necessary to construct the most-used codes on this Board.

And, it isn't necessary to embed a link as I do (although the instructions for creating that code are right there in the pop-up window). You can also copy and paste the raw URL into your post. However, if you want to link a particular post within a thread, you'll need to go to the index of posts at the beginning of the thread and click on the post that you wish to link. Then, once in the post, just go to the top of the page and copy the URL for that individual post.

And I've said slow down because, even though I linked FP's post, and quoted her directly, and told you specifically that she was referring to Redmond's accurate spoiling of Cambodia's tribal divisions/switches in her post, you are now, somehow, mistakenly under the impression that she was referring to Terry's evacuation. She wasn't.

However, I do understand that life at SS isn't always easy, so I'll certainly have no more to say to you about the matter. I do think that you've made a good-faith effort clear things up. Thank you.

But, I am not FP. And I certainly don't speak for her. Nor do I have any idea whether she would be at all concerned about any of this. However, if you decide that you should speak to her about it, I will note that I have always found her to be gracious.

ETA: If it is more comfortable and/or practical for you to simply not share information from this Board in your postings to SS than it would be to always link the posts here - and/or to quote the posters here accurately - I would understand.

G

No problem. Like I said I was only trying to be informative, but its all good.

LAST EDITED ON 10-28-15 AT 06:03 AM (EST)

Outsider,

I'm glad to hear that it's all good.

Because, if you haven't yet noticed, I've included the BootList Spoiler in a new thread that I've begun that I hope will eventually include all of the new - or still outstanding - Source Spoilers for the remainder of the Season.

I thought it deserved a fresh, uncluttered, start.

So, if you'd like to post any new comments that you might have regarding the BootList to that thread, they would certainly be welcome there.

But please read the request that I've made regarding the reproduction of the BootList - carefully - before you post.

Thanks,