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"Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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"Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Please keep all discussion of tonight's season finale and subsequent Reunion on this thread until 2 a.n. Eastern, by which time the West Coast will have finished banging their heads against the nearest wall after hearing next season's theme.And now, the little talk. (99% of you are skipping over to the Reply button.) How did we get here? We got here because MB picked up a set of crooked dice and rolled them until the numbers came up the way he wanted -- and then threw out all other results, declaring only the one favorable roll to have counted. Collect all bets, snicker, and get out the door before anyone can call security. Not that it matters, because security never responds. This is not the most manipulated reality competition on television. Idol walked into first place this year (and made much of the viewership walk away), claiming the top spot from Grodner and her rats. (I never said it had to be well-manipulated.) But this series? Solid third place with an eye on the #2 spot. Let's face it: the concept was sunk from the start. We all looked at the 'favorites' list and laughed: some with disdain, some because laughter made it hurt less. The fans -- well, we could prove a few of them had at least heard of the show, but there were still recruits in a field of people who hadn't figured out how to play -- or worse, could see one move ahead and exactly that: hi, Sherri -- are you expecting your Twitter account be flooded with meaningless lack of payback? Or no moves ahead while convincing themselves Zero=Day Thirty-Nine, and Reynold, that means you. There was exactly one true fan in this season, and he has six legs, a shell, and a position in the final five. The idols have turned into a joke -- or at least the hiding of them has: the play was almost always a punchline. The only time someone couldn't find the thing was when they had directions: what flavor of pathetic is that? Might as well spend next fall putting them directly in front of player's faces, as that seems to be the last perpetual blind spot in the game. The producers lucked into some good moments, yes. We were finally in the position for a double bounce, and while there were ways it could have been more spectacular, let's not complain too much about getting fireworks instead of a meteor shower. Dawn cried a lot, and that's the kind of hysteria you just can't buy at market value. Brenda cried a little and people noticed she existed. Brandon may have gotten the entire Hantz clan thrown off CBS -- after tonight -- at least: we all owe him a debt for that and if you can't send cash, I'm told flaming bags of feces are always welcome. And we can't forget: Phillip was made to shut up for several episodes, which will sadly end tonight and then again when he's brought back for his third season. You know it'll happen. I have said it and MB appears to be doing everything I say, as long as it'll hurt me. Look, I basically just about came up with next season's theme, okay? I can predict anything as long as it svcks... When was the last time you trusted a single word out of Jeff's mouth? More than two consecutive seconds of edit? Have you felt that people were not being directed to idols, and have you felt that way in the last three years? Can we get a Reward which doesn't come with payback? How many endurances and soft-toss contests can you stand? And shall we just admit the series has found a tax haven and will never ever leave the Philippines again? We gained some moments. But the price is so high. Applications? Are dead. Casting? Drama only, taking on parts rather than people. And the game itself... that Idol level of manipulation isn't so far away, is it? MB got there in two seasons before this: Parvati and Rob's last. When you see the next theme and hear the next cast, ask yourself if he's going back to that depth. And who he's going there for. Two prior seasons (at least) designed for one chosen player to win. Is this three? It's not much of a game any more. It's not a particularly quality script either. It's been a long season. The next one will be longer. Once more into the breach.
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05-12-13, 07:04 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Getcher Bingo Cards here!" |
Yes, I can believe Russhole would be that stupid. But what I think he really wants is for Phillip to wimp out and not show up.
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05-12-13, 07:29 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Some reality shows you can FF through all the drama and there is something redeeming at the end--a a cool bike at OCC, a nice dance on Dance Moms, etc. Estee is right--the hand behind the Survivor series is getting heavier and heavier in it's manipulations. WHY won't anyone listen to the fact that instead of vapid, hardbody eye candy and recycled losers what would make this show better would be one season of a full complement of players who are savvy strategists and not "characters". Instead of the usual slate of achetypes, take a chance on some smart players with a balance of social and athletic skills who can write their own story. The "shocking" revelations at Tribal Council are brought about through sometimes hours of questioning aimed to tease out based on producer observations of what is going on in the game. Those confessionals that form our feeling about a characters skill and likability are not spontaneous sound bytes from the players but are orchestrated and directed. The players responses may be unrehearsed, but each of those speeches are the response to a question from a producer just out of camera range engineered to elicit a certain type of response and edited to reflect they desired response if the subject's reply isn't close to what they are looking for. (I spent a day escorting an Oprah Winfrey crew and saw that technique first hand.) Yes, tonight has an engineered ending that even my 90 year old mother-in-law can predict. I would be nice to see a field of real players and a season that is a challenge to spoil. Enjoy the final. I'll be watching it on DVD tomorrow morning.
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05-12-13, 07:52 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
I think they engineered the ending by means of their casting selections. They specifically wanted the winner we will see and came as close as they can to guaranteeing it through the people they put on with this person.
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05-12-13, 07:47 PM (EST)
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8. "Bans" |
Maybe they will finish the live show on time this season.http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_caramoan/2013_May_12_pre-jury-not-on-stage The Survivor Caramoan cast members who did not make it to the jury won’t be sitting on stage during the live reunion, which they learned at the dress rehearsal. In addition, Brenda, who is on the jury, is too pregnant to fly to Los Angeles, but she’ll apparently appear via a satellite connection. Those are more firsts for a reunion that’s already excluding one cast member. Here are some pre-juror cast member reactions to the producers’ decision to relegate them to the audience. They are not happy: Corinne is furious. Says others are enraged. It is a travesty. Laura is disappointed. Allie is encouraging protest tweets.
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05-12-13, 08:00 PM (EST)
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11. "Probst in a few minutes" |
About time for the long finale recrap intro. Episode will start in ten minutes or so.
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05-12-13, 08:08 PM (EST)
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13. "ding" |
ding
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05-12-13, 08:15 PM (EST)
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14. "Jeff and the show's priority system." |
'Due to starvation and malnutrition issues, we just got down to four the hard way. Therefore, we're not going to give any of you any food, just to see if we can get down to three, two, or one. Admittedly, zero might be a problem.'
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-12-13, 08:38 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: The return of Terry's Power Lunch." |
No.
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05-12-13, 08:38 PM (EST)
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19. "It's a Miracle!" |
Day 37 and Eddie and Sherri finally agree to work together. To get out Dawm, who has played the sympathy card like no other.
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05-12-13, 08:39 PM (EST)
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21. "Clueless people." |
To fully appreciate the quality of 'fan' we got this season, just watch Sherri and Eddie as they both completely fail to anticipate jury reactions to The Weeping Backstabber.
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05-12-13, 08:47 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-12-13 AT 08:48 PM (EST)And Phillip's talking again. Well, we knew it couldn't last forever. Anyone wanna bet Brandon's words were recorded as he was on his way out the door? (I thought the producers might go with silence, but...)
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05-12-13, 08:53 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Francesca is probably happy she won't have to be on stage later eating a rock.
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05-12-13, 09:08 PM (EST)
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25. "Cochran Wins Immunity!" |
His advantage was that his bags wouldn't be tied so he could grab them as soon as he got to them while the others had to untie theirs. All eventually caught up with him, though. Dawn and Sherri managed to get themselves in this one, Eddie was hopeless at the puzzle, but Cochran eventually managed to fit all the pieces together. Is now contemplating his choices, should he blindside Dawn. Go ahead, insure the Brenda vote.
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05-12-13, 09:12 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Cochran Wins Immunity!" |
please tell me he's putting a stop to the crying game.
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05-12-13, 09:16 PM (EST)
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27. "Stayin' Alive" |
Erik looks like a BeeGee. (Sorry if this has been noted previously.)
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05-12-13, 09:17 PM (EST)
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28. ""Sherri just sits there."" |
Truer words have seldom been spoken.
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05-12-13, 09:23 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
And Cochran was confident he was deciding who would finish as runner-up, Dawn or Eddie, which stayed and which went home.Eddie kept saying Dawn had a good shot of winning, sympathy mom game. Dawn pointed out Eddie has no enemies on the jury. Eddie knows he can't claim to have outplayed or outwitted. Finally clicks for Cochran, if it is a bitter jury Eddie definately wins. Eddie goes home. Sherri warns that she has done more in the game than any of them think. Thinks she has a chance. Keep thinking that, Sherri.
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05-12-13, 09:31 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
As long as he doesn't wear them on his head at the reunion.
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05-12-13, 09:46 PM (EST)
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38. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
And now Erik just got pwned by Sherri, even if it was the wrong move for her to speak out like that!
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05-12-13, 09:55 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Final TC" |
Likewise.
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05-12-13, 10:03 PM (EST)
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47. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Got to agree about Cochran's answer to Malcolm -- world-class 'what's your worst quality?' job interview stuff.
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05-12-13, 09:47 PM (EST)
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39. "Sherri vs. Erik." |
...wasn't she on Kitchen Nightmares last Friday?
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05-12-13, 09:50 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
Dawn says she was "really not trying to be fake." But apparently she succeeded.
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05-12-13, 09:58 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Survivor #26: Maybe-Fans vs. Not-Favorites Episode #14 East Coast Spoiler Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-12-13 AT 09:59 PM (EST)Brutal Tribal. Sherri, guess what, payback is not getting any votes. Dawn did try to take Malcolm's advice and own it, though. Kinda messed up her chance to really make the point that, guess what, Cochran wouldn't be sitting there if the information hadn't been flowing Dawn's way.
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05-12-13, 10:03 PM (EST)
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48. "Votes" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-12-13 AT 10:07 PM (EST)Philip votes Cochran. Eddie says "This is not the name I thought I'd be writing down" but we don't see who it is. That's all we get.
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05-12-13, 10:05 PM (EST)
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50. "RE: Votes" |
8-0 for Cochran. A very well deserved win.
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05-12-13, 10:06 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Votes" |
So did Dawn burst into tears?
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05-12-13, 10:08 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Votes" |
Can one burst into tears when one never stops crying?
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05-12-13, 10:15 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Votes" |
Dawn could only burst into composure.
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05-12-13, 10:21 PM (EST)
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62. "RE: Votes" |
*snicker*
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05-12-13, 10:08 PM (EST)
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55. "RUDY!!!" |
RUDY!!!
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05-12-13, 10:16 PM (EST)
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59. "RE: RUDY!!!" |
Oh, good: Cochran's win didn't kill him.
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05-12-13, 10:14 PM (EST)
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56. "RE: Cochran's finale look." |
You could argue this is the most dominating win in Survivor history because Cochran went up against 9 other faves, some of whom really knew the game, and won four challenges as well. There's been other shutouts, but I believe all of them were against fellow newbies.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-12-13, 10:21 PM (EST)
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60. "RE: Cochran's finale look." |
I'm putting him in the top third on instinct, but I won't try to figure out just where he belongs yet. I still say the Favorites side was weak in a number of ways, and the Fans -- well, self-demonstrating.
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05-12-13, 10:28 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Cochran's finale look." |
Dominating and strategic win.But as many of us said before the season, this was a greatly flawed bunch of Favourites. That this group of Favs owned the game to me shows how much of an advantage that returning players have. I think Cochran is a perfect example of this. His first time out, despite being a student of the game, his mind was on himself and not the game. This time out he got past that and played the game. But this cast was too flawed for me to call him the greatest winner.
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05-12-13, 10:29 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Time to 'fess up" |
I was skeptical.
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-13-13, 10:10 AM (EST)
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80. "RE: Time to 'fess up" |
So the latest tiebreaker rumor said the excluded finalist in a two-way lock would make the ultimate decision? Ouch.
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05-13-13, 10:11 AM (EST)
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81. "RE: Time to 'fess up" |
OK, sourced spoiler readers, time to confess. When the sourced spoilers revealed that Cochran was the likely winner and revealed Dawn and Sherri as the others in the F3, how many of you were ready to barf? And how many of you are now satisfied with his win?
I am not denying Cochran's victory...it was indeed a very deserving one, and the rightful one, imo. But, you cannot discount his competition in this season....OMG! Horrific, in my humble opinion. When you are playing with a bunch of knuckleheads and crackpots, of course Cochran looks GREAT! And, kudo's for him for keeping it all in perspective. ...just sayin'. I am ready to leave this season behind and move beyond. And, I sure hope they leave the crackpots and knuckleheads behind too!
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05-13-13, 11:52 AM (EST)
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84. "RE: Time to 'fess up" |
in my humble >opinion. When you are playing >with a bunch of knuckleheads >and crackpots, of course Cochran >looks GREAT! Agreed 100%. OMG! If Erik hadn't collapsed one the way back from TC, we wouldn't have seen him lapse automatically into EMT mode and show us that there is a brain in there. It took until the final scramble and the final 2 TCs to show that he could actually think strategically about the game. Sherrie was clueless until the end, defiantly refused to let Erik hand her a clue, and was such a blathering ninny at FTC that even if the others had asked her a question and she had HAD game she would have blown it. She performed so badly in all area it took an explanation by Jeff at the Reunion to explain that she had some real world successes. And Boston Rob did what Boston Rob does so well by trying to define Phillip as "one of the greatest characters in the game". Thus keeping Phillip's good will and admiration while basically saying, "you were not and will never be a Boston Rob, but you made me laugh watching you try." BR came close, but didn't hit the nail on the head: Phillip was edited as a CARICATURE of Boston Rob- a satirical illusion of the strategic player, exaggerated in some aspects and oversimplified in others. And, FloPo, as we look toward the next batch of recycled knuckleheads and +1s we will be faced with at the end of the summer, we can already see some clues in the sourced speculation list as to who the "Golden children" are and who the knuckleheads are.
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05-13-13, 09:54 AM (EST)
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79. "RE: The preview shot." |
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05-12-13, 10:45 PM (EST)
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68. "Coming Up!" |
Sprint Player With the Biggest Fanbase!
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05-12-13, 10:54 PM (EST)
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69. "RE: Coming Up!" |
Malcolm 36% Brenda 35%
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05-12-13, 11:16 PM (EST)
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70. "kingfish & Round Robin" |
Congrats!ER/EF/S/D/C Should have put up the tie possibilities but I didn't bother. ER/EF/S=D/C
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05-13-13, 09:16 AM (EST)
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76. "RE: kingfish & Round Robin" |
Given what we knew and what was in the previews, I didn't think it made a lot of sense to pick Eddie to go out before Erik. Adding everything together, I figured Erik would go out overnight after the previous tribal, but didn't know it would be minutes later. But as bad a shape as I knew he would have to be in to get pulled this late, I figured it would take some time to get him back in good enough shape to be on the jury, so he almost had to have gone out before Eddie. As for the tie, I think we both had the order right, because if anybody would have gotten any votes other than Cochran, it would have been Dawn. Sherri was the ultimate nothing in a Survivor game, and there was no way she was ever gonna get any votes.
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05-12-13, 11:37 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
It was not a clothing optional venue.
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05-13-13, 07:09 AM (EST)
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73. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
His parole officer wouldn't give the permission to travel outside his juridiction?
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05-13-13, 08:57 AM (EST)
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74. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
I'll guaran-damn-tee you not having to deal with and/or explain the Brandon mess was why they kept the pre-jury boots off the stage. And Hatch wasn't there because he couldn't be in order for his appearance to work.
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05-13-13, 10:56 AM (EST)
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82. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
Did anyone notice if Brandon was even there last night? They are paid $10,000.00 to be there. It was clear to me that Boston Rob was there to sell his book. I'm surprised that Phillip did not run down to meet Rob and give him a big wet kiss. Enough, enough with Boston Rob. Rudy was looking great. I felt really bad that the rest of the Survivor members were not allowed on stage.
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05-13-13, 11:27 AM (EST)
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83. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
I thought there were tweets and other such things before the show indicating that Brandon was not allowed to attend the reunion.
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05-13-13, 01:17 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
Really? Or could they be sequestered right now, ready to head to Blood vs. Water?!?! ha ha
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05-13-13, 01:42 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-13-13 AT 01:42 PM (EST)Then Brandon might as well destroy the camp on day one and get it over with. They showed a shot of the pre-jury in the audience while Dawn was talking. Back Seats: Francesca (1), Allie (2), Hope (3), Shamar (4) Front Seats: Laura (5), Matt (7), Julia (8), Corinne (9)
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05-13-13, 11:36 PM (EST)
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92. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
It wasn't only that decision, but I understand why they did it. It would have been obvious to all viewers all the time throughout the live show that Brandon wasn't there had they had them sitting on stage. And few of them, Corinne and her pithy barbs excepted, could be go to interesting anyway.Boston Rob was distraction, but good distraction considering how Phillip had his BR Rulebook. And -- aside -- good for them to get Rob to write/help him write an actual BR Rulebook, way to merchandise! I wouldn't waste any mony on it, wait for it to get spoiled. Rudy and Richard, more theatrics and misdirection. Loved seeing Rudy, it was obvious to me they were just throwing some money Richard's way because they could and he needs it. That was all strictly staged misdirection. Richard's part was obviously pre-recorded. Loved seeing Rudy again, though, don't get me wrong. He is a genuine American hero as are all the SEALS who have followed the path he helped create. But it was done for theatrics and misdirection, that's the nature of magic. The poor tweenie who got stuck on the spot go all gushie about Malcolm, more of the same, but I really felt sorry for that kid.
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05-14-13, 08:20 AM (EST)
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93. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
I felt like talk show host Jeff Probst took over and was running it instead of Survivor host Jeff Probst. And look at what happened to the The Jeff Probst Show - it was cancelled. Many bad decisions all around.
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05-15-13, 10:59 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: They call that a Reunion?" |
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