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"Jonathan's views on life"
Megacanuck 120 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-15-04, 11:33 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Jonathan's views on life" |
That's too bad. I was hoping Victoria killed him before the end of the race. I guess I'll have to ask Santa for something else now.
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IceCat 17415 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-15-04, 05:37 PM (EST)
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3. "Thread moved here from Spoilers" |
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kgswifty 20 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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12-16-04, 10:34 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Jonathan's views on life" |
Here is the latest from the website. Looks like he realizes that his lame quote and his actions on the show are floating like a lead ballon. What an a-hole." December 16, 2004 London 2:20am All of us have our faults. Unfortunately for me millions of viewers are getting to see mine each week. I do not abuse Victoria, what you see is a heighten version of stress and obsession mix with medication for a sickness called Sarcoidosis. What was stared as a publicity stunt turn in to an obsession to race and be first at any cost. This is a GAME and I set out to be the Villain to others not to Victoria. Victoria and I are working on our relationship to better our self and learn form our mistakes. I am taking full responsibly for my actions on screen. Please allow me to make the effort. I am deeply sadden by the storyline that CBS went with. I am sorry for my actions, I am sorry to Victoria. Most all I am sorry to the Fans of the Amazing Race. Jonathan"
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sittem 4186 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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12-16-04, 12:25 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Jonathan's views on life" |
Dear Jonathan, OK - nice apology Jonathan. But, it rings a little hollow when 12 hours or so before that you say on your blog: "December 15, 2004 If you're going to lead, lead. If you're going to follow, follow. Anything else get the ##### out of the way. We are playing a GAME for One Million Dollars." Clearly Jonathan, you don't have the emotional strength to separate a game from real life and your relationship with your wife. Playing a character in the game and being a villain are one thing. Screwing up your relationship and your life overall (though you'll probably come out of this landing on your feet) because you can't stop emotinally abusing your wife is another thing. You appear to be saying that because you have Sarcoidosis (sic -since you have it it would be nice if you could spell it correctly) you should get a pass due to stress. Maybe the meds have side effects that play into this, but from a webpage I checked the disease itself doesn't seem to display symptoms that you can lean on for an excuse: "Symptoms of Sarcodosis General discomfort, uneasiness, or ill feeling (malaise) Fever Shortness of breath Cough Skin lesions Skin rash Headache Visual changes Neurological changes Enlarged lymph glands (armpit lump) Enlarged liver Enlarged spleen Dry mouth Fatigue (one of the most common symptoms in the pediatric population) Weight loss (one of the most common symptoms in the pediatric population) Additional symptoms that may be associated with this disease: Tearing, decreased Seizures Nosebleed - symptom Joint stiffness Hair loss Eye burning, itching and discharge Rales or other abnormal breath sounds Note: There may be no symptoms." So, while admitting that I have huge faults, if I were you I'd have thought ahead about how those faults would be magnified on TV to millions of viewers. And, please do make the effort to work on your relationship. I look forward to the day you can take full responsibility for all of your actions with a genuine heart and make the changes in yourself that will lead you to true happiness and joy. That's possible for anyone, no matter how vile WE may be. EVERY one of the responses we make is a CHOICE we make - no one can MAKE us do anything. All the responsiblity lies in our own response the stiumuls. I'm at least encouraged that you are saddened by the storyline that CBS went with. You should be greatful that CBS has exposed all of this. Maybe the public pressure you are feeling will compel you to get the help you so desperately need. Sigpic by the fantabulous Mon Cherie!
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-17-04, 00:17 AM (EST)
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30. "Dear Jonathan" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-17-04 AT 00:18 AM (EST)As a fellow TAR fan, I accept your apology, such as it is. I don't know how you could have expected the producers to not use this storyline, in all honesty. You show up at a Pitstop acting the way you act, you treat Victoria the way you treat her at the Roadblocks and whatnot, it isn't their fault and really what else could they do, don't they have to use the material they have? What would you have them do, insert a silent movie type explanation: "And then Jonathan and Victoria showed up second at the Pitstop." They have to use some of the material they have simply because it is the material they have, but don't blame them for that, you should have understood that going into all of this. They have to show what happens at Detours, at Roadblocks, and even if they can edit a lot of the things they have if they so choose, what could they really do about how you and Victoria arrived at a Pitstop except tell the story of it as best they could with the material they had. I can accept that you have this condition, that you are under treatment for that condition, and that both of these have undesirable consequences. But you need to look in the mirror and be a man about all this, accept that you and you alone are solely responsible for your own actions. I accept -- in all honesty I really do -- that the real people I see on reality programs are caricatures of their actual selves. It almost couldn't be any other way. You need to accept the truths in that caricature and deal with your own problems without looking for anyone else to blame. dabo
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laureli 152 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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12-16-04, 10:40 AM (EST)
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8. "Another quote from Jonathon" |
The following blog was added to Jonathon/Victoria site today, 12/16/04. He must be totally taking flak from around the world! Not sure if I believe him or not. The way we act under stress is how we are at our very core... We can all take what he says with a grain of salt I'm thinking.London 2:20amAll of us have our faults. Unfortunately for me millions of viewers are getting to see mine each week. I do not abuse Victoria, what you see is a heighten version of stress and obsession mix with medication for a sickness called Sarcoidosis. What was stared as a publicity stunt turn in to an obsession to race and be first at any cost. This is a GAME and I set out to be the Villain to others not to Victoria. Victoria and I are working on our relationship to better our self and learn form our mistakes. I am taking full responsibly for my actions on screen. Please allow me to make the effort. I am deeply sadden by the storyline that CBS went with. I am sorry for my actions, I am sorry to Victoria. Most all I am sorry to the Fans of the Amazing Race. Jonathan awesome siggie courtesy of the amazing KObrienfan!
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RocketAudy 70 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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12-16-04, 05:44 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: What crap" |
How can Jonathan possibly think he can blame it on the editing. He screamed at Victoria while STANDING ON THE PIT STOP MAT! How can they possibly edit that differently?
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RangeRover 262 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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12-16-04, 12:26 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Another quote from Jonathon" |
irregular or absent menstrual periods ....Well there you go people that explains it!!! He has PMS.. I knew the excuses and explanations would be uneffin believable and this one really takes the cake... Sarcidosis. I can now die as I have heard it all. My father used to abuse us, he had an excuse too it was called "alcoholism". This maniac is out of freakin control and in denial. I don't know who has it worse her or him. This is outrageous and my bs meter is up and running and right for him. All of it from the rantings and ravings to the excuse making he is an abuser. I really hate this guy and I don't know if I can watch TAR anymore he just upsets me too much.
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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12-16-04, 02:56 PM (EST)
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LAST EDITED ON 12-16-04 AT 02:59 PM (EST)One of the classic symptoms of an abuser is the inability to take responsibility for one's actions. I have a neighbor with sarcoidosis. He doesn't scream or yell, abuse his wife or kids, or compete with others to the point of obsession. Not buying, Jonathan. Maybe Victoria is, but not me. ETA: And CBS wouldn't be able to create that storyline if he hadn't given them the material. Once again, it's not Jonathan's fault, it's an illness/medication problem and, anyway, CBS's editing isn't fair. Right. --seen his kind too many times to fall for this line of carp.
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kahanasunset 466 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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12-16-04, 03:00 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Today's blog message" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-16-04 AT 03:48 PM (EST)WTF?? He's more sorry about US seeing his behavior than he is about how he treats his wife??!! What a piece of cr@p this jerk is. As a person who volunteers in domestic violence, I, like others on this thread, cannot stand to watch them. Off, NOW. and what bebo wrote
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