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"Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose""
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"Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Posted by hagiz1 at Sucks:S19E08 - All Hell Breaks Loose Airdate: Nov 5th 2009
_______________________________________________ Make that "all RussHell breaks loose." The Murge is hear, the Murge is hear! Feel free to add the Press releases and other clues below as they appear. 
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10-29-09, 05:33 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Galu has the numbers, Galu disintegrates along girls v. guys v. Shambo lines.
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10-30-09, 07:09 AM (EST)
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2. "Preview transcript" |
Here's the transcript of the previews from SFever:Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor... Survivors: You are now one tribe! <Survivors yell and celebrate with new merged tribal buffs> To our new tribe. <Survivors toast> Russell <in confessional>: All of a sudden, all hell breaks loose. John <talking to Dave?>: Monica needs to go home tonight. Shambo <talking to Russell>: Laura is the only name we are writing down. Laura <talking to Russell>: It'll be Shambo. Kelly: It's Erik 100%. Russell <in confessional>: I gotta do what I gotta do. Things are gonna get crazy tomorrow. Note that most of these comments were made to RussHell, so he's the one doing the RussHell seed plantings just like he did on Day 1. He's getting info and planting seeds without the others knowing, probably during the beerfest at the merge party. Here's how I think the vote is going down: The three Galu girls are still unhappy at Shambo for her treatment of Laura, so they want to throw their votes to her as a little 'finger wag' to keep her in line. 3 votes for Shambo The four Galu men and (they believe) Shambo agree to stick together to vote for the FF alpha male (RussHell) to get him out of the game. That's five votes for RussHell. These four Galu men and three Galu girls believe that FF will stick together to vote somebody, so that's four votes for whoever they believe to be Galu's alpha male (Erik), so the 5 from the guys + Shambo should be enough. Whooops. One little problem with the Galu's scenario above: Shambo's not with the guys, she's agreed to go with RussHell and the other FFs. Erik gets voted out on a 5-4-3 split with RussHell getting 4 votes and Shambo 3 votes.
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10-30-09, 07:47 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Preview transcript" |
Missyae says "Of course Shambo will flip but I am told that does not just happen immediately."She also says that FF were just as surprised at TC when Galu ate one of their own. I think that FF hopes that their recruiting of Laura has worked, but they can't be sure until the votes are read. At that point, they are surprised to find that three Galoser's vote with them (Laura, Monica, Kelly). Laura would be an unexpected manipulator to the casual viewer, because her story just started to arc when Russell left (she delivered a voice-over eulogy of sorts) and last week when she went to FF. Only by reading the loser interviews would you know that Laura has control at Galu. From Laura's perspective, she is using FF to vote with her and her girls against the guys. That's not to say that RussHell relinquishes control. Laura suggests Shambo, and RussHell is not down with that at all because he wants to save Shambo for his own use. He wants to go after one of the alphas and picks Erik. Laura agrees, and manipulates his ouster amongst her minions. From RussHell's perspective, he has Laura, then sees at TC how much control she has over the votes on her own tribe. He'll use her for this, but I don't think she'll last much longer once her realizes how she's been planting Laura seeds at Galu.
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10-30-09, 12:22 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: CBS Press Release" |
P.S. Could someone tell the Galus that Erik has the HII and this is their only chance to blindside him?
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10-30-09, 12:53 PM (EST)
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I also thought it might refer to someone at Galu. But I couldn't decide who would be considered a "master" manipulator. It can't be any of the guys because they wouldn't turn on each other and Brett is too UTR. Perhaps its Laura who takes the Russhell seed and convinces the girls to turn against Erik instead of voting out someone from FF.
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10-31-09, 11:55 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
I agree that the master manipulator is possibly Natalie. She's been making bonds with the Galu that come to visit (well, at least Shambo and Laura), so Natalie could easily convince the Galu girls to join the Foa Foa ranks (perhaps by luring them with a secret female alliance, which Natalie has no intention of keeping).However, Missyae indicates that Foa Foa had no idea that Eric was going home, so maybe if Kelly (the one seen mentioning Eric in the preview) tells only Natalie, Natalie chooses to keep it a secret for some reason or another. As well, if Natalie is not the master manipulator, then I expect the unexpected manipulator to be someone like Mick or Jaison who we know are smart, but we haven't seen that smarts in the game.
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11-02-09, 07:18 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
However, Missyae indicates that Foa Foa had no idea that Eric was going homeThat's not exactly how it was put. The Foas supposedly had no idea Erik had found the HII until they watched the show. In retrospect they were shocked he didn't play it when they thought it was obvious he needed to. See the contents of Posts #89 and #106: http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/7285.shtml Which makes me wonder if Jeff is going to say anything about the HIIs now that they've merged. So far he's not mentioned them at TC. How can you play your HII if you don't know what the protocol is?
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10-31-09, 01:05 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Eh, it could be Mick and it could just be where the sun happened to be shining, but Natalie is practically glowing in that pic.
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10-31-09, 02:51 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Georjanna, you're not losing it -- I just rewatched the preview and there is definitely a shot of everyone toasting at the merge and Mick appears to be at the "head" of the table, so to speak. But I don't think it's the very 1st merge shot, which is what TDT is referring to.Also, there is a new web promo out with some new footage, and Natalie appears to be a lot more prominently positioned in that one, so TDT could very well be referring to that one. Here's the transcript of the new web promo (thanks to Survivor Fever): Announcer: When you're outnumbered... Natalie: We have four people and they have 8 Announcer: ...and outplayed... Russell <in confessional> : Keep swinging, eventually you're going to hit home runs. Announcer: ...you're only hope of survival is a merge. Russell: I'm not nervous about numbers. I'm too good for this game. Announcer: Now everyone's scrambling. Shambo <in confessional> : I'm done with her, I have no use for her. Russell: You have to outwit them. Laura: It's going to have to be a big blindside. Russell: I think she should go first. Dave: He's a crafty dude. Announcer: Can the losers pull off a shocking upset? Russell: We already have our plan down! Interesting that in the original preview, Laura was pushing for Shambo to go....but now in this new web promo, she's saying it's going to have to be a big blindside, so RussHell (or someone else? Kelly?) has obviously gotten to her and changed her mind on the boot target, because Shambo wouldn't be a big blindside.
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11-01-09, 11:10 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Squid,Thank you! I'm relieved to know that someone else had the same impression of the second merge 'portrait' that I did. Thank you, too, for all of the heavy lifting you've done this Season. I've come to rely on you to bring us the latest. And your compelling analyses to go with it. As for what happens this week: I have no idea whether the 'unexpected master manipulator' is a figment of CBS's imagination, a flash in an Episode pan or a new force in the Game. Or who it might be: he or she could be any one of the Foa Foa other than Russell. But if the manipulator is a Galu then I think that Brett is the most likely candidate. So I'll leave who does what with who to whom this week up to those of you with an eye for detail far better than mine. But, there is one thing in the transcript that you brought us that really struck me - Russell: We already have our plan down!. And I've added the emphasis because it is the first time that I recall hearing or seeing Russell use anything other than I and my in the same sentence with plan. So I wonder just how broad that we - and Russell's vulnerability - is? My luck, the we will turn out to be a royal one. G
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11-01-09, 01:27 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Darn! I wish that I could figure out how to make screen caps. I have Windows Media on my computer and a handy little key that says "Print Screen" and that 'Help' assures me is there to capture the active window's content. But, it doesn't appear to do anything when I hit it. Anyway ... I agree. Natalie is glowing. But, when I watched the preview initially, my impression was that the camera was following Mick. And, advancing the video frame-by-frame (as I am right now), that is still my impression. As the two tribes 'merge' on the beach, the first shot is of Mick in profile to center left (with John to his right) and Natalie face-front to center right. But as the camera continues to record the scene, it 'moves' Natalie off screen right and stays with a still-centered Mick's profile and ascending fist. It closes with a shot from behind him: John still to his right and Erik (I think) at his back with an embracing arm over Mick's shoulder. Mick's fist is now fully raised. And, as though in emphasis, Brett is now face-front ... applauding. And Natalie has become a shoulder. So, my feeling is that Mick and Natalie share this first (of two) merge close-ups. But the scene is Mick's. And I don't think that there can be any question about the subject of the second, follow-up portrait. With twelve citizens of a new tribe present, that is a long look at Foa-Foa's Chief. But, I don't know if the whole thing is of short-term, mid-term or long-term relevance. Or of no importance at all. It may be, though, relevant to remember that Galu was a tribe that - although its members, individually, didn't always agree with Russell Swan's decisions - as a group, bought into the concept of a Chief. And none of them bought Shambo in the role. I don't think that they bought Russell Hantz in it either. But Mick, with a bit of what makes both Russells tick in his makeup, may have finally found his constituency ...  G
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11-01-09, 12:03 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
Bringing over a couple insider clips that seem to support the idea that Natalie is the Unexpected Master Manipulator:* When Mick votes for Liz at TC: "I feel terrible about blindsiding you like this. This is strictly strategic, and that's it. We have a soft alliance over at Galu, and a lot of it hinges on Natalie's play. That's all this is about. * Liz after getting voted out: "Strategically, it makes sense for Natalie to stay, in case there is a merge....Diplomatically, Natalie has made some strides with Laura, so it's a very strategic move on Foa Foa's part. In that sense it's not that surprising they voted me out." These nuggets, coupled with all the promo and press shots of Natalie schmoozing the Galu girls, seem to confirm that she's the unexpected manipulator. That said, though, if it is indeed someone on Galu, I do really like Georjanna's take on it being Brett -- especially since he's been so hidden up to now.
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11-02-09, 08:17 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Episode 8 Title and Press Release Clues -- "All Hell Breaks Loose"" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-02-09 AT 08:18 PM (EST)"You are one tribe now." Ha! It reads one thing, "You are one tribe now" but it's says quite another. It's the equivalent of the long shot of Bob! I will be totally shocked if she doesn't win now.  Everything has truly changed.
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