Gosh, so many points I could make here. Which ones to make, which ones to not make? Where to start? Decisions decisions. Well, okay, first off...

1. This is a fan forum. Even if it weren't there is nothing wrong with being a fan.

2. If, however, you are employing the word "fan" here to mean "fanboy" (which you called me in post #26 in this thread) you should really jettison that part of your repertoir. "Fanboy" -- as you know or should know if you don't -- is a putdown, a way of calling someone unreasonable, a form of namecalling, and pushing the limits of what is permissable here. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big boy and can take it, whatever you want to dish out, and would not file a complaint with TPTB about that, so no worries, this is all in good fun after all. But it is pushing the limits. There are any number of places in this thread alone where I have thought you yourself were quite unreasonable, I haven't said so directly, but if I were to do so I would do it directly saying "I think you are being unreasonable about (whatever)."

The "moron" thing in post #30 gave me a big chuckle, by the way.

3. It actually amuses me no end that you misunderstand, misread what I write, and subsequently misrepresent what I wrote, and I don't always feel a need to point it out when I see you have done that. It's actually something to be expected in any argument. Still, when you clearly misrepresent Star Wars as taking place in the future when it was blatantly established in the very beginning of the original movie that it takes place in the past, well that's just too funny to pass up, even though it is actually meaningless otherwise in this thread.

4. I will now clarify for you something you do not seem to understand. In post #36 you wrote (after the headslap graphic):

If we only go by what happened then there's only one conclusion: All the winners were perfect, none made a single mistake.

Pretty straightforward post, nothing wrong with that, and I didn't even mind the effort at diminishing what I said with the graphic -- discussion, argument, whatever, I can take it, no biggie. But I have not taken any position in this thread or any other that anyone was a perfect player. Nor that anyone wasn't. Nor whether a perfect game is or is not possible. I haven't concerned myself with any of that.

The only position I have taken in this thread in respect to perfection was to acknowledge that a particular definition of it was a reasonable defininition of it if someone wanted to adopt it. I did not say I agreed with that definition. If someone wanted to adopt a position that a perfect player would be one who won with a unanimous jury vote in the end, I would acknowledge that as well as a reasonable definition of perfection without necessarily adopting it myself.