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"Darrah and Nash"
KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 10:11 AM (EST)
 
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"Darrah and Nash" |
This weeks episode really brought to the front to me that Darrah just isn't playing the same game as all the rest of the survivors, and to her advantage. Has there ever been 1 episode with more lies, half-truths, and sneeky underhanded manuvers? Rob C would be proud of his decendants. But I have to begrudgingly give Darrah the credit she deserves. We have see the F2 spoilers with her in them, I'm here to say that I would be suprised if she wasn't.We all had the big Nash discussions in S6, but it applies here very well. When everyone zigs, you need to zag. When you are playing against the biggest group of cut-thoat liars in Survivor history, be agreeable and go along. I hate watching her boringness, and wish they would give us reason to like her, but this is exactly what will bring home the prize.
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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 10:57 AM (EST)
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2. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
She's in a perfect position, but I'm not convinced that she's doing it on purpose. I'm starting to get convinced after this episode. She's watched numerous other competitors overplay their hands, and watched them take the walk of shame because of it. She's taking a more conservative approach and not overstrategizing herself out of the game. - With her head on the chopping block, she goes to the person she just voted for and contritely works her way back into his good graces (see Markopolo's transcript for the details). She doesn't go overboard trying to nail Burton down to lofty promises, but just tries to make him think she'd be OK with fourth place. Since this is non-threatening to his goal of winning the game, he's willing to listen to her. After she has assurances from him that she won't be the next to go, she stops. She doesn't try to overplay by forcing a next move, she just stands pat with the fact that she's not going in the next TC. This move is in direct contrast to the one that got Tijuana voted out of the game. Tijuana overplayed her hand and gave up a sure Burton boot in TC because she was trying to play another round ahead. Darrah, meanwhile, knows she can't win the endgame if she's not around to play it, and is just buying herself some time. She also knows that with another head on the chopping block - Christa's - there's no reason to do anything that would draw the attention back to herself, which is what had done in Nicole at the very first TC. She's learned from her tribemates' mistakes. - At the reward, she takes prime advantage of the fact that she has the ear of Jonny Fairplay with noone around to overhear. Unlike Lil, who sulks when Jon pokes fun at her, Darrah recognizes what a great opportunity they all have to talk strategy and uses it to her full advantage. She leads Jon to think that she would be a better F2 opponent than Lil, moving herself up from 4th to 3rd (at least) on the totem pole. Jon is willing to listen since Darrah's arguments for going farther in the game do not appear to conflict with his goal of winning the game. Lil forgot to play the game here. She was too busy jumping on the bed and getting her feelings hurt to realize this was a prime opportunity to secure her position in the pecking order. Darrah, meanwhile, recognized that this was still part of the game. I think she's also been doing a good job of not making unnecessary enemies. Her fellow Morgans on the jury have no reason to turn away from her, because she stayed loyal to them while they were in the game. She wasn't one of the ones who stabbed Rupert in the back - it was the other Drakes who "forgot" the plan to eliminate the Morgans, then Lil. Even Sandra and Christa will have to recognize that Darrah wasn't the one who broke the plan, they were, so she'd probably be a lesser evil to them out of the remaining players. And the more she gets that immunity sword, the more she reminds them that she has done well in that aspect of the game as well. Her challenge strength has to be respected.  We really do have guidelines here. Believe it or not, the Guidelines make things more fun. Really.
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GuessItRains 700 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 12:17 PM (EST)
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16. "Darrah IS Amber" |
Actually, KeithFan I think Darrah is playing Amber's strategy full-tilt. The difference (as I think you've put it pretty well) is that under Nash, the Amber/Darrah strategy is successful in a game like S7 where everybody else is being a lying manipulative jerk and trying to eliminate anybody else who threatens their leadership.Amber pursued that same UTR strategy of trying to be nice to the powers-that-be (Colby and Tina). The difference was that there Colby and Tina were secure in their power alliance and basing voting decisions on who was nice (witness voting off Jerri before Nick and Amber before Rodger). So to win, Amber should have been a b!tchy coalition builder, something she couldn't do. Bottom Line: In most previous incarnations of Survivor, Darrah would have been the "UTR 6th place loser" along the lines of Amber, Colleen, Kim P, or Erin. Here in S7 though, she brings home the bacon.
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 11:55 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: totally agree" |
I agree with what's being said here too especially with your 'go away, Lil' line, AKim.Darrah is starting to grow on me as a player, much like Matt last year. There really hasn't been any reason to dislike Darrah. Most comments here have essentially come down to her being invisible as a reason not to like her. Survivor seems to be mostly a game of lesser evils.
Jon annoys the hell out of me and I don't care for his style of play. I thought Brian from S5 was slimey too but I preferred his style of play to Jon's.
Lil is just plain annoying. A bit less so last week when she actually seemed to be thinking about the game (her convo with Burton) but the previous 3 weeks she has been unbearable. Tijuana's post-boot comments seem to show that others feel that way too. If Darrah keeps winning immunities, she is outplaying. If she allows others to overplay their hands into being booted before she is, she is outwitting. If she wins the final endurance challenge to go to final 2, she will have outlasted everyone. So, yeah, given those ifs, I think she would be a worthy winner.   whiteribbon
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ulalame 778 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 11:40 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-03 AT 11:41 AM (EST)"She is the quiet little duckling amid a bunch of honking geese, but not because of any brilliant strategy. She's just going with the flow. That's why I don't want to see her win. She's just falling into the winner's circle instead of manouevering herself there." There's more than one way to "play" this game . . . Darrah's in a game with 4 (Jon, Burton, Sandra, Christa) strong type A take control personalities, and one "swing voter" (Lil) who has been an instrumental part in every single boot. Playing UTR won Tina the game, and we admired her for it. Sometimes that's the only way to get ahead, especially in a game of desperate back-stabbing liars. Making a choice to do nothing, not rock the boat and lay low, is still making a choice. It may not be as interesting to watch as the schemers, masterminds and manipulators, but it's as good a strategy as any. One can have a brilliant plan to manipulate everyone and get to the endgame, but you also are exposing yourself to great risk of getting caught/uncovered before the finals and getting the boot (think Rob Cesternino last season). All in all, I'm beginning to like Darrah, despite her apparant lack of overt scheming.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 12:10 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
>
>"She is the quiet little duckling
>amid a bunch of honking
>geese, but not because of
>any brilliant strategy. She's just
>going with the flow. That's
>why I don't want to
>see her win. She's just
>falling into the winner's circle
>instead of manouevering herself there."
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>There's more than one way to
>"play" this game . .
>. Darrah's in a game
>with 4 (Jon, Burton, Sandra,
>Christa) strong type A take
>control personalities, and one "swing
>voter" (Lil) who has been
>an instrumental part in every
>single boot. Playing UTR
>won Tina the game, and
>we admired her for it.
> Sometimes that's the only
>way to get ahead, especially
>in a game of desperate
>back-stabbing liars.
>
Exactly. She stays quiet and folks label her a "quiet duckling" and a "corpse" and stuff like that, despite 3 challenge wins in a row. But when she does get some face time to talk, they make fun of her accent.
   
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Oscirus 1596 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 11:28 AM (EST)
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7. "Finally" |
we apparently now have a hero to jons Villan. This show is becoming more and more like a sitcom. Shes been playing the game but has been in the background the whole time. According to nicole she was part of the vote out tj bandwagon but as soon as nicole got in trouble she jumped off and voted here off . Ryan who was probably the main person who saved her got in trouble she once again goes wit the crowd and votes him of. she does a good enough job of acting without overdoing it to be one of the reasons Rupert feels safe enough not to pick up on the plot to take him out (true he was pretty dum but convincing nonetheless). She diverts the attention from burton too lil. her statement about jon not turning on her was cutoff before she finished so who knows what happened there. Unlike most people shes stayed in the background and let other people take the lead and when they messed up shes been in the position to benefit. If she wins she will be a welcome survivor winner and another member who can just as easily be a great all star survivor
if she would have swapped tribes with michelle drake would have
lost all of one challenge or at least thats what I believe
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Tiggertramp 3141 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 11:47 AM (EST)
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10. "Quiet Thunder" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-03 AT 01:59 PM (EST)Darrah is being quiet thunder like we saw in both challenges this week. She blew eveyone away in the reward challenge. She showed strength that people did not know she had, they underestimated her, as Christa said, "She was a cheerleader..." This was the first time they showed anyone saying anything about her, but then again she was amazing. And quietly shooting her targets into flames was too good. She has been completely misjudged by everyone, including us, as a non-threat as she has been the quiet one. Well the quiet one has a lot of spunk. So, initially, I was bummed that she was pulling out as the possible winner, but I am liking her a lot better after last nights episode too.
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KeithFan 7422 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 12:31 PM (EST)
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17. "We're coming out!" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-05-03 AT 12:34 PM (EST)The Darrah fans speak! (Even if she doesn't) I know, DAW, replying to my own post. I too hope she is aware of the game she is playing. My biggest fear of a Darrah win (who is the only one left to root FOR) is that when they go home after the reunion show and Darrah is interviewed on her local CBS affiliate she comes up with the line "..and then, for no apparent reason, that nice Jeff feller done give me a sword, and said I was safe this week". 
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Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 02:27 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
At this point I would be happy with Darrah winning. I think she has been playing the game. But MB has not been showing her because he had the strong personalities to showcase. Meanwhile Darrah has been paying attention and only getting involved when she needed to. She lays back and votes with the group and doesn't raise eyebrows or make enemies. Nobody on the jury has a reason to hate her. It isn't just lasting to the end, but having the votes when you get there. And she does win challenges too. So she isn't just being helped along.
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jsanb 178 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 04:18 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
LAST EDITED ON 12-09-03 AT 02:59 PM (EST)I have to agree with most of the posts so far except that comparison of Darrah to Amber. Amber was one of the worst players ever. Amber should have joined Nick- Liz- Roger to form a final four alliance and didn't, after Jerri was outed. Amber either was too stupid to see or to timid to try. Darrah had a great offer to C&S. They turned her down and took out TJ. THEN C&S turn around and want to re-form the alliance and Darrah turned it down, which was a brilliant play on Darrah's part. If she joins C&S, she is the 3rd wheel to their powerful dyad. Now with 5 players and Burton's poor play with Lil, Darrah is the one holding all the cards, and is in the best position to form a triad to go the final 3. She is the only player to NOT make a mistake. Jon& Burton took out Rupert too soon.
Christa and Sandra should have voted out Burton.
TJ should not have tried to intimate Jon let alone inform him of the plan to take out Burton
Burton needed to make an Outcast F2 pact with Lil
Jon is being way too patronizing toward Lil
Lillian is so clueless I don't even know where to begin
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings
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12-05-03, 06:01 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
I think I love you, He.
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings
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12-08-03, 11:18 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
Luv ya, He. Can't agree with you more. Absolutely hate this girl!
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings
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12-08-03, 03:42 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
>*points and laughs at the people
>trying to rationalize a darrah
>win* (which, by the way
>will NOT happen!)
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>HA-ha! 
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Oh yes it will!! And I'm gonna post something making fun of you when it does!!
>*runs away before Boner (who really
>should get a room with
>horse-faced Darrah) kills him*
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Horse-faced?!? Dude, she's, like, totally, like, so hot!!!
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Don't make me have to whack you!!
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I_AM_HE 6123 desperate attention whore postings
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12-08-03, 05:31 PM (EST)
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49. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
deal!tijuana was the only one i thought was attractive. sandra, christa, michelle, trish and lill all 5 had their moments though. but i'd rather have lillian go full tongue on me like she did burton than i would darrah. anyway, looks are hardly the way i pick favorite survivors, and personality (of which darrah has none) goes a long way towards making someone attractive (not saying that you do, but darrah's lack of, well, ANYTHING, makes her unattractive to me) 
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-03, 09:55 AM (EST)
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53. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
 And another *whack* from me for that image, too!! I'm not picking D simply for her looks, though that does help. She's the only one that's not completely A) annoying OR B) a total idiot. Burton's probably #2 in that regard, but he didn't play Lill very smart last time. Lill is a whining ditz, and Jon and Sandra are just impossibly annoying, both of them.
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DRONES 615 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-03, 08:06 AM (EST)
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52. "I'm pasting it here" |
I wonder if this original thread doesn't deserve to be re-posted so that it can have it's own thread once again?
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09-20-03, 11:22 PM (EST)
"Episode 1 Analysis: pride cometh before the fall"
I called it for S5 but struck out on S6. But the pattern did exhist in S2-4. So I will try it again since people have requested it. I have read no spoilers(except for a couple accidental ones) so this is strictly based on the analysis.
Basically the winner is portrayed in the most positive light in the first episode. A player who shows one of the following is not portrayed well...narcistic
insulting others
showing weakness
complaining So lets get down to it.... if the m/f trend continues it should be a man right? Well it may be time to break that trend just like the trend of the final IC winner losing the game. Rupert: Disses the dynamic duo. Disses jon. complained about swimming Jon: "i don't play fair" cusses, complains about mosquitos Burton: Complains about mosquitos. acted very very jealous of rupert for catching 7 fish. "he is gonna hurt himself" Shawn: insulted ruperts beard(seeing ruperts reaction you know he was insulted too) downplays ruperts hard work. Michelle: complained about sleeping wet. insulted the nude morgan men Sandra: insulted nude men. said there dingalings could get cut off. complained about burton not sharing coconut milk. disses jon. Christa: disses jon, disses other tribe for yelling. complains of being exhausted. Trish: disses dynamic duo saying they better watch out. Andrew: insults ryan s. saying he can't pull his weight. says osten is scary mary. Ryan S. : walking complaintbox he had so many complaints I can't list them all here he dissed ryan o. and the tribe for not spending more. Ryan O. after messing up and running around like a chicken with his head cut off he says "i screwed up this one." Osten: "i'm not a strong swimmer" "we were chaotic" negative comments Tijuana: Yelling at storeowners and saying they stole from her. Lillian: self doubt. worries that she looks like a mess and is not showing proper leadership to her boys back home with her shirt tied in a knot and unbuttoned. Nicole: already booted but she said "this guy is a jerk" about osten and "i don't like tijuana" That leaves one player with little screentime her late confessional was iffy ... "i like nicole but I don't know if i can trust her, but i still like her".... she states a fact but doesn't want to insult nicole by saying she still likes her. Ethan had a similiar confessional where he stated that diane carrying the map was an issue. but he said it in a diplomatic way just the same as her. So the winner? of S7 is.... Darrah  DRONES
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angelic_alex 34 desperate attention whore postings
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12-09-03, 00:47 AM (EST)
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51. "RE: Darrah and Nash" |
I really don't like Darrah, but I hate Lil even more. As long as Lil doesn't win I am happy! Darrah truly is boring, but Lil backstabbed Rupert and I didn't like that one bit! So for that reason alone.. I am rooting for Darrah.
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