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I_Got_Nutn 897 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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11-07-03, 03:58 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
I had the advantage of seeing the web promo. There is no definitive proof of IC, but typically, it is.
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11-09-03, 03:17 PM (EST)
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55. "A point in favour of this being IC" |
All speculation, but here it is anyway:In vid caps 7 and 8, Rupert is standing out in front of the merged tribe. I believe that caps 7 and 8 are taken at the same time as caps 16-18, because not only is Rupert wearing the same shirt (yea, yea, he only has one shirt out there) but if you look at his hair he also has some sort of white tie or ribbon or something holding it back in all of those vid caps. Now, what reason would there be for Rupert to be standing out in front of the tribe like he is in caps 7 and 8? While the fact that he is a desperate attention seeking media whore is one possibility, so to is the possibility that this is IC and he is handing back the Immunity Cutlass to JPro before getting started on the challenge. If you watch the promo, Rupert is shifting his weight from foot to foot and appears to be laughing. Darrah is looking at Rupert while Ryno, Sandra and T are looking forward. Therefore, I speculate that in caps 7/8 Rupert is engaging in a little bit of conversation with JPro just prior to the IC when JPro is asking for the Immunity Cutlass/Sword/ViciousPirateMachete back. All that said, right now I still have this challenge pegged as RC in certain on-line survivor games, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyhow.
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bebekid 1621 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-07-03, 03:47 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: RC or IC?" |
>The break the plates, tribal mask, >coconut chop type challenge has >usually been an IC. >It's been used in the >past to let us (and >the other tribe members) see >who's alligned with whom. (as >in people ganging up on >a particular person to take >them out first.). > >I'm right aren't I? Yup. Not senile yet, Misto. And this type challenge was used at the final 9 IC in both Marquesas and Amazon. A female, non-challenge threat has won both times because everyone guns for the strong guys. I hear that our own li'l Bebekid is like the Spoiling Queen of the Universe now. How cool is that? ~ SherpaDave
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ImNext 99 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-08-03, 03:28 PM (EST)
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53. "RE: RC or IC?" |
Her knots looked pretty sturdy when she was building the key-pole in the Outcasts win, I thought.
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11-07-03, 03:07 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
is that the immunity thingy on Darrah?
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 03:22 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Yes, they're showing a medley of Rupert's Classic TV Moments.I agree with I Got Nutn, none of the guys will win this challenge. Either Darrah or Lillian will win (the older woman's second challenge win?). Questions: Are Sandra and Christa taking "the two females" off to discuss a get-rid-of-Burton or get-rid-of-Rupert plan? Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag? Are they going to pick lemons? Why does Christa's butt look so big?
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 03:30 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Just to clarify which pics are recraps:2 - You can see Trish in bottom right 3 - Old Drake challenge victory 4 - This has been used before 5 - Fishing during visit with the Morons 9-10-11 - fight night from last week 12-13 - Merged tribe arrives at Drake beach in last ep. Yep, this is the reel from "Rupert, this is your life." >Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag? I thought it was a plastic water jug, but I think you're right. Remember Christa was strategizing with Rupert and Burton under the guise of lemon-picking, so this could be a cover.
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 03:31 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:32 PM (EST)Why does Christa's butt look so big? The camera adds 10 pounds and she's got 4 of them on her! --is substituting bashing for spoiling
edited to fix a stoopid mistake
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11-07-03, 03:37 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Are Sandra and Christa taking "the two females" off to discuss a get-rid-of-Burton or get-rid-of-Rupert plan?I think so, but why turn on him now, when they've got Morgan outnumbered? Why "cut their own throats" to make it even with Morgan members? Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag? Are they going to pick lemons? Not sure, but not a pretty shot of her nether regions. Why does Christa's butt look so big? I don't know, but woweee.. I thought it was Lil, but then I saw the hair. By the way, sooo excited about the lie, and I would think Darrah or Tijuana would be out of the running for this challenge win: I would think Drake would knock off their plates after Rhino's, and let Lil's stay.. Lil wins IMHO... a wonderful kyngsladye original
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joannie 380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-07-03, 05:20 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
In the "Breaking Plates" Challenge, aren't the plates supposed to have names on them? How do they know which plates to break?
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I_Got_Nutn 897 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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11-07-03, 07:20 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
In the past each player has a different color.
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 03:35 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Take a look at this pic, especially just above the Survivor banner. There's an area just over the logo that looks blurred out, and another area on Christa's uncharacteristically HUGE butt that looks blurred out:In the following cap, the fuzziness around Christa's butt is gone, but it still appears over the logo. Because of this fuzz, I can't tell what Tijuana is carrying.
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jkokoj 4389 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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11-07-03, 03:36 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:47 PM (EST)Agreed Sandra and Christa are gonna want to keep T & D. They will attempt to realign. I think Sandra will be the biggest instigater in this as she is afraid of Burton and now that she has seen Rupert talking with Burton she knows her goose could be cooked. Save the women of Morgan while voting out the strong men in their tribe. Could Rupert possibly go before Ryan O.? Edited: With Christa talking about getting rid of Rupert, this could be misdirection. Christa has been the one each time someone has tried to oust Rupert to tell him about it. I am having a hard time getting a read on Christa. During the show she seems to be 100% with Rupert, but somehow after the show and in vidcaps and such it seems that we are shown a little more. Again, is it misdirection to let us think Christa and Sandra will plot against Rupert, or are they plotting to get rid of Burton, Jon, Ryan O. and Lil.
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-07-03, 03:59 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
This reeks of the OMG Betrayal episode, we saw Rupert, we saw Shawn blah blah blah and bye bye Trish.Getting rid of Rupert has been a backstory since Episode 2. What I am interested in is who exactly is discussing who here. We have Sandra telling Christa to hook the women and goodbye Burton....... But then we have a suspicious confessional of Christa mentioning Rupert (when did Burton become safe here?) Is this confessional AFTER the women's coffee klatch? We have Burton and Jon discussing the extinction of Rupert. Ironically Rupert is NOWHERE during all this clandestine discussions when he is NORMALLY directly involved or involved by being told? Didn't we have a similar situation in the previews and only until the show we saw Rupert being told what is going on? Somehow I find it virtually impossible that Rupert is not there for any of this at all. Rhino and Lillian completely not being incorporated in any of this either tells me something also regarding their opinion in all this or aren't we being shown this either. (color me confused and oh so very suspicious)
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11-07-03, 04:04 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Or a combination of Rupert/Rhino/Lill are enjoying the reward...
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 05:04 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 05:08 PM (EST)Keep in mind that when this challenge was done in the Amazon (as the E11 IC) the goal was to break your own plates. Jenna won, but she wasn't competing against any particularly athletic people except for Matthew, who wasn't trying. I remember the plate-smashing challenge (or its equivalent) as being the Ep 8 IC right before they got rid of Dave. Wasn't the EP 11 IC the shuffleboard IC that Jenna won? Or was it the "guess who said what" IC that Rob won? Edited to say: now I remember, Rains, you're right, they had to break plates before taking the shuffleboard shots. In Ep 8 they were smashing masks.
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11-10-03, 08:57 PM (EST)
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86. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
MF?
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volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-07-03, 06:18 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
VS, I am thinking this through as I am typing so I hope I don't ramble! I would like to try and bring the info from The Early Show this morning with Andrew. This is in The Early Show thread as well. But, Andrew said that Rupert offered him a deal where Rupert would bring himself and his two and Andrew would bring his two and himself. Well, this would form a six person alliance with 10 people left in the game. This would take Andrew no worse than sixth place. Then in Rupert's voting confessional, Rupert says Andrew approached him too late and he is going home. OK..to my point, If Ryan does go next...that means that Ryan and Darrah does not approach Rupert for the same deal (this would happen if Andrew didn't tell them about it but I can't see him not at least getting their opinions)! And after lastnight, knowing that a Morgan was targeted and they lost...they have to know they are on the short end of the stick. I think all the previews are setting up the boot of Rupert in episode 9! Not here. It makes no sense for the Drake tribe to fall apart here...NONE! They can't afford to let the tribes be equal again! BTW...THIS IS MY 100th POST! I know this may not be many for some of you but, I am so excited!
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Blow by Blow 895 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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11-07-03, 06:42 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
>Andrew said that Rupert >offered him a deal where >Rupert would bring himself and >his two and Andrew would >bring his two and himself. Yeah, I thought this was interesting and I think the problem was that Andrew didn't have a firm three to bring to the table. I think he could have delivered TJ, but Darrah and RyanO were too tight to split up and he was probably trying to figure out if he could ditch TJ without her knowing about it. My guess is that he never got this pulled together, but tried a last ditch deal with Rupert just to save his butt. As you speculate above, if RyanO and Darrah don't try to make this deal on their own with Rupert, then RyanO is going home. I'm guessing they never knew this was an option and thought Andrew could bring Lill back into the fold. Actually, I'm certain RyanO never thought this was an option, but Darrah's already thinking about it. She knows Rupert likes his harem and would take another female into the group. After all, this is the guy whose favorite magazine is Playboy. Real clever. This is probably the most compelling web preview I've seen, but I think the strategizing is long-term and won't come into play until the 20th. -P
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-07-03, 07:52 PM (EST)
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44. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 09:05 PM (EST)There seems to be a discrepancy between what Andrew said in his interview about the Rupert deal, and what Rupert said during his vote. Andrew said that Rupert got Lil and that negated the offer, but Rupert said he came to him last minute and said he did want it and it was too late. Very different views. Here are the quotes: http://www.survivornews.net/news.php?id=350 Q: Were you surprised Rupert voted for you when you were so gracious when he was with Morgan? I wish you had won!! Andrew: Very cool and thank you. What you didn't see is that after the feast, Rupert and I had an alliance. There were three Morgans and three Drakes. A handful of minutes before we got into the boat to go to TC, Lil decided to jump ship and side with the Drake tribe. As soon as she did that, my alliance with Rupert disappeared. There was no reason for the Drakes to align with the Morgans, because with Lil, the Drakes had superior numbers. And to answer your question, yes, it hurt very much that Rupert voted for me.
From Yahoo Marcopolo's thread (thanks) http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4372&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0 Rupert (votes Andrew): After the feast, I tried to offer you a deal. It would have got you to six easy, and maybe more. You three and my three. You tell me no. And you come back two minutes before this damn council and say, "yeah it's a deal." I can't change everything after that. Your own team starting turning on you after that. You're gone man, I'm sorry. Very different. Andrew seems to be very bitter, just not showing it. He must really dislike what happened to him. He just keeps saying how wondering Morgan was, even Osten, when the whole world sees it so differently. Even said that Drake was a Club Med while they were starving. Well, that's what you get when you go looking for food!
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-07-03, 07:54 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Congrats on your 100th post volsfan Rupert is complete misdirection here just as he has been in some other episodes but I'm sure at some point the real coup for Rupert will try to happen. I guess I am somewhat confused by all the different hubub and how it contradicts each other. Christa mentions Rupert but Sandra mentions Burton. Jon/Burton mention Rupert and Rupert is nowhere to be found during all of this. Burton may be playing Jon by discussing Rupert OR Burton has no problem taking Rupert out. T/D/R are twisting in the wind and any of them will grab a rope if offered. Interject rant of how STUPID Drake is to discuss booting their own right now (rant over) Lillian seems the safest of them all right now! My only conclusion at this point because I already committed to Ryan last week is that he was not invited by the women, not talked to by the men and this coup is making us twist in the wind until next week as we have all surmised and then the real games begin. For Burton to swear to his outcasts he would never lie to them Then discusses with R/C about if they continue to lie, Morgan is going to take over and then further mention that this game is about deceipt is only telling me that Drake will continue to lie to each other including Burton and all this stupid lying is going to cause at least one Morgan to gain a foothold somewhere.
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JazzyJax 531 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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11-08-03, 00:35 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
You know Veruca, you are right, Rupert is MIA from alot of the discussions, usually he is hanging around. I wonder if all the old Rupert footage was put in the promos to cover for the fact that Rupert is missing a good deal of the time due to enjoying part of the reward challenge? Could explain why Rupert is so hostile to Jon, surely Jon would not be mouthing off if Rup was in the vicinity? Rupert and almost anyone would make an odd couple. If Lil won, I could see Burton suggesting to her to take Rupert to ingratiate her in the Drake alliance. I know, I know, reading too much into it...
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LeftPinky 4150 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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11-08-03, 04:32 AM (EST)
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49. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
>Interject rant of how STUPID Drake is to discuss booting their own right now (rant over) Lillian seems the safest of them all right now! VS, we forget that (Dave excepted) these people aren't rocket scientists. They don't ever seem to use any common sense or knowledge of what has happened in previous games.
As was discussed in several places last week, the GT returnees have a lot of power in their group of 2. While most people will now assume that Burton is Drake and Lil is the Morgan traitor, I believe that are a fairly firm voting block and at this point in the game can swing the vote to suit them - and get an Outcast much closer to the million bucks. I agree that Lil is safe, she would definitely realign back with Morgan to save Burton (i.e. if she hears that Burton goes, she and Burton vote with D/R/T).
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-09-03, 01:11 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Rupert is gone for about 5 hours a day fishing for his tribe. While he does that everyone is getting closer and plotting - against him.Rupert did want to control the food production, just so that he would be found valuable. He brought that up to Jon when he confronted him about voting him out. Others voted out said that Rupert wasn't very friendly, that he didn't socialize very much. Key to being #1 is to be liked. Rupert's treatening Jon and his outbursts maybe well staged, but they seem to me a bit egotistical. Everyone has a right to vote for who they want. Rupert telling Jon he was going to kill him was a turn off, Jon's not going to forget that and neither is anyone else who was in earshot. Me thinks Rupert has become a bit too full of himself. And when that happens it blinds them to what's going on around them. Instead of thinking he's in control - he's actually lost control of the players and the game. That being said I like the guy and probably will be bored to death once he leaves.
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11-09-03, 08:17 PM (EST)
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56. "How could it possibly HELP?" |
We have Tijuana saying: "If one of the guys get hurt..."What possible help could this be to Tijuana and ANY possible alliance? If she has the votes on her side, her alliance could vote anyone off. If she doesn't have the votes on her side, I don't see how "getting hurt" could possibly help any alliance she's in. I don't see how a player "getting hurt" will influence the voting with the POSSIBLE exception of drawing votes to themselves and what good is THAT? What scenario could Tijuana imagine would help her alliance if one of them acted hurt?
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KLicK 316 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-09-03, 08:21 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: How could it possibly HELP?" |
Maybe she's talking about Rupert and Burton and says, "The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys gets hurt...
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mavsfan 693 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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11-10-03, 01:44 AM (EST)
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61. "quote - unquote "gets hurt"" |
When T makes her comment I thought she was making little quote marks in the air in conjunction with "gets hurt" which I would take to mean the one who "gets hurt" isn't REALLY hurt, they are faking it.So it wouldn't make sense to me to say: "The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys gets hurt... " which, if I understand the "air quote marks" would be read as: "The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys "FAKES" getting hurt..." It doesn't add up to me.
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I_Got_Nutn 897 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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11-09-03, 10:45 PM (EST)
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58. "Sunday Football Promo" |
We get a little more help from one of the football promos.in this cap:
it looks like Rupert has the "Sword of Immunity" at his waist. In this cap:
we see Rupert holding an answer square. So evidently they have to answer questions correctly in order to get a shot at the plates. So... It would appear that this is the IC, but it involves more that just ability with a wrist-rocket. It is also a mental challenge. It seems a little soon to be asking questions about each other, so it is probably Pearl Island general info. Like are pelicans good eats? This gets me no closer to who wins. I'll leave that question to sharper minds than my own.
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O2dawg 68 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-10-03, 00:50 AM (EST)
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60. "Plates challenge" |
This reminds me of the PARANG SWING (coconut/rope) Immunity challenge S4, the Snuff it(dousing torches) S5 IC, or the FACE OFF (Mask smash) in S6. These were all Immunity Challenges.It looks like each survivor has a mast with a crows nest at the top. Along the mast are colored plates, I can see 3 in the above pictures. Previous vidcaps show Rupert aiming with a slingshot, and a blue dish breaking.
Given that Rupert has an "answer box" they must have to answer question to gain a shot at the plates. It appears that they have to break the 3 plates to release the ties attached to each plate. And assumingly when all 3 plates are broken and the 3 attached ropes are free, something is released from the crows nest atop the mast. It seems to me that all of these types of challenges in past seasons have been for IC. The only difference might be seeing that Rupert has a light blue answer box, and is apparently shooting at a light blue plate, maybe this challenge is to break their own plates, and thus may be a reward challenge. But I think the odds point towards an immunity challenge, as in previous seasons.
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Emily RugBurn 663 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator"
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11-10-03, 12:07 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Plates challenge" |
Great observations!Also note that Sandra's sleeve is down in the first and last pic, but it's rolled up in third. More evidence to support the theory that these caps are from two different challenges. I'm wondering if the order in which the contestants are standing in the last pic is at all significant? At first glance it looks like ex-Morgan on the left (minus Burton who is on his way somewhere) and ex-Drake on the right, but at a second glance, from L-R we have what looks like three groups. (A quite bearded) Burton on his own, walking (towards the group?), then Jon, Rhino, Lil and TJ, then on the right we have Darrah, Christa, Sandra & Rupert. Another way to look at it is all the women are standing next to each other and they’re book-ended by the two strongest. Burton looks dejected (perhaps he was just eliminated), and Rupert and Sandra look somewhat satisfied. ~ EmRB Captian Howdy says: "A super hero without super strength is just a nut job in a leotard." And I believe `em! |
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-10-03, 03:20 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Plates challenge" |
Well if they did just walk in, I guess I'm having trouble that the item at Rupert's waist is the same thing that was strapped across Burton's chest unless Rupert has it on under the shirt, then puts the shirt back on inside out explaining the seams. Or the IC is the quiz and the slingshots are the reward?
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11-10-03, 03:36 PM (EST)
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72. "RE: Plates challenge" |
Or the IC >is the quiz and the >slingshots are the reward? VS, I think that's much more likely. This shot of Rupert appears to be him still competing while Ryan and company look on (probably already eliminated). But notice that we still see something hanging from his waist. It can't be the II if this is mid challenge, because he would have returned it already, so the thing at his waist upon arrival is probably the thing that holds up his skirt...
The quiz cube challenge has been used for Immunity before. One example is the torch snuffing IC where answer cubes were used and Penny turned on Jake...
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Brownroach 15341 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-10-03, 04:30 PM (EST)
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74. "RE: Plates challenge" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03 AT 04:31 PM (EST)I'm liking the slingshots as the RC now too. We have Rupert, Lillian, and Ryan O. missing from all the "plotting" scenes. I could see Rupert winning this challenge. Maybe he takes Lillian on the reward? That would be an unlikely couple -- and I can see Rupert cranking up the AC at the hotel as was reported. Perhaps Burton gets miffed after having given Rupert immunity, and starts talking to Jon about voting him off. Meanwhile Sandra and Christa start talking to Tijuana and Darrah about Burton...but where is Ryan O. in all this? I think all these caps can be from the same challenge. I don't see the issue with the seams -- are you talking about the edging on Rupert's tank straps? I can see it in all the caps.
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udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-10-03, 05:00 PM (EST)
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76. "Nests on top..." |
My thought when looking at them is, maybe the plates provide enough counter balance to keep the nests from toppling. When the weight of the plates is gone (because the plates have been broken), the nests topple, and... the player is out, or something else?
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11-10-03, 05:04 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: Plates challenge" |
I think that the crows nest are really just to stay with the pirate theme. MB probably found out that some pirates really did this find of target practice on ships. There's no way in my mind that anyone will get into those things; the posts just aren't sturdy enough to support Burton/Rupert.The other possibility is that the plates are holding counterweights and that when all three are broken, the basket at the top falls over releasing sand or something to show that the person is out of the game. To support this idea, if you look at the cap when the plate is broken, there is a lot of extra stuff on the post: ribbons and a black thingy floating to the right. Anyway, I agree with Big Regret, er, I mean, BR, err, BrownRoach that all challenge caps are the same challenge, that being the IC. In all the three strikes and you're out challenges, you needed to do something (like answering questions) to merit being able to shoot down one of your opponents. I don't think we've seen any pics of the RC unless as postulated by some, the questions and slingshots are two different challenges. Another quality creation by JSlice
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TeamJoisey 3558 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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11-11-03, 01:21 PM (EST)
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89. "RE: Plates challenge" |
>LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03 >AT 05:27 PM (EST) > OK, I'm probably insane for even speaking this out loud. The reward challenge is a night away at a resort. Presumably, the first thing they all would do is shower with real hot water and towels and such. So look at these two photos. Rupert's hair is sweaty and stringy in one, and, uh, slightly less stringy and sweaty in the other. In general, he just looks cleaner. We know they are from different moments because his shirt is inside out in the second photo. Could it be that Rupert won the RC with the answer cube, enjoys the reward, and then shows up at IC with his shirt inside out? That would make the plate smash the IC. Also, something the frame grabs don't show: When the plate breaks, it frees the ribbon and that allows the brown lever behind the plate to swing down and to the left. My assumption here is that you break all three plates, freeing all three levers, and causing the crow's nest to dump water or sand or Outkast body parts onto the woodpile. That black iron thing in the background on the plate shot is a counterweight used to balance the heavy weight tilting above. The ribbon alone won't hold it, so it must be counterweighted in some manner so that the ribbon is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Isn't much of a spoiler, but HAS got a two-letter nickname!
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udg 3381 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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11-12-03, 05:05 PM (EST)
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106. "I've been obsessing about this all freakin' day!" |
It's 11 pm here, so I do mean ALL FREAKIN' DAY!Anyway, I do think you're right that the plate breaking allows the lever to swing, and that the thing on the other end of the lever looks suspiciously like a torch. I combined that with Madame Fleas' observation of piles of wood that look like they're taylor made for a bon fire, and I came up with this challenge: Part 1: Castaways must build a fire at the base of their masts. Part 2: That fire catches the torch-lever at the bottom of the mast (which is not all THAT low). Part 3: Castaways must break the plates with sling shots. Breaking the bottom plate moves that torch-lever so that it lights the 2nd torch-lever, and so on. When all 3 torch-levers have been triggered, the top torch-lever lights the nest on top. Of course, my darling husband was quick to point out that this would be a tough one to judge. Previous "light this on fire" challenges have been objective. Burn through this string, and when the string breaks, you win. This would be a lot more subjective, as our favorite JP would have to determine the exact moment the nest caught on fire (unless there's more to it than that). And, I'll be the first to admit that there seems to be too much room for failure in my theory. What happens if a torch burns out before the next plate is broken? -- UDG, who also realizes that this really isn't all THAT important in the "grand" scheme of Survivor. It's a disease, d--- it!
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-10-03, 07:49 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Interesting Lineup - and also look at how close they stand next to each other:
Starting from right to left, cause I just had Chinese food: Rupert - Sandra - Christa and ...Darrah! with Sandra standing very close to Rupert. To me, it seems that Sandra is just as close to Rupert, as Christa is. then a rather BIG gap followed by: Ti - Lil - Ryan - Jon - Burton with Lil standing at attention (looks like she's about the Salute!) Ti has her hands clasped and her head down. Feeling guilty perhaps that she has an alliance that doesn't include Darrah? It doesn't bod (sp)well that Rupert is alone on the other end away from the other guys. Does this indicate that new alliances have formed already? That being said, this challenge looks fun. and MF's observations (good eyes) seem to be right on target, pun intended.
The most unlikely couple? Rupert and Jon.
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pdragonfly 318 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host"
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11-11-03, 02:49 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
I agree that for the sake of the challenge its not how they are lined up but whose plate they knock out (if they have to knock someone's out).That will show us a LOT. However, for the sake of alliances, one of the past winners - believe it to be Tina - gave advice on looking for signs of allances as to who sits where and stands next to who at challenes etc. There are blatant alliances, which might stand out with this challenge and then there are the secret alliances, which may not be so discernable - not even by studying who sits next to who. If someone totally misses the plates during the challenge we will have no way of knowing if this signifys a bad aim or a deliberate miss. In either case if we compare where they stand with who they hit, we might get an idea (but might not) of who's alligned with who. Its fun but its not an exact science.
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Befuzzled 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-11-03, 06:00 PM (EST)
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98. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
Is this the basic timeline that is happening during the plate smashing challenge then?They enter the challenge area, with Rupert in the lead followed by Sandra and Christa, all of whom are looking fairly serious. Rupert's white seam is showing, red portion of shirt is on right shoulder. Sandra's sleeves are down. Then they line up. Rupert, Sandra and Christa being the first ones in and Jon and Burton bringing up the tail end, being the last to line up. Sandra's sleeves are still down. Rupert has red on right shoulder and I think his white seam is showing but am not certain. There is no Immunity Cutlass in sight and this is when JeffP would normally take the IC back, therefore this is RC. Maybe, probably. Then the pics 16-18 of Rupert firing slingshot with Jon's (or Ryan's) elbow showing. His shirt is consistent with the other pics, as is his hair and hair tie. Then pics 7&8 of Rupert with Sandra, Darrah, Tijuana and Ryan crowded behind him. Sandra's sleeves are now rolled up. Rupert's shirt placement and white tie in hair are consistent with other shots of the smashing plates challenge. Given the makeup of the group behind Rupert in those pics, I think it would make more sense that these are the people that have been eliminated from the challenge rather than those still in it because I can't imagine those 3 Morgans all outlasting those missing from the pic. But, if that is so, why wouldn't they be able to spread out to watch the rest of the challenge easier? Also, the people missing from those pics seem to be an unlikely final 4 in that sort of challenge where I would expect the Morgan's to target Jon based on their TC voting. So, I'm conflicted on what those pics mean.
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aethelstan 4435 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Jerry Springer Show Guest"
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11-11-03, 03:05 PM (EST)
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92. "Pic 3, 12 and 13." |
LAST EDITED ON 11-11-03 AT 03:09 PM (EST)there's a lot of hugging going on. Jon wins RC and takes Christa to go with him and so in pics 12 and 13 you see them after they have come back from their night away at the hotel. Jon is hugging Tijuana and Christa is hugging Ryan. Also, their hair looks remarkably clean. Jon's especially, not matted or scraggly at all. It looks clean in later pics too. (of course, it could be that morgan was allowed to bring the shower/shampoo to balboa but i don't think so). So, I think the unlikely pair to go to the resort are Jon and Christa. (Jon secretly hopes that he may have a chance with her?) Edited to say: Oops! I just went back and saw Frisky's post that pics 3, 12 and 13 are recap pics. Oh well, I thought I had something there. Another quality creation by JSlice
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-11-03, 04:40 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: Pic 3, 12 and 13." |
I don't think necessarily with what has been given to us that Sandra and Christa ARE focusing on Rupert. If Ryan is the natural boot in the order that has been discussed by Rupert and his alliance and it is a foregone conclusion he is next, Sandra and Christa (or Sandra I should say) may be discussing what they should do after Ryan is gone. Should we boot Burton and keep the girls? I think it is a natural presumption that after Ryan, the Morgan pagonging would continue so Sandra is perhaps discussing what could they could do instead. Sandra has been very wary of Burton's return and she was not part of the walk with B/R/C and I think Burton scares the pants off her. The Christa confessional? Spank me and call me stupid, I will welcome it gladly if she is in anyway discussing an intention involving herself to boot Rupert. I just don't see it and there really has been no indication (for me) involving Christa that she would turn on him. The only nibble I saw was I believe in stuff Trish said but I think her comments were bogus and misguided as a whole but that is just my take on all the interviews/chats. Jon and Burton are the ones who are mentioning Rupert (or should I say Burton) Again, I get so wary of these blurbs. What context is Burton saying this? Did Jon say something first? Who knows but usually if we hear the plan, it ain't happening. Since we've come to the non surprising conclusion that Ryan is the most logical boot anyway, this episode is only important in seeing any shifts happen because T/D are on an outside, Jon is on an outside, B/L are on an outside, etc. There are quite a few people who are vulnerable because there are Morgans, Drakes, Balboas, Ghosts and Hangers.
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Befuzzled 65 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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11-11-03, 05:22 PM (EST)
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96. "I agree" |
Is there any point in stating that I agree? I dunno, but I could use the DAW rating boost.
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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11-12-03, 07:46 AM (EST)
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99. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo" |
While I'm a big proponent on past challenge history, I think I will go with the IC being the quiz this time. Rupert is wearing some object that is not the IS so if he were to wear the sword to the immunity challenge, why would he have this object strapped to his waist as well. The way the IS lays, it seems that it would get in the way. Rupert and Burton are major challenge contenders, if you can't "fix" the winner, you fix the challenge. A quiz is pretty much an equal opportunity challenge Since the "major" purpose of these types of challenges is to bring out to the open who is zapping who and who are in tighter alliances, this is not as necessarily integral at this period of time due to the dynamics of the ghosts returning and the merger. There are so many branches coming from Balboa that I don't necessarily believe the vulnerable people need to "see" how vulnerable they are. There are actually more vulnerable people than safe people here and they know it. The only videocap I saw with Rupert's tank top looking different was the cube one so I am going with that is a separate challenge IMO If the overnight stay IS this reward and a male wins, I'm more inclined to believe people like Rupert or Burton would win this knowing a male wins rather than the quiz where a male winning is not a lock. (Kisses to MF and major props to IC)
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PhoenixMons 4696 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 08:07 AM (EST)
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101. "Okay..." |
...now that I got that swoop out of the way I, like some others, think the cube and plate-smashing are different challenges. There is no explanation for Rupert's tank top having visible white stitching in the cube picture and not the others. There have also, if memory serves correctly, been question/answer challenges and "smashing" challenges that were challenges in and of themselves. Outback saw the plate smashing challenge (won by Colby, I believe) that was just slingshots and plates and the goal was to have your plates NOT smashed (so you smash others). Outback also saw the question and answer game where it was just about answering questions about the region (I remember this one because ALicia "won" it for Kucha). I'm sure there are others. Also, I am thinking maybe the plate smashing challenge would be one that would require them to smash the plates of others. I believe the times when similar challenges (smashing or even the shuffleboard challenge) took place, you had to answer questions (or do some other sort of thing to get a certain number of "chances" to succeed) only when the challenge involved doing something to YOUR OWN plates (or whatever). If it's about knocking out or removing someone else, the challenge doesn't involve anything else except some strategy and aim. The 80s are back, like totally! 2003 winner of the coveted "Punky"
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Maebe 13 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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11-12-03, 03:31 PM (EST)
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104. "Anyone else notice?" |
That they are adding old pictures to their "new" promo pictures?Examples: They added the hugging picture.. in it you will see that it is Andrew hugging Christa (This is from when they first got to their new home). At least I am convinced it is, going by the hair and the shorts. Also, Christa still has on her blue buff as a top, would be a bit hard for her to have left it behind. The one they show Rupert getting hugged by Jon, it's from a different older event. They are still wearing their blue buffs. One also shows Rupert holding up the Immunity Pole thing, which they no longer use. In most of the pictures, they make it look like Rupert is going to rock and roll this week once again. I for one am fearful...GO RUPERT!!! but not bye bye. P.S. I have lurked long enough, I had to finally join up and put in my 2 cents.
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mistofleas 8043 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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11-12-03, 03:49 PM (EST)
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105. "RE: Anyone else notice?" |
Welcome to the fun Maebe!They've actually been using past stuff quite a bit this season. I guess MB thinks we're not paying attention or something. *cough*dork*cough* Or He thinks the average viewer Joe is starting TO pay attention to the preview clips and he's trying to trip them up. *cough*dork*cough* --tells maebe to have some fun with us
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