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"Episode 8 Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:15 PM (EST)

Survivor Fever has caps from the Web Promo for Episode 8. It's all about Rupert again.

http://www.survivorfever.net/vc_ep8_webpromo.html

Voice Over:

VO: Rupert is a Survivor hero and a fan favorite. Sometimes generous...
Ti: Rupert does alot of hunting and fishing...
VO: ...always dominating...
Rupert: Damnit, look at me!
VO: Now will the merged tribe conspire against the island king?
Christa: We might be able to get rid of Rupert.
Burton (to Jon): We've got to get Rupert off right now.
VO: Or will they cut their own throats?
Rupert (to Jon): You cross me, I'll kill you.
VO: Plus a sinister plot is brewing...
Tijuana: If one of the guys get hurt...
VO: ...and you'll never guess who's behind it.
Sandra: You want to come along?

I'll edit the caps in:

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Edited to number the caps.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Bebo 11-07-03 1
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-07-03 2
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Bebo 11-07-03 9
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-07-03 18
           A point in favour of this being IC Befuzzled 11-09-03 55
       RC or IC? forehead 11-07-03 10
           RE: RC or IC? mistofleas 11-07-03 14
               RE: RC or IC? bebekid 11-07-03 16
                   RE: RC or IC? JazzyJax 11-07-03 24
                       RE: RC or IC? ExInterper 11-07-03 46
                           RE: RC or IC? JazzyJax 11-08-03 47
                           RE: RC or IC? ImNext 11-08-03 53
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo 1unatic 11-07-03 3
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo frisky 11-07-03 6
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo JazzyJax 11-07-03 17
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo FarmBoy 11-07-03 4
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Brownroach 11-07-03 5
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo frisky 11-07-03 7
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo mistofleas 11-07-03 8
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo rose 11-07-03 13
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_AM_HE 11-07-03 22
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-07-03 23
                   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo joannie 11-07-03 33
                       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-07-03 43
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Blow by Blow 11-07-03 40
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo frisky 11-07-03 11
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo mistofleas 11-07-03 15
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo jkokoj 11-07-03 12
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-07-03 19
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo LozengeofLove 11-07-03 20
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo KLicK 11-07-03 30
 Et Tu Christa I_Got_Nutn 11-07-03 21
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo GuessItRains 11-07-03 25
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Brownroach 11-07-03 29
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo URang 11-07-03 26
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Acawap 11-07-03 27
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo mistofleas 11-07-03 28
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Brownroach 11-07-03 32
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Acawap 11-07-03 37
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo volsfan 11-07-03 39
           silly misto PhoenixMons 11-07-03 36
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo lovetowatch 11-10-03 86
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Brownroach 11-07-03 34
 caps 14 and 15 I_AM_HE 11-07-03 31
   RE: caps 14 and 15 BrassFan 11-08-03 50
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo DoodleBug 11-07-03 35
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-07-03 38
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo volsfan 11-07-03 41
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Blow by Blow 11-07-03 42
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo pdragonfly 11-07-03 44
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-07-03 45
                   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo JazzyJax 11-08-03 48
                       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo BrassFan 11-08-03 51
                   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo LeftPinky 11-08-03 49
                       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-08-03 52
                           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo pdragonfly 11-09-03 54
 How could it possibly HELP? mavsfan 11-09-03 56
   RE: How could it possibly HELP? KLicK 11-09-03 57
       quote - unquote "gets hurt" mavsfan 11-10-03 61
 Sunday Football Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-09-03 58
   RE: Sunday Football Promo Befuzzled 11-09-03 59
   Plates challenge O2dawg 11-10-03 60
       RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 62
           RE: Plates challenge Brownroach 11-10-03 63
               RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 64
                   RE: Plates challenge I_Got_Nutn 11-10-03 65
                       RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 66
                           RE: Plates challenge I_Got_Nutn 11-10-03 68
                           RE: Plates challenge pinchy 11-12-03 109
           RE: Plates challenge Emily RugBurn 11-10-03 67
               RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 69
               RE: Plates challenge Brownroach 11-10-03 70
                   RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 71
                       RE: Plates challenge Krautboy 11-10-03 72
                           RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 73
                               RE: Plates challenge Brownroach 11-10-03 74
                           RE: Plates challenge Blow by Blow 11-10-03 75
                               Nests on top... udg 11-10-03 76
                                   RE: Nests on top... mistofleas 11-10-03 81
                               RE: Plates challenge aethelstan 11-10-03 77
                                   RE: Plates challenge VerucaSalt 11-10-03 78
                                       RE: Plates challenge I_Got_Nutn 11-10-03 79
                                           RE: Plates challenge Brownroach 11-10-03 83
                                           RE: Plates challenge TeamJoisey 11-11-03 89
                                               RE: Plates challenge MattyMax 11-11-03 94
                                               RE: Plates challenge pinchy 11-12-03 108
                                       I've been obsessing about this all ... udg 11-12-03 106
                                           RE: I've been obsessing about this ... aethelstan 11-12-03 107
                                   RE: Plates challenge Brownroach 11-10-03 80
                                       RE: Plates challenge aethelstan 11-10-03 82
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo pdragonfly 11-10-03 84
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo I_Got_Nutn 11-10-03 85
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo wendyp 11-11-03 87
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-11-03 88
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Spanky68 11-11-03 90
               RE: Episode 8 Web Promo pdragonfly 11-11-03 91
           RE: Episode 8 Web Promo Befuzzled 11-11-03 98
 Pic 3, 12 and 13. aethelstan 11-11-03 92
   RE: Pic 3, 12 and 13. JazzyJax 11-11-03 93
       RE: Pic 3, 12 and 13. VerucaSalt 11-11-03 95
           I agree Befuzzled 11-11-03 96
               *LOL* cqvenus 11-12-03 103
 RE: Episode 8 Web Promo BeerNuts 11-11-03 97
   RE: Episode 8 Web Promo VerucaSalt 11-12-03 99
       RE: Episode 8 Web Promo mistofleas 11-12-03 102
 just swooped in PhoenixMons 11-12-03 100
 Okay... PhoenixMons 11-12-03 101
   Anyone else notice? Maebe 11-12-03 104
       RE: Anyone else notice? mistofleas 11-12-03 105

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Bebo 21083 desperate attention whore postings
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11-07-03, 02:51 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
First impression? Rupert wins IC.

We really do have guidelines here. Believe it or not, the Guidelines make things more fun. Really.

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2. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Not a chance. This is the "break others stuff (plates this time) until all of your stuff is broken" challenge. The strong are always the first out.

I would think Darrah would win, being perceived as the least threat.

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9. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I made that comment before the pics were up. If these are pics from IC, I agree totally that Rupert will not win IC. Typically, this is an IC game (but wouldn't put it past EPMB to misdirect the spoilers).

We really do have guidelines here. Believe it or not, the Guidelines make things more fun. Really.

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18. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I had the advantage of seeing the web promo.
There is no definitive proof of IC, but typically, it is.
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55. "A point in favour of this being IC"
All speculation, but here it is anyway:

In vid caps 7 and 8, Rupert is standing out in front of the merged tribe. I believe that caps 7 and 8 are taken at the same time as caps 16-18, because not only is Rupert wearing the same shirt (yea, yea, he only has one shirt out there) but if you look at his hair he also has some sort of white tie or ribbon or something holding it back in all of those vid caps.

Now, what reason would there be for Rupert to be standing out in front of the tribe like he is in caps 7 and 8? While the fact that he is a desperate attention seeking media whore is one possibility, so to is the possibility that this is IC and he is handing back the Immunity Cutlass to JPro before getting started on the challenge. If you watch the promo, Rupert is shifting his weight from foot to foot and appears to be laughing. Darrah is looking at Rupert while Ryno, Sandra and T are looking forward.

Therefore, I speculate that in caps 7/8 Rupert is engaging in a little bit of conversation with JPro just prior to the IC when JPro is asking for the Immunity Cutlass/Sword/ViciousPirateMachete back.

All that said, right now I still have this challenge pegged as RC in certain on-line survivor games, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyhow.

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10. "RC or IC?"
While I agree with you that Rupert is unlikely to win a "brake plates" challenge, we don't know at this point whether it is RC or IC.

I agree with Bebo that the preview screams "Rupert wins IC". They are targetting the MVP. Oh, the suspense, he wins the IC to live another ep. And could Mr411 be right about Rupert getting the boot ep9....? The preview is certainly setting up a story line accordingly.

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14. "RE: RC or IC?"
While I agree with you that Rupert is unlikely to win a "brake plates" challenge, we don't know at this point whether it is RC or IC.

The break the plates, tribal mask, coconut chop type challenge has usually been an IC. It's been used in the past to let us (and the other tribe members) see who's alligned with whom. (as in people ganging up on a particular person to take them out first.).

I'm right aren't I?


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16. "RE: RC or IC?"
>The break the plates, tribal mask,
>coconut chop type challenge has
>usually been an IC.
>It's been used in the
>past to let us (and
>the other tribe members) see
>who's alligned with whom. (as
>in people ganging up on
>a particular person to take
>them out first.).
>
>I'm right aren't I?

Yup. Not senile yet, Misto.

And this type challenge was used at the final 9 IC in both Marquesas and Amazon. A female, non-challenge threat has won both times because everyone guns for the strong guys.


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24. "RE: RC or IC?"
This challenge is pefect for Lill. The boys scouts have to earn a badge in archery. A little MB guidance to keep Lil moving along in the ranks...

If it is RC, it would fit the spoiler that an "odd couple" gets to enjoy a reward trip, probably w/ Burton as the chosen one..

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46. "RE: RC or IC?"
But scouts are supposed to be good at tying knots too. Heck, I can still tie sheepshanks in my sleep. But we all saw how good Lil was at tying knots when she lost the fishing hook, didn't we?

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47. "RE: RC or IC?"
Yes, but that was according to _Andrew_, who was not even there...

Anyhooo, moot point, as I have only just noticed they are using slingshots, not bow and arrows


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53. "RE: RC or IC?"
Her knots looked pretty sturdy when she was building the key-pole in the Outcasts win, I thought.
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3. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
is that the immunity thingy on Darrah?
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6. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Nope. It's her canteen. Here's a long shot. Note Sandra has the water jug here also, just like in the colour pic.

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17. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:50 PM (EST)

Looks like the ladies are talking together alot in the pics, though Sandra's comment to Christa could simply be hashing out some options instead of planning any serious coup at this point. These two are in a good position already, though I'm sure it did not escape their notice that there were no women in the running to win the last strength challenge. (Just my opinion : )

Edited to take out my canteen comment, Frisky beat me to it - that's what I get for walking away from the computer mid thought : )

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4. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Is pic 3 right? They have on their Drake buffs. I think I remember this pic from before.


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5. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Yes, they're showing a medley of Rupert's Classic TV Moments.

I agree with I Got Nutn, none of the guys will win this challenge. Either Darrah or Lillian will win (the older woman's second challenge win?).

Questions:

Are Sandra and Christa taking "the two females" off to discuss a get-rid-of-Burton or get-rid-of-Rupert plan?

Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag? Are they going to pick lemons?

Why does Christa's butt look so big?


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7. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Just to clarify which pics are recraps:

2 - You can see Trish in bottom right
3 - Old Drake challenge victory
4 - This has been used before
5 - Fishing during visit with the Morons
9-10-11 - fight night from last week
12-13 - Merged tribe arrives at Drake beach in last ep.

Yep, this is the reel from "Rupert, this is your life."

>Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag?

I thought it was a plastic water jug, but I think you're right. Remember Christa was strategizing with Rupert and Burton under the guise of lemon-picking, so this could be a cover.

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8. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:32 PM (EST)

Why does Christa's butt look so big?

The camera adds 10 pounds and she's got 4 of them on her!


--is substituting bashing for spoiling

edited to fix a stoopid mistake

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13. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Are Sandra and Christa taking "the two females" off to discuss a get-rid-of-Burton or get-rid-of-Rupert plan?

I think so, but why turn on him now, when they've got Morgan outnumbered? Why "cut their own throats" to make it even with Morgan members?

Why is Sandra carrying a plastic bag? Are they going to pick lemons?

Not sure, but not a pretty shot of her nether regions.

Why does Christa's butt look so big?

I don't know, but woweee.. I thought it was Lil, but then I saw the hair.

By the way, sooo excited about the lie, and I would think Darrah or Tijuana would be out of the running for this challenge win: I would think Drake would knock off their plates after Rhino's, and let Lil's stay.. Lil wins IMHO...



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22. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
could be a good call on Lil winning the challenge - she might also be fairly adept at using a slingshot through scouting?

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23. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
As adept as she is at tying a fisherman's knot?

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33. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
In the "Breaking Plates" Challenge, aren't the plates supposed to have names on them? How do they know which plates to break?
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43. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
In the past each player has a different color.
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40. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I never fired a slingshot in 13 years of scouting. I doubt Lill did either. I think this challenge favors Rupert who's been honing his aim on little fishes for the past three weeks.

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11. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Take a look at this pic, especially just above the Survivor banner. There's an area just over the logo that looks blurred out, and another area on Christa's uncharacteristically HUGE butt that looks blurred out:

In the following cap, the fuzziness around Christa's butt is gone, but it still appears over the logo. Because of this fuzz, I can't tell what Tijuana is carrying.

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15. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Here:

...in the circled area you can see the hilt of the Immunity Sword. Christa stole it from Burton/Rupert to cut down lemons!

Either that or since she's walking farther behind than than the other 3 women, she's plotting their demise in the jungle. She's going through meth withdrawls you know.


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12. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
LAST EDITED ON 11-07-03 AT 03:47 PM (EST)

Agreed Sandra and Christa are gonna want to keep T & D. They will attempt to realign. I think Sandra will be the biggest instigater in this as she is afraid of Burton and now that she has seen Rupert talking with Burton she knows her goose could be cooked. Save the women of Morgan while voting out the strong men in their tribe. Could Rupert possibly go before Ryan O.?

Edited: With Christa talking about getting rid of Rupert, this could be misdirection. Christa has been the one each time someone has tried to oust Rupert to tell him about it. I am having a hard time getting a read on Christa. During the show she seems to be 100% with Rupert, but somehow after the show and in vidcaps and such it seems that we are shown a little more.

Again, is it misdirection to let us think Christa and Sandra will plot against Rupert, or are they plotting to get rid of Burton, Jon, Ryan O. and Lil.

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19. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
This reeks of the OMG Betrayal episode, we saw Rupert, we saw Shawn blah blah blah and bye bye Trish.

Getting rid of Rupert has been a backstory since Episode 2. What I am interested in is who exactly is discussing who here.

We have Sandra telling Christa to hook the women and goodbye Burton.......

But then we have a suspicious confessional of Christa mentioning Rupert (when did Burton become safe here?) Is this confessional AFTER the women's coffee klatch?

We have Burton and Jon discussing the extinction of Rupert.

Ironically Rupert is NOWHERE during all this clandestine discussions when he is NORMALLY directly involved or involved by being told? Didn't we have a similar situation in the previews and only until the show we saw Rupert being told what is going on? Somehow I find it virtually impossible that Rupert is not there for any of this at all.

Rhino and Lillian completely not being incorporated in any of this either tells me something also regarding their opinion in all this or aren't we being shown this either. (color me confused and oh so very suspicious)

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20. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Or a combination of Rupert/Rhino/Lill are enjoying the reward...
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30. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Ironically Rupert is NOWHERE during all this clandestine discussions when he is NORMALLY directly involved or involved by being told? Didn't we have a similar situation in the previews and only until the show we saw Rupert being told what is going on? Somehow I find it virtually impossible that Rupert is not there for any of this at all.

Isn't there a teaser that suggests two people are on a reward trip. Perhaps Rupert is one of them.

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21. "Et Tu Christa"
Christa: We might be able to get rid of Rupert.

After listening to this it sounds like they picked her up in mid sentence.
Jon came to me and said, "We might be able to get rid of Rupert."

I don't think Rupert is in any danger this week. However, I think Jon may be trying to "Trish" Burton with his talk of getting rid of Rupert.

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25. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Gosh is Ryan even still in the tribe? The fact that MB apparently wants us to forget he even exists (note he was barely present in 7B) makes it completely obvious that whatever position jockeying is going to happen won't come into play until at least E9, after his inevitable pagonging.

The fact that we don't see Lillian likely means she's either still being a grouchy sourpuss or is completely left out of the loop in all of the strategizing going on. Possibly a combination of both.

And I wouldn't be quite so quick to assume that the plate breaking IC will be won by an irrelevant female. Keep in mind that when this challenge was done in the Amazon (as the E11 IC) the goal was to break your own plates. Jenna won, but she wasn't competing against any particularly athletic people except for Matthew, who wasn't trying. If the challenge is along those lines, Rupert has as good a chance as anyone.


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29. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
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Keep in mind that when this challenge was done in the Amazon (as the E11 IC) the goal was to break your own plates. Jenna won, but she wasn't competing against any particularly athletic people except for Matthew, who wasn't trying.

I remember the plate-smashing challenge (or its equivalent) as being the Ep 8 IC right before they got rid of Dave. Wasn't the EP 11 IC the shuffleboard IC that Jenna won? Or was it the "guess who said what" IC that Rob won?

Edited to say: now I remember, Rains, you're right, they had to break plates before taking the shuffleboard shots. In Ep 8 they were smashing masks.



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26. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Hey all...season long lurker...many thanks to you all for providing valuable insight into the show. (esp. BR, VS, KB, & Misto (who seems to be a hottie))

I agree with Nutin that we catch Christa mid-sentence. She probably is just stating a fact about what was presented to her. She seems to be too loyal to Rupert to betray him just yet.

As for them going into woods to pick lemons, cant they just take the two that Darrah has hidden in her shirt?!? (sorry, couldnt resist)

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27. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I'm glad somebody else sees the hotness that is Mistofleas...

(...and I'll admit that I like Darrah's lemons)

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28. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Stop it ya'll I'm gonna blush!

But thank you, you're both very sweet!


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Well, MF certainly won't do. I think Misto works perfectly for you, sweetums.

(And I don't mind being called BR, but I keep confusing myself with the Big Regret.)


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37. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Well, that would explain a lot... BrownRoach = BR = Big Regret, Mistofleas = MF = "M----F----"

We've wasted 5 huge threads on the two of you!!

Still don't see anybody claiming 'BL', so can that be me? I can be brutal, and fake being brilliant, and am ALWAYS amazing. Plus, you have about an equal shot at seeing me on S7 as you will this &%$#@ lie!!

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39. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
BR,

I am soooooo glad that I am not the only one that reads (BIG REGRET) every time I see BR!

I love it!

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36. "silly misto"
Come on now, it's just not right to call ya MF, now is it?


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MF?
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34. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Thanks, URang -- I'm actually surprised to see you only have 8 DAWS because I feel like I've seen that Lurch pic quite a bit recently. So get cracking and post some more.


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31. "caps 14 and 15"
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what's the deal with those? ryan grinning like an idiot with Rupert in the background? is that Christa's woody groom? will they finally let the general public in on the wedding next week in a ryano confessional?

and are those enough to fit Ryan with the OFG theory for next week's boot?

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50. "RE: caps 14 and 15"
>is that Christa's woody groom? will they finally
>let the general public in on the wedding next
>week in a ryano confessional?

No, that's not the groom. The groom was more like a board that was stuck in the ground with a face drawn on it.

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35. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Maybe the reason we don't see Lillian or Rupert in the strategizing is because they won the reward challenge? The unlikely couple maybe??


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38. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Well it is probably a no brainer that Tijuana and Darrah would both jump at a chance to save themselves and Sandra is giving that to them. While I think Christa will make the appropriate noises, she also had a nice walk with Burton and Rupert as well. One thing I do believe is that Christa will not turn on Rupert so I agree the confessional was a hatchet job. I think I am going to concentrate more that Sandra is enlisting the women to perhaps discuss getting rid of Burton. Sandra was the most vocal about Burton's return and frankly I saw negative interaction between the two really.

The question is then why doesn't Burton get the boot if we believe Ryan does; I'd suspect that T/D would jump at an option to boot Burton per Sandra therefore still keeping a former Morgan (Ryan) with them. Does Burton win IC. Totally possible. Ryan strikes me as the boot that has to be done because circumstances make it impossible to boot other targets. I believe Burton is the main target right now. Jon has been gunning for Rupert to go prior to this as he knows he can't win against him. He has a better shot of winning against Burton in his mind because Burton was a dead player so I assume he'd rather take Rupert out of contention first.

If Jon were to be the next to go, you can bet the farm that Rupert finds out Jon is playing on Burton but we don't believe Jon is going so therefore does Burton keep this nugget to himself? If so, how does Christa catch wind of it per the confessional (if it is chopped up) For Jon NOT to go, Rupert must be left in the dark somehow because Ryan and Rupert ALSO had a connection and Rupert could potentially enlist Ryan as another supplemental member.

My apologies, I am thinking out loud here as this is a very strange shakeup.

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41. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
VS, I am thinking this through as I am typing so I hope I don't ramble!

I would like to try and bring the info from The Early Show this morning with Andrew. This is in The Early Show thread as well. But, Andrew said that Rupert offered him a deal where Rupert would bring himself and his two and Andrew would bring his two and himself.

Well, this would form a six person alliance with 10 people left in the game. This would take Andrew no worse than sixth place.

Then in Rupert's voting confessional, Rupert says Andrew approached him too late and he is going home.

OK..to my point, If Ryan does go next...that means that Ryan and Darrah does not approach Rupert for the same deal (this would happen if Andrew didn't tell them about it but I can't see him not at least getting their opinions)! And after lastnight, knowing that a Morgan was targeted and they lost...they have to know they are on the short end of the stick. I think all the previews are setting up the boot of Rupert in episode 9! Not here.

It makes no sense for the Drake tribe to fall apart here...NONE! They can't afford to let the tribes be equal again!

BTW...THIS IS MY 100th POST! I know this may not be many for some of you but, I am so excited!

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42. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
>Andrew said that Rupert
>offered him a deal where
>Rupert would bring himself and
>his two and Andrew would
>bring his two and himself.

Yeah, I thought this was interesting and I think the problem was that Andrew didn't have a firm three to bring to the table. I think he could have delivered TJ, but Darrah and RyanO were too tight to split up and he was probably trying to figure out if he could ditch TJ without her knowing about it. My guess is that he never got this pulled together, but tried a last ditch deal with Rupert just to save his butt.

As you speculate above, if RyanO and Darrah don't try to make this deal on their own with Rupert, then RyanO is going home. I'm guessing they never knew this was an option and thought Andrew could bring Lill back into the fold. Actually, I'm certain RyanO never thought this was an option, but Darrah's already thinking about it. She knows Rupert likes his harem and would take another female into the group. After all, this is the guy whose favorite magazine is Playboy. Real clever.

This is probably the most compelling web preview I've seen, but I think the strategizing is long-term and won't come into play until the 20th.

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44. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
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There seems to be a discrepancy between what Andrew said in his interview about the Rupert deal, and what Rupert said during his vote.

Andrew said that Rupert got Lil and that negated the offer, but Rupert said he came to him last minute and said he did want it and it was too late. Very different views.


Here are the quotes:
http://www.survivornews.net/news.php?id=350
Q: Were you surprised Rupert voted for you when you were so gracious when he was with Morgan? I wish you had won!!
Andrew: Very cool and thank you. What you didn't see is that after the feast, Rupert and I had an alliance. There were three Morgans and three Drakes. A handful of minutes before we got into the boat to go to TC, Lil decided to jump ship and side with the Drake tribe. As soon as she did that, my alliance with Rupert disappeared. There was no reason for the Drakes to align with the Morgans, because with Lil, the Drakes had superior numbers. And to answer your question, yes, it hurt very much that Rupert voted for me.

From Yahoo Marcopolo's thread (thanks)
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/cgi-bin/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4372&forum=DCForumID2&omm=0
Rupert (votes Andrew): After the feast, I tried to offer you a deal. It would have got you to six easy, and maybe more. You three and my three. You tell me no. And you come back two minutes before this damn council and say, "yeah it's a deal." I can't change everything after that. Your own team starting turning on you after that. You're gone man, I'm sorry.


Very different. Andrew seems to be very bitter, just not showing it. He must really dislike what happened to him. He just keeps saying how wondering Morgan was, even Osten, when the whole world sees it so differently. Even said that Drake was a Club Med while they were starving. Well, that's what you get when you go looking for food!

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45. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Congrats on your 100th post volsfan

Rupert is complete misdirection here just as he has been in some other episodes but I'm sure at some point the real coup for Rupert will try to happen.

I guess I am somewhat confused by all the different hubub and how it contradicts each other. Christa mentions Rupert but Sandra mentions Burton. Jon/Burton mention Rupert and Rupert is nowhere to be found during all of this. Burton may be playing Jon by discussing Rupert OR Burton has no problem taking Rupert out.

T/D/R are twisting in the wind and any of them will grab a rope if offered.

Interject rant of how STUPID Drake is to discuss booting their own right now (rant over) Lillian seems the safest of them all right now!

My only conclusion at this point because I already committed to Ryan last week is that he was not invited by the women, not talked to by the men and this coup is making us twist in the wind until next week as we have all surmised and then the real games begin.

For Burton to swear to his outcasts he would never lie to them
Then discusses with R/C about if they continue to lie, Morgan is going to take over
and then further mention that this game is about deceipt is only telling me that Drake will continue to lie to each other including Burton and all this stupid lying is going to cause at least one Morgan to gain a foothold somewhere.

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48. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
You know Veruca, you are right, Rupert is MIA from alot of the discussions, usually he is hanging around. I wonder if all the old Rupert footage was put in the promos to cover for the fact that Rupert is missing a good deal of the time due to enjoying part of the reward challenge?

Could explain why Rupert is so hostile to Jon, surely Jon would not be mouthing off if Rup was in the vicinity?

Rupert and almost anyone would make an odd couple. If Lil won, I could see Burton suggesting to her to take Rupert to ingratiate her in the Drake alliance.

I know, I know, reading too much into it...

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51. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
>You know Veruca, you are right, Rupert is
>MIA from alot of the discussions, usually he
>is hanging around. I wonder if all the old
>Rupert footage was put in the promos to cover for
>the fact that Rupert is missing a good deal of
>the time due to enjoying part of the reward challenge?

While I agree that these folks have shown themselves to not be the smartest players in the world...

I don't think Rupert will win an individual reward challenge if the reward keeps him away from the tribe. He's got to know how big of a threat he is to everyone, and he would want to hang around to keep everyone from strategizing against him *too* much...

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49. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
>Interject rant of how STUPID Drake is to discuss booting their own right now (rant over) Lillian seems the safest of them all right now!


VS, we forget that (Dave excepted) these people aren't rocket scientists. They don't ever seem to use any common sense or knowledge of what has happened in previous games.

As was discussed in several places last week, the GT returnees have a lot of power in their group of 2. While most people will now assume that Burton is Drake and Lil is the Morgan traitor, I believe that are a fairly firm voting block and at this point in the game can swing the vote to suit them - and get an Outcast much closer to the million bucks.

I agree that Lil is safe, she would definitely realign back with Morgan to save Burton (i.e. if she hears that Burton goes, she and Burton vote with D/R/T).

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52. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
LP - I know, I know re: common sense (sigh) I supppoooose in fairness to them if I were out there with a strategy that I was going to employ, BEING in the game may just make your emotions, etc. run amok (insert grrrrr anyway)

The theme appears to be a big revenge motif. Lil and Burton for sure are the ONLY two who I believe have a true meeting of the minds. There is not one person or "group" in that game who has the same thought pattern and reason for being there than these two. They have a common bond; they were kicked off by these people and right now there is nothing that convinces me that THEIR "alliance" of "revenge" is going to change. Right now I think Burton's only truth is to the outcasts and Lillian's only belief is that Burton will be honest with her. The rest of them, however, will proceed with the other themes of piracy "lie, cheat, steal"

I do not believe Christa's comments are her comments and I do believe Sandra is thinking of Burton per her talk with Christa which makes sense due to her Sandra's apprehension about Burton returning. Christa either learned from someone that there was talk about Rupert or she overheard it somehow. Rupert obviously does NOT know that Jon is pulling his "stuff" again because Jon would be going this episode OR Jon won the IC somehow because I think even Rupert would forego booting a former Morgan if he learned that Jon is plotting against him but I wonder if Christa did learn of this why Rupert wouldn't know which tells me he does know and Jon wins the IC OR Christa withheld this from him for safekeeping OR someone talked him out of booting Jon.

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54. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Rupert is gone for about 5 hours a day fishing for his tribe. While he does that everyone is getting closer and plotting - against him.

Rupert did want to control the food production, just so that he would be found valuable. He brought that up to Jon when he confronted him about voting him out.

Others voted out said that Rupert wasn't very friendly, that he didn't socialize very much. Key to being #1 is to be liked.

Rupert's treatening Jon and his outbursts maybe well staged, but they seem to me a bit egotistical. Everyone has a right to vote for who they want.

Rupert telling Jon he was going to kill him was a turn off, Jon's not going to forget that and neither is anyone else who was in earshot.

Me thinks Rupert has become a bit too full of himself. And when that happens it blinds them to what's going on around them. Instead of thinking he's in control - he's actually lost control of the players and the game.

That being said I like the guy and probably will be bored to death once he leaves.


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56. "How could it possibly HELP?"
We have Tijuana saying: "If one of the guys get hurt..."

What possible help could this be to Tijuana and ANY possible alliance?

If she has the votes on her side, her alliance could vote anyone off.

If she doesn't have the votes on her side, I don't see how "getting hurt" could possibly help any alliance she's in.

I don't see how a player "getting hurt" will influence the voting with the POSSIBLE exception of drawing votes to themselves and what good is THAT?

What scenario could Tijuana imagine would help her alliance if one of them acted hurt?

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57. "RE: How could it possibly HELP?"
Maybe she's talking about Rupert and Burton and says, "The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys gets hurt...
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61. "quote - unquote "gets hurt""
When T makes her comment I thought she was making little quote marks in the air in conjunction with "gets hurt" which I would take to mean the one who "gets hurt" isn't REALLY hurt, they are faking it.

So it wouldn't make sense to me to say:

"The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys gets hurt... "

which, if I understand the "air quote marks" would be read as:
"The only way any of the rest of us will win an immunity challenge is... if one of the guys "FAKES" getting hurt..."

It doesn't add up to me.

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58. "Sunday Football Promo"
We get a little more help from one of the football promos.

in this cap:

it looks like Rupert has the "Sword of Immunity" at his waist.

In this cap:

we see Rupert holding an answer square. So evidently they have to answer questions correctly in order to get a shot at the plates.

So...
It would appear that this is the IC, but it involves more that just ability with a wrist-rocket. It is also a mental challenge. It seems a little soon to be asking questions about each other, so it is probably Pearl Island general info. Like are pelicans good eats?

This gets me no closer to who wins. I'll leave that question to sharper minds than my own.

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59. "RE: Sunday Football Promo"
It looks like it might be a little small to be the Immunity Sword.

When Jeff was standing next to it at the beginning of the keel hauling challenge it seemed to extend approximately from his jawline to below his waist. When Burton put it on, it extended from just above one shoulder to beyond the opposite hip.

I suppose the sword could be at an angle towards or away from the camera on Ruperts hip, but I think it may just be a crease in his moo moo.

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60. "Plates challenge"
This reminds me of the PARANG SWING (coconut/rope) Immunity challenge S4, the Snuff it(dousing torches) S5 IC, or the FACE OFF (Mask smash) in S6. These were all Immunity Challenges.

It looks like each survivor has a mast with a crows nest at the top. Along the mast are colored plates, I can see 3 in the above pictures.
Previous vidcaps show Rupert aiming with a slingshot, and a blue dish breaking.

Given that Rupert has an "answer box" they must have to answer question to gain a shot at the plates. It appears that they have to break the 3 plates to release the ties attached to each plate. And assumingly when all 3 plates are broken and the 3 attached ropes are free, something is released from the crows nest atop the mast.

It seems to me that all of these types of challenges in past seasons have been for IC.

The only difference might be seeing that Rupert has a light blue answer box, and is apparently shooting at a light blue plate, maybe this challenge is to break their own plates, and thus may be a reward challenge. But I think the odds point towards an immunity challenge, as in previous seasons.

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62. "RE: Plates challenge"
Just throwing this out here. Sandra's hair style in the first shot appears to be up in a bun with her buff

This shot of Rupert appears to be holding a quiz cube

This shot of Rupert, etc. from the slingshots has Sandra there but her hair appears down

Here is another shot of the slingshot challenge and Sandra's hairstyle just seems different from the first arrival shot

I'm wondering then if Rupert has his hair tied in this episode and the RC and the IC are a quiz and a slingshot challenge.

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63. "RE: Plates challenge"
I can't find a cap of the II, but doesn't it have a shoulder strap? If the first cap is a challenge arrival shot, Rupert does not have it on. I think that IS the II at his right side in the last cap though, so you'd be right that the caps are from two different challenges.

Still, they've had to answer questions correctly for this type of challenge before -- the coconut chop in S4; the snuff the flame challenge in S5; the smash the mask challenge in S6.



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64. "RE: Plates challenge"
There are some problems with these caps entirely which I'm now going to contradict myself.

Sandra's hair looks different but Rupert's shirt is different as well. I have a problem with Rupert not having the sword over his shoulder either and while I know some think it is around his waist I'm not sure.

When all is said and done we do have plate smashing and we do have a cube, Rupert's shirt is different in the cube shot but all the other shots his shirt is the same. I think I am going to step away from the caps for a moment

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65. "RE: Plates challenge"

Does this make you feel better about Rupert's shirt?
They've done the mirror thing before. Screws with your head.

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66. "RE: Plates challenge"

But why is the white seam showing here?

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68. "RE: Plates challenge"
Good eye. Maybe it's not mirrored and he just has it on wrong side out. My head hurts!

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109. "RE: Plates challenge"
Maybe Rupert didn't have time to change between the RC (plate smashing) which he wins, and the IC (oh, I'll just guess that Lillian or Burton win that onem it doesn't matter, Ryan's going anyway), so he just dabbed off the grease stains at the hotel, and then turned his shirt inside out (that's what I'd do if I was getting much needed sleep in an air conditioned hotel)...?

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67. "RE: Plates challenge"
Great observations!

Also note that Sandra's sleeve is down in the first and last pic, but it's rolled up in third. More evidence to support the theory that these caps are from two different challenges.

I'm wondering if the order in which the contestants are standing in the last pic is at all significant? At first glance it looks like ex-Morgan on the left (minus Burton who is on his way somewhere) and ex-Drake on the right, but at a second glance, from L-R we have what looks like three groups. (A quite bearded) Burton on his own, walking (towards the group?), then Jon, Rhino, Lil and TJ, then on the right we have Darrah, Christa, Sandra & Rupert.

Another way to look at it is all the women are standing next to each other and they’re book-ended by the two strongest.

Burton looks dejected (perhaps he was just eliminated), and Rupert and Sandra look somewhat satisfied.

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69. "RE: Plates challenge"
If I haven't welcomed you yet Emily, welcome

Actually I don't think Burton looks dejected there though and with the challenge items behind them, I actually am wondering is it possible that Burton and not Rupert just gave Jeff the sword back? It would be just like Rupert to give it to Burton before going there since Burton really did win it. I don't know these people from Adam but it just seems like such a Rupertesque type of thing to do. Maybe Burton is stepping back in line because he got rid of the IS?

As far as Sandra's sleeve (nice eye there Emily) it is down where the Survivors are standing and rolled up in the shot of her, Darrah, etc. behind Rupert. She may have rolled up her sleeves to compete in this challenge (maybe because they are using the slingshots and it is easier for her to raise her shoulders up without the sleeves there) but the sleeves are down in that "arrival" shot with R/C/S but I think that shot of Rupert holding that block is completely separate from the other ones

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70. "RE: Plates challenge"
I think they all just walked in from the left side of the frame, Rupert first, then Sandra, etc. Burton as the last to enter just hasn't reached his spot yet in the cap.

I do think it's interesting that we still see Rupert, Sandra and Christa together, and next to them are Darrah and Tijuana. Is this after the excursion into the woods the four ladies went on?


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71. "RE: Plates challenge"
Well if they did just walk in, I guess I'm having trouble that the item at Rupert's waist is the same thing that was strapped across Burton's chest unless Rupert has it on under the shirt, then puts the shirt back on inside out explaining the seams. Or the IC is the quiz and the slingshots are the reward?
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72. "RE: Plates challenge"
Or the IC
>is the quiz and the
>slingshots are the reward?

VS, I think that's much more likely.

This shot of Rupert appears to be him still competing while Ryan and company look on (probably already eliminated). But notice that we still see something hanging from his waist. It can't be the II if this is mid challenge, because he would have returned it already, so the thing at his waist upon arrival is probably the thing that holds up his skirt...


The quiz cube challenge has been used for Immunity before. One example is the torch snuffing IC where answer cubes were used and Penny turned on Jake...



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73. "RE: Plates challenge"
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Yes that brown doo hicky thingie was bugging me as well

Now his tank top seams make me feel better. I do wonder if Rupert's winning the slingshots could explain why I feel like saying Where's Waldo regarding Rupert during the women scenes, the Jon and Burton scenes etc. Should he win (and as pointed out to me by Bebo and BR) and there is an overnight stay that a male won at the hotel, could this by why we have no clear Rupert here except for recycled shots and just challenge caps?

The only issue I have on the IC/RC debate though is there is nothing showing us one way or another. Either could be the immunity challenge because we did not see an arrival shot at the quiz challenge and the arrival shot at the slingshot challenge could be a cap of them falling in line to begin the challenge and the sword has been given back. But I'm open to ALL suggestions

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74. "RE: Plates challenge"
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I'm liking the slingshots as the RC now too.

We have Rupert, Lillian, and Ryan O. missing from all the "plotting" scenes. I could see Rupert winning this challenge. Maybe he takes Lillian on the reward? That would be an unlikely couple -- and I can see Rupert cranking up the AC at the hotel as was reported.

Perhaps Burton gets miffed after having given Rupert immunity, and starts talking to Jon about voting him off. Meanwhile Sandra and Christa start talking to Tijuana and Darrah about Burton...but where is Ryan O. in all this?

I think all these caps can be from the same challenge. I don't see the issue with the seams -- are you talking about the edging on Rupert's tank straps? I can see it in all the caps.



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75. "RE: Plates challenge"
I'm speculating that the thing at Rupert's hip is a cheesy pirate pilot that came with the sea mail announcing the challenge. Since they wind up shooting slingshots in the challenge it would make sense for them to get a hand-held firearm with the love poem (kind of like getting a cannon ball with the sea mail related to the cannon-shooting challenge). Rupert strikes me as the kind of guy who would love to strap on a pistol when heading to a challenge.

Also, unrelated to the thing on his waist, but related to the challenge - why would they build those 'masts' with crows nests at the top of they're only being used for target practice. I would speculate that at some point those crows nests are going to come into play (maybe in another challenge) for an endurance challenge (how long can you stay in the nest before passing out and falling to the sand below?). The only problem I see with this is that a fall could actually hurt someone. Maybe they'll move the masts into the water. I'm rambling now.

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76. "Nests on top..."
My thought when looking at them is, maybe the plates provide enough counter balance to keep the nests from toppling. When the weight of the plates is gone (because the plates have been broken), the nests topple, and... the player is out, or something else?
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81. "RE: Nests on top..."
I'm thinking along the same lines. The "plates" are spread apart as "lower", "middle" and "upper". The picture with the blue plate has a blue ribbon attached to it (towards the right) and a black metal thing that looks similar to the "target" you need to hit in a dunking machine. So, I postulate that the targets must all three be hit which then topples the crows nest and....what? Well bear with me here and look at this picture:

I've circled in red, what I think are little piles of wood.
Perhaps the crows nests are filled with water and the goal is to put out the fire below. Or similar to the challenge in Africa(?) where they had to slingshot to shoot out sand to cover the idols. I'm assuming in either case the goal is to keep your fire burning (or uncovered) and put out/cover the other peoples.

I do think this is the IC though. They're coming in single file and the looks on their faces are just a little too solemn for a reward challenge. The pictures where Rupert is laughing would more indicate a reward challenge to me. I'll of course have to look at them again to see if laughing and hair match. If they don't I'm resigned to go back to the drawing board with my speculation.


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77. "RE: Plates challenge"
I think that the crows nest are really just to stay with the pirate theme. MB probably found out that some pirates really did this find of target practice on ships. There's no way in my mind that anyone will get into those things; the posts just aren't sturdy enough to support Burton/Rupert.

The other possibility is that the plates are holding counterweights and that when all three are broken, the basket at the top falls over releasing sand or something to show that the person is out of the game. To support this idea, if you look at the cap when the plate is broken, there is a lot of extra stuff on the post: ribbons and a black thingy floating to the right.

Anyway, I agree with Big Regret, er, I mean, BR, err, BrownRoach that all challenge caps are the same challenge, that being the IC. In all the three strikes and you're out challenges, you needed to do something (like answering questions) to merit being able to shoot down one of your opponents.

I don't think we've seen any pics of the RC unless as postulated by some, the questions and slingshots are two different challenges.


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78. "RE: Plates challenge"
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BR my comments about his tank top and the seam is that in the picture of his holding the cube the red strap has white edging and is on the opposite side of the other pictures where there is no white edging which means he may have turned the shirt inside out. My only point to that is that the picture of the cube is different as I was trying to differentiate the two challenges b/c I believe? there was a post prior to my post that that the question boxes were part of the slingshot challenge.

ETA I don't think this was constructed solely for decorative purposes. I'm looking at the succession of these caps and I think this challenge has more to it than simply hit your mark




They are built like a tower and there is a brown lever there with the black thing (almost looks like a torch in a way) I think somehow hitting which plate triggers something to do something else but I haven't gotten that far yet.

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79. "RE: Plates challenge"
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Here are some visuals

The red is on different shoulders. At first I thought it was a mirrored image, but I think VS is right that the shirt is inside out in the pic on the bottom. Another reason would be that the letter in the top pic is a B or D and that would look wrong if the image was mirrored.
So the two images must be from different challenges, unless Rupert is making wardrobe changes in mid-challenge.


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83. "RE: Plates challenge"
The red is on the left side of Rupert's tank, front to back. You can see that in these caps of him jumping off the boat in Ep 1, which are not reversed.

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If he just turned the shirt inside out the red would still be on the left strap. So he might have the shirt on backwards in the slingshot caps. Or backwards AND inside-out.


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89. "RE: Plates challenge"
>LAST EDITED ON 11-10-03
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>


OK, I'm probably insane for even speaking this out loud.

The reward challenge is a night away at a resort. Presumably, the first thing they all would do is shower with real hot water and towels and such.

So look at these two photos. Rupert's hair is sweaty and stringy in one, and, uh, slightly less stringy and sweaty in the other. In general, he just looks cleaner.

We know they are from different moments because his shirt is inside out in the second photo.

Could it be that Rupert won the RC with the answer cube, enjoys the reward, and then shows up at IC with his shirt inside out? That would make the plate smash the IC.

Also, something the frame grabs don't show:
When the plate breaks, it frees the ribbon and that allows the brown lever behind the plate to swing down and to the left. My assumption here is that you break all three plates, freeing all three levers, and causing the crow's nest to dump water or sand or Outkast body parts onto the woodpile.

That black iron thing in the background on the plate shot is a counterweight used to balance the heavy weight tilting above. The ribbon alone won't hold it, so it must be counterweighted in some manner so that the ribbon is the straw that breaks the camel's back.


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94. "RE: Plates challenge"
Wow Tj, that's a great spoiler!!!

Seriously, his hair looks like it was washed that day. It's not greasy, in fact, it's a little poofy. I haven't seen rupert's hair look like this before.

Yeah, Rupert totally wins RC!

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108. "RE: Plates challenge"
great theory Joisey, only I think you have it backwards. Rupert's hair looks clean holding the answer cube (Immunity Challenge) and my gut says that the plates challenge is the RC.

thanks for playing.

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106. "I've been obsessing about this all freakin' day!"
It's 11 pm here, so I do mean ALL FREAKIN' DAY!

Anyway, I do think you're right that the plate breaking allows the lever to swing, and that the thing on the other end of the lever looks suspiciously like a torch. I combined that with Madame Fleas' observation of piles of wood that look like they're taylor made for a bon fire, and I came up with this challenge:

Part 1: Castaways must build a fire at the base of their masts.
Part 2: That fire catches the torch-lever at the bottom of the mast (which is not all THAT low).
Part 3: Castaways must break the plates with sling shots. Breaking the bottom plate moves that torch-lever so that it lights the 2nd torch-lever, and so on. When all 3 torch-levers have been triggered, the top torch-lever lights the nest on top.

Of course, my darling husband was quick to point out that this would be a tough one to judge. Previous "light this on fire" challenges have been objective. Burn through this string, and when the string breaks, you win. This would be a lot more subjective, as our favorite JP would have to determine the exact moment the nest caught on fire (unless there's more to it than that). And, I'll be the first to admit that there seems to be too much room for failure in my theory. What happens if a torch burns out before the next plate is broken?

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107. "RE: I've been obsessing about this all freakin' day!"
Not a bad theory udg. how 'bout if I add this little bit to patch up the objectivity part. Fire is lit at same time for each survivor by crew. If the fire makes it to the nest, you are out. but if you manage to break your three plates, you release the water that's in the basket, snuffing out your fire. First person to snuff their own fire, wins. That would be fairly objective?

That said, I'm not so sure that the challenge would be that convoluted.



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80. "RE: Plates challenge"
Like your new sig-pic, Aethelstan. JSlice is da bomb!

I would agree this should be IC IF you are trying to take your opponents out of contention, but I don't think that is the case here. Rupert is holding a turquoise cube and aiming at a turquoise plate; I think you smash your own plates to win.

Add to that the fact that the II is nowhere in sight -- it's not that thing hanging at Rupert's side, after all -- and I lean toward this being RC.


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82. "RE: Plates challenge"
IGotNutn's got something, I think, with those pics. And you bring up good points, too, BR. It does look like the shirt is inside out.

I feel like I'm being persuaded..... But only one pic for the question challenge? I suppose it's kind of boring...


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Interesting Lineup - and also look at how close they stand next to each other:

Starting from right to left, cause I just had Chinese food:
Rupert - Sandra - Christa and ...Darrah!
with Sandra standing very close to Rupert. To me, it seems that Sandra is just as close to Rupert, as Christa is.

then a rather BIG gap followed by:
Ti - Lil - Ryan - Jon - Burton with Lil standing at attention (looks like she's about the Salute!) Ti has her hands clasped and her head down. Feeling guilty perhaps that she has an alliance that doesn't include Darrah?

It doesn't bod (sp)well that Rupert is alone on the other end away from the other guys.

Does this indicate that new alliances have formed already?


That being said, this challenge looks fun. and MF's observations (good eyes) seem to be right on target, pun intended.

The most unlikely couple? Rupert and Jon.


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85. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I think the most interesting placement is Jon. Smack dab between RyanO and Burton. Has Jon's plotting been revealed? With Christa knowing of the plot, I think it may be safe to assume Rupert knows as well. Even if Darrah's placement is significant, that still leaves Rupert down 5 to 4. Unless T is on the fence regarding the all-girl alliance. I think Rupert needs immunity.

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87. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Everyone is speculating about why Rupert and Burton are not together...but the bigger question is Darrah and Ryan O. He was holding her hand at the last TC for Morgan and now does not even stand next to her in the challenge.

I can see Burton and Rupert standing on opposite sides as you do nto want to reveal your alliances and having two strong guys in an obvious alliance would put targets on both of them.

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88. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Not that I take anything away from the positioning of how people sit or stand together because there are definite indicators there (although I noticed that more in the general living of camp as opposed to the challenges but I never really paid attention to lineup in challenges)

This shows them arriving presumably to the challenge

and that is the order they are standing in the shot of all of them so it could be that they walked in that way and just fell in line (?)

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90. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
"and that is the order they are standing in the shot of all of them so it could be that they walked in that way and just fell in line (?)"

I agree with VS. I was going to type this, but saw hers first. Where they are standing seems to have a lot less meaning than WHO they target in the challenge.

We still dont' know if it is a "kill your enemy's plate challenge" or a "take your own plates out" challenge. But it's usually at this stage that alliances tend to become blatantly obvious judging from the previous survivors. Remember the celebrations at the rope chopping challenge that led to the new alliance in S5?

I wonder if the current survivors have learned to hide their tracks better.

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91. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
I agree that for the sake of the challenge its not how they are lined up but whose plate they knock out (if they have to knock someone's out).

That will show us a LOT. However, for the sake of alliances, one of the past winners - believe it to be Tina - gave advice on looking for signs of allances as to who sits where and stands next to who at challenes etc.

There are blatant alliances, which might stand out with this challenge and then there are the secret alliances, which may not be so discernable - not even by studying who sits next to who.

If someone totally misses the plates during the challenge we will have no way of knowing if this signifys a bad aim or a deliberate miss. In either case if we compare where they stand with who they hit, we might get an idea (but might not) of who's alligned with who.

Its fun but its not an exact science.

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98. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Is this the basic timeline that is happening during the plate smashing challenge then?

They enter the challenge area, with Rupert in the lead followed by Sandra and Christa, all of whom are looking fairly serious. Rupert's white seam is showing, red portion of shirt is on right shoulder. Sandra's sleeves are down.

Then they line up. Rupert, Sandra and Christa being the first ones in and Jon and Burton bringing up the tail end, being the last to line up. Sandra's sleeves are still down. Rupert has red on right shoulder and I think his white seam is showing but am not certain. There is no Immunity Cutlass in sight and this is when JeffP would normally take the IC back, therefore this is RC. Maybe, probably.

Then the pics 16-18 of Rupert firing slingshot with Jon's (or Ryan's) elbow showing. His shirt is consistent with the other pics, as is his hair and hair tie.

Then pics 7&8 of Rupert with Sandra, Darrah, Tijuana and Ryan crowded behind him. Sandra's sleeves are now rolled up. Rupert's shirt placement and white tie in hair are consistent with other shots of the smashing plates challenge.

Given the makeup of the group behind Rupert in those pics, I think it would make more sense that these are the people that have been eliminated from the challenge rather than those still in it because I can't imagine those 3 Morgans all outlasting those missing from the pic. But, if that is so, why wouldn't they be able to spread out to watch the rest of the challenge easier? Also, the people missing from those pics seem to be an unlikely final 4 in that sort of challenge where I would expect the Morgan's to target Jon based on their TC voting. So, I'm conflicted on what those pics mean.

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92. "Pic 3, 12 and 13."
LAST EDITED ON 11-11-03 AT 03:09 PM (EST)

there's a lot of hugging going on.

Jon wins RC and takes Christa to go with him and so in pics 12 and 13 you see them after they have come back from their night away at the hotel.
Jon is hugging Tijuana and Christa is hugging Ryan. Also, their hair looks remarkably clean. Jon's especially, not matted or scraggly at all. It looks clean in later pics too. (of course, it could be that morgan was allowed to bring the shower/shampoo to balboa but i don't think so).

So, I think the unlikely pair to go to the resort are Jon and Christa. (Jon secretly hopes that he may have a chance with her?)

Edited to say: Oops! I just went back and saw Frisky's post that pics 3, 12 and 13 are recap pics. Oh well, I thought I had something there.


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93. "RE: Pic 3, 12 and 13."
Too bad they are recap pics, you gotta admit, this WOULD make a great unlikely couple though! Ah, the joy of putting up with his mouth one on one for hours on end and sharing a hotel room, wahoo! (acckkkk)

You know, it is still bugging me that the women seem to be so clicky all of a sudden. Could it be that Rupert wins and takes Rhino, causing D/T and S/C both to suddenly focus on Rupert and wonder how they are ever going to get to the top?

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95. "RE: Pic 3, 12 and 13."
I don't think necessarily with what has been given to us that Sandra and Christa ARE focusing on Rupert. If Ryan is the natural boot in the order that has been discussed by Rupert and his alliance and it is a foregone conclusion he is next, Sandra and Christa (or Sandra I should say) may be discussing what they should do after Ryan is gone. Should we boot Burton and keep the girls? I think it is a natural presumption that after Ryan, the Morgan pagonging would continue so Sandra is perhaps discussing what could they could do instead. Sandra has been very wary of Burton's return and she was not part of the walk with B/R/C and I think Burton scares the pants off her.

The Christa confessional? Spank me and call me stupid, I will welcome it gladly if she is in anyway discussing an intention involving herself to boot Rupert. I just don't see it and there really has been no indication (for me) involving Christa that she would turn on him. The only nibble I saw was I believe in stuff Trish said but I think her comments were bogus and misguided as a whole but that is just my take on all the interviews/chats.

Jon and Burton are the ones who are mentioning Rupert (or should I say Burton) Again, I get so wary of these blurbs. What context is Burton saying this? Did Jon say something first? Who knows but usually if we hear the plan, it ain't happening.

Since we've come to the non surprising conclusion that Ryan is the most logical boot anyway, this episode is only important in seeing any shifts happen because T/D are on an outside, Jon is on an outside, B/L are on an outside, etc. There are quite a few people who are vulnerable because there are Morgans, Drakes, Balboas, Ghosts and Hangers.

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96. "I agree"
Is there any point in stating that I agree?
I dunno, but I could use the DAW rating boost.
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103. "*LOL*"
psst for supremo DAW boost action, go to the Off-Topic forum


- still part of the "Keep OT Busy" campaign

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97. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
It's the headstock and upper neck of an upside-down guitar, for what it's worth:

Look closely and you can see a glint of wire below the headstock; it's common to see the excess string wound up in a loop instead of cut off cleanly.

Too bad it doesn't tell us a damn thing about the challenge.

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99. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
While I'm a big proponent on past challenge history, I think I will go with the IC being the quiz this time.

Rupert is wearing some object that is not the IS so if he were to wear the sword to the immunity challenge, why would he have this object strapped to his waist as well. The way the IS lays, it seems that it would get in the way.

Rupert and Burton are major challenge contenders, if you can't "fix" the winner, you fix the challenge. A quiz is pretty much an equal opportunity challenge

Since the "major" purpose of these types of challenges is to bring out to the open who is zapping who and who are in tighter alliances, this is not as necessarily integral at this period of time due to the dynamics of the ghosts returning and the merger. There are so many branches coming from Balboa that I don't necessarily believe the vulnerable people need to "see" how vulnerable they are. There are actually more vulnerable people than safe people here and they know it.

The only videocap I saw with Rupert's tank top looking different was the cube one so I am going with that is a separate challenge IMO

If the overnight stay IS this reward and a male wins, I'm more inclined to believe people like Rupert or Burton would win this knowing a male wins rather than the quiz where a male winning is not a lock.

(Kisses to MF and major props to IC)

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102. "RE: Episode 8 Web Promo"
Look at you in your snazzy new sig pic Veruca! Very nice.

IceCat does rock doesn't he?


--is happy she was able to help

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100. "just swooped in"
to pick up my 100...thank you very much and have a nice day


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101. "Okay..."
...now that I got that swoop out of the way

I, like some others, think the cube and plate-smashing are different challenges. There is no explanation for Rupert's tank top having visible white stitching in the cube picture and not the others. There have also, if memory serves correctly, been question/answer challenges and "smashing" challenges that were challenges in and of themselves. Outback saw the plate smashing challenge (won by Colby, I believe) that was just slingshots and plates and the goal was to have your plates NOT smashed (so you smash others). Outback also saw the question and answer game where it was just about answering questions about the region (I remember this one because ALicia "won" it for Kucha). I'm sure there are others.

Also, I am thinking maybe the plate smashing challenge would be one that would require them to smash the plates of others. I believe the times when similar challenges (smashing or even the shuffleboard challenge) took place, you had to answer questions (or do some other sort of thing to get a certain number of "chances" to succeed) only when the challenge involved doing something to YOUR OWN plates (or whatever). If it's about knocking out or removing someone else, the challenge doesn't involve anything else except some strategy and aim.


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104. "Anyone else notice?"
That they are adding old pictures to their "new" promo pictures?

Examples:

They added the hugging picture.. in it you will see that it is Andrew hugging Christa (This is from when they first got to their new home). At least I am convinced it is, going by the hair and the shorts. Also, Christa still has on her blue buff as a top, would be a bit hard for her to have left it behind.

The one they show Rupert getting hugged by Jon, it's from a different older event. They are still wearing their blue buffs.

One also shows Rupert holding up the Immunity Pole thing, which they no longer use.

In most of the pictures, they make it look like Rupert is going to rock and roll this week once again. I for one am fearful...GO RUPERT!!! but not bye bye.

P.S. I have lurked long enough, I had to finally join up and put in my 2 cents.

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105. "RE: Anyone else notice?"
Welcome to the fun Maebe!

They've actually been using past stuff quite a bit this season. I guess MB thinks we're not paying attention or something. *cough*dork*cough*

Or

He thinks the average viewer Joe is starting TO pay attention to the preview clips and he's trying to trip them up.
*cough*dork*cough*


--tells maebe to have some fun with us

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