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"Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion"
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09-21-03, 02:46 PM (EST)
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77. "Random thoughts..." |
Oh boy...I've always been a what if-er, so I've been pondering the various possibilities of the BL, BT, and BR (I am quite confident that they are three totally separate issues based upon the quotes I've seen).Here are my initial thoughts: BL 1. while I agree that the wording is iffy, I do think the lie is told by Jon. I definitely believe it's something about him and not someone else. My first thoughts were that it was a lie from his application, a lie that could have gone unnoticed (not sure how much "checking" they do at CBS since beforehand to verify info) which would result in no one knowing that it was a lie until sometime during the show (a confessional, maybe even some "oops" on his part in not keeping up with the lie. It would seem that this lie would have to be something that could be deemed as beneficial in the game (otherwise, what's the point). I am thinking maybe this lie is a totally concocted "Jon Dalton" character...maybe he's not even Jon Dalton (well, the Jon Dalton he says he is anyway) - Survivor's first stolen identity? bwaaaaahaaaaa. 2. supposing the lie could belong to anyone, my first thoughts were a lie about some need for the money (pulling on the heartstrings of the teammates) or a lie about some accomplishment (something big) that would have your tribe in awe of you. BT 1. I think the twist relates to voting in some way...I don't think they would really "resurrect" a player, but something might happen (a tie vote) in which the player who loses the tiebreak comes back if the other person involved in the tie break is injured shortly after TC...I don't see any way that someone would be resurrected beyond one TC...that would just be a whole different game and totally unsurvivor-like...once your torch is snuffed, you are history. I'm thinking maybe some new twist to voting post-merge. Maybe there is "team" immunity and you must chose another player to give immunity to in addition to yourself? It has to be something big in order for people to be talking about it a year from now (read that in some quote, somewhere...) - I suppose there are a million possible twists, but I'm still trying to figure out something that would both maintain the history of survivor (no resurrected players) AND tie in a pirate theme. Haven't figured that out yet... Crap! I just saw an article that leads me to believe the twist may in fact be a resurrection. UGH! Here is the link and quote: The Survivor host told fans to expect even more twists and turns for the contestants on the road to the grand prize, and even a few strategic mistakes. "I think somebody did something they're going to regret for a long time," he said. "And expect a twist midway through that's either going to have the audience excited or really angry."
http://www.wltx.com/fyi/fyi.asp?storyid=13456 I suppose depending upon how the resurrection is done, it might not be THAT big of a disappointment. I still think it's totally NOT survivor-like to have any possibility of returning to the game, but I guess maybe in this special "pirate" season an exception could be made since the players wouldn't know it was coming...and then they wouldn't be able to do it again (just like no more girl vs. guy tribes) for a while to maintain freshness... BR 1. I'm pretty convinced that the regret is something different from the lie (and it's NOT related to Jon, at least not directly). I don't have that much speculation about the regret other than that it might be sexual (Ted-Ghandia comment...there have been plenty of regrets throughout Survivor...why bring up THAT one if not somehow correlated/related?)...it could be possible for the regret to be impactful because it directly caused the departure of the person (or someone else) and not some sort of moral regret or what-have-you. But would it be a "huge regret" that would impact them after the game? I guess it might if it was, say, someone who takes up the opportunity to switch tribes and then is voted out the next TC? I think that might be stretching it though...it's likely some sort of moral regret. I *heart* my ©2003 GeorgiaBelle Creation "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it" - Mohandas K. Gandhi
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Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
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RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
KeithFan |
09-18-03 |
1 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
AZ_Leo |
09-18-03 |
2 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
FarmBoy |
09-18-03 |
3 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
5 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
7 |
What about the confessionals? |
princessoftides |
09-18-03 |
11 |
RE: What about the confessionals? |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
16 |
RE: What about the confessionals? |
princessoftides |
09-18-03 |
20 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
FarmBoy |
09-18-03 |
34 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Cathy the Canadian |
09-18-03 |
23 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
rnabring |
09-18-03 |
4 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
6 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
smrtNsassybnkr |
09-18-03 |
8 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Amily |
09-18-03 |
13 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
smrtNsassybnkr |
09-18-03 |
24 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
FarmBoy |
09-18-03 |
35 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
tamarama |
09-18-03 |
9 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
AZ_Leo |
09-18-03 |
10 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
12 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
AZ_Leo |
09-18-03 |
14 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Jims02 |
09-18-03 |
15 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
smrtNsassybnkr |
09-18-03 |
17 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Rothschild |
09-18-03 |
18 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
FarmBoy |
09-18-03 |
37 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
19 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Krautboy |
09-18-03 |
21 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
22 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
smrtNsassybnkr |
09-18-03 |
25 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
kykate |
09-18-03 |
26 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
tamarama |
09-18-03 |
29 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
princessoftides |
09-18-03 |
27 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Krautboy |
09-18-03 |
28 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Brownroach |
09-18-03 |
30 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
31 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Amily |
09-18-03 |
33 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
32 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
FarmBoy |
09-18-03 |
38 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
KeithFan |
09-20-03 |
73 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
36 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
tamarama |
09-18-03 |
39 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-18-03 |
40 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
41 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
TeamJoisey |
09-20-03 |
71 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-22-03 |
88 |
How about the other way around? |
tamarama |
09-18-03 |
42 |
RE: How about the other way around? |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
43 |
(off topic) |
tamarama |
09-18-03 |
44 |
RE: How about the other way around? |
Brownroach |
09-18-03 |
45 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
ParkGirl |
09-18-03 |
46 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
ginger |
09-18-03 |
47 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
ginger |
09-18-03 |
48 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
silentJ |
09-18-03 |
49 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mistofleas |
09-18-03 |
50 |
Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
colleenwannabe |
09-19-03 |
51 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
anninvt2002 |
09-19-03 |
52 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
anninvt2002 |
09-19-03 |
53 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
Draco Malfoy |
09-19-03 |
54 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
Booted |
09-19-03 |
55 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
jkokoj |
09-19-03 |
56 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
rnabring |
09-19-03 |
58 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
FarmBoy |
09-19-03 |
57 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
Quali |
09-19-03 |
59 |
RE: Is Lil really a Troop Leader? |
ImNext |
09-21-03 |
76 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Brownroach |
09-19-03 |
60 |
HEY! |
princessoftides |
09-19-03 |
61 |
It IS Tijuana, but something smells... |
princessoftides |
09-19-03 |
62 |
RE: It IS Tijuana, but something sm... |
VerucaSalt |
09-19-03 |
64 |
RE: It IS Tijuana, but something sm... |
tamarama |
09-19-03 |
66 |
RE: HEY! |
Brownroach |
09-19-03 |
63 |
RE: HEY! |
ShowMeTheWinner |
09-20-03 |
67 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Acawap |
09-19-03 |
65 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
SnowBunny |
09-20-03 |
68 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Debster |
09-20-03 |
69 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
mavsfan |
09-20-03 |
70 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
SnowBunny |
09-21-03 |
74 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
aardvark_3 |
09-22-03 |
79 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Joyful |
09-20-03 |
72 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Jims02 |
09-21-03 |
75 |
Random thoughts... |
PhoenixMons |
09-21-03 |
77 |
Big Lie about Occupation? |
Krautboy |
09-21-03 |
78 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
VerucaSalt |
09-22-03 |
80 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
Loree |
09-22-03 |
82 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
VerucaSalt |
09-22-03 |
83 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
Loree |
09-22-03 |
86 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
reckhard |
09-22-03 |
89 |
RE: Big Lie about Occupation? |
DoodleBug |
09-22-03 |
92 |
Big Twist Possibility |
Chez |
09-22-03 |
81 |
JP's words.... |
smrtNsassybnkr |
09-22-03 |
84 |
RE: JP's words.... |
weltek |
09-22-03 |
85 |
Tiebreaker |
Jims02 |
09-22-03 |
87 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Oscirus |
09-22-03 |
90 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
Acawap |
09-22-03 |
91 |
RE: Big Lie, Big Twist Discussion |
VerucaSalt |
09-25-03 |
93 |
Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
mistofleas |
09-25-03 |
94 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
Krautboy |
09-25-03 |
95 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
VerucaSalt |
09-25-03 |
96 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
Brownroach |
09-25-03 |
97 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
tamarama |
09-25-03 |
108 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
VolcanicGlass |
09-25-03 |
98 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
tamarama |
09-25-03 |
106 |
RE: Reporter Confession or Coverup? |
TeamJoisey |
09-25-03 |
100 |
SF Radio station "big twist" |
citygirl |
09-25-03 |
99 |
RE: SF Radio station "big twist" |
TeamJoisey |
09-25-03 |
101 |
RE: SF Radio station "big twist" |
LeftPinky |
09-25-03 |
102 |
RE: SF Radio station "big twist" |
Brownroach |
09-25-03 |
103 |
RE: SF Radio station "big twist" |
mistofleas |
09-25-03 |
104 |
RE: SF Radio station "big twist" |
Brownroach |
09-25-03 |
105 |
Starting a new thread |
mistofleas |
09-25-03 |
107 |
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