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"An alleged spoiler picture"
Gweedeaux 30 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge"
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04-30-03, 03:06 PM (EST)
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"An alleged spoiler picture" |
This post just showed up on Sucks. Sounds like a hoax, but anything can happen 'round here.... Tambaqui Registered User Posts: 3 (4/30/03 1:35:40 pm) Reply It's time to tell about Matthew's gift -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew's gift
I've been biding my time to release this, but Matthew made an appearance at Montgomery College in early March to discuss restaurant concept as part of a Marriott International lecture. I know this because I'm a sophmore here, and attended the lecture myself to meet the guy. We chatted and he mentioned that he's a skilled writer and hopes to sell a script to CBS if they think it's good enough. I later found out from Matt that one of the faculty members whom I'll only call "Mr. Marsden" is an old friend of his, which is why he was there presenting the lecture. It was kind of boring, and Matt was under severe restriction not to even reference his stint on Survivor, but afterwards he gave Mr. Marsden a gift which is now prominently displayed on his office wall. It's a cast photo that has all the survivors and they are raising champagne glasses to toast Matt and Christy who are in the middle of what looks like some sort of decorated dining room. I asked Mr. Marsden a couple of times if I could scan it, but he won't let me. This would've been better if I had a copy to show you, but the show is almost over and I couldn't wait to tell.
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VerucaSalt 1580 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall"
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04-30-03, 03:12 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: An alleged spoiler picture" |
Without this pic who knows BUT the event did happen Montgomery College Calendar Academic Calendar Submit Event PREVIOUS DAY TODAY NEXT DAY WEEKLY VIEW MONTHLY VIEW KEYWORD SEARCH: Presentation by Matthew Von Ertfelda: Restaurant Design: Tools & Trends in New Concept Development Event Type: lecture Start Date and Time: Saturday, March 1, 2003 01:00 PM End Date and Time: Saturday, March 1, 2003 03:00 PM Location: Rockville Building/Address: Technical Center, Room 136, 51 Mannakee Street, Rockville, MD 20850 Description: The Marriott Hospitality Center at Montgomery College proudly presents...
Restaurant Design: Tools & Trends in New Concept Development A Presentation by Matthew Von Ertfelda Director of Concept Design, Marriott International Born in Hong Kong, Matthew Von Ertfelda received a Bachelor of Science degree with distinction at the School of Hotel Administration at Cornell University in New York. He also holds a culinary diploma with honors from L'Ecole de Gastronomie Française Ritz-Escoffier in Paris. Mr. Von Ertfelda is currently working with Marriott International, developing PC-based tools to help restaurants and bar operators design and manage their outlets more effectively. He has previously worked as a restaurant and bar developer in Hong Kong, and a chef's apprentice/cook in Paris. Reception to follow lecture Free Admission Everyone is Welcome For more information, to bring a group, or to request disability-related accommodations, please contact Julie Zagars, Coordinator of the Marriott Hospitality Center, at jzagars@mc.cc.md.us or 301-251-7914. For directions, see our map online: http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/maps/Rvic.html Contact Name: Julie Zagars Contact Number: 301-251-7914 Contact Email: jzagars@mc.cc.md.us http://216.149.136.89/Internet/calendar/details.cfm?ID=2094
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lovetowatch 123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-30-03, 03:12 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: An alleged spoiler picture" |
Just looked at the TDT vidcaps (I think that's what they are called) and there is a picture of Matteo cheering and in his left hand (?) is a wine glass. Looks like a full bodied Chardonnay. Don't see any bubbles...definitely not a champagne glass
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lovetowatch 123 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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04-30-03, 03:26 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: An alleged spoiler picture" |
Actually, I realized that, but what's with the wine. Haven't read any comments on that, and Wham, all of a sudden there flowing champagne in a dining room setting.
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Boilermaker 260 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-30-03, 05:17 PM (EST)
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13. "The Problem is... Christy makes more sense than Jenna" |
OK ChillOne has been incredibly accurate so far. And at this point I still believe him, but game logic and my interpretation of Nash theory coupled with the previews makes me think this is true.First the only way that Jenna being wrong is that ChillOne is a plant. Why would MB or CBS plant someone? To inject interest in the show. CO has really not given us too much real spoiler info right now other than enough information so that we believe that he is legit. He was wrong on the first pick, wrong on Joanna being in the first four, but still approximately picked four out of five so that we would believe his Final 4 was right. Why not give us the first 4, because then it would make those episodes boring for us. We went back and forth the whole time to whether he was accurate and we only fully believed that he was legit after Episode 5. Secondly Jenna should be the #1 target right now for the Misfit 4. She needs Immunity and with the challenge coming up I don't see how her or Heidi will win. Heidi is target #2 and the Misfit 4 shouldn't be ashamed of showing this. Why Jenna #1 and Heidi #2 - she is clearly shown creating the most trouble and conflict in this next episode. She is the leader of the boobie alliance. Leaders of the lesser alliances almost always get voted off first. Even though she exposes Rob, they have to vote her off first. They don't want to put up with this for another 3 days. I don't know how I will vote. But this makes more sense right now than ChillOne. Either way we will know Thursday. - The Wavering Boilermaker
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Boilermaker 260 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-30-03, 05:46 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: BoDog" |
Az_Leo you make a great point but... I don't know how much faith I put in BoDog either. We have thought way before Bodog due to ChillOne that Jenna and Matt were in the Finals. And if ChillOne is wrong at this point in time I don't know how else to understand his accuracy to get to 6 of the Final 4 left without being a plant. Could BoDog be a CBS/Manipulation too? Could this be the work of some great spoilers on sites too?And yes I read elsewhere today that they supposedly also picked the winners of S4 & S5. Now S4 I can't say much about, but there were a good number of people on these boards that believed that following the first 2 episodes that Brian and Clay were the Final 2. Diamond in the Rough and the book and the cover comments ring a bell with me. BoDog also mentioned that one of the reasons the betting was shutdown was the influx of people picking Matt and Jenna in the Finals. This is definitely the work of Spoilers in my opinion. I realize that this theory is a little farfetched and the combination of the two theories is more believeable, but isn't the fact that Jenna makes the Final 2 from what we have seen on the show a little unbelieveable too. Hoping for a Jenna boot, Probably voting according to ChillOne, but just saying...
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AZ_Leo 3526 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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04-30-03, 06:28 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: BoDog" |
Decided to go back and review the stories to answer my own questions. Here's a couple of links:http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=33685§ion=SHOW&subsection=TELEVISION&year=2003&month=4&day=8 Excerpt: After BoDog posted odds on "Survivor: Marquesas," these accounts were opened and the maximum $1,000 wagered on Neleh Dennis and Vecepia Towery, the eventual final two, at odds in the neighborhood of 8-1, according to BoDog spokesman Lance Burton. The $1,000 bets contrast to the typical $25-$50 wager on "Survivor," Burton said. Similar bets were placed on Clay Jordan and Brian Heidik at the beginning of "Survivor: Thailand." And this season, about two hours after odds were posted, the accounts bet the maximum $1,000 on http://www.onlinecasinonews.com/ocn/article/article.asp?id=3072
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Boilermaker 260 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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04-30-03, 08:25 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: CHILLONE" |
Wacko - After seeing Mark Burnett digitally alter the buff colors in Survivor 5, which was an image that non-spoilers would never pay attention to, I believe that he cares enough about us to plant spoilers. And if he really planted the college picture spoiler than he should do more work as it really isn't that convincing. My main point is that Christy makes more sense than Jenna. And since Jenna is a swimsuit model. ChillOne told us and I quote "FINAL 4 (2W, 2M): Deaf Girl (as previously mentioned) Jana or Jenna, 23 Another guy, 26; "strong build" Another guy, 50" and also "I was told that 'Jana or Jenna, 23', was not the most "attractive" girl coming into the show, but, at the end (being in the Final 4) and loosing sound lb.'s, this contestant was considered to be the best looking. Now, that puts a little twist on my information. Jenna M. is a hottie coming into the show (based on the pics), so, maybe my sources were thinking of Jeanne Herbert (who looks more "average, all-american girl" sized vs. the thin model type) ??? Hmmmmm .... Then again, maybe Jenna M. was a few pounds heavier coming into the show (beefed-up knowing the food situation would be scarce). Anyway, I will go with Jenna M. for the Final 4. There is no way that anyone could think that Jenna M. wasn't hot coming into the show. Maybe ChillOne is confusing Christy and Jenna, but it sure looks interesting to me. By the way I also believe that Alex was probably planted by MB and discussed this after the last episode (So I guess I believe in more conspiracies than most). I posted about the Joanna thing as an example and should have done more homework. ChillOne predicted the order of the first four boots to be: Daniel "Followed by: Ryan (not Brian), Joanna (african American contestant), and 'Another lady around 30'" The real first four were Ryan, Janet, Daniel, Joanna followed by Jeanne. My point in bringing this up in the 1st place was just to speculate that if this was a plant, by even slightly incorrectly placing the order ChillOne really didn't give us the exact episode that anyone got eliminated while still giving us enough to make us believe that his Final 4 was right. If this was now proven incorrect, then we would be more fixated with the show and it could only help ratings.
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Ms_Ultra 16 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Got Milk? Spokesperson"
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04-30-03, 06:08 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: The Problem is... Christy makes more sense than Jenna" |
Just like we think CO might be a plant, I wouldn't put it beyond MB or CBS to have plants voting at Bodogg just to throw spoilers off. Since the Bodogg voting scandals for S4 and S5 was common knowledge on Spoiler boards, I'm sure MB and CBS were also aware of this avenue for spoiling......why not cause a little voting frenzy to make it appear that Matt and Jenna were F2 to keep everyone off course?????
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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04-30-03, 05:29 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: The Problem is... Christy makes more sense than Jenna" |
Also, they are starting to think about who they're going to be up against in F2
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snoocharoo 1 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson"
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05-01-03, 10:43 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: The Problem is... Christy makes more sense than Jenna" |
Boilermaker and Ed,That is my question. Why have not been informed of the ramifications of the betting done by CBS and SEG employees? All of the contestants have to sign non-disclosure agreements, wouldn't you think MB would be smart enough to safeguard his cash-cow and require non-disclosures from his employees?????????? As for betting on Thailand, I think it was dumbluck. Here is my take, and please note I am NOT tooting my own horn just laying down the cards as I see em. Anyone with rudimentary spoiler knowledge could have pegged Brian and Clay as the F2, first of all I know for fact that Brian Heidick was RECRUITED for S5. Secondly, there was overwhelming spoiler evidence that those two made it a long way in the game even before the game started, we had pics from QuartzEye, we had all the Smoking Gun press releases, the pieces were all there, someone just had to put them together. No great revelations. And let me tell you also, SEG employees read the spoiler boards, they tinker with the vid caps and specialize in misdirecting us away from the actual winner. It is in the best interest of the betting house for people to LOSE bets, not win them. What better way to misdirect the F2 then to have your minions place some bogus bets and publisize the alleged scandal?? Maybe I'm deluded and living in conspiracy mode but it completely makes sense. BoDogg is in this to make MONEY, as is MB, CBS and SEG. "And I don't even care to shake these zipper blues. And we don't know just where our bones will rest,to dust I guess. Forgotten and absorbed to the Earth below."
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Chez 777 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Fitness Correspondent"
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04-30-03, 09:04 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: An alleged spoiler picture" |
OK, I don't believe it either, but I did go search the faculty of Montgomergy College Department of Management/Hospitality, which seems to be where the Mariott course came from. Not many faculty members, and definitely no one with the name Marsden. The closest I could find to the name was Mr. Peter Stein (Mrstein/Marsden). Oh well, it is a stretch.
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TribalTex29 63 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Hollywood Squares Square"
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04-30-03, 06:48 PM (EST)
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24. "Loyalty vs Money" |
For awhile the Matt Jenna F2 made sense and still does, because if Jenna were in the final 4 AND won the last immunity then the Butch/Matt alliance would have to vote for Christy, leaving the two men to choose he based on the fact that they stood a better chance against her.This proposes 2 questions, are Butch and Matt more loyal to each other or are Christy and Matt? Was that peice where Christy said Matt was creepy taken ut of context. We all know that everyone at camp thought Matt was creepy, in fact t was the joke. I think like Lex in S3, we were seeing editing that showed a much meaner spirited/crazy guy than there really is. I cannot imagine Jenna going on this amazing immunity run where she gets the last two or three immunities, forcing Butch and Matt to vote off Christy (although it would take only 1 immunity win for Jenna-the last one) PLus, from the feeling I get about Matt, there is a certain loyalty he has for Christy and a respect. The words he spoke about Christy probably having to deal with girls like Heidi and Jenna (being mean) her whole life were fairly powerful. I think even knowing that taking Jenna to the F2 would be a better bet to winning, Matt would still choose Christy, KNOWING, that Christy would probably not get the votes of A/H/J/R. Right now, immunity is key in determing the final 3. Jenna has to win it to make it to the F2, and maybe she wins the last immunity, taking Matt over Butch, resulting in a Matteo victory. Which way will it go? H/R/C/B/J/M?
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Wacko Jacko 2438 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Seventeen Magazine Model"
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05-02-03, 09:47 AM (EST)
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42. "RE: alleged spoiler picture is bogus" |
We now know this is bogus but why would Burnett give all the survivors visual evidence of what happened out there. Especially a picture that Survivors could hang in their homes. This made no sense from the beginning.
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FSUGUY 447 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star"
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05-02-03, 09:42 AM (EST)
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41. "I believe this...." |
I believe this was Matt toasting Christy's A$$ goodbye!
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