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"contact CBS"
emstexas 1 desperate attention whore postings
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09-17-03, 10:15 PM (EST)
 
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"contact CBS" |
I just send CBS an email. Bigotry should not be tolerated.
CBS televised Robert's comments about the girls being bitches and whores. CBS should air Jun and Alison's nasty racial remarks and also their hateful threats regarding Robert's daughter.
I wish the jury members, after hearing all three people's statements, would just refuse to vote for either one of them. What would CBS do then???
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babs4321 1 desperate attention whore postings
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09-17-03, 11:16 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: contact CBS" |
I agree, they called him out but what those girls said was worse. Saying that about a little kid is disgusting. They are so immature.
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Jayzzzy 88 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-03, 10:54 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: contact CBS" |
while I abhor bigotry of any kind and strive not to exhibit it in my life, I have a problem with the erosion of our rights to free speech. Ali and Jun showed themselves to be mean spirited, rude, mean and downright awful. However, this is a free country and we all have a right to say or think how we feel. If someone is offended, sorry. The current "PC" thinking is a dangerous slippery slope. Once a person's thoughts and feelings, however negative, are regulated by government or media we are in big big trouble as a free people.
OK, I am done with my rant.....
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LoftStory 30 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-03, 01:16 PM (EST)
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5. "Scott's STD issues?" |
I hadn't heard about that before! Were they discussed on the live feeds?
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bb4fan 141 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-03, 01:40 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Huh?" |
You're sharp, Fester, so you may be right, but when I read the original post, I too thought the poster was saying that Ali and Jun's speech should be regulated. "Bigotry should not be tolerated" suggests to me that we should punish Ali and Jun or somehow restrict what they're allowed to say. As an Army veteran, I have sworn to defend a constitution that provides the rights of Americans, which includes Freedom of Speech. As long as Ali and Jun don't violate the rights of others, anything they engage in, including bigotry, should be tolerated. I'm old, fat, and blind now, but I'm still willing to fight and defend, with my life if neccessary, the rights of Ali and Jun to be bigots.Having said that, their actions discuss me. I hate them. I too would love to see them disgraced on national TV, but I believe you're absolutely correct in that BB is not going to show us anything that might hurt the show. They would lose many more viewers by publicly airing such behavior by their finalists than they will be keeping quiet about something that a few find on the feed or internet.
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Joyful 232 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-03, 03:12 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: contact CBS" |
>I just send CBS an email.
>Bigotry should not be tolerated.
>
>CBS televised Robert's comments about the
>girls being bitches and whores.
>CBS should air Jun and
>Alison's nasty racial remarks and
>also their hateful threats regarding
>Robert's daughter.
>I wish the jury members, after
>hearing all three people's statements,
>would just refuse to vote
>for either one of them.
>What would CBS do then???
I don't think emstexas was trying to take away Jun and Alisluts right to speak their small shallow minds. I read the post as an injustice that Robert was called out on national TV about the remarks he had made about the girls and it's only right that those two should be called out as well...on national TV.
CBS chose to air that Robert segment and humiliate him (I don't condone what Robert said either, yet what Jun and Alislut said was a hundred times worse) and Jun and Alislut deserve to be humiliated as well and be held accountable, in front of America, for what they said.
I for one would like to see what Jun and Alislut would say when confronted on live TV with what they said about Robert's daughter.
But it will never happen. My only consolation is that enough people are aware of what was said that their first few days back in public will be made a living hell by anyone they come across on the street.
And Julie said on the 9/17 broadcast that all of the houseguests would watch the entire season then have a chance to confront one another about it. I truly hope that they include Jun and Alisluts racist remarks and heartless and cruel words about Robert's innocent young daughter.
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Joyful 232 desperate attention whore postings
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09-18-03, 04:42 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: contact CBS" |
I think it's just tape of the shows that aired. I'm hoping though that CBS includes that little snippet from the live feeds just so that Robert can see exactly whom he is calling "sweet". It will be after the vote though, no chances to see anything except what they've already seen in the "loser's lodge". I'm thinking Alislut will still win. Hopefully she'll use her money wisely and buy herself some friends and a new personality.
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LoftStory 30 desperate attention whore postings
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09-19-03, 08:02 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: contact CBS" |
What was worse about what Ali and Jun said? Are you referring to the comments about Robert's daughter, or the fact that their slurs were racist (as opposed to "merely" misogynistic)?
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Viking 14 desperate attention whore postings
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09-20-03, 01:03 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: contact CBS" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-20-03 AT 01:10 PM (EST)
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>Viking: If you'll scroll up
>and read my earlier post
>you'll see that, IMHO, what
>that post was all about
>was making Jun and Alislut
>accountable for what they said.
> Robert was held accountable;
>CBS made sure of that
>by calling him out about
>it on national TV. Do
>Alislut and Jun deserve any
>less for what they said?
> I read nothing in
>that post about censorship, it
>was all about responsibility.
>And I hope you agree
>that while the first amendment
>gives us the right to
>say whatever we want, a
>person should also be held
>accountable for their actions. I
>think Jun and Alislut need
>to face the music on
>their unnecessarily cruel remarks about
>Robert's daughter, but I don't
>question their right to say
>it. I do despise
>them for it...that's MY right. I'm outraged about this as well. Robert has definately been held to a higher standard than Jun and Alison. Why is that? Why are Robert's comments about bitches and whores aired on CBS, while at the same time Jun and Alison's comments about Robert's Cuban heritage, and the name calling of Robert's 7 year old daughter NOT AIRED?? He's my theory. Robert is a straight, White male. He has lot's of self confidence. His past two girlfriends, Erika and Elana's mother, are White. (please don't split hairs with me on speculation that Robert's mother or ex-girlfriends may be slieghtly mixed) He is proud of his heritage. Alison made fun of Robert's Cuban heritage. You would think that would be politically incorrect? Right?? NOT necessarily. Cuban is a nationality, NOT a race. Making racial remarks against a non-white is considered evil. Making fun of a White person's nationality is not considered as bad as "White racism" and therefore may be given a pass by the politically correct. Which is exactly what happened. On the other hand, Jun and Alison are two women who happen to be dating outside their race. This CHOOSEN BEHAVIOR is loved by the politically correct. The fact these women are rotten people is secondary. The fact these women are in interracial relationships allows them extra leway in the way they are presented on CBS. If you have another explanation on why Robert has been treated more harsh than Jun and Alison at the hands of Arnold Shapiro and the rest down at CBS, I'd like to hear it.
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FesterFan1 5947 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-03, 10:57 AM (EST)
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24. "You lost me" |
If you have another explanation on why Robert has been treated more harsh than Jun and Alison at the hands of Arnold Shapiro and the rest down at CBS, I'd like to hear it.The reason why Robert was called out about his angry remarks was that they were directed at other people in the house. Also, it made a nice juxtaposition of attitudes when placed next to Jee, the "Nice Guy". Besides, when it got down to him and the 3 women, it put him in the position of having to try to trust and politic with the people he had just called "bitches" and "whores" and "sluts". The Ali and Jun thing is a little different. First of all, they won't air the stuff regarding Elena. The reason for this is two-fold, IMO. First, we're talking about a child, and trying to protect her from the fall-out. Sure, she could still hear about it via the net and the feeds, but I don't think CBS TV is going to be complicit in what would surely be upsetting to her. Second, CBS already knows that the audience hates Jun and Ali, and not in a "love to hate" kind of way. They've received letters from the minority of the audience who follow the feeds and know about this. They're in danger of alienating viewers. They need to at least keep up the illusion that Ali and Jun are just nasty "in the game". As for calling Robert a "M-F-ing Cuban" and wanting to "send him back to the island", they may show some of that, but considering that Robert's out of the house, I doubt they will. However, I don't think it has anything to do with Robert being "white". First of all, he's not, at least not by current racial labeling standards. He's hispanic or latino. And I don't really get how it's PC to not point out someone's disdain for another culture, as exhibited by Ali and Jun. As for CBS's motives being driven by their "endorsement" of interracial relationships, that makes absolutely no sense to me. I don't believe that CBS cares one iota about who their contestants are dating, and wouldn't show bias based on the demographic qualities of Donny or Bob. Nevermind that Donny's already been on the show talking about how disappointed he is in Ali and how little of a chance he thinks their relationship has now. Basically, I think ANY reason other than yours is a better one.  Fester
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tamarama 1785 desperate attention whore postings
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09-19-03, 10:24 AM (EST)
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16. "sometimes censorship is appropriate" |
>>Should my rant here be censored???<<Actually, yes. This is a PG13, no-flamer board. If you are using offensive language in your posts, the mods will censor you, as is their right -- it's their board. The fact that this board is well monitored and has this particular tone is exactly why many of us hang out here rather than elsewhere. Using those offensive words to quote houseguests is one thing.
Using those offensive words to state your own opinion is another. I'm assuming you were using that language to make a point, and don't generally call people those things.
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Viking 14 desperate attention whore postings
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09-20-03, 00:18 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: sometimes censorship is appropriate" |
>>>Should my rant here be censored???<<
>
>Actually, yes.
>
>This is a PG13, no-flamer board.
> If you are using
>offensive language in your posts,
>the mods will censor you,
>as is their right --
>it's their board. The
>fact that this board is
>well monitored and has this
>particular tone is exactly why
>many of us hang out
>here rather than elsewhere.
>
>Using those offensive words to quote
>houseguests is one thing.
>Using those offensive words to state
>your own opinion is another.
>
>
>I'm assuming you were using that
>language to make a point,
>and don't generally call people
>those things.I used the strong language (the racial slurs) to make a point. Maybe it was a little too strong. Let me water this down a little. I judge people based on character and behavior. I do not approve of interracial dating or marriage. Jun, Alison, Amanda, and Dave are all guilty of dating outside their race. A delibrate, conscience, choice they all made. I rufuse to applaud this type of choice. In fact, I will make a point of criticizing this choice. I don't make this an issue. The producers make this an issue by alowing so many race mixers on the show. I just respond to it.
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frisky 11695 desperate attention whore postings
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09-19-03, 09:24 AM (EST)
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15. "RE: contact CBS" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-19-03 AT 09:26 AM (EST)Why don't we send a flurry of angry emails to BB's advertisers threatening to boycott their products? I think this would have a bigger impact on CBS. I'm sure the fatcats at Burger King and Tidy Bowl haven't a clue what's going on in that house. They just see reasonably high ratings, and sign the contract. Let's educate them! There's a recrap tonight. Take note of the companies and products that are paying for this. Ask them why they condone and support verbal abuse of children. I disagree with you on one point: I think that airing Alislut's and Jun's commments about Elena could affect Elena for life. I'm not exaggerating. I'm totally against that. I agree that it would look good on Ali and Jun, but the harm done to the child would far outweigh any benefit of broadcasting their remarks.
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kywildcat 34 desperate attention whore postings
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09-22-03, 06:49 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: contact CBS" |
What did Erika say that was racist? I must have missed it. I didn't think too much of her either, especially after the day of the Blimp ride when she said "maybe it will blow up and they'll die", or something to that effect.
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kywildcat 34 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-03, 10:03 AM (EST)
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29. "RE: contact CBS" |
Exactly, realityluver. Doesn't the word "discrimination" come to mind?
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CRUZ 2 desperate attention whore postings
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09-23-03, 06:31 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: contact CBS" |
I agreee 100% realityluver.......Jun and Alison should NOT be allowed to get away with their comments. Everyone else has been held accountable so why not them? I think CBS has bitten off more than they can chew this time......every single message board out there about Big Brother has negative comments about this whole mess. In fact, alot of people are boycotting the final show because CBS hasn't stepped up to the plate and made sure the comments are dealt with.......
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SteffiGurl 358 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-03, 06:35 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: contact CBS" |
I think the only reason that Ali and Jun are getting away with their nasty comments is because to some, it will look like lashing out from Robert calling them "whores". Some people might think they are justified. But basically, Ali and Jun proved to be just as bad as Robert. Because Robert did it first, they probably think they have free range on insulting him, but ya know, it doesn't mean they have to do it. Especially even to go so far as to drag his daughter in it, who has no involvement in the situation. Ali and Jun were just being "Junior HS" and are mouthing off stupidly and childishly. It's pretty damn obnoxious.
However, it won't surprise me if we never see this on TV, but it doesn't mean the jury won't know about it. I mean, if we know about it, soon everyone will, and however it happens, it's going to bite them in the ass.Also, I embrace mixed-race relationships. We are all family on the same planet, and you love who you love, which is more important than appearance and culture. Tradition is good, but it can kill spiritual freedom. OK, I'm gonna go save a whale now...
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings
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09-24-03, 06:46 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: contact CBS" |
I agree with the opinions of AliSlut and Jun--but where is all the Robert love coming from? I'm sorry, but CBS could have portrayed him as way way worse than he was edited to be. He was called Ratbert early on for a reason. CBS edited one of the worst of the Robert's remarks, but anyone who watched the feeds from the very beginning would know how vile he really was. There was no "favortism" from CBS from what I'm seeing. Robert was edited way positively than he actually was and his bad points still came out.
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