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"I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO"
katysax 11 desperate attention whore postings
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03-31-04, 04:38 PM (EST)
 
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"I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
I work as a senior executive in a company where I have to make a lot of hiring and firing decisions. I would not hire any of these people on this show to be a CEO or business unit leader. From what I've seen so far I would consider hiring Amy to work in Marketing, Nick to work in sales, and Bill in a operating capacity. I would possibly consider Kwame for a business development role. I wouldn't hire Troy for anything - of all of them I think in some respects he has the most characteristics of a good business unit leader, but he doesn't know when to shut up, has questionable ethical judgment, and probably doesn't have the analytical skills necessary in modern business (like it or not senior executives and CEOs spend a lot of time with spreadsheets). The final five are all attractive, articulate and appealing but none of them is ready to be a CEO.As a multi week job interview this show has shown me that testing people over several weeks doesn't tell you a heck of a lot more than the typical interviewing process does. (Of course, the real value of these tasks as a test is pretty debatable). I'm pretty shocked, not just by the number of rookie mistakes, but by the tendancy of people to repeat their rookie mistakes even after they've had plenty of information about how to do things differently. Also, since these people are trying to impress Trump, why haven't they studied "The Art of the Deal" and why don't they refer to it when making decisions?
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deborah 5 desperate attention whore postings
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04-09-04, 03:20 PM (EST)
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34. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
did you say "Bill has the makings of a superb operating executive" wait until they try to find Mr. Trumps golf bag.
the tournament, a lot of people coming in, a lot of baggage , a lot of food and drinks and if they bring the wife and kids they need outings for the. I don't think Bill can handle it. But, I believe the number one rule of a superb manager is to surround your self with good people. Look what they had to choose from.
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04-01-04, 11:14 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
You know what you say you wouldnt hire any of "these people" but they dont care. They dont want to work for you because although you may be some big shot YOUR NOT DONALD TRUMP!!! And I know you will be proven wrong "these people" will become extemly sucessful because they wont let anyone like you bring them down!
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managerr 1959 desperate attention whore postings
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03-31-04, 05:03 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
I've heard a number of business professionals say the same thing. A lot of the contestants are good at certain capacities, but none see to be President/CEO material.
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04-10-04, 08:01 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
Please, these guys are NOT being hired to be CEO. They are being paid 250K in a role. Find me a CEO making only that amount of money.
True, none of them are going to be on the short list for Coke CEO, but thats not what is being offered here.
Within the Trump organization, if they get to run one of the smaller business units, they will have reporting to Trump, George (Gen Counsel), and probably half dozen others including the CFO, whoever is in charge of Trump's branding, etc. etc.
Hey, maybe Kwame gets to run the Trump Ice business.
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03-31-04, 06:48 PM (EST)
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4. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
LAST EDITED ON 03-31-04 AT 06:49 PM (EST)Part of the problem with this show is its "obsession" with casting young, good looking contestants for ratings purposes. Obviously the fact that the majority of the contestants are in their 20's and have a limited amount of business experience pretty much precludes them from having the lengthy business experience that one would typically want in anyone being hired for a CEO role. Honestly, how many 20-something CEO's do you see out there??? (not counting those who are the founders of their own company, running a family business, etc.) If any of them walked into a headhunter's office saying they were looking for a CEO placement I'd be shocked if they weren't laughed out of the office (particularly in this economy) but the youthfulness of the contestants is pretty much a Burnett staple that's probably been somewhat compounded by the practical fact that typically you don't see 40-something year old "apprentices" Don't expect to see any Rudy Boesch's on this show anytime soon... -SB
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04-02-04, 02:33 AM (EST)
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26. "you couldn't hire any of these people" |
Silly people the difference between you and these people is that they are living their lives in the real word not faking the funk like you people in here. These people are all bright individuals who are making it . A copy salesman and a GOLDNUTSACHS executive going heads up. This is TV at it finest.
As for rookie mistakes what you never make mistakes in new territory? Please give me a break
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Bosco 449 desperate attention whore postings
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03-31-04, 11:10 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
I guess that means I look old because I'm married?  
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qwertypie 9776 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 05:58 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
Thrity-five? You're kidding me. I attribute my youthful appearance to having never been married and not having kids. Those things will suck the life force out of anyone.
I love my children desperately but I have to agree with you that they are life-force-sucker-outers (not to mention brain cells too!) 
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Bosco 449 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 06:46 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
Not true if you take good care of yourself you can still look young
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Bosco 449 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 10:51 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
You work for Trump soon you will have his hair
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banzai 556 desperate attention whore postings
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10-12-04, 12:17 PM (EST)
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36. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
I didn't know Carolyn is that young
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04-03-04, 05:16 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
Sorry mizz E Carolyn is 35. She saif so on Jay Leno and on ET. Also when she's on these shows she look younger and is dressed differently.
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04-01-04, 09:50 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
I saw Carolyn on Jay Leno lastnight and she looks 35 to me. She looked much younger and less strict on the show.
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 03:12 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-04 AT 03:14 PM (EST)>In the People Magazine article about The Apprentice it said that
>Carolyn was hired 10 years ago to run Trump's golf
>course (now courses). Since she is only 35 or
>36 right now that would mean that she was very
>young when she was given an executive position in the
>Trump organization. The article said she had a high
>level job at another major golf course when she met
>Trump. I doubt a 26 year old was hired to "run" the course. Perhaps she joined the organization then, but I doubt she came in as the president of the division. But even if she did, maybe it's just me, but running what was then one golf course is not what I consider to be a traditional CEO position -- it'd be like calling Kristi Frank the "CEO" of the restaurant she supposedly owns in California or Rocco the "CEO" of his restaurant. Ya, they are in charge, but there's a reason those folks tend to get called "managers" more than "CEO's" -- those positions aren't the type of senior management "business world" positions that I think anyone is talking about here. -SB
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 05:28 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-04 AT 05:29 PM (EST)>Well Fitz Daniel Tabas Tepper, the executive producer of the Fercos
>Brothers Show at the Trump Taj Mahal Casino is 10
>years old, so I don't think that a 26 year
>old CEO is out of the realm of possibilities. Point #1 -- How is a position as a "executive producer" of a circus show at a red-ink oozing casino even remotely close to a CEO position??? Point #2 -- Did I ever say it was "out of the realm of possibilities?" No. I said "how many 20-something CEO's do you see out there" that aren't running businesses that they themselves or their family started -- not that they don't exist. After just checking their website, any chance a "sixth generation performer" working in the "The Flying Fercos" family business might be considered... a family business??? -SB
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SurvivorBlows 15230 desperate attention whore postings
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04-01-04, 05:39 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-01-04 AT 05:42 PM (EST)I don't doubt you can be an EVP at 36, heck, you can be one at 20-something as well, I personally know several (barely 20-something, but still technically 20-something) -- and they aren't circus performers, but genuine EVP's at large established corporations. But an EVP is not a CEO. My original point is with regard to the original poster's comments -- and pointing out that qualified 20-something CEO candidates are few and far between -- and that honestly, few of those who are smart enough to have built such a career at such a young age are likely to throw it all away to appear on a show like this. Not to mention that fact that just as Survivor doesn't aim to cast 16 rugged outdoor survival experts every season, no one should be expecting Mark Burnett to cast 16 business gurus and stellar business performers who would breeze through the challenges -- that's not how casting works. -SB
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04-01-04, 07:04 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Carolyn is a young Executive VP" |
Trump never said anything about this person being a CEO. On one occasion, he called the position "President" and this could mean Assisstant Vice-President or something like that. This person will work for Trump and be "President of one of his companies" the same way that Omoanorosa "worked for President Clinton" as the assisstant associate executive of personnel in the Whitehouse.
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04-02-04, 02:47 AM (EST)
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27. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
Troy wouldn't work for you, he has his own company. And why would a senior executive be talking in this chatroom anyway?
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katysax 11 desperate attention whore postings
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04-02-04, 01:21 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: I wouldn't hire any of these people to be a CEO" |
Huh? Why wouldn't a senior executive be talking in this chatroom?
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