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"SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!"
SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings
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Our man Supes had to take some unexpected time off, so I'm back with you again this week. Sorry for my tardiness.THE RULES 1. Please put the name of your choice for this week's bootee IN THE SUBJECT HEADING! Simply replace the section of your post that reads: "Re:SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" with your pick. 2. Reply ONLY to this post! Do not reply to the last post on this thread. Do not reply to any other post on this thread. After reading these rules on THIS post click on the "reply" button in the bottom right of THIS POST ONLY. 3. THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD! DO NOT TREAT IT AS SUCH! When you make your post, feel free to give your reasoning and your theories in the message portion. BUT, for further discussion of said theories, take it outside. THE STRONGLY WORDED SUGGESTIONS 1. If you read the summary and didn't get a chance to thank the writer, now would be a great time to do so. This week's summary writer was DangerKitty. Woohoo, Kitty! Ding ding ding! 2. Taunt previous violators of the rules at will upon their first violation. I'm running short on time, so you'll have to find any yourself this week. THE THANK YOU To all of you who took the time to check out our site in response to last week's meek request, THANK YOU. We love you, man! Okay, that's it. Have fun! 
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04-09-02, 11:52 PM (EST)
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1. "Robfaddah" |
Tough call, but the Kathy arguments don't seem to have as much evidence behind them.
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04-09-02, 11:58 PM (EST)
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2. "Neleh" |
I may very well be the only one who votes this way, but lots of things pointing this way to me:1) When Sarah was asked who she relates to most on the show, she said instantaneously "Neleh". She didn't seem to bond much with her in the short time they were tribemates. 2)Foreshadowing of Rob/John deal to vote off New Maraamu prior to New Rotu. John has been shown to show his playing hand, so will stick to his word and Rob knows this. 3)I think Robert wins IC with Neleh a close 2nd. I think the hugging shots are from IC and Neleh is congratulatory hugging Robert. See IC thread for more. This makes Neleh a potential competitor and a threat. 4)Kathy peed on John for goodness sake. He is not going to choose her for boot. Peeing on someone MUST buy some points! HAHA 5)Neleh HAS been featured in Eyemail 6)No person who has won the gross food challenge for their team has ever made the jury (Kimmi, Stacey, Linda) 7)Enough face time, shown in previews in positive non-threatening manner 8)True Lies = Kathy thinks Zoe lying to her...yes and no...Kathy is NOT the potential BOOTEE...two team members to go before her... 9)This I believe sets us up for "Jury's Out"...First, his old tribe cans his "son", and now "his" daughter...Jury will be overruled....Judge is making decisions which I think will signal the joining of P/K and V/S/R against J/Z/R/T. 10) I think Kathy and Rob are going to be the secret alliance which will be formed when they are at the ambassadorship. I think we are due for a surprise. MB would have never let the merge be known so easily if we weren't in for a surprise this episode...
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04-10-02, 00:02 AM (EST)
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4. "Kathy" |
She may continue to lose weight after she is ousted the same way Mad Dog Maralyn did.
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6. "Da' Rawbfawduh" |
After all of the speculating, and after all of the possible choices, my decision came from the all powerful MAGIC 8-ball!!!!I asked the 8-ball: "Is Kathy getting voted out this week??" 8-ball- signs point to no Then I ask: "8-ball, is Rob going??" 8-ball: Yes My last question: "Who should my alternate pick be??" 8-ball: I'll have to get back to you on that. Thanks a lot magic 8-ball!! (you jerk) I make the alternate pic of Kathy Great summary DangerKitty, and lastly: BOO THE VIOLATORS!!!!
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04-10-02, 01:01 AM (EST)
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7. "John" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-10-02 AT 09:42 AM (EST)1. See Fester's Summary for a good breakdown of why John will be booted. Also see my own thoughts on Rob vs John 2. Also on the EZboards, there is a thread discussing a spoiling method by eliminating those who are mentioned by name in the "Next Episode" section on the CBS site from possible bootee prospects. Note: It has failed in the past - but the number of times it has have been going down with each series with only one last season (Brandon, ep 9) Kathy and Rob are both mentioned by name, and somewhat related, Kathy and Rob are both named in other summaries and heavily featured in vidcaps much moreso than the third most likely bootee, John. ie. "Kathy and Rob worry about their positions in the game", "Kathy and Rob go on a secret quest", "Kathy and Rob want the truth" etc. 3. I think the "unlikely alliance" may be right under our noses and we're denying it - Kathy and Rob - I said in another post that Rob may not reveal his hand to Kathy so early; but now that we know she knows NewMara is targeted, it would seem that he ~has~ told her. I think we're underestimating Rob's desperation to be rid of John. And Kathy? Maybe she'll actually turn out to be a ~good~ player in this game, which means mutually life-saving K/R alliance even though she's been told he's scum? You betcha! 4. I'm also going to go with a ~minor~ fourth (no offense) - Maraarotu's pattern. This could fall apart anytime, but it has been accurate for this season so far. If it holds up, Rob will not go in this episode. NOTE: I'd just really like to say it's not an emotional decision here: I would hate to see John go - he's half of the conflict out there and I would love to see Kathy go, as that is the most interesting boot possible this week IMO. And finally, to go with my alternate pick, KATHY, here's a whole lot of (mostly storyline centered) Speculation on why I think she's ready for the boot. Hooray for kitty! ^-^ Boo violators (what a great word ;)! ----------------------------------------
Now let us never speak of S3 again. Gabriel: "Alright, John go straight! Straight!" - Um, Gabe?  
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04-10-02, 01:10 AM (EST)
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8. "Kathy" |
None of the arguments for John or Rob have convinced me they are going this week, but I'm betting on Rob winning immunity, and I've been suspecting Kathy all week.
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04-10-02, 02:47 AM (EST)
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10. "Rob" |
There are plenty of scenarios to support either Rob or Kathy this week. The Weight Loss Theory and Game Logic have me choosing to put more trust in Gina's comments than those of EthanFan. Here's some of the other evidence that supports a Rob boot this week... OFG Theory: All the main characters (Rob, Kathy and John) are featured in the vidcap previews for this week, so the OFG Theory does not help to narrow down the field this week, it just confirms the prime targets.
Strategies Revealed Don’t Succeed:
Just like last week, the Zap2it preview adds additional information to the CBS website preview. And just like last week, the preview reveals strategies...
"As Rob attempts to work an angle that will keep him in the game, his simmering disapprobation towards John explodes into a hostile confrontation."
"Meanwhile, Kathy becomes increasingly paranoid that her old Rotu members have targeted her as the next to go, although Zoe vehemently denies the claim when confronted."
...and just like last week the Strategies Revealed will probably not succeed.
Kathy is led to believe the Rotu have targeted her, but either they haven't or she wins the endurance challenge. Rob's "attempt" to keep himself in the game falls short.
CBS EyeMail Theory
During S3 contestants were never profiled after their boot, and the same pattern is unfolding in S4. There are enough episodes left to allow all the contestants to be profiled by the week of the final episode.
At this stage in the game, those contestants not yet profiled are probably still safe and those that have been profiled are the most likely to be voted out.
So for this week, Neleh, Rob, Robert, Sean, and Tammy are the likely targets.
Weight Loss Theory:
Kathy's has been reported to have significant weight loss of 30lbs.
In one of his interviews Gabe said he lost weight before he was booted. Then he ate for days and regained his weight in a few weeks, Sarah also lost weight and regained it at the lodge.
In order for Kathy to have returned home with that kind of weight loss, she can't have had much time to regain it. She lasts a while longer.
Rob’s Friends? Based on their comments, of all the previous bootees seem to have reconciled with Rob. Based on how Rob has played the game, the reconciliation must have occurred after the game. Since this week’s bootee is the last member at the lodge not sequestered to the jury, Rob will most likely go and have an opportunity to rehabilitate his image.
Gina’s Early Show Interview:
Gina’s comments on the Early Show were very revealing:
"He played the game stupid, he'll even tell you that. But he's still in the game and I'm not, so maybe he's smarter than me."
"We didn't get along on the island, but he's a great person off of the island."
Gina seemed to slip and then try to cover up her slip up. Also the fact that she got to know him “off the island” suggests that Rob filled the last spot at the lodge.
Editing:
Based on how the previews have been edited, the votes this week will go to some combination of Kathy, Rob or John. This is also the first week where we will see the Individual IC. Last week MB often edited the weeks IC winner as the target for that week to create suspense, drama and a surprise when someone else was actually voted out at TC. From the editing, it seems very likely that one of the three main characters this week wins immunity, thereby shifting the target to one of the other two…John or Kathy probably win the Endurance IC this week and Rob says goodbye at TC
Game Logic:
There are spoilers and scenarios to support either a Kathy or Rob boot this week, but the game logic says it's still too early for John to get rid of Kathy... John is playing the game and knows it’s too early to vote out Kathy, otherwise Paschal and Neleh would suspect they were next and switch over to ally with Rob/ Sean /Vee , leaving John/Tammy/Robert/Zoe at a 5-4 disadvantage. John must take out Rob first and keep Kathy/Paschal and Neleh thinking they are still part of the original Rotu alliance.
Thanks "Goddess of Words"! Great summary DK!
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04-10-02, 03:18 AM (EST)
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11. "John" |
reasons:1) his alliance is only 4 people so he loses in a 4-6 vote.
2) Pascale & Neleh won't rejoin the old tribe after Gabes boot.
3) Kathy will be too suspicious of John's 4 person alliance to trust them (John has been too vocal and Rob will make sure Kathy knows John's alliance is 4 and only 4 people).
4) Kathy will think she's got a better chance voting with Rob now and outsmarting him later, than she would being John's 5th wheel.
5) looser cruise ship spoiler - I discounted it at the time, but if it's true, then this is John's week to head for the cruise ship. We discussed during Survivor Africa that a winning alliance only has to be made up of 2-3 core people, but that you still have to have additional people (patsies) who THINK they are in the alliance, (or atleast don't see voting against the alliance as an option). Assuming Vee isn't part of John's alliance (or part of a Zoe, Tammy alliance with John/Robert as patsies?) - John doesn't seem to have enough votes to get rid of Rob or Kathy. So Rob and Kathy join to ax John.
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04-10-02, 06:16 AM (EST)
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12. "John" |
I think the key will be the Rob and Kathy pre-merge 'ambassador meeting'. Rob will have the time to provide details of John's activities leading up to Gabe's ouster.Kathy will then have a brief time to pass this info onto Neleh and Paschal. The three former Rotu are thus primed to ask some pretty tough questions about what went on during their absence. These questions are initially answered with lies and this further enflames Kathy's curiosity and suspicion. An alliance of convenience between the returning Rotus and the three remaining original Maras naturally evolves. Even though MB would have us believe that Vee is waivering in her alliance with Sean and Rob, she has consistently voted in their block. Rob will target the vote toward the leader of the Rotu alliance of four, John and we will see John walk out of TC tonight. I do not see John winning immunity. He's too much of a klutz. 
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04-10-02, 07:53 AM (EST)
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15. "Rob" |
I think it's between Kathy and Rob, and I want R. to go more.
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04-10-02, 07:53 AM (EST)
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16. "Rob" |
Alternate pick: KathyFor the first time in 3 weeks, Rob is featured in the previews but is not a focus of the previews. I think this symbolizes his loss of control. Rob is alwyas a source of priceless lines ("Do I have stupid written on my forehead?"), so it would have been easy to tweak the Robfather ads for one more week to make them fresh, but he's no longer the man in charge. His only hope is to win IC, for which he is a credible threat, but I don't think he's going to do it. There are two candidates for the True Lies, and one or both of these could work for a Rob ouster:
- John is the only one who committed to a new-Rotu final 7 with Rob. He can still be voted out 6-4 (or 6-3-1, whatever) -- John does not need to vote for Rob for him to be eliminated.
- Zoe could have actually been telling the truth last week when she said there wasn't a 4-person alliance. She had ties with Paschal and Neleh before and could be keeping the possibility of reestablishing those ties open. After all, she could increase her chances from a guaranteed 4th or better to guaranteed 3rd or better, and should feel good about the chance of winning IC over either of those two.
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04-10-02, 07:59 AM (EST)
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18. "Rob" |
This week is a real tough one. I am very divided, but I am going with the strategy I would use if I were in the game (usually a certain way to be wrong). So, even though I have a strong feeling that I am likely to be wrong, I am going with who I would boot, and I am voting off Rob.
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04-10-02, 08:01 AM (EST)
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19. "Rob" |
There really isn't that much to go on here. Everything is pretty much speculation. So I'm voting as if I were in the new maramu. I'd vote with the Rotu Four against Rob, then pick off John, Sean, Robert, Tammy and Zoe. Vee goes to the final four! (She kind of has to at this point. She's been non-existant for weeks! But then again, so has Tammy, who could be quite an immunity threat in the final 6!!
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Connie E 117 desperate attention whore postings
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04-10-02, 08:16 AM (EST)
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22. "John" |
John's story is up. I've always felt that MB engineers this "game" to the hilt, and I don't think he can resist leaving the viewers hanging until next week with three alliances of three each--so one of the old Rutus has to go, and John's been painting a bullseye on his forehead for a couple of weeks now.....
Thanks to everyone who maintains this board.....I really enjoy lurking.....
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steppingrazor42 283 desperate attention whore postings
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04-10-02, 08:51 AM (EST)
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23. "Kathy" |
Wishful thinking........Rob is starting to grow on me. Thank you DangerKitty, thank youu very mucho.
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04-10-02, 09:51 AM (EST)
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25. "Rob" |
Maybe I'm just letting my personal preferences and wishful thinking get in the way of good spoiling, but I can't shake my feeling that Rob goes. I do think that it's now or never for Rob--if he doesn't go this week, he'll probably last quite a few more weeks.Anyways, reasons for Rob this week: 1. Wanda spoiler before Ep 6 that "Rob's number is up soon". She was right about Hunter and Gina spending time at Loser Lodge. 2. Gina's comments on the Early Show. I don't buy that she was just saying nice things about Rob because she's a "nice girl"...she had no problem badmouthing Rob to the NewMoos and seemed pretty bitter towards him then. 3. No Robfather promo this week = story's up?? 4. Strategies revealed will not succeed (see Krautboy's post) 5. True Lies - John does not vote Rob out, but the rest of the Rotu 4 does. Alternate: Kathy
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04-10-02, 09:56 AM (EST)
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26. "You can't spell "Borrowed Time without R-O-B"..." |
and that's what Rob is living on right now. C'ya Rob, don't let the doah hit you on the way out.
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04-10-02, 10:08 AM (EST)
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27. "Kathy" |
I hope it is John, but I think it will be poor homeless looking Kathy.....(re: ToddJL's desciption of her)LOL
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04-10-02, 10:31 AM (EST)
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28. "Rob!" |
All my predictions have been wrong so far, but I have a feeling that's about to change.
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04-10-02, 11:10 AM (EST)
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29. "Rob" |
The booting has been male/female... so far, so I am taking that as a cue, although it is just a pattern that could be broken this week. I really hope they vote off John instead, but my hoped for boots never pan out. Also, the guy who writes the gay journal gave Rob Diva points for being shiny, so it's like the kiss of death. 
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04-10-02, 11:15 AM (EST)
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30. "KATHY" |
Rob gets immunity, and when Kathy returns to Rotu she tries to hard to rock the boat.
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04-10-02, 11:42 AM (EST)
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32. "Rob" |
I hate to see him go. He is the most interesting character to me. You have to admit, it won't be the same without him. Hopefully, I'm wrong.Alternate: Kathy Tumbler
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04-10-02, 11:58 AM (EST)
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33. "Paschal" |
In keeping with the least logical, stupidest choice. I think that he causes some unpleasantness for the combined tribe due to Gabe's demise.
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04-10-02, 12:49 PM (EST)
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35. "The Robfather" |
It should be John, Rob, or Kathy, as they are the leaders of their factions.Rob and John will vote each other out at the first opportunity. John has no problem with this, regardless of any promises he made to Rob. Why else would he try to get Tammy to throw the IC? If they did lose, he would have to vote Rob out then and 'break his word'. What he says to Rob about an alliance is BS. Rob has made no secret about the fact that he will get John the first chance he gets. So it's 4-3 with K/N/P as the deal breakers. Gina mouthed off that Rob and co. were lazy and good-for-nothings. However, we think Rob will have the chance to clean up his image during the ambassador summit with Kathy. It all depends on whether Kathy and co. believe a) their good friend Gina about 'bad Rob' or b) Rob about the conspiracy against K/N/P by the Rotu 4. I think the move they will make is to believe Gina and not trust Rob. Therefore, Rob gets the boot. If it turns out that Rob was right after all, K/N/P still can align with Sean and Vee to outnumber the Rotu 4.
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04-10-02, 01:01 PM (EST)
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36. "John" |
He's too paranoid, not that smart/crafty, and not that well liked. I realize Richard Hatch wasn't liked iether, but lightning is not going to strike twice.
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04-10-02, 01:55 PM (EST)
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39. "The nurse must go (John)" |
He's too pushy and he declared himself the leader.
I think I'll take Kathy as an alternate for the same reasons as above.
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04-10-02, 01:58 PM (EST)
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40. "Boston Robbie !!!!" |
Thank goodness he's leaving. I reach this conclusion because I buy into everything that Kraut said above, so no need to go into it again. Sean wins immunity. Kitty, I already thanked you once for the summary, but it was so good it deserved more kudos. Great job !!!!!
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04-10-02, 02:16 PM (EST)
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41. "John" |
I posted on 4/6/02 a thread titled "Could John be the next to go?" where I stated the reasons I believed John would go in this weeks episode. (I would post the link here but I am not quite sure how to do it - sorry! The post is now on page 2 though in case anyone wants to read it!) The reason I started this thread is because I thought John had a good chance of being the next to get booted and I thought the topic could be discussed in places other than "Handicapping E7" etc. Thank you to TeamJoisey, Spidey and samboohoo for at least responding to my thread!
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04-10-02, 02:24 PM (EST)
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42. "Stupid Rob" |
Too strong of a competitor!! Bye Villian!
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04-10-02, 02:29 PM (EST)
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43. "John" |
For those who want the long version.Here’s the reasoning in a nutshell:
Tribal politics make it very difficult for John to honor his “pact” with Rob and not get burned. Regardless, Rob will target John. He will try to recruit Kathy to even the odds a little. Kathy will go to John, et al. and confront them about Rob’s allegation. They will lie. Kathy will side with Rob, not out of trust, but out of a need to level the playing field. Neleh and Paschal are the wild cards. Their votes will decide who goes. Why do I think they vote John? Spoilers, IMO, point to Rob & Kathy staying. Using the correct application of the Eyemail Theory, Rob is safe. (Don’t get me started on that again.) And I’m giving more credence to the Kathy weight loss rumor than the “friend of a friend” rumor that has her going April 11. To my knowledge there are no spoilers that suggest John is staying around. Therefore, John goes. DK, you have crafted yet another legendary summary. Thanks for all the belly laughs.  Fester 
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04-10-02, 02:32 PM (EST)
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44. "John" |
This is probably one of the more harder choices all year and there is no uncertainty as to which tribe wins IC as there is the merge. All members but the individual IC winner are fair game. John's alliance is not as strong as he believes it is. Rob will win IC and will get enough support to oust John.
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04-10-02, 02:32 PM (EST)
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45. "Rob" |
The tribe ... will have spoken
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04-10-02, 02:41 PM (EST)
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46. "John" |
Voting w/ my heart.
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04-10-02, 03:40 PM (EST)
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48. "Votes to Here...." |
LAST EDITED ON 04-10-02 AT 04:36 PM (EST)This is post #48, counting 46 votes and 1 previous tally.
We still have a pretty close 3 way race to the top....I'm liking the vote thread this week ^-^ Rob ........20
John .......13
Kathy ......10
Neleh ...... 1
Paschal .... 1
Sean ....... 1 Everyone else is currently UTR. EDIT: lol sleeeve, you violator you ;) ----------------------------------------
Now let us never speak of S3 again. Gabriel: "Alright, John go straight! Straight!" - Um, Gabe?
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04-10-02, 03:42 PM (EST)
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49. "John" |
I have been all over the radar on this one this week.My first inkling was Rob, but I think he is being edited for at least a few more eps. He wins IC or everyone else is just plain dumb. He stays. Then it was Kathy. But I am leaving towards picking weight loss spoiler over 4/11 one. She IS really annoying though... Several posters here convince me John is as good a guess as any. I think when he dropped trou in celebration of his power last week, he story arc was complete, except for the downfall. Tammy and Zoe are obviously not too fond of John and have a different game strategy. One or both of them could easily team up with N/P/K and drop a hint to R/S/V without actually aligning with them. Viola! John gone, now pick off R/S/V. Hey, I can dream, can't I?
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04-10-02, 03:43 PM (EST)
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50. "Vote Totals So Far" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-10-02 AT 03:46 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 04-10-02 AT 03:45 PM (EST) Well... it's still early, but it appears that Rob is leading this week's vote. There's a tight race for second between John and Kathy, although all current members of Maraamu have a vote. A reminder to all posting vote tallies... please include this line, updated accordingly in each vote total: This is post #50 summarizing 47 votes and 3 tallies. Rob - 20
John - 14
Kathy - 10
Neleh - 1
Paschal - 1
Sean - 1 EDITED TO ADD: Apparently Kokoro and I were on the same wavelength... good thing I posted, otherwise we wouldn't have known about that other vote for John for another 20 posts or so  .
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04-10-02, 04:06 PM (EST)
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51. "Rob" |
Once again, the painfully obvious seems the best bet
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04-10-02, 04:12 PM (EST)
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52. "Kathy" |
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04-10-02, 04:17 PM (EST)
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53. "Kathy" |
I believe Kathy goes for several reasons. First, the several semi-spoilers out there: she's already lost a lot of weight, and this is 4/11. Also, logically, I think she makes the most sense. I think that the Rob/John story arc is not yet completed, although eventually I think both of them will self-destruct. A Kathy ouster will set in place the series of events needed to have that occur.Also, strategically, I think that John will not want to risk having her on the Jury--she and the other NewMoos would seem more likely angered at HIM by their being demoted to the bottom of the Rotu totem pole, whereas John could curry favor with the OldMoos by carrying them a little farther into the game, thus securing more votes among the jury pool. I also think that initially, Gina's smack-talking about the oldMoos will interfere with any alliance building between K/N/P and the Robfather alliance, and it will take the loss of a NewMoo at the hands of the Rotu 4 to convince N/P that they need to join with the Robfather to take John down. But that's next week, isn't it?
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04-10-02, 06:50 PM (EST)
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59. "KaThY" |
I beleive the spoilers of post-merge, i think John or Rob will win the IC, and that wont help her chances at all.
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04-10-02, 08:42 PM (EST)
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62. "John" |
John's alliance is mad at him for telling Rob the truth and making Zoe look like a fool. They realize he is not helping them and, in fact, is going to take them down with him. So they ditch him. Or I could be wrong like I am every week.
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63. "Sean" |
I pick Sean based on Jeff Varner's boot pick for Ep. 7.
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04-10-02, 08:55 PM (EST)
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64. "John" |
No special reason, just women's intuition....
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04-10-02, 09:01 PM (EST)
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65. "Rob" |
The reasons for my pick are summed up nicely by Krautboy in this thread and NightScribe in the SOTS.Another quote that has been tossed around some is by Paschal's wife who said Paschal played the game with dignity. How exactly does one play Survivor with dignity? One would keep his word, tell the truth, play fair, even if it makes winning more difficult. As a judge, Paschal has a public image to unhold; a reputation to protect. I believe he would have a hard time scheming, lying, or really "playing the game to win." So, I believe Paschal will remain loyal to his original Rotu, as he has done so far, and will NOT vote for John. Kathy and Rob may form an alliance and she may well cast her vote in John's direction, but Paschal, along with Neleh, are ROTU and will vote for Rob. Rob's constant confessional threats about getting John remind me so much of Kelly and her Lex rants, or Lindsey and her Frank rants, and Jerri and her Keith rants, etc....A pattern in the editting, perhaps??? Additionally, I don't believe John's storyline is complete and won't be until he is taken down by his own alliance. Of course, that could happen this week but it doesn't seem likely. It is getting harder to ignore the parallels between John and Rich - naked, gay guy, the self-proclaimed leader of his tribe, trying to scheme his way to victory. The twist is that this time it doesn't work. But to have him taken out by a rag-tag group of misfits? How uninspired. But taken out by his own? Those that have proclaimed their loyalty and "have his back?" How perfect!
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04-10-02, 10:19 PM (EST)
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68. "Neleh" |
Argggghhhh!!!Who'll go this week? Kathy - it's 4/11. No, that's unreliable. Rob - 'True Lies', John doesn't vote for him, but everyone else does. No, Zoe has the same type of rationalization with Kathy. Kathy - 'True Lies', Zoe this time. No, forgot about the weight loss spoilers. Rob - No Robfather previews this week, his story is done. No, that could be misdirection or some legal infringement thing. Kathy - Rob wins immunity, Sean is safe because of the call home spoiler, Kathy must go. No, she hasn't been profiled. Rob - He's been profiled. No wait, we MIGHT have one more booted without being profiled. It MUST be John!! - He pisses off K/N/P, and the ambassadors get together to work out naked-boy's demise. No, K/N/P can't hook up with S/R/V so soon after Gina's conditioning. *Sigh* Ya got me . . . Wait - I read Cowboyroo's vote and post above and go 'ooOOOOoooo' Neleh. *smile* I like it. Cowboyroo, you're not the only one. It's you and me bro. Granvil
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04-10-02, 10:37 PM (EST)
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69. "Rob" |
Wow, it looks like all the theories came out to play this week. Well, since I haven't been spoiling, I'll try to learn from my mistakes in S3, when I said after E8 that Frank, Brandon and Kim P. had to be the next three booted -- but then picked Frank to be booted in E9 (it was Brandon), Kim P. to be booted in E10 (it was Frank), and then LEX to be booted in E11 (it was Kim P.). Ouch.After E5, I said that the next two to be booted had to be Gina and Rob. Gina went in E6, as I picked. So ... I'll stick with Rob to go in E7. But, before I stop, I just want to make one point: don't think about who you WANT to see booted. Instead, think about what the contestants see. Look, for all the misdirection, all of the Old Rotu on Maraamu voted to boot Gina over Kathy (even though I think most of us liked Gina better -- and she never peed on anyone!). Why wouldn't they vote to boot the person most likely to win individual challenges, as he showed in the last RC race -- the Robfather? Would you trust Rob after what Gina told you about his actions pre-twist? Oh, and great summary, dangerkitty! And all of the other summaries (TAR2, Combat Missions) have been great as well. Please read them all and tell the writers how much you liked them!
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04-10-02, 11:52 PM (EST)
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70. "Hey John..." |
...it's time for you to go!
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04-11-02, 00:38 AM (EST)
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71. "Kathy" |
I don't know if people do read other people's reasonings but I'm going to provide mine anyway. Hopefully this will be as good as my Hunter boot pick and my Maraamu controversy reward pick last week. Anyway, I'm basing my boot pick with the "outside spoilers" as opposed to the "most logical" theory boot pick because most Survivors don't seem to play the game as well as we think they should.How I came to the conclusion of a Kathy boot: 1) The title of ep. 8, "Jury's Out", gave me the feeling that Paschal is going to get the boot in this episode. However, my gut feeling was not substianted and is best considered as accurate as Lex's gut. Then the post about the title of episode 9 came out and it was "Two Peas of the Same Pod". I think most people will agree with me that this would point towards a focus on Neleh (Sweetpea), with her possibly becoming the episode's bootee. To me, these two titles are too much of a coincidence to be treated lightly. One title could be considered a gut feeling but two titles would be considered a more valid assumption. Furthermore, this season's episode titles seem to have major spoiler value if someone is highlighted-- "Nacho Mama", "The Underdog", etc. If someone is highlighted in the episode title, it usually doesn't bode well for them. And hasn't anyone noticed how Paschal and Neleh have gotten so much face time recently? If Paschal and Neleh were to get the boot in episode 8 and 9, that would mean that the New Maraamu would be the first to be pagonged off, hence the pagonging of their leader first, Kathy. 2) Hmmm.... if Paschal and Neleh were to get the boot in episode 8 and 9, how logical would that be? Wouldn't these two people align with Rob, et al? How could they let themselves get pagonged and not do anything about it? Then it struck me:
"two unlikely castaways formed an alliance". Vee is gonna pull a Brandon! She's going to deflect to Rotu 4 and we'll possibly have the first tie vote of the season if New Mara were to align with Rob and Sean. Yes, I know it's a dumb move (much dumber than Brandon's coz at least he had the Samburu final 4 reason and she had none) but everyone here knows that the Survivors aren't exactly the smartest people (the hot sun must have fried their brains).
Anyway, with regards to the game's editing direction, this will make a lot of sense. It was really obvious in episode 6 that Vee had been distancing herself from Rob and Sean. This HAS GOT BE something that will relate to the storyline. I doubt MB will show this incident if there was nothing more to it and is unrelated to the game. He is preparing his viewers for Vee's defection to Rotu 4 so it will not seem to have came out from nowhere. Cut to Rob saying, "I don't trust Vee" and I know that there is some sort of foreshadowing going on. Furthermore, all the bootees seemed to have made 'odd Vee comments' in all of their interviews. I think most of you will agree that Vee was not spoken in the same kind of tone as the other Old Maraamus by all of the bootees. Pat also seemed disappointed with Vee perhaps not only because of her own boot but also because Pat thought about Vee as more than someone who would backstab her own alliance. 3) All of the bootee frontrunners (John, Rob, and even Kathy) don't have good outside spoiler news:
i) John's cruise ship story doesn't match with the cruise layout.
ii) Gina's description about Rob being a nice guy outside the game is vague and does not really point to a Rob boot. Besides, most bootees are usually very guarded in their interviews so this spoiler news should be taken with a grain of salt.
iii) The news for a Kathy boot came from a spoiler poster, Ethanfan, from another site. Although this smells of Uncle Cameraman, I will still give more credit to this one because apparently this poster is pretty respected and might be the Loree of the other site (kudos to Loree about finding out about the stupid comment made by Gabe that led to his boot). 4) Furthermore, Loree had said that according to her sources from the Belly Bar that Sean frequents, Sean made it pretty far in the game (a possible final 6). How could Sean be part of the final 6 if Rob is booted this episode and Sean is likely to be next as he's part of Rob's alliance? In exchange for Vee as an ally, Mr. Lex-Honesty of S4, John, will stick with his final 7 promise of Rotu 4 and S/R/V. 5) Other spoilers: Zoe also said that she did VERY well in the game. I definitely believe her judging by the amount of face time she had gotten so far. She and Robert have gotten very little face time and I don't think we'd have seen much of them in two episodes if we assume that they'd be out in episode 9 and 10-- assuming the people with more face time (John and Tammy) were to get the boot first. They have got to last longer than two more episodes hence indicating that Rotu 4 would actually go far. A Tammy boot in episode 8 is also weird as it had nothing to do with that episode's title. "Two Peas of the Same Pod" and Tammy is as related as George Bush is to Albert Einstein. Paschal and Neleh, on the other hand, have had a lot of face time recently. Their story is over versus Robert and Zoe whose stories have yet to begin. 6) To answer those critics who based their bootee on the CBS EyeMail: I was at first swayed to the Rob boot because if CBS were to follow previous Survivor series, they would profile all the juries and as of now, they have yet to profile Kathy and John. Many posters doubt that CBS will "go crazy" on us by not doing the EyeMail for one week and I did agree with it. However as I thought about it some more, it struck me that this season's Survivor will not have the regular weekly time slots as the previous series! The finale will be shown on Sunday of the same week and thus the EyeMail would still cover all of the juries if there is only one weekly EyeMail! 7) To wrap things up: Kathy heard from the others that she'd be the next bootee and went to Zoe to ask her if it's true. Zoe (last week's liar) assured her that wasn't so which would make it a "True Lie" that resulted in Kathy's boot. You'll be missed by me, Miss Kathy... PS: I hope my Kathy boot doesn't come true as it would result in the boring pagonging by the most dominant alliance.
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04-11-02, 02:26 AM (EST)
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73. "ROB....." |
Some of many reasons are:(1) Because several (ah, actually more than several) people I respect for their great spoiling abilities think RobFudder gets the boot this week.
In fact, two such persons have already voted above.
(Hi Ya, Krautboy & AyaK --- *blows kisses*). (2) Because it would make me very happy to see Rob severely attacked by a flock of wild chickens; but I'll settle for his BOOT out of the game. (3) Because for this Episode only Rob gets the best "worst finishing position on the show" --- making it to the Merge but not making it on the Jury!! (4) Because Rob is so busy trash-talking and working angles he never stopped to think that even if he reached the final two....nobody would vote FOR him. DUH!! Dalton
PS. Dangerkitty's Summary was a wonder and a delight!! WTG Babe.
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04-11-02, 02:27 AM (EST)
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74. "John" |
To scared to vote the last couple of times but, this time, feeling a little more confidence. Everything John has said will crumble. And, he will be the last non-profiled boot before the jury Ep.s.
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04-11-02, 02:41 AM (EST)
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75. "Rob" |
Last week I thought I'd vote for Gina, and ended up voting Rob. This week I thought I was going to vote Kathy, but I'm going with Rob again. Hopefully this doesn't mean he stays.
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04-11-02, 02:53 AM (EST)
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76. "Rob" |
Krautboy's logic and Nightscribe's storyline argument get my vote. So Rob it is.
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04-11-02, 03:36 AM (EST)
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77. "Rob" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-02 AT 04:15 AM (EST)Because of Jizzy's kewl picture of Rob with almost a double chin... Well no, I was picking him anyway, but I sure liked the pic. Like AyaK, I picked Rob or Gina to go last time, in fact I picked Rob to go in Ep 7 3 episodes ago, and waffling is a bad thing in which I overly indulge. I'm not saying the Kathy spoilers don't have me wanting to waffle, because they do command my respect, but, gotta pick one. Rest of my reasoning: 1. What Krautboy said. 2. What AyaK said, that if the two boots are clear, but not the order, don't move on to the third possiblity but trust that the second boot in the pattern materializes.
First we are pointed at Rob or Gina, then Rob or Kathy. The logical third boot would be Kathy. Here the question is which one is on the jury and which not. 3. Weight loss--no Rob spoilers, big loss in Kathy. Pre-jury bootees are eating themselves into gaining back poundage quickly, per Sarah, Gabe, and Gina. 4. Hunter/Kathy spoiler is vague and Gina could be the link between them, easily. 5. Gina's Rob's a nice guy "off the island" may refer to the fact that the first seven will leave the island for New Z./Australia very shortly after this TC, so she really will hang with the next bootee primarily off the island. 6. Rob is not the star of the show; he's the Jeff Varner, milk him for entertainment value as long as he lasts. See my post on his story arc on SOTS, FWIW:
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/2571.shtml#16 7. The new "Sneak Peek" asks straight out if kathy will be the next to go, and that's never happened, pointing so blatantly at the real bootee. (Although there's always a first.) 8. Misdirection away from Rob: shown in less danger this week than the last two (new plan possibility) and many favor him to win IC. We are being pushed to look not only at Kathy and John, but Paschal, Nelia, Sean, Zoe. Last week we were shown Rob's danger to take our mind's off Gina's vulnerability. 9. The old standby, "Friends": every one of the other bootees distinguishes between the real Rob and Rob's persona/strategy, even if he was instrumental in getting them tossed--especially Gina, who didn't interact with him in the game after Rob booted Hunter and left her twisting in the wind. 10. Nothing to see here, jumping straight to 11. What Dalton said! 
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I spent an hour or more replying to DK's summary--that's how much it inspired me. I am still trying to catch up on the summaries before that, cause IRL got real busy, but kudos to all you writers! It's a hard task to have to deliver FUNNY on demand.
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04-11-02, 08:44 AM (EST)
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79. "Kathy" |
Rob needs more than one more show to be truly villainous. Plus...the best character always gets voted out after the recap (Jerri!!!).
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04-11-02, 08:53 AM (EST)
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80. "John!" |
I agree with Spidey, his story is complete. He's to paranode.
I wanted to say Sean because of Jeff Varner picking him to be number 7. But just heard Gina on radio and she still dislikes Sean, and she said that at LL the losers did things together as a group after they were booted. Again she said she wasn't happy with Rob in the game either.
As for her not knowing about John being a nurse I don't find that significant. John probably locked himself in a room after his boot afraid that Gabe or the sea eurchins would get him.
I think he's made to many promises and they are going to come back and bite him. I say T/Z/General take Pascal and Neleh to the fianal 5. Although I would rather take Boston Rob to the final 2 knowing that I could beat him. I wouldn't want JOhn he's to attached to himself, publicly.
1.He's proclaimed himself as the leader. That's a clear sign that he won't last long. 2.He can't keep a secret. ( Doesn't appear to keep his allaninces secret.) 3.His team seems unwilling to throw challenges for him. That speaks volumes. 4.He turned on his own Rotu before getting rid of one of the new rotu. 5. He's useless when it comes to gathering food and rowing a boat to win food. (Have they caught anything in the trap?) 6. He told his starving tribemates that they didn't want to win the picnic. 7. He's sure to do one thing tonight and seal his fate to go in 7th. (He won't win immunity beacause he is accident prone.) 8. MB has to get him out before he has an other accident and files a workers comp. claim. hrc2u
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81. ""The" Robfather" |
It was fun while it lasted, but all good things come to an end, like the snow out here in the woods. I have a hard time believing the cruise ship spoiler. Kathy has been shown too promintly in the previews to be the bootee, and it just sounds like Gina pulled a whooops on Rosie. Maybe, just maybe for a millisecond she forgot Johns name, or maybe they had very very little contact at all.
John will be my alternate pick to go, which would then put a little credence in the cruise ship spoiler. bn
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83. "Rob (Da Robfodder)" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-02 AT 10:28 AM (EST)There were some excellent theories for Kathy and John, and I strongly considered them. But I think it's Rob for many reasons: 1. What Krautboy, AyaK, OFG, Dalton said (and others, but I'm trying to kiss up to these guys ). And all major theories hold up with a Robfodder boot. In addition: 2. It's not so much Gina's interviews, but ALL the bootees' interviews that Rob is a "teddy bear" (to quote one of them, do I need a footnote here, AyaK? ) I do believe Rob is a good guy outside the game, and the best place to show that side of him is Loser Lodge. 3. The "unlikely alliance": When looking at the names, we've seen Vee being discussed negatively by Rob and Sean. John doesn't appear to be as much a part of the Rotu 4 as he THINKS he is. Paschal and Neleh may have kept Kathy over Gina, but I don't assume that makes a strong alliance. So I suspect that See-BS's idea of an "unlikely alliance" involves Vee, John and/or Kathy, (possibly J/K, who were painted previously as antagonists to each other). I also don't see Paschal and Neleh forming a bond with the Robfadder's alliance after listening to Gina for several previous days. Rob really needs Vee and he needs Kathy, but likely doesn't have them. 4. I haven't seen this discussed very much, if at all, but: Rob was very open and candid last week about the alliances and discussing them. The preview showed him again to be openly attempting to discuss the alliances, and in a hostile, aggressive manner. I understand his strategy (to "show up" the Rotu alliance and spread seeds of doubt, and therefore division), but as we saw with Peter, talking so openly about this particular subject is bound to make you a target. When Peter tried to discuss it, not only did Gina break him off hard, but he was waxed easily despite being far from the weakest (or laziest) player. I think the same thing will happen to Rob here. Last, but not least: Will OFG change her vote at the last minute AGAIN?!?! Do I perceive a pattern here, hmmmm?!?! Dangerkitty, come on in to Summary Lodge. A scratching post (replete with fluffypillows) has been set up for you next to the Curling Rink. Take in some of our excellent catnip, curl up by the fire, and purrrr away at the thought of a summary WELL DONE. *** Contradictions don't exist. If you are faced with a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong. -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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04-11-02, 09:53 AM (EST)
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84. "Kathy" |
Of the unholy trinity(Kathy, Rob, John), she is the one with the least amount of well-sounded speculation. So I think it is just appropiate that she is selected to bless those unfortunate souls in Loser Lodge with her presence.
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87. "Rob!!!" |
I think his time has come. My guess is Vee has decided to team up with the Rotu's and Rob is out of here.
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04-11-02, 10:41 AM (EST)
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88. "Rob" |
When the tribes merge, they tend to vote out the person who poses the biggest threat. Rob is definitely the biggest threat right now..
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91. "Rob" |
Reasons? Who needs reasons? Okay, well, other people have already given very good ones for Rob, so Rob it is.
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92. "Rob" |
It's the Kiss of this death for this paisan wanna be. DangerKitty, that was a purrrrrrrfect summary, simply hilarious.
God Bless America
There are two types of people, predators and prey, and the sound you hear is the sharpening of my claws.
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04-11-02, 11:37 AM (EST)
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93. "Rob" |
See Krautboy's reasoning.
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04-11-02, 11:39 AM (EST)
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94. "Rob " |
The Robfadder is going to get rubbed out this week unless he can pull off immunity. Kathy as an alternate. See my reasons in SOTS.
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95. "Rob..." |
Immunity would be the only thing that could save him this week, I believe. Since NewMu like Gina and Gina likely told them all about how much she disliked S/V/R, I think that it will not be tough for John and Company to get N/K/P to vote along with them to get out the OldMu's. Since Rob seems to be John's biggest threat I would have to think that he is the first to go.
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04-11-02, 11:46 AM (EST)
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96. "Rob" |
The vidcap with John and the torch-snuffer bothers me, but I have to believe da Robfadduh's story is done.SeeBS presented Kathy to us in the so-called "Sneak Peek" practically wrapped up with a pretty ribbon--"Will she get the boot?" They just don't have a history of telling us outright who the bootee is; with RafkikiLinda, we got that horrible "Thaaaaaaank YOOOOU!" promo as a gimme, but I don't believe they SAID she would go. (BTW--I noticed when I reloaded that email, the accompanying text has already CHANGED to something more generic: Don’t miss a mysterious night of SURVIVOR filled with lies, secret quests and hostile confrontations! instead of the previous lengthy paragraph centering on Kathy as the possible boot. . .) Also, I think John is too smart about the game to let the new Maras realize (for certain) that they're next; for him to target Kathy NOW would signal to Paschal and Neleh that they need to join up with the slackers to trump John's supposed control. . . I think he's going to get rid of his main competition NOW, while he still can. Of course, Dalton had to plant a seed of doubt by telling me Rob & John could get involved in such a battle that they catch someone totally UNlikely in the crossfire. . . but by golly--I see SHE voted for Rob, as well! Can Dalton, OFG, Krautboy, munson, and AK ALL be wrong? I doubt it. I was sure a week ago that it would be Rob, I wavered a bit as this week developed, but having such stellar Spoilers reinforce my GUT is good enough for me. GT
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04-11-02, 12:26 PM (EST)
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99. "Rob, with Kathy on his heels..." |
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TheWanderer 267 desperate attention whore postings
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04-11-02, 12:38 PM (EST)
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101. "Rob" |
1) His story is done.
2) If P/N/K voted out Gina, why would anyone think they would hesitate in "pagonging" the old Mu, especially after Gina told P/N/K all about R/S/V ?
3) Rob's only chance at staying this week is winning IC
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volmel 362 desperate attention whore postings
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04-11-02, 12:44 PM (EST)
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103. "Rob" |
Because Gina and Patricia like him. They really like him.
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04-11-02, 01:00 PM (EST)
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105. "Rob" |
As annoying as Kathy can be, it doesn't hold a candle to Rob's confrontational attitude of late. John said it -- he's dangerous, and if the rest of them don't know that by now, then they deserve to lose. Rob is the threat, Kathy is the thorn.Also, weight loss spoilers have been the most reliable of any so far (it's how I picked Tom to go F4). Kathy was by no means fat when she arrived on the island, so to lose 25/30 lbs, she would have had to stay quite a while, with little time on the jury to gain back the weight. My storyline and editing speculation which points to a reunited Rotu for a Rob ouster can be found on the SOTS thread. Finally, I just don't believe the Ethanfan spoiler. I wouldn't even give it the title of spoiler because it's more like a rumor. I agree that John's empire will fall, but not just yet. RC: Rob/Rotu
IC: Kathy
Boot: Rob
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04-11-02, 02:02 PM (EST)
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107. "SEAN" |
cant believe I am going with this, have been waffling between Rob and Kathy. But as with John, they all have too much face/name time in previews and in print describing this upcoming episode. And after reading Shakes, and seeing the cbs vid on Seans feeling down.. this where I am standing.. well at least this hour.
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lionsroar 157 desperate attention whore postings
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04-11-02, 02:40 PM (EST)
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108. "Rob" |
I have to stick with all the Rob spoilers..the Robfathers days are numbered
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04-11-02, 02:42 PM (EST)
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109. "Robfather" |
Its toime for the robfather to go
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04-11-02, 02:50 PM (EST)
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110. "Rob-a-lob-a-ding-dong" |
Thanks all for the insight.
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04-11-02, 03:14 PM (EST)
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112. "Rob " |
AyaK, OFG, and especially Krautboy have already outlined all of the spoiler reasons that Rob will get voted off this week... so I won't mention those... instead, I'd like to briefly point out strategy:We have two alliances of three, and an alliance of four. The wisest thing for either alliance of three to do is to vote WITH the four this week, against the other alliance of three, and then form an alliance of 5 to take out the Rotu four. At that point, with 3-2 in your five-person alliance, you can narrow it down to 3, and finally the last IC determines the final two among your group. Since we know from the previews that Rob will try to align with the other 3 (one Ep too early), and I'd guess that the Rotu four will find out about it, they will probably target Rob, and it would be in K/P/N's best interest to vote out Rob (the leader of the Maraamu misfits) and then align with Sean and Vee to take out John next week. ...the reason I'm posting all this here, instead of elsewhere on the board to discuss??? Because K/N/P aren't thinking strategically, so this will never happen... but it's fun to imagine.
You never know what might be up my sleeeve...
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04-11-02, 04:00 PM (EST)
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113. "Rob " |
Stupid is as Stupid is.
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04-11-02, 04:20 PM (EST)
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116. "Rob" |
I agree with Krautboy, AyaK, OFG, and sleeeve. Logically, I think one or two days is too little time to persaude at least Pappy and Neleh that Rob and Sean are good guys to be trusted and John isn't. That means John is safe. I also think John is smart enough to know that targeting Kathy would cause Pappy and Neleh to run to Rob and Sean in E9 and boot him then. While Rob could screw things up by winning immunity, he showed with the fish that his willpower isn't THAT strong. With enough other people nervous enough about their fates to want to win (Sean, Kathy, and John), I'm betting he doesn't. Throw in a number of spoilers pointing to him, and I'm confident enough to not even pick an alternate.
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04-11-02, 04:49 PM (EST)
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120. "Rob" |
Spoilers, spoilers, we got too many spoilers! Why can't we knock off two or three at once, huh?I picked through the spoilers, and I'm going with Rob. I would have thought Kathy, but things took a turn from that, plus I'm looking for her to pull an IC win. And I must admit - can't say I'd be sorry to see him go... 
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04-11-02, 04:55 PM (EST)
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121. "Kathy" |
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04-11-02, 04:55 PM (EST)
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122. "Rob" |
I've changed my mind every few minutes, but as of right now - I'm voting for Rob.
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04-11-02, 05:02 PM (EST)
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123. "Rob" |
alt. Sean
WTG DK!
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04-11-02, 05:03 PM (EST)
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124. "Rob" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-02 AT 05:10 PM (EST)Rob walks with 5 votes. John gets 4. Sean gets one. Kathy gets immunity. If Rob wins immunity, a gay-boy from Omaha will be fighting back tears as Probst snuffs his torchy. Rob votes for John because he does not like him, considers him full of himself, and a threat as leader of a voting block. Sean votes for John because he votes with Rob so far, and also dislikes John's personality. Vee votes for Sean. She may still be unaffiliated and thinking she just wants to cast her vote to a person who has a chillin', angry attitude. Neleh votes for whomever Paschal votes for. Paschal votes for Rob. He hears about Gabe, and what the Rotu 4 are up to, but takes it with a grain of salt. Maybe John shmoozes a bit. Instead, Paschal does not like the stirring animosity and sees Rob and Sean as integral to the confrontations. He sees Rob as the leader of those two. Kathy votes for John. Her feelings are hurt, she blames him. She is a misfit and relates to Rob's street saavy, she also feels less family-like to the old Rotus. John votes for Rob because he fears his leadership threat, fears his aptitude in upcoming challenges, and doesn't like his condescending homphobia. Tammy votes for John! She does not like him and will hurry to join an informal voting block to throw him to the wolves. She won't reveal her vote or strategy to her tribemates. Robert votes for Rob, he can sense that Rob thinks he has a small weiner, and since the general acts like he does, he will feel threatened and vote for Rob, although he really is just trying to stay in the Rotu 4 for now, not realizing yet that Tammy has broken ranks. Zoe votes for Rob. He made her look bad, feel bad, embarrassed her, and is a target of the "leader" of the Rotu 4, which she still wants united. I knew I hated the way Zoe comes across for more than the fact that she is kind of creepy; her vote sends the straight-tawkin playa on a wok a shame. Too bad; I'll miss comments like: About Peter: "He's a fruit loop." About Gabe: "Probably thinks he's smahtah than he is." John: "A big-time queeeya." The general: "Wants everyone to know he's tough, ...small sausage." Tammy: He likes her but respects the engaged aspect, and my favorite, Zoe: "Zoe? Come awwwnnn..." You said it all. Goodbye Mr Mariano, life is not fair.
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04-11-02, 05:19 PM (EST)
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126. "rob" |
I am really hoping it is not Rob because I have really enjoyed him in the game. However, I think that all of the vidcaps are leading up to some kind of showdown between Rob and John. I did go back and forth between Rob and John, but I think untimately Rob will go because the Old and New Moo won't team up! Which would be the smart thing to do, but I don't think it is going to happen. The vidcaps would have you believe a possible alliance between Rob and Kathy, but I think it is a Redherring. I think Sean will win IC this week. Alternate pick: John Thanks for the great summary dangerkitty! 
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04-11-02, 05:30 PM (EST)
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127. "Robfaddah" |
"What everybody else said"
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04-11-02, 05:31 PM (EST)
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128. "Kathy" |
Only because, for some inexplicable reason, I believe the "Kathy goes 4-11" spoiler.
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04-11-02, 05:34 PM (EST)
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129. "RE: SurvivorBlows Tribe, It's Time to Vote!" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-02 AT 05:35 PM (EST)Part of me wants to vote John, but that's just wishful thinking I'm afraid. DK - awesome summary as always! You always amaze me! edited to add I'm voting for Rob by the way. ACK - I suck!
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04-11-02, 05:38 PM (EST)
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130. "Vote Tally to This Point" |
LAST EDITED ON 04-11-02 AT 05:44 PM (EST)As we head for the wire, Rob is running away with it, John is second, and Kathy is a close third. This is post #130 summarizing 123 votes and 6 tallies.
Rob - 64
John - 28
Kathy - 21
Sean - 6
Neleh - 2
Paschal - 1
Tammy - 1 Edited to correct the post number. Doh! Beware the Bear!
Thanks IceCat!
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04-11-02, 05:41 PM (EST)
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132. "RE: Sean" |
unless he wins immunity, then Rob
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04-11-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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135. "Rob" |
Mainly based on the comments of Gina and Hunter in that he gets a chance at loser lodge to redeem himself.
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04-11-02, 06:18 PM (EST)
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140. "Rob" |
It just makes sense
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04-11-02, 06:54 PM (EST)
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143. "Rob" |
It would be more fun if he made the jury, but his room is booked at the Loser Lodge.
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04-11-02, 07:00 PM (EST)
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146. "John" |
New moos and old moos have to band together (at least briefly) to have any chance. Kathy wins IC, John is the obvious choice.
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04-11-02, 07:43 PM (EST)
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149. "Rob " |
What, did you really think I was going to say Sean?
I enjoyed my Sean theory for awhile, but after reading that SNews was sticking with their Sean spoilers I decided that the spoiler evidence against Sean going was too much to overlook in favor of the theory that Rob would win immunity because he needs it the most.
The reasons for Rob are well known....and I've written too much already today to list them all.
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04-11-02, 07:50 PM (EST)
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151. "Rob" |
Based on previous messages.
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04-11-02, 08:02 PM (EST)
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152. "Sean" |
...I'm late!!
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