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"Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. "
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"Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5594933/I have always been fascinated by this story. For the life of me, I cannot imagine a woman being attracted to a 12 or 13-year-old boy???????????????????????????????????????????????????. Do you'll think that she is sick or "in love"?? Deonna
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08-04-04, 04:26 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
Which is very common in these cases, some may have to spend some time in conditional jail time, but by and large child sex offenders are given probation and no contact orders as they GENERALLY are lower risk to reoffend.
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08-04-04, 05:27 PM (EST)
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21. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
nope 12-13% recidivism for all sex offenders. Incest offenders are around 3-4%,
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08-04-04, 04:08 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
What she did was so wrong and I agree with others who say she got off too easy.
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08-04-04, 04:09 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-04 AT 04:17 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-04-04 AT 04:13 PM (EST) I believe she is no more sick than a man who has sex with a 12-13 year old female. It's sexually deviant, but by no means something she'd be diagnosed with. In fact I wonder if the offense was not the result OF a mental health issue. The fact that she went back to the boy after she had been sentenced the first time probably has more to do with some sort of attachment with having conceived a child with him, than actually being with him, but it's not unheard of.
The mind of a sex offender is a very interesting thing. In Wisconsin my sentencing recommendation would have been 5-7 years prison followed by 2-3 years extended supervision (parole) eta: I also believe in mandatory minimums for sex offenders, in general the treatment that is provided--that does any good--is done in a confined setting where they live, breathe, eat, sleep treatment, rather than in the community where there are other life stressors.
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30. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-04 AT 08:50 PM (EST)LAST EDITED ON 08-04-04 AT 08:35 PM (EST) I am very sorry to hear that. I hope that in this day and age girls coming up have enough support to report things of this nature. They should be encouraged by their teachers and parents to report such acts. By the way the statute of limitations in Louisiana must be very long or unlimited for this type of case.. I know of a family where two girls were raped by their father as children. Their mother died many years later in 2002 and then they went to the police to report they were raped by their dad about 20 years earlier. Apparently the mom knew what her husband had done and talked the girls into being quiet about it while she was alive. He was arrested, he went to trial and was convicted of rape. This was several years ago and he is still in jail. I did hear of one state however that did overturn a similar case because there was too much time between the act and the turning in of the individual. THe man was a nephew of my mother by her first husband, so I know the details of the story. He is probably in his 60s now and the daughters are in their late 30s or early 40s 
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08-04-04, 04:11 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
Sick.This coming from: a teacher, a mom, a grown-up, ewwwwww Her elevator has a short circuit.
...as does his...I mean, he's 21 now and "still loves her" Have I said Ick yet?
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08-04-04, 04:28 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
She does seem to be completely obsessed with him. Interestingly, the news I saw last night said that the boy wasn't sure if he wanted to have anything further to do with her. I hope for his sake he keeps all contact to a minimum. Still, there are the 2 kids. It's a difficult situation. I'm glad his mother has custody.
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08-04-04, 05:07 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
This is an intriguing topic for me. I think she is both. It's weird to be in love with a 12 year old, but I know of several teachers who are married to EX-students they began seeing after the students graduated high school. She is definitely in love with Vili. I just saw Vili saying he still loves her, too, although he's not sure what kind of relationship he wants. He is fighting the court so that the two of them can see each other.See, it was a lot simpler back when he was 12 and she was 35. Now he is 21 and she is 44. If their relationship was just starting now, it would be perfectly legal and debatably perfectly acceptable. I think they should be allowed to reunite, honestly. It's also hard to say if males and females should be treated equally, because males tend to use their masculinity to overpower the young girl one way or another. With a female, is it the same? I think it's really questionable. Our whole society sends conflicting messages. On one hand we present hypersexualized images of young people, on the other we try to deny their sexuality. Tricky, messy stuff.
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08-04-04, 05:30 PM (EST)
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22. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
On my caseload, not only would she not be allowed to see, talk or otherwise contact him, but nor would she be allowed any contact with her children, until we had all the players involved in counseling and would move ahead as the collective group of interested parties thought best.
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08-05-04, 01:53 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
I think it says a lot about what a crummy teacher she was that Vili is currently working on getting his GED.
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25. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
It's funny you should bring up the question of love v. sickness. We discussed the very topic of Ms. Letourneau in my Anthropology of Love class, debating whether or not something like this could be considered love or mere deviance. My initial reaction is to say that, obviously, Ms. Letourneau had some kind of mental illness. But then I thought about it. It's not like the boy was unwilling. This seemed to be a reciprocated relationship. Whether or not Villi was too young to truly understand the adult-formed concept of love, it was clear that there was some kind of real emotional attachment that one does not find in some similar cases. Love is a man-formed concept. Only we can decide what is and isn't perverted. I'm not saying I support what Ms. Letourneau did; I really don't. But to simply pass it off as sickness isn't fair or right, either. 
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27. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
I really miss Anthropology class, I wish I could have been there. I can't help but wonder as the adult intrusted with the care of children what was she thinking? I am only a dog mom and an aunt, but the welfare of my dogs, my nieces, nephews and children I don't even know, is more important than my personal wants and needs. It is hard for me to understand why any normal adult would take advantage of a child, even if they thought they were "in love." I would like to believe that the adult in the relationship would "love" the child enough to do what is best for the child. The only conclusion I can come too is that she has to have some sort of mental problem, that caused bad judgement. What was the conclusion of your debate? Thanks,
Deonna
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08-04-04, 08:18 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Mary Kay Letourneau has been released. " |
LAST EDITED ON 08-04-04 AT 08:20 PM (EST)Deonna, I agree 1000% with what you just posted. 
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Spot on. It is insidious behavior. A thirteen year old is a helpless target. Edited for preposition malfunction...
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38. "RE: Count me weird" |
I think that now,I would not be attracted to a 13-year-old. At the time, though, I was young for my age, and he was mature for his. Still, it would have been extraordinarily inappropriate.However, I am still sometimes attracted to my students, who are between 17 and 21 (generally. In the trades courses, I do have a few that are between 25 and 50). There's always one per term that has a crush on me, too. However, there has never been an intense attraction, and so everything is fine. I find the friendship attraction hard to manage too, though. There have been half a dozen kids in the last few years that I would have really liked to be friends with, but I feel that I can't be the one to extend the first invitations, especially because it's not acceptable during college time (and even, I would say, on college grounds) and after the courses are over, we rarely meet by chance. I've only really maintained contact with one person, and that's mainly because of our joint Survivor fetish. 
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