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26. "RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12"
LAST EDITED ON 09-18-15 AT 04:34 PM (EST)

>When Jmac won his way back
>into the House there were
>bigger fishes to fry...namely the
>James/Meg duo and the Austwins.
>THAT'S the reason he was
>not initially targeted upon his
>return.

Exactly!! Now all you have to do is ask yourself: WHO wanted to fry those big fishes? The answer is simple: Vanessa!! James and Austin had just made an agreement, planning to go to the F5 with Meg and the twins. That's right, that moron James wanted to go to the F5 with the threesome, putting him in a near no-win position. Anyway, back to John and Vanessa. If you remember, John had just been the "fried fish", evicted minutes before because Austin wanted him gone. If he wasn't boomeranged in the next couple of rounds, it was ONLY because Vanessa managed to turn Austin against James. I hope you get it now.


>When Johnny was the last Jury
>member remaining and he knew
>he was back in, he
>dropped allowing Vanessa to win
>HOH so technically it was
>Johnny showing he truly wanted
>to work with Vanessa because
>it become a situation where
>it was mutually beneficial for
>BOTH having the same objective
>to target the two non-secret
>alliances.

Of course, John HAD to show some trust to Vanessa. He had been the one repeatedly refusing her offers to work together. The guy's a moron but he was still able to see that winning HOH was only a one week reprieve while working with Vanessa (who reiterated that offer once more JUST BEFORE John was first evicted) could earn him much more time.


>Yes when James was unable to
>win the DE HOH, at
>that point it became Vanessa's
>game to lose. I STILL
>stand by that prediction. Here's
>why: The ONLY scenario
>that could have prevented that
>would be Jmac winning BOTH
>the F5 AND F4 POVs.
>Could that have happened? Sure,
>ANYTHING'S possible, but I do
>not regard that ONE ripple
>in the water as a
>"complicated" situation.

One ripple? Too funny! Vanessa was in an ideal situation before the F5 HoH. She didn't need to win it because John or Austin would most likely have been evicted. Sure there were risks but MUCH LESS than the ones she faced during Steve's F4 HoH.

>Vanessa never lost her "puppy dog."
>Steve would want Jmac eliminated
>before Vanesssa because there's no
>way he beats Jmac in
>the Finals.

Do you listen when the players give DR confessionals? STEVE was adamant: He wanted John to win so that they could evict Vanessa. That pretty much told us that he wasn't her "puppy dog" anymore

ETA: I took this from Jims' observation of the Live feeds. It should prove to you that Vanessa was indeed working with John:


"The F4 POV... the days are something Vanessa has been Jedi drilling for weeks and weeks and weeks and would probably be her strongest possible Veto comp... Ironically, and almost fatally, when Vanessa started working with John, she started teaching him the days, and remarked how much better he was getting at them..."


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-14-15       
   Not there yet,   kingfish     09-15-15     1  
     RE: Not there yet,   Aruba     09-15-15     3  
         RE: Not there yet,   kingfish     09-15-15     6  
             RE: Not there yet,   michel2     09-15-15     7  
                 RE: Not there yet,   kingfish     09-16-15     13  
             RE: Not there yet,   Aruba     09-15-15     9  
                 RE: Not there yet,   kingfish     09-16-15     12  
   RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-15-15     2  
     RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-15-15     4  
         RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-15-15     5  
             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   kingfish     09-15-15     8  
                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-15-15     11  
                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-16-15     14  
             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-15-15     10  
                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-16-15     15  
                     RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-16-15     16  
                         RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-16-15     17  
                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   kingfish     09-17-15     18  
                                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-17-15     19  
                                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-17-15     21  
                                     RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-17-15     23  
                                         RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-18-15     24  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-18-15     27  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   kingfish     09-18-15     28  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-18-15     29  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   kingfish     09-19-15     30  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-19-15     31  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   kingfish     09-20-15     34  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-20-15     33  
                                             Moral, Moral, Morals...   michel2     09-20-15     36  
                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-17-15     20  
                                 RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-17-15     22  
                                     RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-18-15     25  
                                         RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-18-15     26  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   Aruba     09-20-15     32  
                                             RE: Love/Loathe List BB17 #12   michel2     09-20-15     35  

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