LAST EDITED ON 09-16-15 AT 09:25 PM (EST)

Since the West Coasters won't be seeing this episode's conclusion before midnight, I won't comment on it but I do want to answer some of your points.

First, thank you for taking my suggestion! I think the thread will feel more adequate.

Next, I want to state that BB and Survivor are amoral games. That's why I don't judge the nature of the players. You are really caught up with morals that simply don't belong in a game like this.

Also, you have to admit that Palau didn't test Tom's morality very much. He went to only 1 Tribal Council before Steph joined Koror and Willard was really an easy boot. After, he had immunity most of the times so he didn't have to scramble much. I know you will refuse to consider anything that taints Tom's image so let's not linger on the times I feel he didn't show high integrity. Just consider that, in my opinion, these games are amoral. I don't mean immoral: Amoral.

I'll state it again: Vanessa's game got complicated when she won HoH. If Austin had won HoH and Jmac had won veto, then she would have gone up but Austin would have cast the tie-breaking vote, evicting Steve for his betrayal. If Jmac had won both HoH and Veto, the result would have been the same as what we saw: Austin would have been evicted.

As for John's idiotic idea of throwing the Veto, you are forgetting that he told us AFTER winning it that he truly wanted to throw it if Steve hadn't been so close. It wasn't just an out, it was his plan and it showed his lack of logic.