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"D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Please keep all complaining about the incredibly boring final Boardroom on this thread until the West Coast has a chance to realize that they've gotten thirteen previous chances to let our suffering serve as an example, do the intelligent thing, and not watch the show -- but they've blown every single one of them. We watch. We post. We suffer. We have this horrible feeling of dread and start twitching every time someone says the word 'recap'. We can't shake the feeling that Donald will find a way to give Markus a fifteen-minute speech. It may even contain as many as four actual sentence attempts. We have no rooting interest in Randal or Rebecca: we just want the winner to be determined so the season can be ended. We, in fact, are thisclose to saying 'Remember Book Smarts vs. Street Smarts? That was a really good season.'

We're sick, we're tired, we know the best we can hope for is a double firing, and we want to know why we're still here. Not to mention why the West Coast insists on following us -- despite having so many chances to learn from our mistake.

Y'know, people who enjoy pain this much usually save it for private clubs. :p

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 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-15-05 1
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 2
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Estee 12-15-05 3
           RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 4
 Question universityofkentuckyrocks 12-15-05 5
   RE: Question Fishercat 12-15-05 6
       RE: Question volsfan 12-15-05 7
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Fishercat 12-15-05 8
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... kathliam 12-15-05 9
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Fishercat 12-15-05 10
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Fishercat 12-15-05 11
 Nice change! volsfan 12-15-05 12
   RE: Nice change! kathliam 12-15-05 13
       RE: Nice change! mysticwolf 12-15-05 29
 *THUD* volsfan 12-15-05 14
   RE: *THUD* Fishercat 12-15-05 15
   RE: *THUD* Elaine0 12-16-05 94
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... buckeyegirl 12-15-05 16
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... chickgigi 12-15-05 91
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... kathliam 12-15-05 17
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 19
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 18
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 20
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 22
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... kathliam 12-15-05 23
           RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 24
 "Responsibility" kathliam 12-15-05 21
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 25
 The Losers kathliam 12-15-05 26
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 27
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... kathliam 12-15-05 28
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 32
 Finally, The Events kathliam 12-15-05 30
 Lemme see if I understand volsfan 12-15-05 31
   RE: Lemme see if I understand kathliam 12-15-05 33
       RE: Lemme see if I understand volsfan 12-15-05 35
           RE: Lemme see if I understand ARnutz 12-15-05 39
               RE: Lemme see if I understand kathliam 12-15-05 44
 Making The Boss Happy kathliam 12-15-05 34
   RE: Making The Boss Happy mysticwolf 12-15-05 36
 OMG! volsfan 12-15-05 37
   RE: OMG! mysticwolf 12-15-05 40
       RE: OMG! volsfan 12-15-05 41
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 38
 So Tell Me Who Wins, Already... kathliam 12-15-05 42
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... universityofkentuckyrocks 12-15-05 43
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 45
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... universityofkentuckyrocks 12-15-05 49
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 46
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 47
 Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever? kathliam 12-15-05 48
   RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever? volsfan 12-15-05 50
   RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever? ARnutz 12-15-05 51
       RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever? volsfan 12-15-05 53
 Tie Bravehart 12-15-05 52
   RE: Tie mysticwolf 12-15-05 56
       RE: Tie Bravehart 12-15-05 58
 The Final (And I Mean It This Time)... kathliam 12-15-05 54
 Foreshadowing universityofkentuckyrocks 12-15-05 55
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... tn_peachie 12-15-05 57
 Live...From Lincoln Center kathliam 12-15-05 59
 Wow, just wow. (sarcasm) universityofkentuckyrocks 12-15-05 60
   RE: Wow, just wow. (sarcasm) volsfan 12-15-05 61
 What a flippin lap dog! volsfan 12-15-05 62
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... tn_peachie 12-15-05 63
 Will The Hair Ever Make A Choice? kathliam 12-15-05 64
   RE: Will The Hair Ever Make A Choic... ARnutz 12-15-05 65
   RE: Will The Hair Ever Make A Choic... tn_peachie 12-15-05 67
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 66
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Fishercat 12-15-05 68
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... tn_peachie 12-15-05 73
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... davwav02 12-15-05 77
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-15-05 82
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 69
 The Choice kathliam 12-15-05 70
   RE: The Choice ARnutz 12-15-05 79
   RE: The Choice prosecutor 12-16-05 95
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-15-05 71
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 80
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-15-05 84
           RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... volsfan 12-15-05 85
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 72
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... tn_peachie 12-15-05 76
 A reality first. Estee 12-15-05 74
   RE: A reality first. tn_peachie 12-15-05 78
   RE: A reality first. kathliam 12-15-05 83
       RE: A reality first. tn_peachie 12-15-05 86
   RE: A reality first. Chez 12-16-05 96
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... MattyMax 12-15-05 75
 RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... mysticwolf 12-15-05 81
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... marc_ri 12-15-05 87
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... MasterTech 12-15-05 89
   RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-15-05 88
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... Master B 12-15-05 90
       RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... chickgigi 12-16-05 92
           RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Fi... ARnutz 12-16-05 93

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1. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
*yawn* Oh... this is the finale? Hmmm... I bet Randal wins! ...and if somehow the stage opens up and swallows him whole or the rain at the ball field washes him away before Donald makes the announcement and Rebecca gets the job (because that's the only way she will)... (dare I say it?) I vow to stop watching this show!!! I'm serious this time! Yep!
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2. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Sure you are serious. I will believe it when I see it!

What is the over/under on when the recarp will end 9:15 or 9:30?

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3. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
That depends. Did you mean Friday or Saturday?
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4. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Either way...we lose!
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5. "Question"
On digital cable guide it says the finale was 2 hour's, but I thought it was only. It says 9-11. Can any of yall answer if this is correct.
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6. "RE: Question"
Dos horas.
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7. "RE: Question"
Well, it will only be about 1 and 1/2 hours or 1 hour and 45 mins at most because there will be at least a 15 recarp!
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8. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Yo, The Donald will be doing the recap now.

*Introduction*
*Ad Placements*
*Randal*
*Voiceover of Boardroom Shown on TV*
*Rebecca*
*Star Wars*
*Markus trying to complete a sentence*
*15 minutes later*
*Intro Theme*

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9. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I'm here, half-heartedly. I am the worst kind of masochist. I know it's going to hurt. I may fall asleep. But I'm here.
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10. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Odds on Trump doing a Probstian introduction? Cutting through hired fans?
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11. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Bad memories of my monkey-like chemistry teacher, Trump sounded almost like him when he said Okay/Mkay.

Trump doing a live poll.

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12. "Nice change!"
We start out live and will watch the episode and then go back live. It is nice to see a little change. Now, here comes the freakin recarp.
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13. "RE: Nice change!"
So he says he hasn't made up his mind. Ya, right. Think the live audience reaction will have any bearing on his decision?
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29. "RE: Nice change!"
All I know is that if Rebecca somehow pulls off a win the board tomorrow is gonna look like Draco's head after it's exploded.
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14. "*THUD*"
I just fell outta my chair because there was no recarp...lemme say that agian. There was no recarp. Not any mention of anything that has led up to this point.

*THUD*

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15. "RE: *THUD*"
...what...the...hell?
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94. "RE: *THUD*"
Am I wrong to say the show wasn't boring like it usually is? It kept my interest the whole time and I had no problems staying awake. Maybe Trump if finally get the hang of this "live event" concept.

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16. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
LAST EDITED ON 12-15-05 AT 09:06 PM (EST)

Thank you Vols and gang!! I soo miss being to help spoil. I still have another hour to go before I get to watch it...

ETA: No recarp?? Unfreakinbelivable. Thanks for the warning!

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91. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Last weeks episode had the recrap.
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17. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Rebecca has her team call comedy clubs to find an act to replace Joe 'Juice' Piscopo. The guys are making backup contingency plans on who will be emcee.

It's raining on Randal's parade. They are rushing to the stadium to put tarp on the ground to at least salvage some of the event. The rep from Autism Speaks calls Randal and is concerned.

I'm concerned too, having seen the talent Capital Edge chose to emcee their event. What did they do, accept the first person who was available? (Probably) He's more than a little creepy.

The stadium is a swamp, and it's still raining. There is no way to play, plus it's more than a little grody for the sponsors. Randal decides to move the event inside to the clubhouse. They are doing away with the Silent Auction and concentrate on the Live Auction. (Trust me, that's where the big money is, anyway.)

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19. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Thanks Kath...go with it.
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18. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Rebecca has hired a local stand-up comedian and he put a smile on her face. Looks like they are beginning to recover.

Randal is forced to move things inside and have some type of auction with the celebs to raise money. They are going to have his event in the locker room. I dunno...

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20. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Ok, I hope we don't keep going back and forth from live to tape. Just run the damn show!
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22. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
At least you're hoping instead of praying. In either case, I doubt it will work. I think we're doomed. (And I have to watch this twice.)
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23. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Twice? Why are you doing that to yourself?
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24. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
DH is workin and we don't have TIVO. So, watch now, then watch him watch.
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21. ""Responsibility""
DT's lesson of the week: things go wrong, nothing you can do, but a good leader will step up and take (wait for it)..responsibility.

Rebecca working on the goodie bags. Toral has the idea of putting donor cards and brochures in the front of the bags so the big money guests can make donations. (Donor cards never work unless guests are clued in in advance.)

Randal and team meet with the CEO from Outback and the radio personality who will be the auctioneer about the change in plans. Due to space constraints, VIPs will be admitted first, then first-come, first-served for general admission folks. (Given the rain, I'm guessing 3 people show up. Okay, four. The Weavers. They will begin searching the seats for their clue.)

Alison from Autism Speaks is concerned that the message will be highlighted. Randal runs down how many times the charity will be mentioned. Randal hasn't considered a podium or a sound system.

Coming up, the fired candidates 'have a lot to say'. (Meaning, they will each be permitted a four-word sentence. Except Markus, who no one will understand anyway.)

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25. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Carson's willing to get "wet & dirty". Just try to tell me that's not code for something.
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26. "The Losers"
What, you want me to list them all? Feh, visit the website. DT brings them into the fake boardroom and then we go back to the 'action'.

Capital Edge has Yahoo signage as folks come in the door, a nice little VIP entrance. Many purple and white Yahoo signs, one little Elizabeth Glaser sign.

Meanwhile, back at the stadium, the Outback CEO has more than a little bit of OCD and fretting where Randal is. Alison from Autism Speaks is freaking about where donations checks will be put so they don't get lost. Randal pleased his team is solving problems without his supervision. Randal is greeting the celebrities. Ooo, there's Sugar Ray Leonard. Jerry O'Connell. Carson from Queer Eye. Big names, people, these are big names.

Back to Capital Edge. There's way too much emphasis on Yahoo, only one mention of Elizabeth Glaser Foundation. Carolyn thinks Rebecca may have missed the point of the event. Carolyn isn't smiling, and when Carolyn isn't smiling, DT isn't smiling.

He sure isn't smiling as he gets on his helicopter to fly to the stadium. DT at least calls Randal in advance, and Randal runs outside to greet him and talks while they walk.

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27. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I have put together these types of things before and unless something changes when they go upstairs...Rebecca totally missed the boat with Yahoo! EVERYWHERE! Then one little AIDS foundation sign above the bar. Way off base if you ask me.

I have changed my mind about going back and forth to live vs. tape. It is moving fairly smoothly and I like the break. So far, I have been impressed compaired to other Apprentice finales.

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Especially since Regis is nowhere in sight. At least so far. Of course, I didn't look at the audience that closely. Yikes, I hope i didn't just jinx us.
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32. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Well, as I assume that at least a portion of the success is how much money is raised, I'm thinking I should have just loaned Rebecca one of my shotguns. It would be less painful. ('Course, it doesn't help thay Yahoo! - who admits having never done a charity fundraiser before - doesn't want any overt fundraising done. What!?)
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30. "Finally, The Events"
The time has come to see which charity event tanks.

First up, Randal, who opens the event with a moving speech about autism and the need for support and donations. Mark calls Randal a 'rock star for autism'. However, the natives look a little restless. He needs to wrap things up and get the party started. Randal brings DT to the podium, keeps his comments short and sweet.

The emcee begins introducing the celebrities. Jerome Williams is in the house, didn't see him enter. Ah, the Live Auction has begun. Autographed Sugar Ray Leonard boxing gloves go for $3,000. That's all we see. So much for any controversy whether DT agrees with Randal's change in plans.

Moving on to Capital Edge. The Yahoo woman wants to know what Yahoo items were included in the gift bags. Rebecca tells the ladies the gift bags will be at the door when people leave. Remember the donor cards are in the goodie bags. Anyone want to guess how many will be returned. (Over/under is 1.5%. It doesn't work. You have to get them while their behinds are still in the seats.)

DT calls Rebecca from the limo to say he's on the way, will she impress him? She assures him he will be. Yea, we'll see.

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31. "Lemme see if I understand"
The AIDS foundation wants to hold a fund raiser but they don't want to ask for donations. Is that right? Unless the envelopes are specailly marked how will they know if it was the comedy thing?

I don't like the idea of a fund raiser without asking for money. I hope they at least mention the envelope while everyone is together.

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33. "RE: Lemme see if I understand"
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It was the Yahoo people who didn't want to pressure for money. I never saw anyone from Pediatric AIDS othen than Jake Glaser. I don't think the Glaser Foundation was very involved in this event, it was all about making the Yahoo people happy.

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35. "RE: Lemme see if I understand"
Ok, I got mixed up...it was Yahoo! Well, that makes it even more stupid because their management said they had never done anything like this. They should have done homework or at least talked to others that have done them to find out what is more commonly done.
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39. "RE: Lemme see if I understand"
...and this will be the nail in Rebecca's coffin!

If they people leave the event with a brochure and an envelope, they will toss it aside to look through the friggin' gifts in the bag!!! ...and possibly never pick it up again! It will land in the pile of junk mail.

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44. "RE: Lemme see if I understand"
Depends what DT uses as criteria. Was the client happy? Who did DT think better orchestrated their event? Who better kissed up to him?
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34. "Making The Boss Happy"
(Live) DT tells the audience to always treat your boss with great respect. He wants to see how Rebecca treated him.

DT hopes Rebecca does a great job with the event, because the place is hard to find. Rebecca is greeting the VIPs. Her team is going over the order of events, the comic and his agent have issues with other people being on the stage.

Ah, DT has arrived. Rebecca does not greet him at the door, she offers to show him around, and asks him if he would like to say a few words (rather than having a schedule ready for him). DT says a few words then welcomes everyone to join him downstairs, 30 minutes before they were ready to begin. She sends Chris to have the comedian come downstairs to start the show, sends Toral to find Jake Glaser so he can make comments. The comedian (who does this guy think he is, anyway?) is bent because he has to go one earlier than he is supposed to. He balks, so Chris goes onstage. Carolyn and DT are talking, say it looks a little disorganized. (Well, it wasn't until you blew Rebecca's schedule.)

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36. "RE: Making The Boss Happy"
Well, we all know it's all about, as DT says, "Me! Me! Me!"
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37. "OMG!"
I just realized that Rebecca's event has been given a tremendous amount of air time. Randal's time was very brief during the event. It was like what...3 minutes?

Rebecca's event has been going on forever.

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40. "RE: OMG!"
And, unless I missed him leavin early, I think DT stayed for the comedy.
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41. "RE: OMG!"
I think he stayed as well. We will have to see how that editing will pay out.
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38. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
The comedians are really ripping on george, but he seems to be enjoying it. I think he's a closet DAW.
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42. "So Tell Me Who Wins, Already..."
Jake Glaser steps up to make his comments at the Yahoo event. Pete Dominic is introduced. What's with his teeth, they look strange. He also starts making jokes at George. He isn't moving on. This is making the apprentices nervous, although George seems to enjoy it. Now the second comedian is working on George.

At the stadium, post-event, Randal and his team are departing. Hugs all around, Randal feels so much gratitude for the hard work they put into helping him win. He's relieved it's over.

The Yahoo event is ending. Golf applause (which will hereafter be known as 'Weaver applause'). Handing out the gift bags at the door as folks leave. Would have been nace to mention the donor cards in the bags. George had a good time, though, especially liked the 'Yahoo-tinis with the purple ice'.

Rebecca so happy with how hard her team worked for her, wishes she could do something for their efforts.

Rebecca returns to the suite and she and Randal talking about their day. Usual F2 stuff. The next morning they went out to breakfast, or maybe lunch, to talk about their experience.

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43. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I thought Rebecca was better than Randal but Randal did a little bit better than Rebecca.
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45. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Management (on this task) from what was shown, I thought Rebecca did a better job.
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49. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
You know, are they showing us different stuff in different markets, I got about 20 minuites of airtime and maybe ten from Rebecca.
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46. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
IMO, one of the more interesting board-rooms I've seen. Tough questions. Interesting answers. Maybe he will hire both.
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I didn't think he would but after the boardroom and D daying he had 2 stars...I think it very possible.

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48. "Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever?"
Exciting footage of Randal and Rebecca packing. Randal believes he is the whole package DT is looking for. Rebecca has the experience and passion. They depart the suite a final time for their last boardroom. Rona asks them to take a seat on the sofa.

The 'employees' arrive and are escorted into the Boardroom.

Josh says Randal an incredible leader, always calm in the eye of the storm. Mark says it would have taken away from the charity if they tried to play ball. They raised over $11,000.

DT asks Toral how much money they raised, they explain that the Yahoo folks told them not to ask for donations. George questions this, who was putting on the show anyway? (Wasn't Yahoo the client?) DT doesn't think it right that charity lost out, Yahoo should make substantial contribution.

James (?) mentions that Autism didn't talk about donations until they heard Alison speak so passionately, at which point they changed their plan to include an auction.

Marshawn says Randal better, his education distinguishes him from Rebecca. Several people sticking up for Rebecca. Carolyn says Rebecca handled her event very well. Asks why Randal had no Plan B in event of rain, despite how well they executed the event. George points out that Randal did not introduce the celebrities who were there. They had decided to concentrate on the charity and not the celebrities.

DT asks if Randal is too low-key, is he tough enough to make in NYC. They say yes. DT says he recognizes that Rebecca is tough, points out when she stood up for Toral. Toral speaks passionately at how Rebecca has performed despite her injury. Her entire team speaks well of her.

DT says he is 'stuck with two stars'. He dismisses the teams.

And....the elevator doors close. Will Rebecca still be on crutches for the Live show?

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50. "RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever?"
Will Rebecca still be on crutches for the Live show?

Let's hope not!

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51. "RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever?"
Did I hear them correctly? Rebecca raised $0??? WTF??? How do you have a charity event and raise no money???

Two stars. Pffft!

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53. "RE: Will Anyone Be Hired...Ever?"
Remember, this was the day of/after the events. Rebecca sent envelopes in the backpack. I bet the amount of money raised will be mentioned when they go live.
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52. "Tie"
Why couldn't it be a tie? No spoiler here...I just knew weekjs ago it would be a tie...they are both great!


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56. "RE: Tie"
Voiceover: "The boardroom shifts to live in Lincoln Center, where anything can happen" Foresadowing? Just maybe. But, as I said before, if it does, and he hires Rebecca for ANY reason - just watch the explosions on the board. We'll think webby hired Bob as an assistant.
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58. "RE: Tie"
Apart from all the posturing!!!!! I really think The Donald will hire them both! Covering two minorities! Plus, just because they both deserve it!


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54. "The Final (And I Mean It This Time) Boardroom"
Randal and Rebecca are ushered into the Boardroom.

Randal believes he deserves to work for DT based on his winning record, experience, academic and professional background. Rebecca says he recognizes her loyalty, honesty and she's not afraid to stand up for what she believes, but mostly because she's continued for 13 weeks with a broken foot.

DT says Rebecca should have greeted him or delegated someone to do so. He didn't like the room where Randal held his event. DT tells Randal he raised $11,000. He asks Rebecca why they didn't raise money. George and Carolyn ask why she didn't put as much effort into promoting the charity, Rebecca asserts Yahoo was the client. Randal speaks up that he felt the charity was the client.

DT not as happy with Randal's performance that last 13 weeks. Feels he should have had a list of auction items, the VIPs weren't on stage when introduced so no one could see them. Carolyn wants to know why he didn't check the weather. They finally get Randal to admit he did not have a Plan B.

Randal thinks Rebecca is still young, had a losing record and her team sent her away when they had a chance. Rebecca says Randal's Achilles Heel is overthinking things and spends too much time on little details and doesn't see the big picture. Randal is shaking his head and making noises while she is talking. He now begins to attack Rebecca.

DT asks George and Carolyn what they did right. George thinks they are both stars. Carolyn agrees and give them credit for motivating their teams. Carolyn thought Yahoo was a great event. Randal did well even without a backup plan.

DT tells them both they are brilliant and have great futures ahead of them, then asks them to leave the Boardroom.

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55. "Foreshadowing"
You can tell by the way The Hair speaks, that both of them are going to be fired. God, there something unusual about his hair today and I feel like calling him that.
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57. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Did anyone notice George's cheat sheet? Right before the last break when they went live, the camara panned the table where George was sitting and there was a sheet in front of him with pictures on it?
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59. "Live...From Lincoln Center"
Montage of Rebecca talking to a bunch of psople, asking 'important' questions as part of her job as a journalist. She also works with a non-profit consulting group helping NFP groups function better. Rebecca is driven. She is welcomed to Lincoln Center, no crutches, looking pretty hot.

Now, time for Randal's montage. Shots of his consulting company, which he founded with college buddies. Shots of his home life. Randal wants to run a billion dollar company. He will scream at the top of his lungs if he is hired. And with that, he is welcomed to Lincoln Center. 'Let's make it happen' as he is shaking hands.

Before The Hair (thank you, UKRocks) hears from the F2, he wants to hear from the Losers. Toral first, she's proud to support Rebecca, she's better than Randal. Toral calls Rebecca 'a diamond in a haystack'. Marshawn disagrees, doesn't see how The Hair could make any other chance than Randal. Jen M (talk about HAIR) also goes with Randal. Alla next, she's all about the facts, Rebecca isn't in the same league as Randal, saw nothing in Rebecca. Lots of boo's from the audience. The Hair sticks up for Rebecca and sends us to commercial.

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60. "Wow, just wow. (sarcasm)"
Whoa, Alla's getting a little personal. How can she say Rebecca did nothing, she's the one doing nothing.
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61. "RE: Wow, just wow. (sarcasm)"
That little ramble of hers just proved to me that she isn't a good business person. In business you have to know what to say and when to say it. For her to say Rebecca did nothing was just too out there and should have never been said!
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62. "What a flippin lap dog!"
Yahoo! donates $100,000 to both charities...MONTHS after the events. IDIOTS...IDIOTS!
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63. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
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He lets them chose project and then he will chose.

He has to hire them both. Could there be any more forshadowing?

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64. "Will The Hair Ever Make A Choice?"
The Hair introduces Dan from Yahoo who announces they will donate $100,000 to split between the charities so no one gets left behind.

Ah, the jobs. First, New Jersey. Trump Plaza in Joisey City. Well, that will be convenient for Randal, anyway. Breathtaking views of the Hudson River and NYC skyline.

Or, Atlantic City. Expansion and renovation of his three hotel and casino properties. It a 'uge' undertaking.

Randal would prefer the Atlantic City project. Rebecca would take Trump Tower in New Jersey. The Hair asks Rebecca if there is such a thing as too much education. She is diplomatic that depends what you do with your education. The Hair asks Randal if Rebecca tough enough, he says she's too inexperienced. Asks Randal why he should be hired. We've heard this before. Asks Rebecca the same thing. She's speaking strong, willing to walk through a brick wall to accomplish what she wants. She thinks she's better as an Apprentice. Randal speaks up to argue the fact. George wants to discuss Randal's record, but The Hair says it's time to go to commercial.

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65. "RE: Will The Hair Ever Make A Choice?"
Hmmm... both jobs are in New Jersey. Coincidence? I think not!
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67. "RE: Will The Hair Ever Make A Choice?"
OUCH!!!

Randall that hurt.

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66. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Don't think I've been aware of Rebecca's non-profit that she founded as a child. $750,000? And getting "big dogs" behind it? Not too shabby for a kid.
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68. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Did Randal just screw Rebecca out of a job with Trump? Ouch.

So, the big surprise tonight was no recap? Well, better than anything else.

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73. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
That sucks for Rebecca. Randall just kept her out of a job.
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77. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Yes, he did.

He provided no reasonable explanation, being such a huge scholar, other than "there should only be one Apprentice. This is the Apprentice, not Apprenti."

That was so unbelievably selfish of him, she would've worked in the other location, so it wouldn't have mattered much to him, he basically came across as a glory-hog saying that he's the winner, and he should be the only winner.

RANDAL, YOU ARE AN #####!!!

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82. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
...and given the choice, on the spot like that, a lot of people would have done the same thing!

I think I would.

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69. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Randal is an ass.
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70. "The Choice"
It's time, finally, for The Hair to make a decision. He tells us for him, this is business not entertainment because the person may be working for him for a long time. He takes time to listen to himself talk about how great each F2 Apprentice is. The Hair is *hearting* big time on Rebecca, although he questions her loyalty, just a little bit. Randal's a great leader, rarely seen on this show, and he does it nicely.

Rebecca, you're oustanding. Randal (insert pregnant pause), you're hired.

Randal is celebrating with the loser Apprentices and The Hair has to call him back to the table to ask his opinion about Rebecca. If Randal were The Hair, would he hire Rebecca also? Randal thinks there should only be one.

Wow, what a sore winner. I lost quite a bit of respect for Randal tonight. What would it hurt him to say, yes.

Bill would have done it for Kwame. ('You'd do it for Randolph Scott. *singing* Randolph Scott'.)

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79. "RE: The Choice"
Kwame was awesome! Rebecca was not. She was not even in the same ballpark as Kwame.
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95. "RE: The Choice"
>>
>
>Wow, what a sore winner. I
>lost quite a bit of
>respect for Randal tonight. What
>would it hurt him to
>say, yes.
>
>Bill would have done it for
>Kwame. ('You'd do it for
>Randolph Scott. *singing* Randolph Scott'.)
>


That's just it Donald never cared to hire Kwame also, even
though Kwame was good enough for the job, so now why when
he should hire an African American he should want to hire
two.That's just wrong not to mention embarrassing. Give me a break, you should lose respect for the Donald
not Randal.

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71. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Dood! Good for Randal! If I were him, I would not want someone else stealing my thunder either!

This is not the Apprenti... BWAAHHH!

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80. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I think this may be a first but I totally disagree! Randal already had the job...why not give Rebecca a chance? I think he is an ass.
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84. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Well, it could be a first.

In my opinion, she wasn't even worthy of being in the final two. She should've been fired in week 3 when she lost as PM the first time. I bet she was kept around longer just because Trump didn't want a lawsuit over that broken ankle.

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85. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Could be...but IMHO she performed very well in the final assignment. Better than Randal. Randal got the job and he totally dissed her which is just wrong in my book.
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72. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
DT hires Randall. Offers Randall the chance to have DT hire Rebecca. Randall says NO. DT leaves it at that, but says that had Randall said he was okay with it, he'd have done so. My opinion of Randall just went way down. Sore winner???
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76. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I agree my opinion of him has changed now.

Rebecca taking the other job would not have taken too much of his thunder. It would have made him look better.

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74. "A reality first."
I've never seen someone blow their entire edit in two seconds before.
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78. "RE: A reality first."
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Great point. He was edited as this nice, great guy and now......he is a jerk.

The editors also played up the "friendship" between the two of them. I guesss Randall really did not think that well of her or their friendship.

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83. "RE: A reality first."
No kidding! The editors must be kicking themselves now. 'We gave him a golden edit and guaranteed him a win, and he makes us look like idiots.'

I thought Randal was a great candidate until he opened his mouth in the live boardroom. I could not have been more disappointed if the Weavers sped through the geography puzzle ahead in record time.

No, I take that back. That would have been worse.

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86. "RE: A reality first."
I wonder what the editors did not show us about Randall? Kinda like the didn't show the Weavers trying to find the Great Lakes on the final challenge.
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96. "RE: A reality first."
Randal has 5 degrees, and was a Rhodes scholar. I was just wondering. Is Apprenti the plural of Apprentice? It does not sound right to me. From my three years of Latin, I think Apprenti would be the plural of Apprentus. Maybe he is not as smart as he thinks.
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75. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
What a prick! He could have said 'Sure, as long as I'm the winner!'

And then that showboating across the stage?! whateva, Randall. I hope Trump hires her anyway.

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81. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I was prepared for DT to hire either one, or both, and I would have been okay with it. With the twist, and the response to it, I'm simply disgusted. And not with DT for a change. What an #####.
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87. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I was a little surprised Randal did that but I think Trump is the bigger loser for putting him that position, especially right there on the spot. It's Trump's show, as he never tires of telling us, so he should be making decisions like that. Plus, hiring both of them is a cop out, the whole point of the show is to pick one winner.
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89. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I see your point about the show only having one winner, but Donald did pick one winner: Randal. Asking Randal if Rebecca was worthy of being hired wouldn't take one iota away from his win.
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88. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
Well, DT is the ##### for not making that decision himself! If he really wanted to hire her too, he could've just done that!

How good is anyone at making on the spot decisions like that? It's live TV, a DAW just won a show and then it's tossed in his lap?

Bullcrap!

Does Survivor do that? Does the Amazing Race do that? NO! Trump is the idiot who put it out there on live TV!

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90. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
I'm guessing it was the should Rebecca be hired also? Trump probably figured Randal would say yes. Boy was he wrong. Then again, I was wrong too.

I'm conflicted. I think Randal deserved the win. And I agree that there should really be one Apprentice. I can only imagne what would have happen if Jeff Probst asked Danni if Stephenie should also get a million dollars. That wouldn't have been cool. But Randal should have handle it better. He should have at least said "You shouldn't hire her as an Apprentice, but you defintley should hire her as something else." But I don't hate him.

He was harsh in both boardrooms. But then I remember how Rebecca (and Trump) kicked Randal around during the XM Radio task. Randal probably didn't want to go through that again.

Eh... both of them did about the same in my opinion (at the final task). But Randal did have the better record. I did love watching Chris and Josh battle over Rebecca/Randal. They really do motivate their teams.

Good season, but the ending is kind of sour. It's like Survivor: Palau. A great season, that was soured because of Tom's last episode behavior.

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92. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
One could argue Survivor did it with Poopert.
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93. "RE: D-Apprentice #4 Episode #14 (Finale) East Coast Spoiler Thread"
If Trump wanted to leave the vote up to America, that would be different.

Rupert won as a fan favorite, not because another Survivor deemed him worthy.

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