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"Survivor 37 Player Rankings Ep. 3"
Yeah, I know I’ve been absent as of late. NHL season starting; NFL a month into the season; MLB Playoffs. Best time of the year for sports enthusiasts...tough to scrounge up any extra time to keep putting Michel on the canvas (even though I have to agree with most of what he’s assessing this season.)

1) ANGELINA – For episode 3, Angelina is an easy pick for this week’s top spot honors. Jeremy’s blindside was planted, fertilized, and harvested by “Sequoia Lady.” I could be sarcastic and say she got her way by threatening to club any tribe mate who voted Natalie over the head with one of her legs, but truth be told...it was her social game that got it done. I’ll allow Michel to “spike the ball” on this one.

2) CHRISTIAN – Gabby said Christian is her #1; Nick said Christian is his #1. He’ll continue to be a valuable asset in the challenges regardless where he lands after the tribal switch. Arguably in the best position thus far in the game.

3) MIKE – A voice of reason in each and every confessional. Doing the right thing by voting out his closest ally, Michel’s assessment of Mike as a future “David” is now all but assured.

4) NICK – “Slick” Nick keeps sliding up the rankings. How he infiltrated himself among the blindside victims was vintage Survivor. He’s also astute enough to realize he cannot have an exclusive deal with Christian as long as Gabby is in the picture. How this unfolds will be interesting to see.

5) ELIZABETH – Other than coming through with an impressive first attempt in the ring toss, not much else doing in this episode. Whereas, Elizabeth initially pitched the idea to blindside Jessica to save her ally Lyrca, it is Gabby who’s taking the rap. It could not have worked out much better for Elizabeth.

6) GABBY – Her loyalty took a hit this episode. Davie, Carl, and Bi don’t trust her; Nick would throw her to the wolves in a NY minute. The upcoming tribal switch is a good news/bad news scenario for her. Good News – a new tribe could negate her newfound disloyalty. Bad News – most likely will no longer be the “hottest chick” in the tribe.

7) JOHN – Got a fair amount of air time this week. Got to keep Natalie in the game without sticking his neck out...Angelina (unknowingly) did it for him. He continues to TALK a good game. Time will tell whether he’ll be able to put his words into action and actually PLAY a good game.

8) BI – Handled being kept in the dark relatively well. The first leg in BOTH ICs speaks for her competitiveness, but that appears to have come to a halt. Hard to believe Medical will remove her from the game when they allowed the casting debacle joke (Missy - S29) to actual advance to the Finals despite her injury.

9) ALEC – Was on pace for another MVP performance before he got tangled up. Shaping up to be a prime candidate for an early post-merge ADS boot based on his competition performances. If not, he could be a force when the ICs are individual.

10) NATALIA – In a season with not a whole lot of eye candy, Natalia is one of the nicer sightings. Interesting to see how she definitively opposed her closest ally Angelina wanting a Natalie boot. But when the dust settled we all saw who is the sharp end of the stick in that partnership...or more appropriately the sharp end of the “tree trunk.”

11) DAN – May have caught a break with everyone’s reluctance to believe Jeremy. Although, Mike can attest to Dan possessing the idol. All-in-all not much of a factor in the game.

12) KARA – Quintessential coattail rider...whether that coattail she decides to ride is Dan’s or Angelina’s. She’ll get much more mileage riding Angelina.

13) ALISON – Not a whole lot to make of her heading into tribal switch. Maybe the swap could make her a factor...maybe not.

14) DAVIE – Crybaby! Had he shed a small tear over losing the only great looking gal in the tribe, I might give him a pass. Carrying on like a sissy boy has “Wuss” written all over him for this episode. You may now be right Michel...perhaps “girls” can “provide” as well. LOL!

15) CARL – His pitiful performance in the ring toss was a sheer embarrassment to the cowboy hat he carries around.

16) LYRCA – Her support team (namely Elizabeth) saved her at the David TC. Her non-relevance in Ep. 3 makes me wonder why.

17) NATALIE – She understands the benefit of the Anti-Darwin Syndrome and how to use it to her advantage—I’ll give her that much. But nothing more. Please go home already!

BOOTED

JEREMY – Although I really wanted Natalie gone, Jeremy was the appropriate choice. He would have flipped on his Goliath tribe mates quicker than my pancakes on a Sunday morning. Had the tribal switch put him with Davie and Carl, episode 4 would have been the sequel to Roots. Had he made Jury, he’d be the bitterest of all Bettys.

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1. "RE: Survivor 37 Player Rankings Ep. 3"
Here's a suggestion: Hockey is pointless before March so why waste time watching crap?

As for our arguments, we were mostly in agreement up to now but I suspect you'll get knocked out of your chair when you read my rankings this week!

First, I must say that we finally had an OK episode. Not great, mind you, but at least interersting and that's because we see many players, in both camps, having side conversations, talking strategy and putting targets on their rivals’ back. These fractures are surfacing right before a Tribal Swap. This is going to make for some very difficult navigation for the targeted players. On the other hand, we’ve seen some players being able to cope with all different types in their original tribe. These players should reap the benefits of their good early social game.

I feel like doing a countdown this time, going from the useless to the stars:

17- Alec: It’s been three episodes and we still haven’t been introduced to Carl in a proper fashion. The guy is playing lead for his tribe in the physical, meaningless, part of challenges but we know nothing of his personal background and he hasn’t shown us any relevant game play.

16- Allison: Another figurant, Allison is there but we have no connections to her. It’s almost as if that big wave didn’t just scare her but took her away.

15- Carl: He has given us an insight into his family life and how close he was to Jessica but we have to wonder if he is even playing the game or just visiting Fiji. If he is only a “Tourist” then he certainly didn’t book during peak season.

14- Davie: Here, we have an extremely basic game; he was Outwitted by Gabby so he wants to make her pay. How will he do it? We can only assume he’s leaving that up to Bi and Nick.

13- Lyrsa: We have proof that she is an Incomplete player in the fact that she was only relevant when she was in danger. Her performance during the premiere was limited to her participation in the challenge and she hasn’t done anything to build on the alliance that saved her. We do know a bit about her personal story and she even connected that to her desire to fight for her survival, she has no hand on the game’s tactics.

12- Natalia: What do we know about Natalia except the fact that she hates Natalie? OK, she may or may not have Alec wrapped around her finger and she is Dan’s third in his fantasy threesome but those aren’t personal details. There’s probably only room for one Nat in Fiji and it seems the older one might just last longer.

11- Kara: We know about her romance with Dan and we know she is close to Angelina and Natalia but all we know about Kara is superficial; she is the prettiest one out there. With the wrong tribal breakdown, Kara could find herself in trouble. That could even happen in a tribe where the original Purple have the advantage, her former allies not wanting to give her the chance to reunite with Dan.

10- Dan: His game play comprises finding an idol, hooking up with Kara and dreaming of a threesome with her and Natalia. Everyone on the tribe knows about his idol and his romance and I don’t think Kara is going to let him have that threesome so what’s left? We do have a nice personal connection to the SWAT Officer so that leads us to believe that he will last a long time but his lack of game play will mean he has not enough resources to help him in the end.

9- Elizabeth: Whether we listen to Jeff’s recap or to the players themselves, Elizabeth wasn’t credited for the big blindside. Elizabeth has shown some nice personality traits and some game skills but it doesn’t seem to be enough to make an impression on her fellow players or the editors. How can we be impressed?

8- Angelina: We know that Angelina is a smart game player but who is she really? She got rid of a player that would never have entered in her strategy and she was able to rally the whole tribe behind her idea which makes her an important strategist, someone worthy of our attention. Her main problem is that everyone else on her tribe is aware of her capabilities and not everyone is that close to her. Her social game is not equal to her mental one but fortunately for her, Jon could help her there.

7- Natalie: As incredible as this may seem, I was impressed with Natalie and we have to acknowledge the fact that she is one of the season’s biggest characters, having raked up much more confessionals than the average players. (She is second by my unofficial count, trailing only Christian in amount of one-on-ones with the audience) What impressed me was her willingness to do the puzzle, taking the game in her hands and then keeping her cool despite Jeremy’s harangues. If we notice, the main complaints against Natalie came from the way she took charge building the shelter but we have to admit that the Purple Tribe’s shelter is just as good as the Orange one and they didn’t have the tool kit to build it. Whatever role she played in building it, it couldn’t have been that bad. Was Natalia expecting the 57 year old woman to build the shelter with her own hands? The muscle tribe is in need of smarts and maybe, just maybe, the wisdom of a 57 year old CEO could have been better utilized.

6- Bi: The conflict between Bi and Gabby is quite troubling. It would be so much better to have this “mighty mouse” teaming up with the “nerd whisperer” but unless something changes soon it doesn’t seem possible that the two can make the merger together. Bi seems so bitter that she would throw Gabby under the bus even in a situation where the original Orange Tribe members would have the advantage. That would be a sad outcome because these are two of the most nicely connected females to the audience. If Bi can put aside her anger towards Gabby then maybe the two could make it to the end but this seems unlikely at this time.

5- Gabby: Rarely do we go back to the winning Tribe’s camp after the Immunity Challenge but we did so here and one of the two reasons for doing so was to show Gabby as a winner. That’s either a very strong hint that Gabby will be a long term player and have a big impact on the season or that she’s had her shining moment and will be in trouble now that she has half the tribe gunning for her. Her next Tribal Council will be key for Gabby because, if she survives it, she could thrive far down the road.

4- Mike: From a strictly game perspective, the filmmaker was smart in abandoning Jeremy. The panegyric he gave to his friend showed that he wasn’t turning his back on him. He had simply come to the realization that all efforts to save him would be futile. Mike cut his losses, voted with the majority and will live to see another day. A day that we know will confront him with new tribe mates. It was said that fixing a bad first impression is very hard yet Mike did it with the Purple tribe. Now he has a chance to make a good first impression on some of the Orange tribe members so, if he survived despite a bad first impression, we can imagine that he should thrive with a good one.

3- Jon: I’m sure that before the season started many viewers expected that Jon would be the insufferable one. Maybe that applied only to those who knew nothing about Jon but wrestling isn’t exactly a social game so it wasn’t a big reach to picture him as the person who would be lacking self awareness and who would continually boast about his exploits. However, Jon has been a very down to earth character and now he’s managed to get Natalie through the first Tribal Council. Will it be enough for them to form a strong tag team? Even if he loses Natalie, I now expect to see Jon going far in the game. Even Christian idolizes him and wants to play with him so he has a built in alliance either after the upcoming swap or after the Merger. The wrestling star may just have the best social game around and, contrary to Alec, he hasn’t taken the lead in challenges so he isn’t really seen as a challenge threat either.


2- Nick: Here is the perfect example of someone playing both sides. Despite betraying Davie and Bi, Nick still has their entire trust and even if he spent a lot of time with the other side, Christian is still fully in on Mason-Dixon. Nick was on the right side of a big blindside yet he didn’t get any blood on his hands. That’s the way to play this game. We’ve heard about his touching personal story so, in Nick, we have a complete player who, right now, doesn’t really stand out. Those are great qualities for someone who is aimed at the ultimate goal.

1- Christian: The undisputed star of the first three episodes, Christian once more showed his puzzle building abilities in teaming up with Gabby to earn his tribe’s first trip back to camp with the Immunity Idol. Thinking ahead, we hear that Christian is already considering players on the other side at least when it comes to Jon. If those two wind up on the same tribe I think Christian could charm the wrestler into another unlikely alliance. If he is able to align with players from both sides then Christian could go on to the title of Sole Survivor.

Booted - Jeremy: While he was booted because the Muscle tribe didn’t really need him, rarely has a player gone to this length to get voted out. He kept saying Natalie was lacking self-awareness but he was blindsided by his whole tribe. Was there any suspense in the evening’s outcome? No but some of the best Survivor episodes didn’t have suspense about the vote. Sometimes it’s just so funny to see someone being set up for a unexpected exit that the suspense is not needed. Rodger elimination in the Amazon is still the best example of that but this one was hilarious also. As for a redo of Roots, I'll have you noted that Jeremy was against Natalie so it isn't as if an alliance by race is an automatic.

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2. "RE: Survivor 37 Player Rankings Ep. 3"
Let’s start off with your “suggestion.” When you enjoy a particular type of competition, i.e. hockey as much as I do, you do not delegate your viewing pleasure to only playoff implications. Case in point, we’ve watched the first three episodes of this season’s competition of Survivor even though the “real” game gets going after merge and the “playoffs” commence at F4.

With the exception of Angelina, Natalie and Alec, no major differences with our ranking placements. And those three differences hardly “knocked me off my chair,” as they did not surprise me for the following reasons:

Personally, I have always placed my primary emphasis on the recent episode for my weekly ranking. You tend to draw more from prior episodes than I do and probably factor in future occurrences from your Spoiler buddies. With that said, a similar ranking for Angelina was not a given despite her social gameplay in episode 3.

I figured it wouldn’t take you long to embrace pathetically inept Natalie benefitting from the ADS. So, putting her in the middle makes sense for you.

Same rationale for ranking Alec 17. Alec is not the most colorful of social butterflies you get all warm and fuzzy whenever they flutter their wings. But his efforts in the challenges merit consideration for his gameplay. And telling Jeremy what he thinks about sappy showmances is more “relevant” than what has been said (or not said) by at least half of this cast thus far.

Points of clarifications:

To save her ally Lyrca, Elizabeth pitched the idea to put the target on Jessica. She needed the Christian/Gabby partnership to get the simple majority, so yes, Gabby (with Christian) was imperative to follow through on the blindside. Bi, Davie, and Carl were closer to Gabby than to Elizabeth, so understandably felt more betrayed by Gabby for keeping them in the dark about the blindside.

As for the “Sequel to Roots.” had the tribal switch put Jeremy, Davie and Carl on the same tribe:
Jeremy wanted to write the Sequel with Natalie; that attempt was absolutely based on race. He tried on more than one occasion to deal the “Sista” card to Natalie, but she wasn’t having any of it. So, THAT'S why he "was against Natalie" and there wouldn’t have been a “chapter” in the “Sequel” involving her.

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3. "RE: Survivor 37 Player Rankings Ep. 3"
Even NHL officials call the playoffs the "real season" and there's really not much at play in the "regular" season. SIXTEEN of 31 teams make the playoffs so that'a joke in itself. Most teams alreay know they are going to make the playoffs, some already know they have no chance and the few that are on the bubble aren't even really focused on the games yet. They'll get in shape by december and then see where they wind up in April. If no one was eliminated from the game in the first 6 episodes then I'd say your comparison had merit but there is an elimination each time which makes it interesting... at least a times.

I often do I have to tell you that I do not bring spoilers into here. I respect the board even if it's old moderators do not anymore. Everything you read about my rankings is about the episodes we've seen and how I THINK the game may evolve.

Alec is boring. Even his challenge prowess have meant very little. And going against an injured Bi is nothing special. He'd be smart to fake an injury himself.

Natalie totally Outwitted Jeremy. That's the very nature of the game so I get it that you can't appreciate it to its true value. The funny thing is if she had found an idol and flipped a 9-1 vote against her into booting Jeremy on her lone vote, you'd be gushing over her while I'd be saying she was lucky to find that idol. For me Outwit is paramount, for you "Dig up Idols" is your fetish.

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