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"Going to the Chapel"
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Author |
Message Date |
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RE: Going to the Chapel |
Brownroach |
05-09-07 |
1 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
geg6 |
05-09-07 |
2 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
CantStandToLook |
05-09-07 |
3 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
4 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
foonermints |
05-09-07 |
5 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
9 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
foonermints |
05-09-07 |
20 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
21 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
foonermints |
05-09-07 |
96 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
32 |
Uh oh |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
33 |
RE: Uh oh |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
50 |
RE: Uh oh |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
63 |
RE: Uh oh |
txmomma26 |
05-09-07 |
65 |
RE: Uh oh |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
67 |
RE: Uh oh |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
68 |
RE: Uh oh |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
70 |
RE: Uh oh |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
75 |
RE: Uh oh |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
77 |
RE: Uh oh |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
78 |
Ooooooh! |
txmomma26 |
05-09-07 |
73 |
RE: Ooooooh! |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
79 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
foonermints |
05-09-07 |
44 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
48 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Snidget |
05-09-07 |
22 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
25 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
28 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
30 |
Oh fer heck, snort |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
31 |
RE: Oh fer heck, snort |
RudyRules |
05-09-07 |
90 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
37 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
SherpaDave |
05-09-07 |
6 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
geg6 |
05-09-07 |
7 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
11 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
PepeLePew13 |
05-09-07 |
8 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-09-07 |
10 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sophie |
05-09-07 |
16 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
12 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
13 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
35 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
thndrkttn |
05-09-07 |
14 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sophie |
05-09-07 |
17 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
thndrkttn |
05-09-07 |
23 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
24 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
26 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sophie |
05-09-07 |
27 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
29 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sophie |
05-09-07 |
34 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
PepeLePew13 |
05-09-07 |
36 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
40 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
43 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
46 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
52 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
61 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
72 |
Nutz! |
txmomma26 |
05-09-07 |
80 |
RE: Nutz! |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
82 |
RE: Nutz! |
txmomma26 |
05-09-07 |
83 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
satyrist |
05-09-07 |
89 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
byoffer |
05-10-07 |
133 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Ante Bellum |
05-10-07 |
144 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
thndrkttn |
05-09-07 |
53 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
PepeLePew13 |
05-09-07 |
59 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
weltek |
05-10-07 |
123 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
anotherkim |
05-09-07 |
58 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
StarryLuna |
05-10-07 |
151 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sagebrush Dan |
05-09-07 |
15 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Sophie |
05-09-07 |
18 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
qwertypie |
05-09-07 |
49 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Ante Bellum |
05-09-07 |
19 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
38 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
39 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
PepeLePew13 |
05-09-07 |
41 |
Yep |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
42 |
RE: Yep |
PepeLePew13 |
05-09-07 |
47 |
RE: Yep |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
56 |
*snort* |
northernlights |
05-09-07 |
86 |
RE: *snort* |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
87 |
Making notes... |
northernlights |
05-09-07 |
88 |
RE: Making notes... |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
104 |
RE: Yep |
Estee |
05-10-07 |
116 |
RE: Yep |
brvnkrz |
05-10-07 |
124 |
RE: Yep |
greenmonstah |
05-10-07 |
137 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
45 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
51 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Seana |
05-09-07 |
54 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
byoffer |
05-10-07 |
134 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Buggy |
05-09-07 |
57 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
62 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
66 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Snidget |
05-09-07 |
69 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
74 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
nailbone |
05-10-07 |
148 |
So wise. |
weltek |
05-10-07 |
120 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
qwertypie |
05-09-07 |
55 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
anotherkim |
05-09-07 |
60 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
64 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
weltek |
05-10-07 |
121 |
SWOOP |
Capn2patch |
05-09-07 |
71 |
OOP! |
ARnutz |
05-09-07 |
81 |
RE: SWOOP |
sharnina |
05-09-07 |
84 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
dabo |
05-09-07 |
76 |
Alright. |
txmomma26 |
05-09-07 |
85 |
UFB |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
91 |
RE: UFB |
Coconut |
05-09-07 |
94 |
RE: UFB |
greenmonstah |
05-10-07 |
135 |
COCO!!!!!! |
mrc |
05-10-07 |
142 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
RudyRules |
05-09-07 |
92 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
HistoryDetective |
05-10-07 |
130 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Estee |
05-10-07 |
139 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
HistoryDetective |
05-10-07 |
141 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Ante Bellum |
05-10-07 |
146 |
Let me put it another way... |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
93 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
95 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
97 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
Mon Cherie |
05-09-07 |
98 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
100 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
Mon Cherie |
05-10-07 |
111 |
Balls |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
103 |
RE: Balls |
Mon Cherie |
05-10-07 |
112 |
BTDT |
probably clueless |
05-10-07 |
113 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
99 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
brvnkrz |
05-09-07 |
101 |
RE: Let me put it another way... |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
102 |
ya,,,,so,,,,, |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
105 |
RE: ya,,,,so,,,,, |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
106 |
Lolipop Terminology |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
107 |
RE: Lolipop Terminology |
miamicatt |
05-09-07 |
108 |
RE: Lolipop Terminology |
probably clueless |
05-09-07 |
109 |
RE: Lolipop Terminology |
Snidget |
05-10-07 |
114 |
RE: Lolipop Terminology |
MKitty |
05-10-07 |
157 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Ahtumbreez |
05-09-07 |
110 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
HistoryDetective |
05-10-07 |
115 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Estee |
05-10-07 |
117 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Max Headroom |
05-10-07 |
118 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
DebCapsFan |
05-10-07 |
119 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
thndrkttn |
05-10-07 |
122 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
PepeLePew13 |
05-10-07 |
127 |
Operation Rescue Carmen? |
Mon Cherie |
05-10-07 |
155 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
HistoryDetective |
05-10-07 |
128 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
greenmonstah |
05-10-07 |
131 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
ginger |
05-10-07 |
138 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Lasann |
05-10-07 |
125 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Glow |
05-10-07 |
126 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
arkiegrl |
05-10-07 |
129 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
nailbone |
05-10-07 |
149 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
arkiegrl |
05-10-07 |
150 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
nailbone |
05-10-07 |
153 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
samboohoo |
05-10-07 |
145 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
Scuba Steve |
05-10-07 |
132 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
miamicatt |
05-10-07 |
136 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
CantStandToLook |
05-10-07 |
143 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
qwertypie |
05-10-07 |
156 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
jbug |
05-10-07 |
140 |
Ditto! |
Breezy |
05-10-07 |
147 |
typical Breezy |
brvnkrz |
05-10-07 |
154 |
RE: Going to the Chapel |
nailbone |
05-10-07 |
152 |
Show me the nana! |
Schnookie Palookie |
05-10-07 |
158 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
sharnina |
05-10-07 |
159 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
mysticwolf |
05-10-07 |
160 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
Ahtumbreez |
05-10-07 |
161 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
emydi |
05-10-07 |
162 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
StarryLuna |
05-10-07 |
166 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
mysticwolf |
05-10-07 |
169 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
arkiegrl |
05-10-07 |
163 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
brvnkrz |
05-10-07 |
164 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
arkiegrl |
05-10-07 |
165 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
probably clueless |
05-10-07 |
167 |
RE: Show me the nana! |
arkiegrl |
05-10-07 |
168 |
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:16 PM (EST)
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68. "RE: Uh oh" |
Do they make "Likability for Dummies"?
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:19 PM (EST)
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75. "RE: Uh oh" |
Yes. I'll buy it for you with my portion of your Dell refund.
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brvnkrz 20491 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:20 PM (EST)
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77. "RE: Uh oh" |
Yay!!! I feel so special. Wait? I just got insulted and ripped off. Hrmph. Arkie Rocks!!!
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:23 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: Uh oh" |
I only do it because I lvoe you!
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txmomma26 5825 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:19 PM (EST)
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73. "Ooooooh!" |
You are in soooo much trouble.
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:23 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: Ooooooh!" |
I am?
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SherpaDave 8326 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 05:39 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Marriage advice? "Don't," comes to mind.
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 05:49 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
I completely agree with Dave.
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 05:57 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Git down, girl... go 'head git down! On your knees!
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 06:39 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Nobody ever said you weren't welcome. Everyone is welcome here. We're just upset that we were lied to repeatedly and hope that it wouldn't happen again. Are we not justified? How would you feel if you were the one in charge of Carmen and someone else promised several times to send it back to you and you never received it?
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Buggy 5089 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 07:19 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
So you will pony up the 3 bucks postage and return it now?I'm sorry if you feel like people have come down on you unfairly, but from our perspective, you stole our banana. Maybe it is just a cheap inflatible banana to you, but to many of us, it was a symbol of the community, an actual thing that connected us, made the community real, and not just a cyber place. Made the people real, not just faceless words on the other side of a keyboard. People held it, and signed it, and posed it for pictures. It was a symbol of US. No one owned it, we all owned it. Nookie was selflessly it's caretaker, but it belonged to us all, in our hearts. I think maybe you didn't get that part, how special it is, how important a symbol of this community the bananas were. But then, you really never were interested in the community, only how you could reflect it's attention on yourself. And I am sorry if that sounds harsh to you, but if you look inside yourself, you'll know it's ture. And you are always welcome here, because that's how we are, that's how it is. But if you are going to steal from the community, you need to hear it, you need to take the lumps that come from that. I am glad for you that you are happy. Congratulations on your upcoming marriage, I wish you the best. I won't be offering any advice, because frankly, I know you won't listen. And like I said, you will always have a place here, but you'll be greeted more warmly if you return what isn't yours. That isn't mean, that's truth.
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 07:50 PM (EST)
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52. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Nutzy *hearts* Buggy
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Sagebrush Dan 10002 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 06:07 PM (EST)
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15. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Hiya Sophie. First off, congrats. He's a lucky fella.About marriage. Even though mine is not recognized by the state, something happened when we had the ceremony. It was a bond like no other that I've had. And it was wonderful. We had lived together for 15 years before getting married, and have been together 14 years since getting married. It keeps getting better. I LOVE being married. That bond is priceless. Advice? Adaptability (on both sides). It's worth it. I've had to shift a lot of me around, and so has he (I think he's done more shifting than I), and we're both better people because of it. Businesses cannot survive without adaptability, neither can good marriages. Don't be afraid of therapy when things get rough (or worse---->boring). I've been more than fortunate with Sagebrush Sweetie. It took a lot of looking for us to find each other. Had I stuck with the first few guys I fell for, my life would have been a living hell. So, if you're sure beyond all sureness that this is the guy, and you've considered all your other options, then go for it. Shucks ma'am, yer too late. I'm one of the Tribe Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. —Mark Twain
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:01 PM (EST)
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104. "RE: Making notes..." |
Just get one of those personal Ionic breeze thingies that you hang around your neck. You'll be fine.
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Buggy 5089 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 07:36 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Well said, Pepe.Part of a marriage is being able to stand the other persons faults. We all have them, but what can you live with? We all love our Love's good points, but it's those bad points you have to be sure you can tolerate.
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 07:45 PM (EST)
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51. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-07 AT 07:50 PM (EST)A friend of mine once said, "it's not about finding someone with qualities you want. It's about finding someone with faults you can live with". Or at least someone you can TALK TO about those faults or problems. You gotta be able to fight and fight fair. That means working it out without resentment. "Never go to bed angry" is good advice and it sounds super-easy during this honeymoon phase of the relationship. But as time goes on, that can become a really really hard thing to do. Are you prepared for that? How are you going to handle those arguments about sex, money or children? Because those arguments ARE going to happen and without that good foundation in place, they can get damn ugly damn quick. ETA: And one more thing in this epic post that probably makes no sense... Just from me to you -- Being lonely sucks. But there is one thing that sucks even more -- being lonely when you are married. Feeling alone when you are sharing a home with someone else. So be SURE. If that takes an extra year of being engaged, then do it. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here and pee-pee all over your happy moment, I'm trying to help you out. Take the advice from your friends who have been there -- they speak from nothing else but experience and are trying to help you avoid that experience. Divorce is ugly, painful and expensive.
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Buggy 5089 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:02 PM (EST)
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57. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Exactly!Wise you are. On a sidenote, this woman I work with is getting married at the end of the month. For months she has been gushing about the wedding, but everytime I see her Fiance, he seems less than thrilled about the upcoming vows. He always says, "Yes,Dear" to her, in this tone I recognize and hate. And I want to take her aside and tell her that, Yes,Dear sounds kinda cute and funny at first, but by year 3, it's boring. By year 5 it's annoying, and by year 8 it's patronizing. By year 10 it's embarressing, and by year 12, Yes, Dear, sounds an awful lot like F*ck You. By year 15 you are screaming at your husband, " DON'T YOU EVER CALL ME YES DEAR AGAIN!!!!" But maybe that's just me, and I should shut up.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 04:08 PM (EST)
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148. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Yes, dear No, dear Right away, dear
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 09:11 AM (EST)
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120. "So wise." |
LAST EDITED ON 05-10-07 AT 09:12 AM (EST)Being lonely sucks. But there is one thing that sucks even more -- being lonely when you are married. Well said, Catt. Sophie, listen to Catt. She has some wonderful advice on this whole subject I can say I've gone through that feeling and it was horrible. Luckily, we worked through it. But it took a lot of pain, time, effort and love to get through it. Go into marriage knowing that it will likely be filled with some pain and agony. Go through a mental list of everything that could put a strain on your marriage from finances to an affair. Think about how you'll handle those situations...and be honest with yourself. If you can say you'd work hard to fix things and he can say the same for 99% of those things and really try to honor that throughout, then I think you can feel pretty good. -An affair is one thing I'm not sure I could forgive. The anger, hurt and distrust would be sooooooo hard to get over. I'm not sure I'm a big enough person to get over something like that.
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05-09-07, 07:56 PM (EST)
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55. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-07 AT 08:01 PM (EST)Sometimes you have to take risks. DH and I were engaged end of March of '96, were married in September of '96. We had been dating for 2 years before this but lived in different cities. Many reasons why this could not have worked, but we are coming up to 11 years and I can honestly say I have married the perfect person for me. It hasn't always been easy, life has thrown us some curve balls, but I truly believe he is doing his best and has the best intentions for me/us/and the family and he feels the same way about me. Other advice - don't get caught up in the small stuff. Focus on all the good. eta -- I should also add that we spent 1 month in South America together where we knew very little Spanish so we basically had to rely on each other and be together 24/7 for 31 days. We had to deal with missed flights, cancelled hostel reservations, PMS (mine), altitude sickness and violent food poisoning. Hard to fake being nice when all that is going on. I hear that wallpapering together is another relationship test.
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weltek 16936 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 09:15 AM (EST)
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121. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
And there is no shame in breaking off an engagement. That's why I favor long engagements...you haven't invested in the entire wedding by month six when you realize it might not be the right decision. Then you don't feel the pressure of doing it anyway, just because everything is already paid for and in place. Sad, but true.
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Capn2patch 2785 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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05-09-07, 08:18 PM (EST)
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71. "SWOOP" |
You can't deny that a Swoop in this thread is somewhat appropriate
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ARnutz 13937 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:24 PM (EST)
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81. "OOP!" |
Nice try.
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sharnina 3083 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity"
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05-09-07, 08:31 PM (EST)
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84. "RE: SWOOP" |
LAST EDITED ON 05-09-07 AT 08:31 PM (EST)Except that you, well... you missed it. But have to agree - very appropriate. I, for one, can't wait to meet Carmen. And have to agree with all the above posts about rushing into marriage. If you haven't gotten invitations yet, I would postpone and make sure you get some really great pre-marital counseling. Just get to know each other. Save the cheerleader, save the world. Are you on the list? Someone flies, someone dies.
Shar's World ETF - speeling
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dabo 26942 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:20 PM (EST)
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76. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
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txmomma26 5825 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 08:42 PM (EST)
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85. "Alright." |
My thoughts from the been there, done that school.I was 18 when the ex and I met. We went to college, we split up. We got back together and did the long distance thing. I moved to be near him and we ended up pregnant and married within 6 months. I was barely 20. That lasted a couple of years and I had to get.out. He and I both changed a lot in those few years. Some of it was growing up, a lot of it was the responsibility of marraige and a child. A person changes so very much between 20-25 years of age. And even more when they marry. At that young of an age, you have to have your eyes wide open with no illusions of grandeur....you have to realize that in a few years, you two may be two totally different people who just don't get along. And, you may grow closer together. You just don't know. I'd say give it a year of togetherness and another 6 months of engagement/living together before you get married. It's a lot easier to split if there are no legal ties. And for goodness sake, one of you MUST find a new job. Living and working together do not make a happy home most of the time. Another beautiful SyrenWould this be the wrong place to spout divorce statistics? What about agreeing with much that was said up thread about responsibility to others? How about the cost of marraige (not including the wedding)?
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 09:15 PM (EST)
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91. "UFB" |
Your 15 minutes of romance and drama are over babe. Handcrafted by RollDice®
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Estee 57126 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 11:26 AM (EST)
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139. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
*looks skeptical* And that was the main reason RR told you not to get married?
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 09:29 PM (EST)
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93. "Let me put it another way..." |
With a story. And I want you to really listen to me, Sophie. I'm serious as a mother ####ing heartattack right now and that doesn't happen very often.I was married for 3 years. I asked my husband to leave. 3 days later, he came over to the house, got on his knees and BEGGED me to let him come home. I said "no". Now he's dead. Died alone in his apartment, by his own hand (albeit wrapped around a vodka bottle), 2 months after our divorce was final. As happy and content as I am now, don't think for one second that that image of him crying on his knees with his arms wrapped around my legs doesn't haunt me frequently -- and will haunt me for the rest of my life. His alcoholism was starting to present itself before we got married. Had I waited an extra few months, I would have seen it and known and been able to avoid all of that. So ask yourself -- is 12 extra months too much to sacrifice to save yourself that kind of pain? I'm not suggesting that your DF is a raving alcoholic (or possibly a lunatic), nor am I suggesting that you shouldn't be happy or excited. I'm just suggesting that there is nothing wrong with stepping back for a second and excercising a little patience, and seeing how the next few months play out. There may be things there that you didn't see before. And besides, if there's one thing you need A LOT of in marriage, it's patience...so it'll be a good excercise. And I could be wrong and if I am? I'll shout it to everyone who will listen. A year from now, when you are married and blissfully happy, you can call me up and tell me I'm an a$$hole and I'll happily agree with you. Nothing bad can come from waiting a little while longer. If it's meant to be, it will be. And if it isn't? Well then you just saved yourself a whole bungload of hurt and trouble. Win-win, baby. Damn...now I've gone and made myself sad. DBF better get home soon. Debbie Downer, indeed.
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 09:35 PM (EST)
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95. "RE: Let me put it another way..." |
That's exactly the kind of compassion I was trying to express in my post. Handcrafted by RollDice® *Catt's just much more elequent*
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:00 PM (EST)
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103. "Balls" |
Summa is wide open, so if you want to head south we can knock some around or even play golf. Handcrafted by RollDice® *In this town, those are basically the best two options*
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 00:42 AM (EST)
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113. "BTDT" |
Canes R good. I've been elusive. Nice TJ Babe! Will get in touch, one way or another. Handcrafted by RollDice® *Posted in AiP BTW*
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 09:58 PM (EST)
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102. "RE: Let me put it another way..." |
What can I say? It's a really cool church.
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:06 PM (EST)
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105. "ya,,,,so,,,,," |
Was Calle Ocho and Brickell last weekend. Nothing too exciting, just visiting. Handcrafted by RollDice® *If I said it was exciting you might want details and then I'd be compelled to answer questions which I can't answer because I can't exactly remember. *
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:20 PM (EST)
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106. "RE: ya,,,,so,,,,," |
Ah drunk and single in Miami. Yeah your life must suck. *smooch*
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:26 PM (EST)
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107. "Lolipop Terminology" |
How exactly do you define 'suck'? Handcrafted by RollDice® * In life, sometimes you're the sucker, others, the suckee *
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:34 PM (EST)
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108. "RE: Lolipop Terminology" |
Hmmmmmmm....perhaps I need to go to church again.
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-09-07, 10:58 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: Lolipop Terminology" |
Perfect lead in for my new favorite artist - MikaTake a look at a boy like me, never stood on my own two feet, now I'm blue, as I can be, oh love come get me down. Singing, suckin' too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down, suckin' too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down. Say love, say love, oh love's gonna get ya down. say love, say love, oh love's gonna get ya down. I went walking with my mama one day, when she warned me what people say, live your life until love is found, or love's gonna get you down. Singing, suckin' too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down, suckin' too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down. Say love (say love), say love (say love), oh love's gonna get ya down. say love (say love), say love (say love), oh love's gonna get ya down. Mama told me what I should know, too much candy gonna rot your soul, if she loves you, let her go, cuz love only get's you down... Whoa-oh, whoa-oh, whoa-oh, lollipop. Whoa-oh, whoa-oh, whoa-oh, lollipop. Sucking too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down, say, sucking too hard on ya lollipop, oh love's gonna get ya down (lollipop) Handcrafted by RollDice® *I like Grace Kelly better though*
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MKitty 2976 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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05-10-07, 06:14 PM (EST)
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157. "RE: Lolipop Terminology" |
I LOVE that new CD! I play it over and over....
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HistoryDetective 9516 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 06:41 AM (EST)
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115. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
I only browsed the rest of this thread, but I read enough to agree with everybody who says that you should wait longer before getting married.And that is not a generic, all-purpose "you." That is a YOU, Sophie, should wait longer before getting married. Based on your prior experiences, I don't get the impession that you have know this guy long enough to know if you are "in love" with him or just "hopelessly in love" with the idea of being in love. I am not trying to be mean. I understand wanting to be half of a relationship and wanting to feel that connection --- but it is something that takes time and it is something that cannot be forced. I think you need to look at your past misadventures with relationships and ask what you can learn from them. You do not necessarily need to discuss them with us or with anybody else, but you do need to be honest with yourself and truly introspective. Until you can do that and you can say without a doubt that you are getting married for the right reasons, I suggest a loooooooong engagement.
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Max Headroom 10069 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 08:32 AM (EST)
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118. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
While others have already said it better than I will, I also recommend waiting for a while before getting married. My parents divorced a few years ago after 36 years of marriage, and I watched how both of them handled the aftermath.Mother: Dated selectively, found someone she liked, and is now part of a long-term couple with no intention of marriage. Happy ending. Dad: Found out really quick that being single and alone sucked, so he cycled rapidly through a series of "Miss Right Now" women with assorted major issues before finding someone marginally tolerable and marrying her. They've been married for a few years now, he doesn't seem any happier, and everyone else in the family thinks he made a poor choice in marrying her. Unhappy ending. DW and I have been married for almost 11 years now and marriage is work, but it's worth it. The good times are fun and uplifting, but the bad times are what test your relationship. We've been through good and bad and are still happily together. Think about it for a while before getting married.
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Mon Cherie 1813 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Herbal Healing Drugs Endorser"
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05-10-07, 05:31 PM (EST)
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155. "Operation Rescue Carmen?" |
I think Carmen, if in Florida, is not too far away from me, IIRC. I'd be willing to take one for the team and pick her up, if we knew where she was.
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Lasann 3616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge"
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05-10-07, 09:37 AM (EST)
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125. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
I think I'll just "ditto" all above.
Heaven on Earth! That’s me lying on the beach *giggle*
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Glow 14353 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 09:50 AM (EST)
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126. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
And I'll just go ahead and ditto Lasann.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 04:13 PM (EST)
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149. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
And if it is, can I watch?
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arkiegrl 9421 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 04:15 PM (EST)
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150. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
OK, but no camera this time.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 04:27 PM (EST)
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153. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
Aw man!!
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Breezy 18380 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 02:36 PM (EST)
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147. "Ditto!" |
Pretty much everything up there.
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nailbone 27263 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 04:24 PM (EST)
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152. "RE: Going to the Chapel" |
DW and I have been married 25 years next month, and dated for four years before that. As has been said NOTHING bad can come from waiting. "Hopelessly in love" is *NOT NOT NOT* a good state to be in when you're getting married. Take a while of being together to let the "hopelessly" part go away. Have a few fights and see how each of you handles that. Spend some time apart and see how each of you handles that. And spend long periods of time together to see how each of you handles that. AND spend some time where one or the other of you is sick, and see how each of you handles that.You're gonna squeeze the toothpaste wrong, and he's gonna leave the toilet seat up...or down and wet. He's gonna buy something that you think is silly and a waste of money. And vice versa. He's gonna want to go out with the guys, and you're gonna want to watch a chick flick at home cuddled on the couch. Somebody's gonna forget to pay a bill, and somebody's gonna answer the phone when the creditor calls. Once a month, every month, you're gonna get hormonal. And eventually, you might have pregnant and VERY hormonal. Do you want to keep working after you're married? How closely do you work together at your company? what happens when you have a fight? Do you want kids? Does he? How many? How soon? You gonna keep working after the kids come along? How does he feel about it? I could go on and on. Until you have a pretty good idea how you, and he, are gonna handle EVERY ONE of those situations, you don't need to get married.
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Schnookie Palookie 16822 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 07:47 PM (EST)
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158. "Show me the nana!" |
Hi Sophie,I have no advice for you re marriage because I know you won't listen to it. You always just seem to follow your own heart. Congrats on your engagement. I sent you my mailing address a looooooooooong time ago and I still haven't received Carmen. IF, you still do have Carmen, then it would be really nice if you could return her. If you have lost my address, send me an email through here and I'll resend my address to you. IF, you DON'T have Carmen, then just tell us. It may not seem like a big deal to you but like Buggy said, it was something special that brought so many of the people here together for the first time. People spent money buying accessories for the nana and spent money mailing her out. I spent a lot of time organizing the tours. It would just be nice of you to fess up. Do you have Carmen or not?
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 09:08 PM (EST)
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160. "RE: Show me the nana!" |
I can ditto this. That's my feeling, too. *sigh*Since I was the one who suggested her name it would have been nice to meet her. *shrug* Life happens. I'd ditto the waiting on the marriage advice, too. But, like others I doubt it will do any good. I will say, just in case Sophie is still reading, that I do not ditto the peeps that are suggesting that being married & working together is necessarily a bad thing. It depends on what you do, what your respective work responsibilities are, and how well you work together as a team. DH & I will be celebrating 25 yrs. this year. We worked together in the same department when we married. Shortly after we married he became my boss. (No. We had no idea things would play out that way when we married.) For us it worked really well. We made a great team. Synergy, and all that. We miss those days. But, we may well be a rarity. It doesn't work well for many. Taking the time to find out before cementing the union is definitely the way to go. Yes. We went from dating to marriage in a matter of months. But, we'd known each other, worked together, and been friends for a few years before the dating stage even started. Frankly, over time? "Love" is overrated. "Hopelessly in love" is unsustainable and unrealistic. Truly being friends with each other is much more important. IMO. Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary
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Ahtumbreez 10456 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 09:36 PM (EST)
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161. "RE: Show me the nana!" |
A short message to Sophie:If I were you I probably couldn't help myself and would still be reading this thread. So here goes. At least pm Schnookie. Let her know something. Anything. We've all done dumb things before, and even if you can't make it right by sending Carmen back you can make it better by letting Nookie know something. Just my nickel's worth.
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StarryLuna 4771 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 10:21 PM (EST)
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166. "RE: Show me the nana!" |
I agree with Mystic on the whole working together thing. My DH and I dated for 8 years and lived together for 2 years before we were married. Most of that was just due to the fact that we were college students, and then just poor post-college students.Anyhoo, two days after we married, DH started working for the same school system I do. Now, we're not in the same building - he's in the central office and does tech support for all of our schools, but I do still see him at least 2 to 3 times a week at work. Having him around has actually made my job a little easier, as he understands better why I get stressed out and he's close by if there are ever any problems. But the fact that we work in separate buildings is probably better than being in the same school. However, our county employs several married couples, many of whom work in the same school. Some of the met while working at their various schools, so I know that marriage and working together CAN work, you just have to do your part to take care of it, like any marriage. Siggy by tribe
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mysticwolf 10692 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 11:30 PM (EST)
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169. "RE: Show me the nana!" |
Yep. We're in Informtion Systems (computers), so it's not code. He was software (programming), I was hardware (equipment, security, connectivity, etc.)We had some instances where someone would try to play "mom vs. dad" carp, trying to play us against each other. Didn't work, because we didn't let it work. Our areas were our areas and we trusted each other to know what we each were doing. But, at the end of the day, we both knew what issues each of us had faced, and on a few occassions, when one of us had a political issue with the higher-ups the other could intervene (and political is both figurative & literal - we worked for the government - on, at that time, as members of different political parties), either by giving perspective, or by diffusing the situation. And, we always knew, without having to completely rehash the day, what the problems were and what the triumphs were. Nonetheless, the relationship didn't happen overnight, even if our marriage eventually did. Again, literally. Partly because of logistics, partly because of politics, we eloped and married in front of a Judge - interrupting a trial to do so. The biggest thing is... We had formed a sound foundation as friends, first. "True love" & hickeys are nice, but friendship keeps things together, And, part of friendship is honesty. With each other, and with yourself. You really want to marry this guy and have a nice life together? I congratulate you and wish you well. But, if you can't be honest about something as seemingly inconsequential, to you, as a blow-up banana with people you haven't met? IMO, you're not mature enough to understand what real marriage, friendship, and committment is comprised of. Good luck. I hope you prove me wrong. Tribe sent springtime flowers! blogging's scary
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probably clueless 5782 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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05-10-07, 10:39 PM (EST)
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167. "RE: Show me the nana!" |
If that peach comes with a pear I got a nana to bring to the party. Handcrafted by RollDice® *Show me the fruit!!!*
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