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"SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Please keep all discussion of tonight's filler and results on this thread until after the show has aired on the West Coast.

No sig pics, sig pics make Nigel decide he needs to choreograph a number.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT whimsey 07-24-08 1
   RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT Snidget 07-24-08 2
       RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT whimsey 07-24-08 4
 RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT vince3 07-24-08 3
   RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT DoodleBug 07-24-08 5
 Intro Snidget 07-24-08 6
 Group Number Snidget 07-24-08 7
   RE: Group Number Snidget 07-24-08 8
       Maldonado DoodleBug 07-24-08 10
           RE: Maldonado Snidget 07-24-08 15
               RE: Maldonado DoodleBug 07-24-08 23
   RE: Group Number whimsey 07-24-08 9
   RE: Group Number DoodleBug 07-24-08 12
       RE: Group Number Glow 07-25-08 90
 Jidges Snidget 07-24-08 11
 Results part one Snidget 07-24-08 13
   RE: Results part one DoodleBug 07-24-08 14
       RE: Results part one Snidget 07-24-08 17
           RE: Results part one whimsey 07-24-08 18
               RE: Results part one Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 19
               RE: Results part one Maroonclown 07-24-08 20
                   RE: Results part one Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 22
                       RE: Results part one Maroonclown 07-24-08 27
                           RE: Results part one Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 33
                               RE: Results part one Maroonclown 07-24-08 43
                                   RE: Results part one Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 47
                                       RE: Results part one memzoo48 07-25-08 115
                                           RE: Results part one sharnina 07-25-08 140
                       RE: Results part one Snidget 07-24-08 28
                   RE: Results part one Snidget 07-24-08 25
                       RE: Results part one Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 30
                   RE: Results part one syren 07-25-08 92
 RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT Maroonclown 07-24-08 16
 Results part two Snidget 07-24-08 21
   RE: Results part two Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 24
   RE: Results part two iatovttotx78 07-24-08 26
       RE: Results part two Snidget 07-24-08 32
           RE: Results part two iatovttotx78 07-24-08 35
               RE: Results part two Snidget 07-24-08 46
               RE: Results part two syren 07-25-08 94
                   RE: Results part two Snidget 07-25-08 106
                       RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 110
                           RE: Results part two Snidget 07-25-08 121
                               RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 124
                       RE: Results part two syren 07-25-08 128
                           RE: Results part two Snidget 07-25-08 129
                               RE: Results part two syren 07-25-08 130
                                   RE: Results part two Snidget 07-25-08 131
                                       RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 134
                           RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 133
                               RE: Results part two Snidget 07-25-08 135
                               RE: Results part two syren 07-26-08 145
                                   RE: Results part two Glow 07-28-08 146
       RE: Results part two Maroonclown 07-24-08 34
           RE: Results part two Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 42
               RE: Results part two Maroonclown 07-24-08 45
               RE: Results part two DoodleBug 07-24-08 50
   RE: Results part two DoodleBug 07-24-08 29
   RE: Results part two frodis 07-24-08 31
       RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 91
   RE: Results part two Sagebrush Dan 07-24-08 83
   RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 98
       RE: Results part two Sagebrush Dan 07-25-08 117
           RE: Results part two Glow 07-25-08 120
 Results part three Snidget 07-24-08 36
   RE: Results part three DoodleBug 07-24-08 37
   RE: Results part three Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 38
       RE: Results part three whimsey 07-24-08 44
   RE: Results part three iatovttotx78 07-24-08 40
       RE: Results part three Glow 07-25-08 100
           RE: Results part three Snidget 07-25-08 104
               RE: Results part three Glow 07-25-08 111
           RE: Results part three DoodleBug 07-25-08 113
               RE: Results part three Glow 07-25-08 138
   RE: Results part three Glow 07-25-08 93
 The least climatic results ever.... Snidget 07-24-08 39
   RE: The least climatic results ever... starshyn99 07-25-08 101
   RE: The least climatic results ever... SilverStar 07-25-08 116
       RE: The least climatic results ever... Glow 07-25-08 119
           RE: The least climatic results ever... Snidget 07-25-08 122
               RE: The least climatic results ever... Glow 07-25-08 125
                   RE: The least climatic results ever... Snidget 07-25-08 126
                       RE: The least climatic results ever... Glow 07-25-08 127
 Los Angeles Ballet Snidget 07-24-08 41
   RE: Los Angeles Ballet whimsey 07-24-08 51
   RE: Los Angeles Ballet Sagebrush Dan 07-25-08 87
   RE: Los Angeles Ballet Glow 07-25-08 95
 Happy Dance Segment Snidget 07-24-08 48
 Solos Snidget 07-24-08 49
   RE: Solos Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 52
       RE: Solos Sagebrush Dan 07-25-08 86
   RE: Solos starshyn99 07-25-08 102
       RE: Solos aethelstan 07-25-08 105
           RE: Solos Snidget 07-25-08 107
           RE: Solos starshyn99 07-25-08 118
 RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT Maroonclown 07-24-08 53
   RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 54
       RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT syren 07-25-08 96
 Solos part two Snidget 07-24-08 55
   RE: Solos part two Maroonclown 07-24-08 57
       RE: Solos part two Snidget 07-24-08 59
           RE: Solos part two DoodleBug 07-24-08 60
               RE: Solos part two Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 62
   RE: Solos part two Sagebrush Dan 07-25-08 85
 LL Cool J Snidget 07-24-08 56
   RE: LL Cool J whimsey 07-24-08 68
 Why.... DoodleBug 07-24-08 58
   RE: Why.... Snidget 07-24-08 61
 Girl leaving us tonight is.... Snidget 07-24-08 63
   RE: Girl leaving us tonight is.... Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 64
   RE: Girl leaving us tonight is.... DoodleBug 07-24-08 69
 The Guy leaving us tonight is.... Snidget 07-24-08 65
   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Ahtumbreez 07-24-08 66
   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... DoodleBug 07-24-08 67
       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... brxxt 07-24-08 70
           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-24-08 72
           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... DoodleBug 07-24-08 73
               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-24-08 74
                   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... citywitch 07-25-08 108
                       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-25-08 109
                       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Glow 07-25-08 112
                           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... ulalame 07-25-08 114
                               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Glow 07-25-08 123
               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... brxxt 07-24-08 75
                   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-24-08 76
                       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... brxxt 07-24-08 77
                           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-24-08 78
                               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... DoodleBug 07-24-08 80
                               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... dragonflies 07-24-08 82
                                   RE: stupid question OT lynkfri13 07-25-08 84
                                       RE: stupid question OT sharnina 07-25-08 88
                   RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted o... lynkfri13 07-24-08 81
                       RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted o... qwertypie 07-25-08 89
                       RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted o... Glow 07-25-08 103
               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... syren 07-25-08 97
                   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Glow 07-25-08 99
                   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... skeetergirl87 07-25-08 132
       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Sunny_Bunny 07-25-08 136
           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-25-08 137
               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Glow 07-25-08 139
               RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Sunny_Bunny 07-25-08 141
                   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Snidget 07-25-08 142
                       RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... Sunny_Bunny 07-25-08 144
           RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... DoodleBug 07-25-08 143
   RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is..... whimsey 07-24-08 71
 Thank you, Snidget whimsey 07-24-08 79

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07-24-08, 07:38 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Hey, Snidget! Goin' to the bar, what'll it be?
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07-24-08, 07:42 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Can you whip up a mango or peach daiquiri for me?
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4. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
There ya go. A pitcher of mango daiquiris - mangoes were great this week at the market.
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3. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
I am hoping for a carnage-inducing group number in honor of Guest Jidge Tony Basil..........
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07-24-08, 08:10 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Just please let it not be to "Hey Mickey". I loathe that song.

I am a child of the 80's and remember that this song was incessantly on the radio..... and that awful video with her in a cheerleading uniform. BLEH!

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07-24-08, 08:16 PM (EST)
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6. "Intro"
Cat in a white Greek Goddess Dress. I think she wore it just for Bullzy.
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7. "Group Number"
Universal Mind Control (UMC)
Common
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8. "RE: Group Number"
Chuck Moldanado (sp?)
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07-24-08, 08:22 PM (EST)
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10. "Maldonado"
http://www.dancersunlimited.org/~chuck/
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15. "RE: Maldonado"
Thanks for the link

gee that's weird saying that

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07-24-08, 08:34 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Maldonado"
Just following your lead, darlin'
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07-24-08, 08:20 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Group Number"
Interesting.
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12. "RE: Group Number"
I'm going to have to watch that again to get the full feel. Lots of stuff going on. I liked it though!
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90. "RE: Group Number"
I watched it a few times. I wasn't sure if I liked it that much the first time. After the second time though, I was loving it. There was a lot going on. Too much to pay attention to in one viewing with that awful, awful camerwork. I can see a closeup here or there on each dancer but the spinning around and cutting the stage in half drives me insane.
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07-24-08, 08:22 PM (EST)
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11. "Jidges"
Toni, Mary, Nigel.

Toni. When I transitioned to street there were no classes and I had to find those people. As your career grows you want more information, there is a lifetime of dances and dance styles you never master barely any of them, much less all of them. Dance is my addiction, my drug of choice.

Nigel. Has an announcement. Asked by declareyourself.com to vote in the presidential election. Speech.

Tonight looking for the bottom two guys and girls.

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13. "Results part one"
Does the AI they are backstage watching and calls them out one at a time to the stage.

Katee is safe

Will is in the bottom two guys.

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07-24-08, 08:28 PM (EST)
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14. "RE: Results part one"
The golden boy is in the bottom two?!? This is going to be interesting...... (I'm giddy)
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07-24-08, 08:29 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Results part one"
Has America finally tired of the constant pimpage?
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07-24-08, 08:31 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Results part one"
Let's hope.
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19. "RE: Results part one"
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 08:34 PM (EST)

I'm so happy

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07-24-08, 08:33 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Results part one"
Mkay, I thought pimpage was going to Twitch - but what do I know.

I just want that Mark guy gone.

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22. "RE: Results part one"
*kick
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07-24-08, 08:36 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Results part one"
MmmmmHmmmmm. And here we differ. You can have Mark and I'll take Jason.

Deal?

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33. "RE: Results part one"
Nope. I need Jason to sing while Mark dances.
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07-24-08, 08:48 PM (EST)
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43. "RE: Results part one"
Now c'mon, you can't have it all. You are a very, very greedy girl.
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47. "RE: Results part one"
*snort

Hey I was all about sharing Jason with you until you tried to bamboozle me just now.

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115. "RE: Results part one"
Y'know what? I'll just take both of 'em off y'alls hands until you decide, mkay?

Don't be surprised if they're tired and sweaty when you get 'em back.

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140. "RE: Results part one"
Rode hard and put up wet.


GUESS WHAT! I got a FEV-ah -- and the only pre-SCRIP-tion
-- is MORE COWBELL!

Shar's World

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28. "RE: Results part one"
I guess there is no accounting for taste.

GO MARK!!!!!

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25. "RE: Results part one"
Twitch gets his fair share, but he's has a depimpage at least once. I don't think Will has been anything other than praised and praised and praised.

He's good, but he isn't always all that.

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30. "RE: Results part one"
and Snidget is being generous. They give Will a freaking tongue bath every single week. Ugh.
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92. "RE: Results part one"
I agree MC. I think that he was the lowest of the ones left and was extrememly sad that he wasn't in the bottom.
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16. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 08:29 PM (EST)

I'm here to try and represent.

Bullzy is drinking his face off at the Toronto summer peep meet in Burlington right now - I not gellus or anything.

So let me have a go at this - "Swoon* *Thud* Cat can wash my feet anytime.

ETA - Oh crap, that should have been posted up^there^

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21. "Results part two"
Comfort is in the bottom two girls.

Mark
*bouncing up and down*
*hoping this means he is safe*
*they can't do both bottom guys first can they*
*pacing*
*enough of the clips already*

Mark is safe

He's so cute when he's shocked!!!

*Happy DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!*

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24. "RE: Results part two"
Woo and freaking Hoooooo!
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26. "RE: Results part two"
I think I just vomited a bit in my mouth
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32. "RE: Results part two"
I don't suppose there can be happy vomit, like tears of joy?
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35. "RE: Results part two"
Yeah, no. Vomit is always bad. One of my favorites is definitely leaving tonight. I hate America
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46. "RE: Results part two"
The problem with this show is there are usually way too many good dancers so a lot of people go home too soon.

It's kind hard to have 8 people all be in the final four, but I usually feel like that is the way it should be.

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94. "RE: Results part two"
I agree. However I don't hate America, I hate fake dialers who to me are much worse than judge pimping.

Twitch and Will are far better than Mark. You can only hop around like a frog playing the piano so many times before it becomes less than quirky looking.

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106. "RE: Results part two"
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What exactly is a "fake dialer"?

Am I fake because I use dial idol? I vote for who I want to win. I do often vote for those the judges don't like IF (big IF) I like them and feel the dumping on they get is completely unfair. Getting dumped on when other people are praised regardless of how I do does tend to motivate me to vote more for the underdog.

I don't usually vote for Will that much because I don't like him as much as other people. If I'd voted for two guys this week he might have been the other guy, but the blatent favortism got me motivated to vote only for one guy. I usually vote for about 1/2 the field most weeks.

ETA: I get you don't like Mark, but I do, a lot of other people seem to, and that doesn't make me fake. I know some people do vote just to screw with the show, but most of the people I saw here or other boards wanting to power vote for Mark have always liked him. Can't blame them for being more motivated than the Will voters were.

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110. "RE: Results part two"
"fake" was an odd choice of word.
*pokes Snidge to see if she's "real"*

and yes, this:
"Getting dumped on when other people are praised regardless of how I do does tend to motivate me to vote more for the underdog"

and this:
"I get you don't like Mark, but I do, a lot of other people seem to, and that doesn't make me fake. I know some people do vote just to screw with the show, but most of the people I saw here or other boards wanting to power vote for Mark have always liked him. Can't blame them for being more motivated than the Will voters were."

I'd change that "most" to all because I haven't seen anybody anywhere voting for Mark other than because he is their favorite or because of the blatant UN-due UN-favoritism. I've seen people that were motivated to vote for the first time for any contestant on any show because they just don't understand the way the "judges" speak to him because they (the motivated to vote fans) really like him.

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121. "RE: Results part two"
I won't vote for an underdog just because they are dumped upon. However if someone I like gets dumped on I'll vote harder for them than I usually do. This time I had fewer people on my dial idol cue (Mark for the first quite awhile then I added Katee as she wasn't polling well in the early voting and I wanted Comfort out of there) and did some extra Mark voting on my cell phone.

Now I'm a big voter every week (since I got dial idol) but I do see fans of the show and fans of a person that don't bother to vote until something gets their ire up or motivates them like a bottom two scare.

Of course you see that sort of thing in any election. Some people only care enough to vote because of a situation or to vote against something rather than because they are for someone. After all how many "anybody but Hillary" peeps were there just a few months ago. Something about us humans just makes us perverse like that.

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124. "RE: Results part two"
"I do see fans of the show and fans of a person that don't bother to vote until something gets their ire up or motivates them like a bottom two scare."

ding ding ding
All those people that were quietly loving Mark spoke up. Add that to the ones who were never so quiet and there you have last night's results.

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128. "RE: Results part two"
No, you are a real person, not a fake computer.

I do think that using a system I guess like DialIdol, although I have never used that so I cannot say for sure that is what I am talking about, is much worse than say the judges over pimping someone to win. It takes the fairness out of the 'game'.


If someone uses something that repeatable dials for them, sometimes many more times than the average phone user can actually dial, then to me, it is cheating.

You do have one thing wrong though. Never have I said I did not like Mark. Never. I have said though that out of the dancers left he was the weakest. And he is. I also said that I like everyone that was left.

I just feel that it was unfair to a dancer as skilled as Will to be voted out because the judges over pimped him instead of based on his skill set.

As far as what you added, I never said you or anyone on this board was a fake person. But to clairify to me using a fake dialer is no better than fixing a ball game. It is a form of cheating. I have no idea if that is what dialidol is because I have never, and probably will never look at it or even use it. If I dial I will only do as much as what my fingers can do.

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129. "RE: Results part two"
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FWIW, dial idol seems slower than if I just hit redial a bunch of times for the whole voting window. Basically it is the computer hitting redial instead of me doing it. Even at it's fastest setting it seems to take longer to notice it got through and get dialing again than I can do manually.

I like that it keeps track of the busies vs votes as nights when I feel like I get busies all the time I can see that I am actually getting through more often than I thought I was. Which also motivates me to keep voting when I know sometimes the line really isn't busy every single time I vote. It also lets me not have to dial in the bathroom, or stay up past my bedtime.

I also like I can pick several people to vote for and don't have to have a list of phone numbers handy when I decide it is time to change from person A to person B then back again.

Edit for clarity

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130. "RE: Results part two"
That isn't really what I was meaning then.

There are dialers that are quick, and fast, and dial one person repeatedly. I have seen their employment on other forums and I think it totally takes away from it.

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131. "RE: Results part two"
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Theoretically the mass dialers (huge banks of phones all calling the number) are things the shows claim can be detected and they also state that should they find them they will delete those votes. I've seen people on VFTW.com say they have overseas call centers doing that, but I dunno if they really do.

I don't know anything that redials a single phone line faster than a motivated tweenager. It still takes the same amount of time to send and connect no matter how fast it hangs up and redials.

As long as AI and its associated programs allow unlimited voting people will find a way to get a phone to dial itself repeatedly rather that just hitting the redial. Like I said with dial idol it waits an amount of time to connect before redialing and that is usually more time than I need if I'm listening to the phone.


ETA. the one nice thing about dial idol (there is a thread with the numbers posted in AI and SYTYCD all the time) is that it also collects the busys vs votes from users. Not enough people use it for SYTYCD to get good data, but I like checking it ahead of time for spoiler info so I know if I likely need to get myself prepared or I can breath easy.

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134. "RE: Results part two"
Where the whole mass voting thing really comes into play is computer-based voting. There is a trick to it. When you have to click to vote and then wait for it to register and bring you back to that voting screen... this happens a lot with those popularity kind of polls (who is your favorite Idol for example). I read somewhere how to do it (I think it must have been on an MJ board). It really made a HUGE difference in numbers. You could get 50 or more votes in before another person got in their second. (Which makes you wonder about Rock Star when you could do computer voting.)
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133. "RE: Results part two"
Eff. I can't even read the next few posts before I respond to this one so if I repeat anything that's already been said that I didn't get to yet... well tough.

"Never have I said I did not like Mark. Never. I have said though that out of the dancers left he was the weakest. And he is."

You saying it doesn't make it true to "us" any more than me saying he isn't that weakest Twitch is (by a freaking mile) makes it true to "you". Which... whatever. There is an incredible amount of adaptation in some dancers (Mark/Katee/Chelsie/Joshua/Will/Courtney) that there just isn't in others (Twitch). Twitch leaned up against a door for half of a dance and laid on a bed for half of another one. So for anybody to discredit somebody's technique that isn't somebody who choreographers make allowances (like props) for is just really strange to me. You are, however, absolutely entitled to your opinion as much as we are entitled to ours. And you are allowed to vote your beautiful fingers off for Twitch if you so choose to. syren, and you know I adore you, but do you really think there aren't Twitch and Joshua fans out there using DialIdol?

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135. "RE: Results part two"
Yep, as much as people complain about Worster-types using Dial Idol (like they are the only ones) even with as few people voting as we have on SYTYCD compared to AI there does seem to be a lot of breadth to the fan bases using the program.

Now there is usually more votes for some performers than others, but it is pretty much an across the board thing and the differences aren't that big. I do not think dial idol is any worse than people having parties for a given contestant where they pass out pre-paid cell phones to those that show up to increase the vote for one person.

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145. "RE: Results part two"
How about...I lvoe you and we leave it at that.

{{{hugs}}}

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146. "RE: Results part two"
works for me. *smooch*
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34. "RE: Results part two"
Xcellent. So you're in my camp? As uneducated as that might be? I'm only going on the few times I've watched this damn show.

But I saw the bed routine and that rocked my world (and DH's in an entirely different way )

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42. "RE: Results part two"
We do agree on that. I loved the bed dance, Twitch and Kherington. One of my two favorites. The other was Bleeding Love, which was Mark and Chelsie.
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45. "RE: Results part two"
I would have liked Cerringtonne more if she she spelled her name correctly.
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50. "RE: Results part two"
And I will add to that list "No Air" - A Joshee routine
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

((((GLOW)))) HIGH FIVE!!!!!

*sniff* I feel like my vote actually DID count....

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31. "RE: Results part two"
Mark owes all of you wonderful people a lovely fruit basket to thank you for saving him.

Heck, I'll send you all fruit baskets for saving him.

YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!!!!!!!!

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91. "RE: Results part two"
He doesn't owe me anything (though I can only speak for myself). Knowing I will be seeing him grace my television screen again next week is payment enough. *does happy dance*
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83. "RE: Results part two"
gaaggagagagagagagaaaaaagaaaaaa!!!! What!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!
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98. "RE: Results part two"
Ivan's latest video blog is up. Tyce is his special guest. Some interesting stuff. He talks about all the seasons (calls Season 2 "the heart and soul season") but the really interesting part comes at about 5:40.

I love that people have different opinions. That's what makes us interesting. The anger towards Mark and his fans for him being safe is a little absurd though. I am very much a real fan who dialed with her fingers to rally behind my favorite. I am in no way a "fake" dialer.

Benji WON season 2! How could anybody possibly be upset that Mark made it to the Final 6? Granted, I'd have rather seen Twitch go of the four left. He is good at what he does but these guys have to learn to dance all the styles. I feel he is by far the weakest one in that regard. So should I be mad at the people who voted for Twitch and saved him?

In a perfect world, as Nigel said going into the Final 10, they could eliminate two girls. But. There will always be somebody upset at this point. Even if it was two girls leaving. One of your favorite or one of my favorites is going to leave every week. That's how this works. It's subjective. I love Mark. I think he is a very important, dare I say crucial, element of this season. You don't love Mark? Okay. But to say he is the worst of the four guys that WERE left, is untrue. He *gets* the differnt styles. He can be your least favorite but to say he's the worst just isn't true.

Anyway. This is a show that's winner is America's Favorite Dancer. He is mine so I will vote for him. I love to watch the dancers that can do many different styles well. Thank God I'm not alone. If he does leave next week, I will vote for my second favorite and, I'm sorry to tell you all, that isn't Josh or Twitch either.

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117. "RE: Results part two"
Thanks for the blog link. Tyce's observations about the different seasons came through in the show as well.
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120. "RE: Results part two"
You're welcome.

This was a few weeks ago, I guess. Ivan (my sweet baby Ivan) said they were almost halfway through. I'm wondering if Tyce has changed his mind since then because that Mark/Kherington "jazz" was not his best effort.

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36. "Results part three"
Chelsie is safe

Twitch is in the bottom two

Twitch looks really upset.

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37. "RE: Results part three"
poor Twitch.....
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38. "RE: Results part three"
Not so happy about Twitch in bottom two. Keeping fingers crossed it's Will going home!
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44. "RE: Results part three"
Here, here.
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40. "RE: Results part three"
Breaks my heart. I didn't know the best way to try to counter the Mark push. I spent two hours last night voting for Josh. Maybe I should have spread the votes around to Will and Twtich too. I don't know how. I guess I could have mugged some people and stole their phones so I could vote for all three. *tears* At least my Joshies safe.
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100. "RE: Results part three"
Yeah. Everybody always says that spreading votes (especially this far into it) is never a good idea. It's good that you voted only for Josh if he is your favorite.

There was a show, I swear, that only allowed five or ten votes per phone number. Does anybody remember that? Or did I dream it?

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104. "RE: Results part three"
DWTS and some of the other vote in shows limit the number of votes (I think LCS did but I can't recall).

AI produced shows tend to do the unlimited voting because they lvoe the high vote totals.

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111. "RE: Results part three"
okay. For some reason, Ivan and Travis popped into my head when I thought of that. Maybe I only voted 10 times back then. heh.
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113. "RE: Results part three"
It was Debbie Allen's show with the "triple threat" (dancing, singing, and acting).....Fame? I think that was it. Only on for one season. I remember you could only vote so many times from your line and remember wondering why AI didn't do that.
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138. "RE: Results part three"
oh okay. I didn't watch that show. I probably would have liked it!
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93. "RE: Results part three"
Little overdramatic, Twitch?
That being said, no matter which of the two guys went home, I was going to be sad. This is the time in the competition that always gets rough. (ALLISON - S2)
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39. "The least climatic results ever...."
Joshua is safe

Courtney not looking happy back stage is called out
She is in the bottom two.

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101. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
Yeah, am I the only one who thought that the way they did the eliminations this week were a little uncomfortable? I mean, Courtney just looked so sad back there all alone knowing that she was in the bottom.
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116. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
The way they did the results last night was horrific. Poor Courtney. I get that they probably needed to stretch the filler out, so they called them out individually. But when it got down to 2 guys and 2 girls, they really should have brought them out together. That's how they did it on AI, right? To have Courtney sitting back there all alone, knowing she's in the bottom 2 was just ridiculous. Not to mention that she knew she was in the bottom 2 for a looooong time before they got around to her. They called like 2 or 3 other people out there even after it was apparent.

I am so disappointed in this season. Every week, I start to hate this show a little more. I can't believe it. *sigh*

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119. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
Yes! That's the way AI does it.

I still love the show but am increasingly disappointed in the permajudges.

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122. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
I don't remember AI bringing out the last one all alone after they already did the math.

This year they did to the one at a time thing, but always brought the last two out together so there was the drama of who is it going to be?

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125. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
My "yes" was in response to this:
"But when it got down to 2 guys and 2 girls, they really should have brought them out together. That's how they did it on AI, right?"
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126. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
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127. "RE: The least climatic results ever...."
*smooch*
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41. "Los Angeles Ballet"
The Man I Love
from the ballet Who Cares?
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51. "RE: Los Angeles Ballet"
Outstanding.

Would have been *excellent* if the lighting had been better. Could barely see both partners sometimes.

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87. "RE: Los Angeles Ballet"
Wonderful to watch. This was amazing stuff. The grace of the woman's legs was a marvel.
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95. "RE: Los Angeles Ballet"
Beautiful!
If that was a Pas de Deux, I have no idea what we saw D&D choreo (but it was still gorgeous).
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48. "Happy Dance Segment"
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49. "Solos"
Comfort
Like This
Mims

Will
Closer
Goapele

Cat asks Nigel: Will was technically the bewst, his solo was great so what went wrong. Nigel says Twitch and Will were the best and sometimes people think they are so good they are going through.

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52. "RE: Solos"
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 09:01 PM (EST)

Or maybe were just sick of wiping you saliva off our tv sets.

eta: Nigel's saliva not Snidget's

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86. "RE: Solos"
Exactly. He doesn't get the effects of overpimpage.
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102. "RE: Solos"
They cannot even resist pimpage in the results show. Will is the only person that they have spoken to after he danced a solo. And they wonder why America is disenchanted with him and the blatant favoritism.
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105. "RE: Solos"
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-08 AT 08:55 AM (EST)

Actually, I think the reason they did this was because Will was leaving. This was strictly an editing issue as the show was going long. (My clock showed it ending at 10:01)

I'm convinced that the judges spoke to all four of the bottom four dancers but they only showed Will because he was going home. They didn't show Comfort either because it was essentially repeating the same things they said last week.

When they didn't show the judges talking to Twitch, I knew Will was going home.

One thing to add though: when the "Chosen One", as many of you have put it, goes home, it certainly makes it seem like the results aren't fixed.
My guess is that Mark, Twitch and Will were all within a few hundred votes of each other and it was the Mark voters here that made the difference. (nah. I have no clue. just joking here)

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107. "RE: Solos"
I think who goes home is who gets the least votes.

Where the "fixing"/manipulation comes is in the choices made for contestants and what the judges do.

Did anyone else catch the thing in the credits where they say it is all random? Have they always done that, or is that new to try to get the conspiracy theorists off their back?

I know the dancers say there is only one card in the hat. Now they could pull random assignments until they get the one they want and then not let the dancers do the randomizing with all the names in the hat.

Anywho. I don't believe the pairings or the dance choices are completely random (like I said you can pull the stuff out of a hat a few times until you get one you like). There is also things like dance order, who gets better lighting, etc. that can all be used to try to mess with the vote totals.

I do think who gets the lowest votes goes home as I think that even though it is "entertainment" and not a "game show" I think the feds could make a deal of it if they just sent home who they wanted regardless of the votes. I do wonder if sometimes they may put someone that isn't bottom two in the bottom two in order to motivate the voters or to convince voters that someone is safe. If Mark was the other one in the bottom two, putting Twitch there in his place will motivate the Twitch voters and make sure Mark is out at F6.

I do think Twitch is the secondary TCO with Will being the first TCO. Will because he'll be good press for the show in the dance world. Twitch because the story of not quite making it last year to work hard so he wins this year is also a very engaging story line. Twitch hasn't got quite the tonguebath Will has as routinely, but he's gotten more than his fair share.

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118. "RE: Solos"
But have we ever seen the judges speak after the solos on the results show? Yes, after the person is told they are leaving, but I can't recall after their final solo.

Plus, isn't the Thursday show live? That would eliminate editing, or is it done on a delay?

I'm not saying that you are wrong in the least. That could be the explanation, I just was curious and can't remember it happening before.

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53. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Would it be wrong of me to say I hate Comfort? Or is it Khomfourt?
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54. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
Dang, back to agreeing. Actually, I don't hate her but I will be glad when she's gone.
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96. "RE: SYTYCD-4 7/24 Top 8 ECUT"
I agree that she needed to be where she is at. She was the weakest female left.

However, Mark should have been there too. Will dances beautifully, and Twitch has done exactly what the show says it looks for...grown, matured, evolved. Mark is the same as Mark started.

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55. "Solos part two"
Courtney
Passion
Kreesha Turner

Twitch
Hollywood Swinging
Kool and the Gang

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57. "RE: Solos part two"
Twitch was kinda hot. But when he just walked off the stage like that he was a bit of a beyotch.

And I'm thinking the t-shirt thing is a bit pompous

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59. "RE: Solos part two"
Once with the T-shirt was cute.
Three times is a bit much.
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60. "RE: Solos part two"
IV Real

*giggle*

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62. "RE: Solos part two"
*slaps forehead

OMG, I just got it! The IV Real thing. *hangs head

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85. "RE: Solos part two"
Courtney's solo was one of the best female solos this season. Wow!
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56. "LL Cool J"
Performing his new single
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68. "RE: LL Cool J"
I am always amazed by him, but I don't know if he's too old to keep trying this genre, or if he's too young to be thought of as over the hill.

Funny, I felt the same way when I say Will Smith performing at the Hancock premier with DJ Jazzy Jeff. But not when I saw George Michael on "Eli Stone".

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58. "Why...."
didn't Twitch do that solo last night?!?!?! That was HOT!! I really hope Will is leaving tonight.

And Courtney's was great too! OMH!

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61. "RE: Why...."
Yep, I liked both these solos better than the ones last night.
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63. "Girl leaving us tonight is...."
Comfort
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64. "RE: Girl leaving us tonight is...."
Yay, now please, please, please Will.
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69. "RE: Girl leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 09:18 PM (EST)

Predictable.

ETA: Surprise swoop!

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65. "The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Deep Breath...Will
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66. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Doing the happy dance! Whew.

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67. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Whoo hoo! America got it right!!

Now watch.....Debbie Allen will be the next guest jidge...

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70. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Why all the Will Hating? I'm confused he is a great dancer and he seems humble. It's not his fault the judges love him. Is he supposed to go out and try not to be as good as he is so the judges will give him bad comments?
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72. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 09:29 PM (EST)

No one is asking him to be bad.

Just I don't think he has fully deserved all the praise heaped upon him as if he is the one that will save all dance.

A lot of times when there is too much favoritism by the judges people start rooting for the one that we are being ordered to vote off next rather than the one the judges decided long ago should win the competition and can do no wrong.

Also people have different tastes and all the dancers are so good that there is not going to be one fan favorite every single person likes the most.

Am I not allowed to like Mark more than Will?

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73. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Hate? I don't hate Will. And they are all great dancers, but I'm happy to see the extra pimpage from the Nigel and his crew didn't work this time. Sorry it has to be at his expense because you are correct, it's not his fault.

With that said, did you vote?

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74. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
I also don't think anyone is mad at Will for getting weekly tongue baths.

However the only way to screw over the judges who feel the need to ram him down our throats is to vote for someone else.

If anything the hate is for Nigel and the joy is that his attempts at manipulation were finally seen through by the people at large.

I hope Will has a great career. I think he might have won if the judges weren't trying so hard to tell the American people we are bad and wrong and ignorant if we don't make the person Nigel wants to win the winner at the end.

You find on most of these shows The Chosen One (TCO) doesn't win. People think they are the chosen one when even their mistakes are just proof of their perfection like Paula said about David Archuleta on AI.

I would like the judges to at least attempt to be objective, but part of the show is that they over pimp their favorites into losing and someone that has something that appeals to America in entertainment value tends to win over The Chosen One. The harder the show tries to force the winner, the less likely they are to get what they want.

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108. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
The harder the show tries to force the winner, the less likely they are to get what they want.

what fun if all the judges on these shows (esp. AI & SYTYCD) finally get the message & start trying to use reverse psychology. we'd have to busy ourselves examining the editing & possible mis-directions ala Survivor

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109. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Simon's done it occasionally, but he's usually done it as a joke. Like when he praised Sanjaya because it finally was clear to him people would vote for Sanjaya just because Simon kept making pack your bags you are going home this week noises.
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112. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-08 AT 09:51 AM (EST)

That's funny you say that. A lot of conspiracy theorists/grassy knollers *shifty eyes* think this is likely the case. Because seriously? they'd have to know by now that sometimes, nay, MOST times unjust overpimpage hurts their favorite instead of helps them. How could they not get that by now? I mean, Nigel's IQ drops to the age of the girl (or guy it seems in most cases) he's panting over but somebody else has to realize this and tell him.

I mean... right? Maybe they don't have any common sense though. You can tell us over and over that Will is Christ but if we don't believe in him or in what you're preaching, we ain't converting. But if you calmly *looks at Mary* tell us that he is really good and explain why that is, then maybe we can start to see what you see. It sucks to have to drown out what the "judges" say on these shows. They need to judge instead of pimp or DE-pimp. Then maybe one of these days, somebody who truly deserves to win Will win.

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114. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Frankly, I thought the choice among the top 4 guys was very hard, and that Will may have been the best dancer. The reason I think Will was the one who got sent home this week, is because America understands that Will is no longer an amateur and his career is already made. The other male dancers are less trained and have more innocent desire to win. People know that Will is going to get a job booked tomorrow, due to his relationship with Debbie Allen and how well he did on the show.

It really wasn't a diss against Will, it was more the fact that America wants to see the true amateurs dance.

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123. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
oh, I agree. I think in most cases it was not against Will at all. Yes, to some extent for some people it was because his career is in the bag already. The fact remains though that we, the voters, have to believe in their "product". And I think that Will didn't have enough people feeling him. If he got through to me on the same level as Marky-arky, I'd have voted my butt off for him (and I said that I would have voted for him if Mark were to leave). Debbie Allen or no Debbie Allen.

I stand by my comment that the judges need to judge instead of pimp.

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75. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
I don't vote on a regular basis. I wasn't trying to offend anyone by asking the question and everyone is allowed to like whoever they want i never said otherwise. I was simply surprised by the amount of people who wanted him gone. The final result dosen't matter to me at this point they are all great dancers. It was just a simple question about why so many people wanted Will gone nothing more nothing less.
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76. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 09:58 PM (EST)

Well when you say "Will Hating?" that tends to have certain implications that wording the question a different way wouldn't have.

ETA: Welcome to the boards! We can be a snarky bunch and some of us tend to be a bit conspiracy minded when it comes to shows, but we have a lot of fun.

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77. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
It's just to bad that Will has to suffer just because some people don't like Nigel.I can't imagine that Nigel is aware of the reason Will was voted off. In fact I imagine he thinks it's because so many people think Will is so great that they don't think they need to vote for him because everyone is voting for him. I would be willing to bet you aren't messing with Nigel as much as you think you are. But then again what do I know?
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78. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 10:05 PM (EST)

Given that this sort of thing has happened every year on AI for 7 seasons and every year on SYTYCD for 4 seasons now you think he'd know how the American public reacts to over pimping.

Heck, they may do this just to get the shocking elimination that drives the ratings. Although I'm sure they also want their favorites to win over who America likes and don't care if they are really unfair with the judging. After all getting outraged about the judging seems to make people watch.

ETA: I think Will may also not get votes because there are a lot of people that think he already has his career since he is mentored by Debbie Allan and doesn't really need this show to get ahead.

I don't think he is going to suffer that much going out at this stage rather than at the win. He has gotten enough exposure that he'll get more work than he would have otherwise because people know he has the name recognition now to get people to buy tickets.

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80. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Yeah, what Snidget said. Well put.

I tend to root for the underdog in these shows. Will was clearly not the underdog for me. Even though I think he is a great dancer (and his solo was the best for me last night), I still didn't vote for him. I gave all my votes (maybe 10 each) to Josh and Mark. Katee got my girl votes.

Would I have been upset if Will stayed? Nope. That's how it goes. I'm hoping Katee wins the whole thing anyway.


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82. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
I actually like Will, but he is the Archie of SYTYCD this season. Plus I didn't want to see either of my boys Joshua or Twitch go. So I am satisfied with the results tonight.
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84. "RE: stupid question OT"
>I actually like Will, but he
>is the Archie of SYTYCD
>this season.

Sorry to ge so ignorant, but who is Archie?

I've missed pieces of AI and SYTYCD over the past few years, so if he's been a famous contestant, please enlighten me?

Sorry to go off topic, but it seemed it would be more confusing to start another thread


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88. "RE: stupid question OT"
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-08 AT 00:50 AM (EST)

David "Archie" Archuletta (sp) was the runner-up in the most recent AI.


GUESS WHAT! I got a FEV-ah -- and the only pre-SCRIP-tion
-- is MORE COWBELL!

Shar's World

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81. "RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted out because of the judges?"
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 11:55 PM (EST)

I've been in hospital for a few weeks, so I haven't read the boards here. (I did see the shows - but didn't have computer to read the messages) I didn't realize how much the judges drooling over Will was having such a negative effect on many people.
IMHO.....I thought Will was absolutely great in several numbers. The night they had the Alvin Ailey dancers, I actually agreed with Nigel that Will's solo was good enough to audition to dance with the Alvin Ailey troupe.
I do agree the judges went over the top in praising Will. But I still voted for him, and am sad to see him go.
I'm really sorry for him if his exit was influenced by the judges praise, or people's perception that he doesn't "need" to win he show cause he already has a career carved out.
I am sorry to see him go, but I do love all three remaining male dancers, and would have been sad no matter who was eliminated.

Sorry about blowing hot air, but my point is that I just wish
that the voting would be purely about the dancing.

That said, I'm glad Mark is still here.(Even if I think Will is actually technically a better dancer.) Marks performance (dancing and creating a character) for the "Bleeding Love" number was just insane, and I predict it could be showcased as one of the seasons' "favorite" numbers in the finale,

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89. "RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted out because of the judges?"
Glad to hear you are out. Hope you are feeling better.
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103. "RE: The Guy leaving- was he voted out because of the judges?"
We always want these shows to be about the dancing or the singing (hello, Michael Johns, why did you pop into my mind?) but they never are. It's unfortunate. That's why they say this is to find the favorite dancer because a lot of the times, most of the time, the best doesn't win. Though that is subjective as well. That's what happens when you let fans vote but you have to let them have a say to keep them watching. If we didn't have a say, the winner would be carved in stone from the beginning. Will should not have gone last night but that's just my opinion. I can't be upset about it though because I didn't vote for him. I was more concerned with who I wanted to stay.

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97. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
While everyone might not be mad at Will for getting weekly praise, I guess maybe it clouded how he was seen.

Will is a beautiful dancer. A great dancer. One of the best on the show. I think it is so very sad that he is gone.

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99. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
Will is a beautiful dancer. He irked me once or twice and his treatment was tiresome but he definitely deserved to be in the final four without question. He suffered a lot because of his connection to Debbie Allen from the start so I am happy he made it this far but he should have gone on. Absolutely. I was even prepared to vote for him and his shiny belt buckles (if Mark were to leave). I am truly sad that he is gone. He will go on to do great things, I have no doubt.
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132. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
It could also be that it has nothing to do with reaction to the judge's overpimpage of Will, or his lack of amateur standing. To me, he was probably the best dancer, technically, but his personality just didn't come through like the others. I also don't see that he's grown much through the season - he was so good to start with that he didn't seem to have to work as hard as the others. I've loved seeing the other three struggle and grow and that created a connection with me to them. They've also done a better job of letting their personalities show - Will always seems kind of removed from it all. Maybe he's shy or just has a hard time letting go of his stage presence. Whatever it is, he's got a great career ahead of him!

It was hard to see any of them go and next week is going to be even more brutal!!


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136. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-08 AT 01:36 PM (EST)

Actually, I love Debbie Allen as a jidge. She's far more into giving real, usable suggestions to the dancers than screaming Mary or Nab-a-Date Nigel.

That being said, I know the talk has been the over pimpage of dancers (particularly Will) but to me, the pimping/tongue bathing of choreographers has gotten wayyyyyyy out of hand. LOL

Mia IS a wonderful one, but the Patron Saint of Dance she ain't. LOL!

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137. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
AMEN!!

It does get old that they have to waste so much time praising the choreographers. Sure they are great, yes they win Emmys, but sometimes 1/2 the comments are about the choreographer.

I'm tired of typing that out...need a short hand for that....CTB, how is that (I can put it in the thread starter that I'm not typing it anymore an CTB means they are giving a choreographer and extended tongue bath.

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139. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
They are probably afraid Mia will leave the show. Some of her routines are brilliant. It would be a shame to not have her as a regular. I don't so much mind the CTBs. Sure they annoy me but they kind of have to kiss their butts.
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141. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-25-08 AT 07:06 PM (EST)

We turned the CTB's into a drinking game. Now you know why we don't post till the next day!

It's nice to give them credit, but when they START the comments with " _____________ is a god/goddess. Didn't he/she/they create genius that will transcend the modern dance world and make them immortal? Aren't you, the contestants lucky to be dancing their work ..."

Um, I thought the show was about the DANCERS. The young, talented, growing, learning, expanding their horizons dancers.

Silly me.

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142. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
*snort*

Oh, who knows, drunk posting could be fun, at least for us.

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144. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LOL, except that whenever I try to chat when tipsy my typing looks a lot like Mattbens. lmao!
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143. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
I didn't mean it to sound like I dislike Debbie Allen. I lvoe her. She's been waiting in the wings all season long. But I'll have to laugh if she's there next week. I'd like to see her before the finale.
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71. "RE: The Guy leaving us tonight is...."
LAST EDITED ON 07-24-08 AT 10:13 PM (EST)

Move along son, to bigger and better things. Will may be surprised at the next opportunity. I hope he realizes it's an opportunity, may just not be dance.

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79. "Thank you, Snidget"
For another great hosting job!
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