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"Dial Idol Rankings"
Well, since some consider Dial Idol spoilers I didn't want to put this in the Should Go/ Will Go thread.
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Susie & Marquis 11.4

Rayven & Jamie 7.8

Jessica & Will 5.18

Courtney & Gev 2.99

Chelsea & Thayne 2.26

Chelsie & Mark 2.15

Kherrington & Twitch 1.51

Katee & Joshua 1.18

Comfort & Chris 0.64

Kourtni & Matt 0.13

I'm actually pretty amazed by these. Susie #1? Wow. Katee & Josh in the bottom 3? Wow!

So, with these, I'm thinking Katee & Matt go home? Maybe? I don't think any of those girls should be going home.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 RE: Dial Idol Rankings Snidget 06-12-08 1
 RE: Dial Idol Rankings ulalame 06-12-08 2
   RE: Dial Idol Rankings emydi 06-12-08 3
       RE: Dial Idol Rankings CTgirl 06-12-08 4
 RE: Dial Idol Rankings pmspml5 06-12-08 5
   RE: Dial Idol Rankings Snidget 06-12-08 6
 RE: Dial Idol Rankings LostAddict 06-16-08 7
   RE: Dial Idol Rankings Snidget 06-16-08 8
       RE: Dial Idol Rankings LostAddict 06-16-08 9
 RE: Dial Idol Rankings pmspml5 06-19-08 10
 Week 2 LostAddict 06-19-08 11
 Week 3 LostAddict 06-26-08 12
   RE: Week 3 Snidget 06-26-08 13
       RE: Week 3 LostAddict 06-26-08 14
           RE: Week 3 Snidget 06-26-08 15
 Top 14 Snidget 07-03-08 16
   RE: Top 14 LostAddict 07-07-08 17
 Top 12 Snidget 07-10-08 18
   RE: Top 12 LostAddict 07-10-08 19
       RE: Top 12 Snidget 07-10-08 20
 top 10 Snidget 07-17-08 21
   RE: top 10 emydi 07-17-08 22
       RE: top 10 Snidget 07-17-08 23
       RE: top 10 Glow 07-17-08 24
 Top 8 Snidget 07-24-08 25
   RE: Top 8 LostAddict 07-24-08 26
 Top 6 Snidget 07-31-08 27
 Top 4 Rankings Snidget 08-07-08 28

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1. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
LAST EDITED ON 06-12-08 AT 01:46 PM (EST)

Do they have the nationwide full count posted anywhere? I'm guessing the sample size is a lot smaller (I'm not in the count as I never got a busy signal) so the results are going to be a lot less accurate.

I had this at the end of my voting period, and for AI it doesn't alway match the website so I'm not sure where these numbers are from.

Jessica and Will 9.481
Susie and Marquis 8.44
Courtney and Gev 6.314
Chelsie and Mark 3.366
Rayven and Jamie 3.274
Chelsea and Thayne 2.712
Kherrington and Twitch 2.335
Katee and Joshua 1.314
Comfort and Chris 0.498
Kourtni and Matt 0

ETA: Finally got Dial Idol site to give the overall totals.

Numbers look like what was on my Dial Idol, for once, but may be because my computer rebooted and I lost my individual data. Sigh

Here are the ranks from the site

1-3 Jessica and Will
1-3 Susie and Marquis
1-7 Courtney B and Gev
3-10 Chelsie and Mark
3-10 Rayven and Jamie
3-10 Chelsea and Thayne
3-10 Kherrington and Twitch
4-10 Katee and Joshua
4-10 Comfort and Chris
10 Kourtni and Matt

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06-12-08, 02:19 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
>>I'm actually pretty amazed by these. Susie #1? Wow. Katee & Josh in the bottom 3? Wow!<<

Me, too! I'm guessing the fact that Susie is a teacher has helped her in the public voting -- probably all the kids in her school were frantically voting for her.

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3. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
I was just coming to post that..lots of teens texting/voting.

I don't understand Twitch and Josh tho...if these are the 3 I think Katee and Matt/Chris are in trouble but right now I'd rather see Comfort go than Katee but she's a fave and only breaker chick...and Kourtni is Nigel's fave so she's not going anywhere.

If it's Chris and Katee will they let Comfort/Josh pair up? They were very close, they were always shown together in Las Vegas

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4. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
I wonder if the Hispanic population votes a lot - I'm guessing that off of Helio Castroneves winning DWTS and Christian de la fuente doing so well.

They were both good dancers - Helio had a great personality and Christian was injured and battled through it so that was part of their appeal. I thought Mel B. should have won and was surprised Christian did so well so I always wondered if they had another demographic helping them with votes.

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5. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
1-3 Jessica and Will
1-3 Susie and Marquis
1-7 Courtney B and Gev

These three would have been my bottom 3 - are we sure this is right?

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6. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
LAST EDITED ON 06-12-08 AT 05:31 PM (EST)

There may be some validity to them.

Dial Idol can only measure busy signals for the people that the dial idol users are voting for.

Early in the season it tends to have accuracy problems because depending on where you are you may not get any busy signals. I didn't get a single busy last night.

It isn't designed to be a scientific survey of the phone votes. It happens to be able to collect data from people who use it to vote and it is about the only view we have of the phone voting process. Zabasearch claims it measures the text and phone votes for American Idol, but they are always wrong and change their predictions after the show airs and we all know the right answer.

I don't know how many SYTYCD people use it to vote compared to American Idol.

Anyway, in conclusion. Early in the season it tends to be much less accurate than later in the season when there are lots of busy signals to measure as there aren't many people left.

ETA: America rarely shares my taste in talent, so I'm often way off what the vote says the bottom three should be.

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06-16-08, 08:41 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
Well, guess it was off. Oh well, I tried.
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8. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
I think it is worth posting them. Just early in the season they aren't going to be all that accurate because there aren't enough busy signals to get a good sample.
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9. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
I agree. Even looking back on the past seasons they haven't been very accurate compared to AI.
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10. "RE: Dial Idol Rankings"
The rankings for week 2 are too close to call - everyone is ranked the same
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11. "Week 2"
The rankings are too close to call, but I'll post the percentages anyway:

Kherrington & Twitch 1.33

Chelsie & Mark 0.77

Courtney & Gev 0.72

Katee & Joshua 0.64

Comfort & Chris 0.22

Kourtni & Matt 0.18

Jessica & Will 0.06

Chelsea & Thayne 0.05

Susie & Marquis 0


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06-26-08, 09:23 AM (EST)
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12. "Week 3"
We have nothing.... They gave everyone a 0 dial idol score. It's up in the air!

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13. "RE: Week 3"
All are +/- 4 points so that makes them all read zero unless you scroll over them.

Koutni and Matt 3.468
Courtney and Gev 3.228
Katee and Joshua 2.816
Chelsie and Mark 2.218
Comfort and Chris 0.199
Kherrington and Twitch 0.104
Jessica and Will zero
Chelsea and Thayne zero

The last two had no busies recorded.

# votes cast by Dialidol peeps (who got at least one busy signal)

Kherrington and Twitch 5.76K
Katee and Joshua 4.55K
Chelsie and Mark, 4.20K
Courtney and Gev 2.58K
Jessica and WIll 2.53K
Kourtni and Matt 2.20K
Chelsea and Thayne 1.15K
Comfort and Chris 0.79 K

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14. "RE: Week 3"
But they are all really too close to tell aren't they?

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15. "RE: Week 3"
However I do think the trends are interesting even if not statistically significant.
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16. "Top 14"
Another week where the margin of error is bigger than any score.

So here's a look at the trends.

Dial Idol Scores and notes from looking at the graphs

Kourtni and Matt 1.423 (had spikes in busies during the night)
Coutney and Gev 0.813 (had spikes in busies during the night)
Twitchington 0.746 (started off the night with lots of busies)
Katee and Josh 0.723 (started off the night with lots of busies)
Comfort and Thayne 0.334
Chelsie and Mark 0.292
Jessica and Will 0.146

The last three couples were all really flat in busies all night.

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07-07-08, 01:28 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Top 14"
another week down, another week without any predition. at least one worth looking at.

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18. "Top 12"
Margin of Error is in the +/- 4 range so no statistically diference.
We are just seeing trends here. They must be using the AI phone banks with 1/2 the number of people voting, even for AI there didn't seem to be as many busies this year, and if you don't have busies, you don't have data for these predictions.

Joshtee 2.268
Gevney 1.99
Marksie 1.58
Willica 0.21
Twitchington 0.035
Thayfort zero

Busy percentage graphs, looking at the invervals.

Joshtee had two big spikes which seems to indicate they are likely to be safe
Marksie and Gevney both had some spikes, not as high but obviously different from the rest of the pack

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19. "RE: Top 12"
I looked at these this morning and didn't even bother posting. Thanks Snidget. I wish we could get a better predicter.

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20. "RE: Top 12"
No on else seems to do predictions, it is nice to get any insight at all into how America is voting although this year it mostly tells us how DialIdol users are voting and they aren't always a representative sample.

Zabasearch ones for AI were useless, especially since they changed them after each results show to appear to be 100% accurate. They do not seem to do them for other shows.

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21. "top 10"
Dial Idol
Dancer Busy Percentages (Rank in number of Dial Idol Vote)

Courtney 0.79 (2)
Chelsie 0.37 (2)
Kherington 0.35 (4)
Katee 0.21 (1)
Comfort 0 (5)

Mark 0.7 (1)
Joshua 0.44 (3)
Twitch 0.42 (5)
Gev 0.21 (4)
Will 0.15 (2)

Girls with the east coast voting has zero percent busies recorded, which might make the dialidol score really funny as it looks over time so I put in the Busy percentages above.

Courtney had the largest peak
Kherington and Chelsie had double peaks about the same height as Katee's peak

Comfort was just SOL for this week in getting any busies, she did get votes from DialIdol users.


So trend-wise it looks like the girls at risk for the bottom two are

Comfort
Kherington
Katee

With Comfort likely being the one to go home.

for the guys the percentage graphs have the following features

Twitch had a huge percent busy at the beginning but was not that impressive the rest of the night.
Joshua started out strong and had some other blips as other voting windows opened
Mark, Gev and Will had a few spikes later in the night with the later voting windows opening, and Mark had a lot of busies at the end, maybe the West Coasters were power voting for him?

for the guys the risk seem to be
Twitch
Gev
Will

Too mixed to tell who is going home, but Twitch and Gev seem most at risk unless that early voting frenzy keeps Twitch safe.

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22. "RE: top 10"
There was a Made in Hawaii (or something like that) sign for Mark in audience last nite...I said he'll get the Jasmine vote
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23. "RE: top 10"
Forgot about Hawaii power voting.
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24. "RE: top 10"
Hawaii! Yay!

As an aside, he has choreographed for Jasmine.

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25. "Top 8"
Graphs and raw numbers aren't adding up (Mark on graphs has no busies at all, but graph may not get all the West coast/Hawaii, I think it does three hours of the night so may not be all inclusive).

Here are some numbers

Dancer-%Busy

Girls
Katee-0.68
Comfort-0.35
Chelsie-023
Courtney-0.19

Guys
Mark 1.47
Twitch 0.31
Will 0.19
Joshua 0.15

Dancer-Votes

Girls
Katee-8.29K
Chelsie 4.85K
Courtney 3.59K
Comfort 0.861 K

Guys
Mark-6.24K
Joshua-4.56K
Will-3.22K
Twitch-2.89K

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26. "RE: Top 8"
Here are their dialidol scores:

Katee: 0.931
Comfort: 0.264
Courtney: 0.127
Chelsie: 0.078

Will: 0.303
Twitch: 0.292
Josh: 0.245
Mark: 0

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27. "Top 6"
Hey enough busies to finally see some differentiation, but still not a lot.

Dial Idol Score

Girls (Error is +/- about 4)

7.54 Katee
7.23 Courtney
4.57 Chelsie

Guys (Error is +/- about 4)

9.61 Joshua (Ranked 1-2)
7.90 Twitch
5.55 Mark

Busy Percentages

Girls

6.40% Katee
4.63% Courtney
3.99% Chelsie

Guys

9.29% Joshua
7.87% Twitch
6.64% Mark

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28. "Top 4 Rankings"
The margin of error is between 3.5 and 4 for the DialIdol Score

13.10 Josh
10.52 Twitch
4.49 Katee
1.19 Courtney

Busy Percentages

14.96 Joshua
11.46 Twitch
7.27 Katee
1.17 Courtney

Looking at the graphs

East Coast/Central start voting.

Twitch and Josh start off very high, but Josh's busy percentages hold high longer then Twitch.

Courtney and Katee are a lot lower with Katee holding on longer to the busy percentages, but Courtney serging near the end of that voting period when the Mountain Time zone kicks in

West Coast Voting.

Katee pulled the kinds of numbers Josh and Twitch did in the East Coast. Twitch and Josh were lower wtih Josh getting a lot more busies for longer and Courtney hardly got a blip.

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