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"FINAL LIST BB17"
This is the last list of the season. MAJOR PROPS to Michel and Kingfish!!! You guys are the BOMB! Kingfish, the talents of your comical satire makes even a sarcastic basher like me jealous at times. Michel, despite your PhD is Spinology you most likely earned from your Rhodes Scholarship at the Nostradamus School of Prophecy, you’ll always be my main dude on these Boards.

VANESSA – Last week I stated, “Big time HOH win!” This week I can appropriately state “Big time POV win!” Aside from winning competitions she continues to play a masterful CRYING game. It’s beyond hysterical how we see Vanessa gloating in the DR over her “gameplay” only to have Austin, Liz, and/or Steve immediately follow in their DR confessionals reciting play-by-play what Vanessa thinks she’s pulled over on them. LMAO! But all that probably doesn’t matter much when you win competitions and other HGs proceed to provide enough rope to hang themselves and paint bigger targets on their back by their own doing. It would be appropriate for Vanessa to win the three-part final comp so she can ice her own cake this season.

LIZ – Conventional wisdom would dictate Liz is a lock for the Finals. If she wins the final three-part comp she would earn her seat in the F2. If Vanessa wins the final comp, she’ll reward Liz for having a vagina. If Steve wins he’d be a moron for not taking her while at the same time making me eat crow for insisting the ignorant boy is still Vanessa’s puppy dog. But as we all know “convention wisdom” rarely dictates on BB. Either way it was an impressive run for one half of an “obvious pair.”

STEVE – If I were to make a prediction I’d probably say Steve wins the final three-part comp and pulls a Cody from last season who left an extra $450,000K on the table only to be scooped up by Derrick. His only chance to be champion is to take Liz to the Finals, but he may not have that opportunity. My gut tells me win or lose, sadly he goes back home to his mommie and is still eons away from manhood. Although I would not classify him as a “floater,” Vanessa’s Steve was Derrick’s Victoria from last season. Once again, he could take his first step toward manhood by making a correct $500K decision should he earn the power to do so.

PRODUCTION – I should not have spoken so soon last week. Just when I thought the last two shovelfuls were tossed in the manure pile, little did I know one more shovel with Caleb’s name on it was still in the CBS toolshed. My apologies to the folks sick and tired of hearing me say this but, HEY PRODUCTION, YOU FRIGGIN’ SUCK!!!

EVICTED) AUSTIN – One of the more epic evictions we’ve seen on BB. As stated in the prior thread, he was more blindsided by the tie vote than Vanessa casting the deciding vote for eviction. But since Vanessa’s actions aren’t shocking too many in the House I guess that’s not surprising. With the Jury House stockpiled with females he’ll have a near impossible task succeeding as the poison pill. The way he was promoting “Life in Pieces” think he may be plugging for a guest role on the show? I think so.

EVICTED) JOHNNY – Logic, schmogic; deals, schmeals...in the final analysis it came down to the F4 POV. If Jmac wins, it’s his season to lose. Vanessa wins, it’s now clear sailing for her. End of season. I suppose he may be inclined to scream “foul” considering Vanessa would most CERTAINLY know the day she was giving the opportunity of a lifetime at the Ariana Grande’s concert over Johnny remembering a day he was stuck in the House with Austin and Steve. LOL. But it was not a once and out comp, so bottom line—he come up short in a competition that ultimately decided the season.

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 RE: FINAL LIST BB17 kingfish 09-21-15 1
   RE: FINAL LIST BB17 Aruba 09-22-15 6
 The Final 3 michel2 09-21-15 2
   RE: The Final 3 kingfish 09-22-15 3
       RE: The Final 3 Aruba 09-22-15 5
           RE: The Final 3 kingfish 09-23-15 10
       RE: The Final 3 michel2 09-22-15 7
   RE: The Final 3 Aruba 09-22-15 4
       RE: The Final 3 michel2 09-22-15 8
           RE: The Final 3 Aruba 09-22-15 9
               RE: The Final 3 michel2 09-23-15 11
                   RE: The Final 3 Aruba 09-23-15 12
                       RE: The Final 3 michel2 09-23-15 13
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Thanks Aruba.

Since this is the final, and there are only 3 lying scheming crying backstabbing flirting shitballs left, I'm just going to make my predictions and list my preferences.

First Preference: Steve. Of the three, I guess I'd like to see Steve win. He's a bozo loner and has made some really bad moves, and has 1/10 of the gonads most people are born with, but as the hapless underdog and because it would really piss Vanessa off and finally defeat her ultimate game, and would also defeat Liz's goal of booting Sneaky Steve and avenging her sister and Austin, I go with him.

Second Preference: Vanessa. Played a more than admirable strategic game, never let up, had an amazing analytical technique, so, I give second preference to Vanessa. If the idea of defeating her in the final battle (a battle that she has so carefully planned for buttressed by some beautiful bald faced lying) of her war (war is an apt description of her approach, IMO), at the last moment snatching defeat from the very jaws of a certain victory, and defeating the plans she worked so assiduously for wasn't such a pleasurable thought, I might put her at #1. But it is, so I won't.

Third (last) Preference: Liz. Doesn't deserve to win IMO. An immature carbuncle on the ass of society and on the show, which, considering that this is Big Brother, is low praise indeed.

Lower than last Preference: Production. Jesse. Rachel. Caleb. Frankie. Enough said, however, we can take a retching break.

Predictions:

If Vanessa wins final POV, she takes Liz, and wins. A case can be made for Liz actually beating her because she will get Julia and Austin's votes, and she could add enough votes from the Non-Austwin Jury members to pull it off. But My bet is that even though those guys were all felled by her hand directly or indirectly, they will vote for her outstandingly brilliant handling of each situation.

If Liz wins final POV, she takes Vanessa and loses. Her strategy of making it an all girl final vote is representative of the depth of her imbecilic strategic thinking. She is a young person, and hopefully will get smarter as she ages. I hope so, for her sake. If not, the porn industry will probably give her a good career for as long as her looks last. After that she will be in a Mexican sideshow with a donkey.

If Steve wins final POV, he takes Liz and wins. He probably loses Vanessa's jury vote for backstabbing her (pulling a 'Vanessa') as well as Julia and Austin's votes. Shelly? Don't know, but I predict that 4 is the most votes that he loses, and ekes out Liz.

Johnny Mac wins America's Favorite.

This was fun. Now, on to Survivor, and the BTS.

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6. "RE: FINAL LIST BB17"
You are most welcome, Kingfish.

Like your predictions. The only enigma in my mind is if Steve wins the final 3-part comp. Taking Liz would make sense but I’m still guessing he’ll end up taking Vanessa. Why? For the same reason I stated in my reply I posted a few minutes ago…why I’d be able to beat a bunch of first and second-graders in a one-on-one basketball game. LMAO

Liz in the porn industry...BWAHAHAHA!!! Maybe 40 years ago when the porn industry was 8MM loops with no dialogue. (Yeah, I know I’m aging myself.) But in today’s industry they attempt pointless storylines where the porn stars are required to actually speak so that could be trouble for Liz. After further consideration I’m thinking more among the lines of jumping all over a CEO’s W-2 and being the hot executive wife. Yes she’s young and could raise herself from that “immature carbuncle” status, but if she decides to age with Austin, I’m pretty sure there’s a donkey South of the Border with her name on it.

As for Survivor, you’ll have it count me out. I’m taking my normal sabbatical when CBS decides on a season with returnees. I’m sure you and Michel will keep up the good faith on these Boards!

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2. "The Final 3"
It's so nice to read that my opinions are reduced to spin. I guess that's what happens when someone doesn't agree with Aruba.

I'll list the players according to game play leaving all the BS of right and wrong out of a game that, in its very nature, is amoral.

1- Vanessa: I have rarely seen such domination in a game like this, be it Big Brother or Survivor. For her mental game, I have to put her up there with Tina in the Outback, Brian in Thailand, Rob in the Amazon, Cirie in Panama and Micronesia, Earl in Fiji, Todd in China and Kim in One World. We just have to realize that Steve and Liz would not be there if Vanessa didn't want them to be there to realize that she completely made this season.

From the start, she aligned with Austin, Shelli and Clay then realized that it would be good to keep Liz safe to gain TWO loyal votes. Whenever someone posed a threat she quickly dispatched him or her even if she wasn't the HoH at the time. It happened to Audrey, Jeff, Jason, Becky, James and John.

She kept the Autwins long enough to ensure her safety and then dispatched them before they could take complete control the game. Julia's eviction was really textbook: Liz was much more dangerous but her eviction would have caused more problems than it would have solved so Vanessa went along and managed to keep her alliance with Austin and Liz even if she had just reduced their power. Nominating Julia alongside Meg was also a stroke of genius: James and Meg thought they had put her in checkmate when the Asian Hillbilly won Veto. They fully expected to see John go up and get voted out. She was way ahead of everyone in the house (and on this board!)

She could still lose it though if Steve wins F3 HoH or if she doesn't give the jury the answers they want to hear. The job is not done yet, the river card still has to be turned.

2- Liz: It's really hard to separate the other two because neither played a good game. I will give the edge to Liz because I think she would win a head to head confrontation with Steve. Her game wasn't without merit: That dumb twin twist was discovered very early and could have ended her game right there and then. Vanessa and Austin deserve most of the credit for saving her but her social game also played a part. In its infancy, the game is the time when the "Hot Heads" are evicted so Da'Vonne, Jason and Audrey were the main targets but that could have been put aside to get rid of "the twist". After that, she managed to lay low even if being part of two obvious pairs should have made her a target. A lot of the credit for her safety goes to Clelli who made themselves even more obvious and to Vanessa who kept the twins off everyone's radar. In the late game, she accepted Julia and Austin's eviction as game moves which kept her in Vanessa's good graces.

3 - Steve: I see him as a floater. Not the usual, unattached floater because he was close to Vanessa and John throughout the game and was part of the "Scamper Squad", but he was never really allowed in the inner sanctum. Vanessa let him in on her thoughts only to confuse him and make him vote the way she wanted. When he said that his two closest allies (speaking of Vanessa and John) hate each other, he showed us his inadequacy. Steve was in the ideal position to help them come together but he wasn't smart enough to make it happern. It took John's return after his first eviction and Vanessa's determination to finally make the connection. Their alliance defined the end game. Steve just saw it form around him, lucky to be Vanessa's tool. Her F5 HoH opened his eyes however and now he says he wants to vote her out. Unless you choose to ignore what he actually said, he could create a huge surprise at the end.

Production: This show has many more problems than the cameos by people that would be best forgotten. Even Aruba is starting to realize it when he wrote: "I suppose he may be inclined to scream “foul” considering Vanessa would most CERTAINLY know the day she was giving the opportunity of a lifetime at the Ariana Grande’s concert over Johnny remembering a day he was stuck in the House with Austin and Steve ..."

Bravo! At least it's not my spin this time!

Evicted - Austin: HE says he was completely surprised by Vanessa's vote, HE says that he will make her pay for it yet, Aruba insists: "he was more blindsided by the tie vote than Vanessa casting the deciding vote for eviction."

It must be selective hearing!

Austin proved to be an entertaining player, a grand character for sure and not an entirely terrible player. His late alliance with James and Meg showed that he had many resources but he was no match for Vanessa who managed to turn him against those two.

Evicted - John: Another fun character but one that simply didn't have a game. Clay's favorite pawn came to the realization that Vanessa was playing a strong game but instead of going with her he broadcasted it. That cost him a trip outside the house but he was lucky to make it back. This time he chose a wiser approach and jumped on her coat tails but she pulled them out from under him before he could get rid of her. For that and he'll get $25K?? Go Figure. I guess it pays to be the class clown.


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3. "RE: The Final 3"
"In its infancy, the game is the time when the "Hot Heads" are evicted so Da'Vonne, Jason and Audrey were the main targets..."

True. And it's to Vanessa's credit that she wasn't targeted then also. She was in confrontations early on. Not to the degree that Da'Vonne and Audrey were, but Jason didn't out do her in that department.

I count a majority of votes for Vanessa if it's her and Liz at the end. Liz would have Julia and Austin, maybe Shelly, and maybe Steve's vote (the wound will be fresh, so will he forgive her for those final "on her life" lies? Except for that, I think he would otherwise be inclined to vote for her brilliant play), but who else? Clay maybe, if Shelli and Austin work on him. But I'd be inclined to say no there. Liz might win, but it seems pretty iffy to me.

As to the final speeches, Vanessa will not misstep there. If there are any undecided votes at the end and she is in final 2, I don't think there is anyone more capable of swaying them. We will hear the longest, sobbingest, most sincere speech about why she had to do what she did and invoking swears on everyone and everything she holds dear that we have ever heard.

"John - Another fun character but one that simply didn't have a game. Clay's favorite pawn came to the realization that Vanessa was playing a strong game but instead of going with her he broadcasted it. That cost him a trip outside the house but he was lucky to make it back. This time he chose a wiser approach and jumped on her coat tails but she pulled them out from under him before he could get rid of her. For that and he'll get $25K?? Go Figure. I guess it pays to be the class clown.

No Michel, if he wins, it won't have been for that. You're confusing your estimation of his play during the game with audience appeal.

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5. "RE: The Final 3"
Carpenter Kingfish swinging his hammer once again...

Other than one minor miss (Clay in not on the Jury), you NAILED it, my Friend.

Well done!!!

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Another brain fart in a season with so many.


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7. "RE: The Final 3"

>No Michel, if he wins, it
>won't have been for that.
>You're confusing your estimation of
>his play during the game
>with audience appeal.


For the first half of the season, I would have voted for John also but then he showed he wasn't a good player so I wouldn't give him a vote just because he was funny. So I think it's the audience that is confused.

As for Liz, I wrote that she beats Steve but said nothing about her chances against Vanessa. If Vanessa is in the F2, she only loses if she bombs in her answers.


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Our rankings are the same, so we’ve disagreed MUCH more in past seasons.

As for an amoral game I can understand the lying and deception, but it’s the hypocrisy that nauseates me. Criticizing, verbally attacking, and playing a masterful CRYING game toward those who are doing EXCATLY what you are doing. Do as I say but not as I do. THAT’S the very nature that defines what a despicable individual a two-faced person can truly be.

Vanessa and Liz would not be in the end game if the Sixth Sense did not dominate the competitions it did. The twin twist lasted as long as it did because the Sixth Sense dominated comps. The Austwins made the F6 because the Sixth Sense dominated comps.

Yes they hit a three-week drought when they were shut out and two in the alliance (Clay & Shelli) became casualties. But during the other nine weeks the 6th Sense won an ASTONDING fifteen comps!!! Let’s say, for example, John, James, Becky, and Jackie won those 15 comps, Vanessa, Liz, Austin and Julie don’t even get a sniff of the F6.

Steve was not a floater. He is an ignorant, immature, sissy-boy easily taken advantage of. Crediting Vanessa with using someone as hapless as Steve as a tool would be like me bringing a basketball to an elementary schoolyard and after beating every first and second-grader in a one-on-one basketball game declaring myself a lottery pick for the upcoming NBA Draft. *SNORT*

As for Austin...I know what I "heard" (saw) you "say" (wrote.) Something to the effect of ACTIONS speak louder than words. Well Austin's ACTIONS clearly indicated he was more blindside by the tie vote by his body language, demeanor and facial expression even BEFORE Julie told Vanessa to cast the deciding vote. Of course he'll say what he thinks he'll need to say to be the bitter poison pill on the Jury in a futile attempt to swing all the females in the House to go against Vanessa.

What I stated is JOHNNY may be “inclined” to scream foul...not Aruba. Had you not conveniently cut off the end of my statement I said it’s all on Johnny for NOT winning the POV that most likely and ultimately decided this season’s winner. Erroneously insinuating I “realized” anything is very much YOUR spin at its GREATEST (or worst.) Actually my ulterior motive there was to bait you into playing another one of your patented “conspiracy cards.” LOL And rest assure if you disliked Vanessa as much as you dislike Russell Hantz we’d all be getting a generous dose of just that!

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8. "RE: The Final 3"

>As for an amoral game I
>can understand the lying and
>deception, but it’s the hypocrisy
>that nauseates me. Criticizing, verbally
>attacking, and playing a masterful
>CRYING game toward those who
>are doing EXCATLY what you
>are doing. Do as
>I say but not as
>I do. THAT’S the very
>nature that defines what a
>despicable individual a two-faced person

Calling someone a hypocrite is another way of applying YOUR set of morals to the game.

>Vanessa and Liz would not be
>in the end game if
>the Sixth Sense did not
>dominate the competitions it did.


We simply do not know that. Vanessa showed enough adaptability that she could have flipped on the 6th Sense alliance if she needed to. In fact she did when she became part of the "Dark Moon" alliance for a while. It could have worked out for her. It certainly would have been better for Clelli if they had stayed with the bigger alliance.

>The twin twist lasted as
>long as it did because
>the Sixth Sense dominated comps.
>The Austwins made the F6
>because the Sixth Sense dominated
>comps.

But it was Vanessa and Austin's vision of the game that got the twins in the alliance. The other house guests thought the twins were too dangerous. If Vanessa had been as short-sighted as them and Austin a little more loyal to his girlfriend, then the Twins would have needed to win all those competitions on their own, something they certainly didn't do.

>Yes they hit a three-week drought
>when they were shut out
>and two in the alliance
>(Clay & Shelli) became casualties.
>But during the other nine
>weeks the 6th Sense won
>an ASTONDING fifteen comps!!!
>Let’s say, for example, John,
>James, Becky, and Jackie won
>those 15 comps, Vanessa, Liz,
>Austin and Julie don’t even
>get a sniff of the
>F6.

But Vanessa was public enemy number one during the week Shelli went home yet she managed to flip it around and she got the whole house to abandon the HOH. That's quite an accomplishment.

>Steve was not a floater. He
>is an ignorant, immature, sissy-boy
>easily taken advantage of. Crediting
>Vanessa with using someone as
>hapless as Steve as a
>tool would be like me
>bringing a basketball to an
>elementary schoolyard and after beating
>every first and second-grader in
>a one-on-one basketball game declaring
>myself a lottery pick for
>the upcoming NBA Draft. *SNORT*

Your analogy neglects the fact that there were 16 players. No one else managed to use Steve or any of the others half-witted players as well as Vanessa did. Steve had no other allies than Vanessa and John. That wasn't a real alliance soi he floated in the middle, rescued by Vanessa whenever she needed him.


>As for Austin...I know what I
>"heard" (saw) you "say" (wrote.)
>Something to the effect of
>ACTIONS speak louder than words.
>Well Austin's ACTIONS clearly indicated
>he was more blindside by
>the tie vote...

What? You are wrong, mister. When Vanessa said his name, he nearly fell out of his chair and then he TOLD Julie that he was still thinking he was safe.

>What I stated is JOHNNY may
>be “inclined” to scream foul...not
>Aruba.

You wrote that YOU suppose Johnny could cry foul. That supposition showed you had doubts and that is all I was implying.

> Actually my ulterior
>motive there was to bait
>you into playing another one
>of your patented “conspiracy cards.”
>LOL And rest assure if
>you disliked Vanessa as much
>as you dislike Russell Hantz
>we’d all be getting a
>generous dose of just that!


I hate Hantz because he was a pr*ck to everyone on the internet that disagreed with him and because he completely spoiled the Heroes vs Villains boot order. Many people in the Survivor community looked back at his seasons and realized all the help he received from production. Those aren't MY conspiracy theories. If you got around a little more, you'd know.

Like you suppose John should, I do blame production for helping Vanessa. However, the "days" competition is an annual occurance so it's only a question of knowing if they chose to keep it for the most important veto to help her. I do not know if they did. Simple as that.

Even if it was, it isn't as bad as putting idols in plain sight for Hantz to find, telling Parvati that she really needs to align with him, debasing the game by creating Redemption Island just to give him and Rob a chance to come back, etc...


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9. "RE: The Final 3"
Calling Vanessa a hypocrite is calling a spade a spade. So calling Hantz a pr*ck is “another way of applying YOUR set of morals to the game?”

Heck when the Sixth Sense was dominating those comps I predicted it back THEN most from that alliance would advance to the endgame and most likely someone from that alliance would win the game because of their dominance...that was without needing to peek at the Spoilers to be a smarty pants with my assessments.

Vanessa aligned with Austin in week one before anyone was on to the twin twist. And it was more Austin’s libido than his “vision” for including Julia in the alliance.

Vanessa was appropriately perceived as an appetizing meat shield or human lightening rod in the House. Also Shelli was perceived as a bigger threat in the competitions. It’s laughable you spin those facts as a Vanessa “accomplishment.” It’s simply a case of being saved because someone else having a bigger target on themselves.

YOU are wrong. When Julie announced a tie BEFORE Vanessa voted Austin for eviction he was completely beaten and crestfallen. If it was truly Vanessa who blindsided him, his demeanor would have been “ho-hum” upon hearing the tie vote right up to the second he heard Vanessa say his name. Nothing could have been further from the truth. It’s futile to even debate that visual fact.

Oh brother...by now you should know I purposely will throw something in my posts to yank your chain. All I “implied” was tossing “inclinations” of what Johnny “might suppose” your way to bait you. And you bit hard. If you weren’t blowing so much sunshine up Vanessa’s butt, YOU would have said that yourself without me having to put the worm on the hook.

So you hate Russell because he “spoiled” the spoilers?! ROFLMAO!!!
Kinda like a teacher purposing creating a cheatsheet with wrong answers to catch students who may be cheating...and the students hating the teacher for doing that. HMMM, well let me try to solve that dilemma. OK, I got it...AHHH how about not engaging in that nonsense to begin with?

Russell searched harder than anyone else that season. Even during the Reunion Show Finale they showed footage of him searching in many other places and coming up empty.

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11. "RE: The Final 3"
>Calling Vanessa a hypocrite is calling
>a spade a spade. So
>calling Hantz a pr*ck is
>“another way of applying YOUR
>set of morals to the
>game?”


You are either missing something here or you are making another pathetic attempt to yank my chain.

You are calling Vanessa an hypocrite for her actions IN the GAME. I am calling Hantz a pr*ck for his actions IN REAL LIFE! I am clearly not imposing my set of morals to the game!!

The dumbass went on a rampage on every survivor board he could find, insulting and threatening everyone that didn't say he was the best player ever. He was horribly obnoxious. He deserved all the hate he received.


>Heck when the Sixth Sense was
>dominating those comps I predicted
>it back THEN most from
>that alliance would advance to
>the endgame and most likely
>someone from that alliance would
>win the game because of
>their dominance...that was without needing
>to peek at the Spoilers
>to be a smarty pants
>with my assessments.

Like I wrote, Clelli would have been better served to abandon the 6th Sense alliance instead of booting Jason. It may have worked for Vanessa also.

>Vanessa aligned with Austin in week
>one before anyone was on
>to the twin twist. And
>it was more Austin’s libido
>than his “vision” for including
>Julia in the alliance.

No one pushed harder than Vanessa to keep BOTH twins safe until Julia entered the house. It was her plan that the others followed. You seem to forget that Austin considered throwing Julia under the bus to keep Liz safe.

>Vanessa was appropriately perceived as an
>appetizing meat shield or human
>lightening rod in the House.
>Also Shelli was perceived as
>a bigger threat in the
>competitions. It’s laughable you spin
>those facts as a Vanessa
>“accomplishment.” It’s simply a case
>of being saved because someone
>else having a bigger target
>on themselves.

It's clear that you missed all the scrambling that Vanessa did. Becky really wanted to keep Shelli in the house yet Vanessa got everyone to turn on the HOH. Shelli was a pawn all along and even Becky's allies had agreed to it.

>YOU are wrong. When Julie announced
>a tie BEFORE Vanessa voted
>Austin for eviction he was
>completely beaten and crestfallen. If
>it was truly Vanessa who
>blindsided him, his demeanor would
>have been “ho-hum” upon hearing
>the tie vote right up
>to the second he heard
>Vanessa say his name. Nothing
>could have been further from
>the truth. It’s futile to
>even debate that visual fact.

Look here:

That's Austin right after Vanessa said his name. If that isn't utter shock, what is?!! Anyway, I'll take Liz's account much more than your spin. She knows Austin much more than you and she clearly said numerous times that: "Vanessa blindsided both of us." She NEVER mentioned John's vote that created the tie.

>Oh brother...by now you should know
>I purposely will throw something
>in my posts to yank
>your chain. All I “implied”
>was tossing “inclinations” of what
>Johnny “might suppose” your way
>to bait you. And
>you bit hard.

Really? You think I bit hard? In fact, I was giving you a compliment for finally realizing that production isn't on the up and up. If you really want to show your gullibility, I apologize for giving you credit that you didn't deserve. Have some more Kool-Aid.


>If you
>weren’t blowing so much sunshine
>up Vanessa’s butt, YOU would
>have said that yourself without
>me having to put the
>worm on the hook.

I did say it myself: Production kept the most important veto for a competition that they knew Vanessa had studied, one that she would ace. They even asked a question that was much easier for her. Was it always scheduled that way? We simply don't know but it looks very fishy.


>So you hate Russell because he
>“spoiled” the spoilers?! ROFLMAO!!!
>Kinda like a teacher purposing creating
>a cheatsheet with wrong answers
>to catch students who may
>be cheating...and the students hating
>the teacher for doing that.
>HMMM, well let me try
>to solve that dilemma. OK,
>I got it...AHHH how about
>not engaging in that nonsense
>to begin with?

Let me enlighten you about spoilers: There are many kinds

Personally, I really enjoy going over the "Next Time on Survivor" clip and the week end promos to guess what will happen during the next episode. The images can reveal some very interesting clues like which team appears to win immunity. That detective work is fun for me because we never really know if we are right.

The other kind of spoilers are the source spoilers. There's no detective work involved because someone with inside knowledge just spills the beans. I Do Not Engage in That Nonsense

Before HvV, Hantz gave away the boot list to a poster named Misseya who quickly infested all the boards with his information, preventing people like me from really enjoying that season.

>Russell searched harder than anyone else
>that season. Even during the
>Reunion Show Finale they showed
>footage of him searching in
>many other places and coming
>up empty.

So what? If the idols had been hidden underground like they had been in Panama and Cook Islands, no amount of searching would have helped. To find those, you HAD to decipher the clues like Terry and Yul did.

In Samoa, Production knew Hantz would be snooping around because he said so in his pre-game interviews so they decided to put them in places that COULD be found without clues. That was clearly production assistance.

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12. "RE: The Final 3"
Quick (but accurate) replies since this will be my last post on this thread with the season ending tonight.

“IN THE GAME” or “IN REAL LIFE” It really doesn’t matter because...YOU ARE, WHO YOU ARE, WHO YOU ARE Nuff Said!

All your spin over who could have been “better served” would have required Kingfish’s Crystal Ball and your degree from the Nostradamus School of Prophecy.

Austin talking about getting rid of Julia pertained to much later in the game. As a matter of fact he even stated wanting Julia in the Jury House while Austin and Liz would stay in the BB House...PROOF it was way later than Julia entering the House as a separate player.

Becky was the only one who was dead set on booting Vanessa and as HOH she didn’t have a vote. Everyone voting knew what an appetizing meat shield Vanessa was and Shelli a more dangerous competition threat. And the votes reflected those facts WITHOUT your home-cooked scrambling perception.

The pic you posted on Austin shows the finality of his fate. How convenient you don’t show Austin on the nomination block at the precise moment Julie announced the tie. Not surprising mind you for obvious reason...but quite convenient nevertheless.

Because I’m not able to disprove something you have no solid proof of occurring—I drink Kool-Aid. You’re a piece of work, let me tell you. You just keep doing what you do best...I still luv ya, Man! LOL

Please stop it already with this “we never really know if we are right.” I guess I’ll never be able to relate because I enjoy watching episodes WITHOUT any spoils or cheat sheets. It’s even MORE fun and more REWARDING for me to apply my “detective work” to the episodes and when right it’s much more of an accomplishment to know I nailed it without any outside help. You should try it sometime.

Hey, if the other castaways weren’t “snooping around” as feverishly and as proactively as Russell, then shame on them. And more power to the player who was playing harder and searching harder than everyone else. Just like more kudos and props to the player who worked harder, played harder, and searched harder than the other castaways last Survivor season to a well-deserved and most satisfying victory. Of course I’m sure you have a conspiracy card or two up your sleeve as to why/how Mike won last season as well.

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13. "RE: The Final 3"

>“IN THE GAME” or “IN REAL
>LIFE” It really doesn’t
>matter because...YOU ARE, WHO YOU
>ARE, WHO YOU ARE
Nuff
>Said!

We agreed that the game is amoral. Are you saying morals don't matter in real life?

>All your spin over who could
>have been “better served” would
>have required Kingfish’s Crystal Ball
>and your degree from the
>Nostradamus School of Prophecy.

I'm not saying that Clelli should have known that they needed to boot Austin but we KNOW for a fact that they left right after Jason so we KNOW that it couldn't have been worse for them. As for Vanessa, she's been able to manipulate everyone. The members of "Dark Moon" wouldn't have been more difficult than the Austwins.

>Austin talking about getting rid of
>Julia pertained to much later
>in the game. As a
>matter of fact he even
>stated wanting Julia in the
>Jury House
while Austin and
>Liz would stay in the
>BB House...PROOF it was way
>later than Julia entering the
>House as a separate player.


Actually, Austin specifically told Jason that he wanted to make it to the jury house WITH Liz, that he didn't care about the game, only love mattered at that point. He wanted Julia voted out as SOON as she entered the house to save Liz.

>Becky was the only one who
>was dead set on booting
>Vanessa and as HOH she
>didn’t have a vote. Everyone
>voting knew what an appetizing
>meat shield Vanessa was and
>Shelli a more dangerous competition
>threat. And the votes reflected
>those facts WITHOUT your home-cooked
>scrambling perception.


Yet everyone wanted to backdoor Vanessa at first. Did you forget that?

>The pic you posted on Austin
>shows the finality of his
>fate. How convenient you don’t
>show Austin on the nomination
>block at the precise moment
>Julie announced the tie
. Not
>surprising mind you for obvious
>reason...but quite convenient nevertheless.


It wasn't conveneince because the youtube video started when Vanessa stood up. I couldn't find the part where Julie announced the tie vote, probably because it wasn't important!

>Because I’m not able to disprove
>something you have no solid
>proof of occurring—I drink Kool-Aid.
>You’re a piece of work,
>let me tell you. You
>just keep doing what you
>do best...I still luv ya,
>Man! LOL

I an certainly not asking you to prove or disprove anything, just to show some healthy skepticism. Science doesn't exist without skepticism.


>Please stop it already with this
>“we never really know if
>we are right.” I guess
>I’ll never be able to
>relate because I enjoy watching
>episodes WITHOUT any spoils or
>cheat sheets. It’s even MORE
>fun and more REWARDING for
>me to apply my “detective
>work” to the episodes and
>when right it’s much more
>of an accomplishment to know
>I nailed it without any
>outside help. You should try
>it sometime.

I like to watch the episode to see if I guessed right with the clues that are provided. Do you watch the "Next time on Survivor?" segment? Do you watch the commercials during the week? If you do then you are much like me.

>Hey, if the other castaways weren’t
>“snooping around” as feverishly and
>as proactively as Russell, then
>shame on them. And more
>power to the player who
>was playing harder and searching
>harder than everyone else. Just
>like more kudos and props
>to the player who worked
>harder, played harder, and searched
>harder than the other castaways
>last Survivor season to a
>well-deserved and most satisfying victory.
>Of course I’m sure you
>have a conspiracy card or
>two up your sleeve as
>to why/how Mike won last
>season as well.

The other survivors weren't snooping around because in almost every season prior the clues were absolutely necessary. Don't you see the difference between putting the idol on a post under the bridge compared to burying it 5 feet underground ten paces to the left of that bridge? Who would want to waste precious socializing time to look for something that shouldn't be easy to find?

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14. "The even MORE Final list, BB17. The most finalist of all!"
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98 days. And Done. Not the worst season, and, thanks to Vanessa, James, John, Meg, the twins and even Steve, it actually had some good moments. Best for me was the back-dooring of Austin. Classic. Out the door, bagless and barefoot. And when Vanessa got snookered at the end. The main reason I liked this season was that there was that there was so much opportunity to snark. A very snarkable season. Hooray!

And I accurately predicted Vanessa’s and Steve’s F2 scenarios. A first for me. I missed the America’s favorite, but James would have been my second choice.

Not ranked, just listed, as follows:

Liz: . Despite having the deck incredibly stacked in her favor by having a sister on the jury as well as her boyfriend, and a generous display of side boobage (I am a fan of side boobage) she didn’t stand a chance. She might deserve some credit for coming out of the same womb as Julia, and for letting Austin fall for her, but a snail dying of a fatal salt poisoning could have had a better performance in front of the jury. Steve was obviously prepared with his own twisted version of his strategy, but Liz acted like she was surprised that she would even be asked why she deserved to win. The only response that she could come up with, and she used it in all three of her answers, was that it was such a burden to have a twin in the game. Carbuncle.

I would pay un peso to see her donkey act, though.

Vanessa: Despite not winning, she is the best player ever, eventually even topping Derrick in energetic strategery, IMO. She didn’t win, and even after she lost she was still fighting to have her way by voting for Liz. She just has those involuntary competitive reflexes. If After Dark rumors are true, she even offered to split her winnings with other houseguests, more than once. A major no no for the show and network, but, after the dust settles, whatcha gonna do? Take back money that’s not there anymore? The lawyers would get rich.

Anyway, very surprising to me was that in the third stage of the final HoH Vanessa missed so many questions. With her memory for detail, I would have thought that she would not miss that many. Also surprising to me was her final confession of being a top poker player. I thought I had heard some allusions (by the twins, I think) to that during the game, so I thought that she had let the house in on that. I found myself hoping that Julie would confront DaVonne on missing that as well as her accusations of John as not being a dentist.

I was both hoping for and dreading Vanessa's responses to the jury questions. Much happier that she was the last boot, however.

In the end, she actually conned herself into thinking that Steve would take her to F2. So, one might say she achieved a clean sweep, she conned every single one of the houseguests, including herself).


Steve:I don’t think Steve played a very impressive game, he got lucky at the end and missed fewer final HoH competition questions (that's what you would call a back handed compliment) than Vanessa, and made a very smart but so obvious decision to take the cow to the F2 (she is a pretty cow - and I didn't catch him checking out the side boobage once), and that won it for him. He finally began making smart choices. And showed some surprising backbone in doing so. So hats off to the winner, to his credit, he beat a superior player.

The Botox Doc was on hand again. Just how does he achieve that youthful, smooth complexion?




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