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flower2 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-16-05, 11:14 PM (EST) "Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I was pleasantly surprised to see Jim support Marcela with a pep talk before she went into the conference room. Her teammates planned to railroad her after they sabatoged the task and Jim prepared her to go in and fight for herself. Who would have thought he could be so caring? Hopefully, he was sincere and this wasn't just a back handed attempt to get a stronger player fired so he could overthrow Marcela later. Even at the beginning of the task, he got cocky regarding beating Marcela in the past. To have her stay now, would give him the upper hand with her later, especially since she would feel loyal to him for the support he gave her tonight.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Stormy Sky 11-16-05 1    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Reality432423 11-17-05 2        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... freakusmaximus 11-17-05 3            RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... volsfan 11-17-05 5        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... zipperhead 11-17-05 4            RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... volsfan 11-17-05 6                RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... shayshay1 11-17-05 7                    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... volsfan 11-17-05 8                        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... ginger 11-17-05 10                            RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... volsfan 11-17-05 11                                RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... ginger 11-17-05 12                            RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Elaine0 11-17-05 14                            RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Loree 11-17-05 15                        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... prosecutor 11-17-05 18  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Reeflex7 11-17-05 9  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... EnfanTerrible 11-17-05 13    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Sooze 11-17-05 16        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Reality432423 11-17-05 17        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... prosecutor 11-17-05 19  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... DrKegel 11-18-05 20    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... JoshInSGV 11-18-05 21  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... 90210grrrl 11-18-05 22    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... EnfanTerrible 11-18-05 23  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... DrKegel 11-18-05 24    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... EnfanTerrible 11-18-05 25        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Reality432423 11-19-05 26  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... flower2 11-30-05 27    RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... Reality432423 12-02-05 28        RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... realtyamazed 12-02-05 29  RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a hea... DrKegel 12-04-05 30

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Stormy Sky 129 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-16-05, 11:25 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I know, really it was totally out of character for Jim to be "compassionate" to another player. Can't believe he actually cared about enough about Marcella to give her a pep talk & good advice. But, who knows, maybe a heart does beat inside his conniving body! P.S. I didn't see the last 5 minutes, who got fired? Hope it wasn't Marcella, she really tried on this task.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Reality432423 153 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-17-05, 00:35 AM (EST) 2. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." LAST EDITED ON 11-17-05 AT 01:30 AM (EST) Marcella didn't get fired. It was Amanda who got fired. Jim is very strange, half the time he's a good player and half the time he's impossible. Half the time I like him, Half the time I hate him. The preview doesn't really favor Jim. He is like fire, you can't control him. The guy is Interesting.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

freakusmaximus 310 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Cooking Show Host" 11-17-05, 09:01 AM (EST) 3. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." come on guys, havent you figured out Jim's strategy yet? he wants marcella to stay b.c he thinks she is weak (which I dont necessarily agree with but he perceives her as weak) so therefor of course he is going to try to help her stay and get the other players who he thinks are more competition for him fired   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 09:47 AM (EST) 5. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." he wants marcella to stay b.c he thinks she is weak (which I dont necessarily agree with but he perceives her as weak) After seeing how she handled her team BOTH times she was PM and you don't "perceive" her to be weak? How else can you describe her?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

zipperhead 3442 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Car Show Celebrity" 11-17-05, 09:46 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I'm in the camp that says that Jim is just propping Marcella up so that he has weaker competition later. Concerning the previews - I just think that the producers are desperately trying to hold on to their audience by ratcheting up the angle on Jim and his odd-ish behavior. He has been remarkably composed the last few weeks and I would be quite surprised to see him have the kind of confrontation with Martha that the promos seem to suggest. A Cyggie siggie!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 09:49 AM (EST) 6. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Too funny zipperhead because after seeing the previews I was wondering who was going to confront Martha because I didn't think it was Jim. I agree with you that Jim has been very subdued and he knew exactly what he was doing by talking to Marcella. Jim thinks Marcella is the weakest link on the other team and I don't think he is too far off!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

shayshay1 409 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 11-17-05, 10:17 AM (EST) 7. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." What was up with Jim being nice ,sounds like to me he took his much needed meds last night. hes the guy you love to hate, but hell hes still there.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 10:38 AM (EST) 8. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." He wasn't being nice...he was playing the game. He knew if he could make Marsella actually stand up for herself and stay in the game he had a weak oppenent...after all he has beaten her twice now as PM. I finally blogged   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 11:55 AM (EST) 10. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I saw it as a little of both. I did, honestly, think he liked taking her under his wing and helping her because he related to the you're-the-team-goat position she'd been put in. And I think he relished the opportunity to mess with the nasty blonde who ultimately got canned (appropriate, I thought). Notice how we're down to six and I still can't remember people's names, except for Jim. When Jim is NOT in manic phase (honestly, I think a few well-chosen meds could make a big difference in the Jim picture) he is the smartest one there. He sizes up the crux of each task and why the team is, or is not, achieving its goals way ahead of the others. I still think it would be a hoot if he won. Of course, I remain a big Richard Hatch fan, too.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

volsfan 19846 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 01:27 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." You may be right Ginger. I just see Jim like you explain in the last paragraph and I didn't want to give him credit for having a softer side! I know Jim, Howie and Ryan...can you guess why I know Howie and Ryan by name? I finally blogged   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

ginger 22511 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 01:35 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." You were impressed by Howie's mastery of the production board last week? Ryan's unique passive-aggressive corporate stylings?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Elaine0 1507 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Peanut Festival Grand Marshall" 11-17-05, 02:55 PM (EST) 14. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." The Jim we saw at the beginning would have given Marcela the pep talk because he wanted to keep a weaker player. He would have done it and then bagged about it to the camera. Now, I'm not convinced that Jim grew a heart or was replaced with his identical, but good, twin brother, but I am concerned about why he didn't brag about it this time. Either he honestly felt for Marcela and wanted to help her out or he bragged and they are keeping that from us. Either way, they are making him look good to the viewers. That's not something I want to happen.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Loree 8616 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 11-17-05, 03:15 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I am agreeing with everything you say Ginger. I think Jim has his angles. But I also think he related to Marcela being the scapegoat. And I would like to see Jim win. He is the most enjoyable part of the show for me.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

prosecutor 449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 11-17-05, 10:44 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." >He wasn't being nice...he was playing >the game. He knew if >he could make Marsella actually >stand up for herself and >stay in the game he >had a weak oppenent...after all >he has beaten her twice >now as PM. > > Volsfan I don't agree. I really thought he cared. He said to Ryan. You are all going to slaughter her in there aren't you? And I think he truly felt sorry for her. Now I see why he has a wife and kids, he has a heart. heeeheee   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Reeflex7 187 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-17-05, 10:41 AM (EST) 9. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." "Hopefully, he was sincere and this wasn't just a back handed attempt to get a stronger player fired so he could overthrow Marcela later." That was his strategy in week one when it came down to either Jeff (I think his name was) or Dawn, and he decided that he may not get another chance to bring down Jeff who was a much stronger player. I don't think anything's changed now. He clearly doesn't think much of Marcella given his comments about how he always beats her in challenges. Once a snake, always a snake. I was more impressed with his reaction about the reward and how much it meant to him, I thought that was a much more sincere and heartfelt reaction. Somewhere down in there is a good heart. He just negates it by acting like such a pompous a$$.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

EnfanTerrible 1239 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 11-17-05, 01:54 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." LAST EDITED ON 11-18-05 AT 04:37 PM (EST) I do have a new opinion of Jim after that. According to his stated plan he wouldn't have advised her if he considered her a serious threat (he should) but still, he didn't have to do that, and it was good advice. She could have blown it though, because she seemed to hold back, unless there's more editing.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Sooze 5 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "American Cancer Society Spokesperson" 11-17-05, 04:55 PM (EST) 16. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Since this is "supposedly" an ongoing job interview, I'm hoping that Martha makes her choice based on not only what we get to see on the show. I was very pleased to see that Marcela was open and honest about why she wanted to work for Martha. Jim has been nothing but a loud mouth with an attitude. If you watched carefully last night Dawna was making the decisions and also took action immediately. And all Jim has to say was "let her handle it, it will be on her head if we lose." Not only is that NOT teamwork but I didn't hear any great ideas come out of Jim's mouth the whole time. Amanda is thankfully gone since all she did was bring a negative vibe to her team!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Reality432423 153 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-17-05, 10:05 PM (EST) 17. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Actually Martha's choices on who to fire, they are too good. I think she must have seen footages of all the tasks. It seems like she knows exactly what's going on. As for Jim, I don't like him either, but he's interesting. You need a variety of people to make it interesting. I think shows like Rebel Billionaire and Big Brother 6 didn't work, because the contestants were quite similar. Jim brings flare, and I love Marcela I think she very honest and pure. Amanda had a degree in Public Relations, yet she didn't give good idea's. Amanda and Brian were defeated even before the task began. I think Jim is genuine at that moment. I don't really consider Marcela weak (Maybe Jim does). I can't tell. At least I'm interested, that's good.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

prosecutor 449 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 11-17-05, 10:49 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." . >And all Jim has to >say was "let her handle >it, it will be on >her head if we lose." >Not only is that NOT >teamwork but I didn't hear >any great ideas come out >of Jim's mouth the whole >time. Sooze, actually Betthany said it will be on Dawna if they lost the task not Jim.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DrKegel 430 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 11-18-05, 11:02 AM (EST) 20. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." >I was pleasantly surprised to see Jim support Marcela with a pep talk before she went into the conference room. Her teammates planned to railroad her after they sabatoged the task and Jim prepared her to go in and fight for herself. Who would have thought he could be so caring? Hopefully, he was sincere and this wasn't just a back handed attempt to get a stronger player fired so he could overthrow Marcela later. Even at the beginning of the task, he got cocky regarding beating Marcela in the past. To have her stay now, would give him the upper hand with her later, especially since she would feel loyal to him for the support he gave her tonight. Railroad Marcela? She was dreadful! She should have been fired! The fault was totally on her for the abyssmal job they did! Amanda worked her a@@ off fixing up the place while Marcela putzed around biting her nails and working on the computer! Jim was just keeping around a weak player. Him giving that little speech on being scapegoated and knowing how it feels was just ridiculous. That wasn't the situation Marcela was in. She made a mess of the project. She just sat there looking dazed and asking Leslie what she was supposed to do. That is not a leader.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

JoshInSGV 737 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Reality Show Commentator" 11-18-05, 02:20 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I really hope that Marcela gets fired soon. Not because I dislike her, quite the opposite. I think she's a very classy lady and she seems like a decent person. She's out of her element with all those sharks. I think she's a talented individual who will land on her feet after this is all over.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

90210grrrl 26 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Beauty Pageant Celebrity Judge" 11-18-05, 03:31 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I think Jim was being completely sincere when he reached out to Marcela, he said he knew what it was like to be ganged up on and scapegoated and didnt like watching it happen to Marcela, I didnt like what I saw happening to Marcela either, I was disgusted with Amanda and her huge forehead, and that other guy too (i forgot his name), they really showed their true colors!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

EnfanTerrible 1239 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 11-18-05, 04:38 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Hey, she brought them the customers. All they had to do was sell.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DrKegel 430 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 11-18-05, 06:45 PM (EST) 24. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Don't think Amanda should have been fired. And actually Alexis got it wrong by misquoting Amanda. Alexis brought up the fact that Amanda said she "couldn't back Marcela." Martha chimed in with, "Well, you did say that." Then Amanda got on the defensive and tried to back pedal from that remark, but she never said that. What she said was she couldn't back ALL of Marcela's decisions. That's very different than what Alexis said she said. Also Marcela being a nice person is different than being a leader. If the board room decisions are supposed to be based on who how well people work on the assigned task, then Amanda should have not been the one to leave. Also Jim's strategy wasn't all that brilliant. He was just repeating what had been said to him by Martha in previous board meetings - he ones that involved the hot pink, slanting, off-kilter, Tower of Pisa wedding cake and the salad dressing. But in those two cases the losses could have been blamed on the sales team. This week it couldn't since the people being brought in were only interested in eating free food.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

EnfanTerrible 1239 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Politically Incorrect Guest" 11-18-05, 09:13 PM (EST) 25. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I've worked with salespeople who would cream their jeans over that kind of crowd coming in to eat free food. The trouble is, the Martha wannabees are not salesmen, they are creatives - and that's as it should be. Marcella delivered up that bunch of people to be sold, but there were no sales sharks to take the bait.salesmen might win these tasks, but only because the producers have lost sight of what Martha wants in an employee. The clown has spoken.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Reality432423 153 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-19-05, 03:44 AM (EST) 26. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." I think Martha made the right decision. This was a bad sales job. Marcella brough lots of people in the shop, and she was able to put together a good idea. She can't help it, if Amanda and Brian (or whatever his name is) can sell crap. I kinda wish they gave a run-down on who sold the most and least. From what I saw Brian and Amanda was raising the white flag once Marcella was PM. That's just wrong. Brian should have been fired also. As for Jim who cares what his motive was. He gave a great speech though. I beleive he was genuine. The guy is a jerk, but even jerks can be nice once in a while. Brian and Amanda completly tried to go around her decisions. They didn't listen to her at all. They were extremly Narrow-minded. It was clear Martha made the best decision.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

flower2 171 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 11-30-05, 09:57 PM (EST) 27. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Jim does have a heart---totally made of stone. He displayed his true colors tonight when speaking first in private about his "strategy" to weed out all of the strong players to leave the weak ones for him to beat, then secondly in public with Martha's top executive and bragging about the strategy and his purely evil side. The man is suicidal when it comes to this "game." Obviously he forgot that the game was also a job interview. I don't think he'll last much longer now.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Reality432423 153 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 12-02-05, 01:49 AM (EST) 28. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Yea I take it back. I thought he was genuine. He pretty much showed his intentions. He does do well on the tasks, but his strong bizzare personality will be his defeat.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

realtyamazed 189 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson" 12-02-05, 04:22 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Jim is very insecure...and I like him, but his insecurity causes him to say and act studid. I don't think he will win either.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

DrKegel 430 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Daytime Soap Guest Star" 12-04-05, 04:24 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Big bag Jim, actually has a heart, I think." Re Amanda's chance to speak and saying the wrong thing. Was thinking about it and it suddenly occurred to me that the time I really liked and empathized with Amanda was when she was talking with Fran Drescher about her bout with cancer. Fran Drescher also seemed very interested about what she had to say about winning this battle and keeping her eye. Maybe this is what she meant about "perfect people," but just screwed things up. She should have brought this up and said she's a fighter - no matter what the challenge (and what she went through is a HUGE challenge and to be respected). She should have said she approaches life and problems with this type of tenacity and would therefore be a most valuable asset. She could also say that alot of people would be able to identify her victory and she could help them make their lives that much better by being in Martha's company. It was really the salient point about Amanda - this fighting spirit. Martha would have been able to identify it and strategically it would have put her in a very awkward position of having to get rid of someone that just spoke in this honest, forthright way. It would have made Marcela look whiney and very incompetent in that Amanda fought and won her battle and Marcela was crying about not even being able to handle a simple task of selling coffee. I realize that when you're sitting in the boardroom you're not given time to think, but I think Amanda was a very strong candidate. Remember how she got that team of hers that was working against her to work with her instead? She didn't whine and complain, she just took effective action to change the situation around. Contrast that with Marcela who shakes, bites her nails and whines and cries about her not being able to handle this alone. And when she loses the task she complains to "mommy" Martha who tells her to sit up straight and has to intercede and correct Marcela's mess. Sorry, Martha. You're not perfect and you made a huge mistake.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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