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"M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?"
photokitty 298 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-23-05, 02:25 PM (EST)
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"M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
I'm going here because in all the articles surrounding the show, most of the press says Michael "hanged himself" or "took his own life" or "suicide." I sort of winced every time I read that. Only a small number of articles have left it alone by just saying "the death of." It happened in late 1997, so my memory is foggy, but I don't recall reading anything to specifically say that it was definitely suicide. Perhaps the press just found it easier to say that. Yet, given the press's penchant for things sensational and exploitative, why wouldn't they emphasize the accidental death during auto-eroticism angle? I know it was mentioned, a little. Perhaps editors nationwide said, "No way are you talking about that!" Are we, as a society, so prudish to PREFER that it was a suicide?
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LaLaLisa 296 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-23-05, 02:44 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
LAST EDITED ON 09-23-05 AT 02:53 PM (EST)I think there are still a lot of people that don't know what it is. PSA - If you are reading this and are one of the ones who don't know, auto-erotic aphysixiation is a way to make an orgasm more intense by cutting off your oxygen flow (usually by near strangling yourself) making you lightheaded. The idea is cut off enough air to make you lightheaded, but remain conscious - so you can undo it. If you misjudge, you pass out and then die. I think it's mostly guys that do it while jacking-off (the auto-erotic part) which is what makes it dangerous - no partner to help out if you pass out. Back to why it is or isn't mentioned: I think back in 1997 it still wasn't talked about - I mean, violence, yes, sex, yes but masturbation? No one ever talks about that. Even though I swear I saw it Oprah in high school. I'd like to think it isn't so much as a conscious decision to call it suicide when they know it wasn't, but technically he did strangle himself and they stop there, don't bother with the full story. It does do a huge disservice to Michael, though. It was accidental death, not suicide. More PSA - a good references on the topic: http://www.silentvictims.org/ Started by someone who lost his brother to it. It talks about the embarrassment that families feel and other complicated things. Some people are more embarassed by sex than suicide. So even if MH's family members weren't, there are probably plenty in the press who are.
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Moother 132 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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09-23-05, 03:11 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
In a way it really was suicide because doing something that extreme is kind of like playing Russian Roulette. Your taking a chance with your life. Some times you win and sometimes you don't but at his age I would think he knew the chance of death existed and he still made the choice.
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LaLaLisa 296 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-23-05, 03:22 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
Yes, he made the choice to risk, but there is a HUGE difference between RISKING your life and TAKING your life. Are soldiers suicidal? Firefighters? Yes, there is a HUGE difference between risking your life for an ideal, versus risking it for pleasure or thrill, but who one would argue that soldiers, et. al., are suicidal. As the brother who runs the website wrote:
"We thought that is was easier to tell people that Bob committed suicide. That was because it was easier for others to understand. Think about it. We soon came to the conclusion that suicide made it easier for others to understand, however, it was not fair to Bob, nor was it fair to our family. He did not wish to die. He loved life and lived it fully. Ultimately, we placed Bob and family in front of other people's "comforts of understanding". The way it should be. Those that wanted to know, close family and select friends, we told them what happened. We tried to explain AeA as best we could. Most often, it was not important if they understood, only that they knew the truth. In the long run, our family decisions were the best."http://www.silentvictims.org/FAQ's.htm
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geg6 14941 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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09-23-05, 03:30 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
Absolutely right, Lisa.I scuba dive. It's very risky. Does that make me suicidal? I don't think so. I drive well over the speed limit, sometimes when I've had a beer or two. Does that make me suicidal? I smoke. Does that make me suicidal? There are those who have sex with strangers without a condom. That doesn't mean they are suicidal. Taking risks does not equal suicide. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/40afe15a32d41daa.gif) I'm such a slut for the blues.
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Moother 132 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Blistex Spokesperson"
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09-23-05, 03:40 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
I agree but many times when people do risky things we say that's just suicide! That's my point. It's a risk you take. Soldiers generally go where they are ordered to go and therefore much of the choice is removed from them. In his case I would imagine it isn't mentioned the sexual aspect because it was a bit embarrassing for the band. Maybe they ALL do/did it but they don't want to talk about it. I know I wouldn't want to admit I did it, anymore than I would want to admit I was a hooker to send my kids to college. (by the way, I really wasn't)
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photokitty 298 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Network TV Show Guest Star"
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09-23-05, 10:41 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
Thanks LaLa, that's what I wanted to know.
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09-23-05, 04:09 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: M.H.: Suicide Or Accident?" |
All very good articles posted on this thread. I also cannot rememeber the particulars of how I heard of the accidental nature of the death due to auto-eroticism back then. I was very naive & sheltered back then & knew nothing about various fetishes people have and I was shocked & grossed out at that time. After living the last 8 years in the big city & meeting people of all walks of life & different lifestyles, my eyes are opened to many different things people are into & preferences they may have. The biggest thing I have learned is not to judge people on what they do. It is sad how hard it must be for families to deal with the aftermath of something like this, but I would think stating it was an "accidental hanging" is much better than suicide. Actually, usually when I hear anything about Michael Hutchence's death it is stated as accidental. Just like any other young person whose life is cut short by an accident, suicide, murder or illness, it is just a sad shame. May Michael rest in peace. ![](http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/User_files/430db32407e12571.gif)
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10-22-05, 02:20 PM (EST)
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16. "Bono's comment" |
http://contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mn...gic%20hutchenceRocker BONO still regrets not supporting troubled INXS star MICHAEL HUTCHENCE in his final days - because he thinks he might have been able to save the Australian icon. The U2 star was close friends with Hutchence, but fears he let his pal down because he didn't act on his wife ALI HEWSON's concerns that Hutchence was on the edge. He reveals, "I felt I had let Michael down because I was lost in my own busy-ness and hadn't called as much as I would have liked. "In fact, Ali had spent some time with him and she'd said he looked a bit shaky to her. "I just wished I'd been around a bit more. He would confide in me and I in him. We were really good friends." 21/10/2005 02:59
Also U2 has been performing the song "Stuck in the Moment" which is about Michael. At a recent concert before he sang the song Bono made a comment about RockStar:INXS. Bono said he didn't know what he personally thought about INXS doing the show to find a new lead singer. Then he kind of laughed and said he wondered what Michael would think about it. Then Bono said that Michael probably would have been okay with it and liked the idea.
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