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"Bristol Bashing Thread"
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11-15-10, 06:59 PM (EST)
 
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"Bristol Bashing Thread" |
Sorry, I just can not contain myself anymore. There is no where to acceptably bash anyone on this show, so I might as well just post it right up front. This program is DANCING WITH THE STARS, so how is Bristol a STAR? Because she's Sarah Palin's daughter? Because she had a child out of wed-lock and now she has a platform? Give me a BREAK. I'm more of a star than she is and you don't see me being asked to do this show and make thousands of dollars. Furthermore, she is a horrible dancer. If she doesn't get the boot this week than I may have to refuse to watch this show in the future. She is much less of a dancer than the other three couples. I am really disappointed in the producers of this show for bringing politics into a dance program. It's not supposed to be a popularity contest, it's a DANCE contest. Give me a break. Maybe I'll try Skating with the Stars, at least everyone of them is a semi-celebrity... Dare I even begin to presume that she has a chance of winning this show....? ARGHHHH!
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11-15-10, 07:12 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
She conceivably has a chance to win this, especially if the judges refuse to give her the scores that she deserve... which is more like 4s, 5s, and 6s than 8s...
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11-16-10, 09:38 AM (EST)
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11. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
At least Marie had her own fans voting her to the final. Bristol has her mother's fans voting and alot of them are not even watching the show. They are just following orders to vote for the Palin.
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11-15-10, 10:49 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
Seriously, Bristol has indeed shown improvement, don't get me wrong. But, clearly, she is not at the level of the other three. Kyle, Jennifer, and Brandy all deserve to be there next week. They have got to cut Bristol LOOSE! Jennifer was indeed close to perfection tonight. Brandy and Max are definitely in the mix, and Kyle danced his buns off tonight. I don't care what the scores are, Bristol is just not at that level....I will be sorely disappointed if she gets through. Let's make this about DANCING, please!
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11-16-10, 05:21 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-16-10 AT 05:35 AM (EST)Actually, I don't really know who those people are because I stopped watching the show when they had Tom Delay on. I had the same objection to him: politicians don't belong on the show. But I do know that those people were not on the show because of what their mother did, nor were they there to further a political career. Reality stars may not have done much to merit being celebrities, but they are still famous for their own actions, which were within the realm of entertainment. I have no love for Sarah Palin and that is no secret, but her daughter has absolutely no business being on this show. ETA: 1. Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about the merits of the people you name and I see it as a separate issue. Most of the people on DWTS I have never heard of. 2. I would hope anyone could see the difference between politicians and entertainers, whether they should be called stars or whatever. It is quite clear to me. 
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11-16-10, 02:57 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I can't get myself worked up over Bristol. First, except for sports stars, I would argue that none of the people who have ever been on this show are "stars" -- they are "moderately famous" people with the occasional stars past their prime thrown in (George Hamilton comes to mind). I've always thought it should be named "Dancing With People You Maybe Heard Of" 
Second, there have been plenty of so-so dancers who made it to the finals -- Marie Osmond (3rd place); Jerry Rice (2nd place) and Donny Osmond (1st place!!!). I will not be upset (or surprised) if it happens again.
Third, I watch the show to see how the contestants progress and to see the pros dancing, so I've never been very invested in which so-called "star" wins.
Fourth, I'm kind of feeling a backlash against the Bristol backlash. I don't like her mother's politics at all but some of the things being said about Bristol are downright mean (not on this board, btw -- but on some other boards the attacks are very personal & cruel & I really don't think she deserves them). It really is just a tacky, fun dancing show after all.
All that said, I'm voting for Kyle -- he is adorable, wasn't a ringer (I'm looking at you, Jennifer), consistently improves week to week and isn't acting like he is curing cancer by being on this show (I'm looking at you, Brandy). He embodies what I find enjoyable about the show. I won't like it if Bristol knocks him out, but I'll still watch.
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11-16-10, 07:24 PM (EST)
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16. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
Kiki, once again, I'm with you! Kyle is adorable and isn't a ringer. I never vote for DWTS but I actually voted for him last night because I'm worried that he or Brandy will be the ones to go. Keeping my fingers crossed!!
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11-16-10, 01:35 PM (EST)
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13. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I don't mind Bristol personally, but she does not deserve to go to the finals. Last night I actually voted, for the first time in years (though I am a faithful viewer). I cast all my votes for Kyle, as I think he is the most likely to go home if Bristol stays.
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11-16-10, 05:49 PM (EST)
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15. "Not a "star"...no talent." |
How can anyone dance such passionate dances with entirely no expression??? I've seen real stars loaded up with Botox who are more expressive than this girl. Heck, she makes Kate Gosselin look vivacious.
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11-16-10, 07:30 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Not a "star"...no talent." |
Apparently Jimmy Kimmel said the show should be renamed 'with the' because what Bristol is doing is not dancing and she is definitely not a star.
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11-17-10, 07:36 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I could be wrong, but I think the way the scoring is set up, the judges scores can be enough to prevent a contestant from winning. I believe if they score someone (Bristol) in 3rd place consistently, she will be able to possibly finish 2nd, but will not win.
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11-17-10, 11:25 AM (EST)
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25. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
But that would require the judges actually scoring Bristol fairly. They haven't done it yet. Why would they start next week? And Tom said that Brandy and Bristol were not necessarily the bottom 2. My guess was that Bristol was not in the bottom 2 at all. She could very well have had the most votes. If she is scored close enough to the others next week she could win it all. That look on Derek's face was realization hitting him that him and Jennifer are no longer a lock for the Mirror Ball.
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11-17-10, 01:53 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I think the judges have ranked Bristol near or at the bottom of the "leader board" (even though the actual scores were too high). If I recall correctly the way they combine the scores (at least for the finale) is rather than the actual numbers (such as 29 out of 30) the contestants get 3 points for a #1 finish, 2 points for #2, 1 point for #3. Same for the audience vote. That way if Bristol is ranked #3 by the judges and #1 by the audience, she would get 4 points. Other contestants would get 3, 4 or 5 points. (#2 and #2 gives 4 points; #1 and #2 gives 5 points, #2 and #3 gives 3 points.) Either both of the other 2 contestants get 4, or else one gets 3 and the other gets 5. If there is a tie (such as everyone with 4 points), if I'm not mistaken, the judges vote is the trump card.Now I might be "misremembering" this from a past season, but that is what I think.
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11-17-10, 05:35 PM (EST)
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32. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I think it was that way in the beginning (waiting for Snidget with a link), but they changed it so it would be more weighted. If the judges really wanted to get rid of someone, they could give him/her a very low score and that would be harder to overcome than if the contestant was in last place, but only 1 point behind the next celeb.
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11-18-10, 04:43 AM (EST)
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36. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
That's how it was back in the old stone age. But there were some controversies on the first few seasons, so they changed to how they do it now, which is to add each couple's percentage of the total judges' points for that week to their percentage of the total viewer votes for that week to get their total score. That means that if the voters are casting huge numbers of votes for the worst couple, the judges might have to give that couple 2's or 3's to keep them from an undeserved win, and you can only do that in the early weeks because it's too obvious what you're doing if you do that in the final when nobody still there is that bad. And even in the early seasons the couples' placements in viewer votes were the tiebreaker, so it was even harder for the judges to get rid of a bad couple then.
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11-18-10, 08:18 AM (EST)
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37. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
LAST EDITED ON 11-18-10 AT 08:25 AM (EST)Did someone say link? link I think they realized with Master P that the voters could overwhelm the system too easily, with the percentage of judges votes vs percentage of voters it is actually easier to get someone out if they don't want them around any more. ETA: I said this on the ECST but I'll risk repeating myself. I think we will see a Marie Osmond situation. Popular contestant who isn't quite up to the level of the others rides the bottom of the leader board so as the average score goes up their score goes up and it adds to the "you are improving sooooo much" story line they love on this show. Then the finale comes and suddenly they get much lower scores (more in line with what people said they should be getting all along) at the finale creating a percentage difference that will keep their fans from overwhelming any "must not let them win" backlash that usually shows up for the finale. Hard to imagine any of Brandy's (or several other dancers) fans switching over to Bristol since she is going to get the blame for a lot of people leaving the show.
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11-18-10, 10:51 AM (EST)
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38. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
Sounds right to me. The producers want the Palin fans watching, and keeping Bristol on the show accomplishes that, but they most likely don't want Bristol to win because of its VFTW associations.
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11-18-10, 09:44 PM (EST)
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42. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
I dont know if they'll necessarily score her way worse suddenly, though I imagine her freestyle probably wont be very good. Either way though, I dont think she has the supporters to beat Jennifer or Kyle. Just because she's had enough to stay in against the others doesnt mean her fan base is bigger than either of those. I think a lot of people are overreacting to her support of staying over the ones that have gone. Noone has left that I thought had a particularly large fanbase, so I havent really been surprised by any eliminations this season.
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11-17-10, 09:15 AM (EST)
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24. "RE: Bristol Bashing Thread" |
But to be fair, that's more sentence structure than most people use on Facebook. Let's hear it for the Alaskan education system! 
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11-17-10, 12:22 PM (EST)
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26. "Bristol Palin, brought to you by..." |
The same folks who gave you 8 years of George Dubya Bush. Really, is it any surprise?
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11-17-10, 00:15 AM (EST)
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21. "As Sweetie says......" |
Bristol Palin: The perfect blend of her mother's intelligence and her father's star power.
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11-17-10, 03:22 PM (EST)
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30. "RE: Slight overreaction." |
That's about 20 miles from my house...we love to harbor the crazies, what can I say!?
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11-18-10, 05:41 PM (EST)
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40. "RE: Slight overreaction." |
698,473Population of Alaska I don't feel the intense dislike of the girl that many do. I don't care for her mother; she comes across to me as a DAW.
So many people were down on Bristol before the comp even started. Made me want to hope she would be able to dance. And she has done much better than many of the contestants we've seen before - even if she's not as good as Brandy. 1. It's still a popularity contest. 2. Putting "stars" with experience against "stars" who have no experience will never make a fair contest. 3. From the beginning there have been people I have never heard of; people I would never have considered a "star". So I got past that part many seasons ago.
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11-18-10, 09:35 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Slight overreaction." |
Palin doesn't have many friends in Alaska these days. Her 'strongly disapprove' is 55% or so and has been for quite a while. Her pet tea party candidate in the last election was soundly rejected with only about 30% of the vote. She might not carry the state if she ran for president. Alaska would choose Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, or Mitt Romney over her in a GOP primary for 2012, according to a recent series of Public Policy Polling surveys. http://www.onenewspage.com/news/Front+Page/20101117/17060178/Poll-Palin-Would-Come-in-4th-in-Alaska.htm Palin's supporters are 1. not Alaskan and 2. fanatical. I think it is a very small group of crazed people voting many times each and putting all their votes on her daughter.
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11-20-10, 03:45 AM (EST)
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48. "RE: Slight overreaction." |
Jbug, I don't know where you'd get the idea that any large number of Alaskans would want to vote for Bristol just because she's from Alaska. Other than a few loyal old friends and die hard political supporters, the family is despised in the state. Alaskans were deeply embarrassed and humiliated by all of the Sarah Palin shenanigans, including the deplorable behavior of her daughters which continues today, with the recent incident on Facebook where they engaged in foul, derogatory language, and cyber bullying because someone didn't like their mother's reality show. http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/16/sarah-palin-willow-palin-homophobic-slur-facebook-attack-sarah-palins-alaska-dancing-with-the-stars-tlc/ Much of my personal dislike of Sarah Palin comes from feelings of humiliation and embarrassment as a long time Alaskan. Reports like this are why I think the DWTS votes are coming from non-Alaskan, political supporters of her mother:
According to the Associated Press, there are in fact web sites that are championing Bristol and one blogger admits that he has been encouraging people to go around ABC's five vote per phone line, and five vote per email address rule. According to the AP, conservative activist Kevin DuJan of HillBuzz.org wrote recently, "Start calling the moment the show starts ... After that, use someone else's phone to call the maximum times. Then ... randomly knock on neighbors' doors and use their phones to call, call, call, and then call some more." He told the AP he didn't see a problem with his tactic. "If people want to have pajama-jammy-jams all night, having pillow fights and roasting marshmallows and voting, then why not," he told the news organization. "Isn't the winner supposed to be the one who has the most passion behind them? Well, this is passion." http://www.etonline.com/tv/103053_Is_there_a_Dancing_with_the_Stars_Conspiracy/
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11-19-10, 11:38 AM (EST)
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44. "RE: Slight overreaction." |
Agree.I have had somewhat of a soft spot for Bristol. I felt horrible for her being thrown into the public spotlight the way she was, and I've said many, many times, that I don't agree with any politician putting their children into such a life. In this case in particular, I thought that, while teenage pregnancy is something that can and does happy to any family, this was a case that should not have been exploited the way it was, and I do blame Sarah for that. I thought that was unfair to Bristol. I also thought that a lot of the nastiness toward Bristol was also unfair, especially any references to her being a slut. I do agree that she has now opened herself up to public scrutiny, but I do also believe that a lot of the negativity surrounding her comes more out of hatrid for Sarah. I thought she was absolutley beautiful during her pregnancy. I still think she's a beautiful girl, but I do think her looks have aged in the past two years - a lot of that can be contributed to weight gain and the general stress and chaos of her life. While she has had to accept a lot of responsibility and grow up, IMO, she still needs to do a lot of growing up and a lot of maturing. There is something going on with her that I still can't put my finger on. I have never thought she was comfortable in the whole competition. DH has seen the clips, and he has said as well that she looks stiff and uncomfortable. I've always thought Mark was overly attentive. I saw a clip of Tuesday's show where they were practicing and exchanged, "I love yous." Have no idea what that's about. There appear to be lots of rumors out there of something going on between the two. He's only 25, so that age difference is not a huge deal. But deep down, I do think she's still in love with Levi and, given their history and in spite of what he's done, that's understandable. I don't watch the entire show. I record and watch tidbits. I was mainly watching this season for Kurt Warner, but the Bristol situation has turned into somewhat of a trainwreck for me that I can't really turn away from. I watched every minute of Seasons 1 and 2. I really stopped after that for lots of reasons, many of which you list and because I simply can't deal with how they prolong the shows. She's the worst of the dancers left. She wasn't the worst of the season. I laugh more at others' reactions to her still being there. It reminds me a lot of when I used to get irritated with AI or BB or even Survivor - AI moreso than any other because it was also based on public vote. That's probably another reason I stopped watching that and don't really watch this. 
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