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Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-15-13, 06:21 PM (EST) "Teblew it." Well, so much for having a career in a blue state. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/15/1187355/-Tim-Tebow-aligns-with-Hatemongering-Mega-Church I will not argue about the headline being biased. Of course the headline is biased. (You can find more neutral stories by searching for the names: I used this one for the embedded videos.) But the summation of the preacher's positions is accurate, and if that's where Tubya wants to make a personal appearance -- well, it's a very large brush and he'll find it can hold enough tar for everyone. We knew he was likely gone from New York. It may be in his best interests to leave immediately. I wish I could say I was surprised -- no, I don't.   Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: Teblew it. KeithFan 02-17-13 1    RE: Teblew it. Estee 02-17-13 2        RE: Teblew it. PepeLePew13 02-17-13 3        RE: Teblew it. KeithFan 02-18-13 4            I'll translate. Estee 02-18-13 5                RE: I'll translate. KeithFan 02-19-13 6                    RE: I'll translate. Estee 02-19-13 7                        RE: I'll translate. KeithFan 02-20-13 8  RE: Teblew it. Colonel Zoidberg 02-20-13 9    RE: Teblew it. AyaK 02-20-13 10        RE: Teblew it. Estee 02-20-13 11        RE: Teblew it. Colonel Zoidberg 02-20-13 12        RE: Teblew it. KeithFan 02-20-13 13  Te-bowing out cahaya 02-21-13 14    RE: Te-bowing out Estee 02-21-13 15  Another take. Estee 02-23-13 16  Shut up, Rex. Estee 03-19-13 17  RE: Teblew it. cahaya 06-10-13 18    RE: Teblew it. Estee 06-10-13 19        Well. . . AyaK 06-10-13 20            RE: Well. . . cahaya 06-10-13 21            RE: Well. . . Estee 06-10-13 22                RE: Well. . . cahaya 06-10-13 23                    RE: Well. . . AyaK 06-11-13 24                        Vinny says... cahaya 06-11-13 27        RE: Teblew it. bullzeye 06-18-13 34            RE: Teblew it. AyaK 06-18-13 35  Hoodie's press conference. Estee 06-11-13 25    RE: Hoodie's press conference. AyaK 06-11-13 26        RE: Hoodie's press conference. cahaya 06-11-13 28            RE: Hoodie's press conference. AyaK 06-11-13 29                RE: Hoodie's press conference. cahaya 06-11-13 30                    RE: Hoodie's press conference. AyaK 06-12-13 31                        RE: Hoodie's press conference. cahaya 06-12-13 32                            Blast from the past AyaK 06-14-13 33                                RE: Blast from the past cahaya 06-18-13 36                                    RE: Blast from the past AyaK 06-19-13 37

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KeithFan 7413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-13, 05:25 PM (EST) 1. "RE: Teblew it." Ya! Keep talking Tim! Chicago is blue, we don't want you!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-13, 06:41 PM (EST) 2. "RE: Teblew it." So that's what ultimate desperation sounds like. Is there a genuine rumor of him drifting in your general direction, or is this general sports fan paranoia combined with the possibility of your team's owner potentially being exactly this clueless?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

PepeLePew13 24607 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-17-13, 07:47 PM (EST) 3. "RE: Teblew it." It's not like the Bears need someone to tear apart the team and have most of the guys on offense hate him and the offensive line willing to look the other way while the likes of Jared Allen rush in practically untouched at the QB - they already have Jay Cutler for that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KeithFan 7413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-18-13, 04:09 AM (EST) 4. "RE: Teblew it." Well the new OC was asked about him, and he gave the "great athlete, yada yada" speech and speculated as to how he would do at TE (a glaring Bear need)   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-18-13, 09:42 AM (EST) 5. "I'll translate." You're screwed. He won't do well with much of the populace. There's always a hardcore fundamentalist presence to support his preaching if not his play -- but I think he could reasonably expect a high degree of pre-rejection going in.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KeithFan 7413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-19-13, 00:30 AM (EST) 6. "RE: I'll translate." I don't think it is anywhere near serious talk. Bears don't have the cap space to take care of all the guys they would like to keep already, they don't need stunt trades to keep the base interested, and we got lucky to some degree with a potential locker room cancer (Marshall) growing up and becoming Mr. Great Teammate. The only reason I'd ever want to see him in Midnight Blue and Orange would be for a photo-op with surly Jay. That might be a hoot.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-19-13, 09:37 AM (EST) 7. "RE: I'll translate." *nods sagely* Screwed and in denial.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KeithFan 7413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-20-13, 02:05 AM (EST) 8. "RE: I'll translate." How else would *I* end up with 2 kids?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Colonel Zoidberg 3629 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 02-20-13, 01:15 PM (EST) 9. "RE: Teblew it." As far as I knew, Tebow has never stated his beliefs on homosexuality publicly. That having been said, either he agrees with their stance, in which case he'll find only limited support a la Michael Vick, except without the talent, and he won't last, or he's just looking for a mouthpiece, in which case, he'll find himself with a career as a guest speaker at every megachurch in the country, riding the Heisman win for the rest of his life. Either way, he's definitely in minute 15 in the mainstream.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-20-13, 04:18 PM (EST) 10. "RE: Teblew it." Maybe I'm missing something, which isn't difficult since, as an atheist, I don't support any Christian church, but why is Tebow's speech at this church being seen as his endorsement of it? I've seen tapes of Tebow speaking, and the only thing I've seen him endorse is the idea that God will act as a personal Lord and savior -- which is a silly idea, but in no way related to the hate being spewn by this church. It would seem to me that a devout Christian would want to testify far and wide -- even to a Muslim church if it would host him -- because that would be consistent with Jesus' instruction to his disciples in Matthew 10:16-22 to speak to hostile audiences as well as friendly ones: "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves. But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues; and you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. "Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-20-13, 04:32 PM (EST) 11. "RE: Teblew it." Because of this silly belief which has been making the rounds lately -- you know, the one that states 'If you step foot inside a church, you must believe and support everything the person in charge of that facility says and does'. I'm pretty sure it started a couple of elections back. A lot of people subscribe to it and have Amazon auto-renewal. Someone will tar him with that brush. I'm trying to imagine him getting up in front of that congregation and speaking on behalf of equality and same-gender marriage. And I'm managing it. But it keeps ending with a lynching.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Colonel Zoidberg 3629 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Thong Contest Judge" 02-20-13, 05:54 PM (EST) 12. "RE: Teblew it." LAST EDITED ON 02-20-13 AT 05:55 PM (EST) why is Tebow's speech at this church being seen as his endorsement of it? For the same reason George W. Bush's speech at Bob Jones University in 2000 was seen as endorsement of the school's policy against interracial dating. Seriously, though, that misses the point of my rant. Tim Tebow is known for two things - being a Heisman Trophy winner and not a subpar NFL player, and for being a devout and outspoken Christian. And his NFL career is turning sour before our eyes, so all he'll have left is his college career and his faith. Obviously these megachurches are hardly above exploiting his faith, and people who won big awards in college football are not above riding that award for the rest of their lives. See: Griffin, Archie, who is on Columbus sports' version of Mount Rushmore next to Woody Hayes. Such a future of speaking at churches and grand openings is Tebow's future. And frankly, given enough time, no one outside of north Florida will give two sh!ts about him.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

KeithFan 7413 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-20-13, 07:59 PM (EST) 13. "RE: Teblew it." That is enough internet for me today. AyaK is quoting scripture.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-21-13, 12:57 PM (EST) 14. "Te-bowing out" From Tebow's twitter: While I was looking forward to sharing a message of hope and Christ's unconditional love with the faithful members of the historic... ... First Baptist Church of Dallas in April, due to new information that has been brought to my attention, I have decided to cancel my... ...upcoming appearance. I will continue to use the platform God has blessed me with to bring Faith, Hope and Love to all those... ...needing a brighter day. Thank you for all of your love and support. God Bless!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-21-13, 01:05 PM (EST) 15. "RE: Te-bowing out" Turning the new question into 'Was he somehow truly not aware and is now backing away in horror at maximum speed, or does he secretly agree with all of it while having to defend his public reputation?' The world may never know.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 02-23-13, 07:44 PM (EST) 16. "Another take." http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8975694/tim-tebow-simply-win-critics Note the heavy implication that the AFA agrees with everything Jeffries has to say and is ashamed of Tebow for not publicly doing so as a proper Christian. Beyond that -- well, yes, we didn't know what he was going to say. But I still find it unlikely he was showing up to be lynched.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 03-19-13, 05:39 PM (EST) 17. "Shut up, Rex." http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9070314/rex-ryan-makes-clear-new-york-jets-qb-job-grabs So the head coach's positions are as follows: he wants Tubya to stay in town, he wants a quarterback controversy, he wants the winner to be completely ineffective because you can't pass when you're looking over your shoulder, and he wants every back page headline from August through December. But not January, because they're not making the playoffs. Anyone want to trade blowhards?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 06:05 PM (EST) 18. "RE: Teblew it." Well, guess which team just signed Tebow! So, what position(s) will he play? Surely Bill will come up with something.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 06:30 PM (EST) 19. "RE: Teblew it." LAST EDITED ON 06-10-13 AT 07:00 PM (EST) Well, this should be interesting. I've never seen AyaK cry before. ETA: ESPN now confirming, so add Bullzeye to the suicide watch. Understand: it's not about what Tebow might be able to accomplish under the right coach or with the proper position, nor is it about any potential attempt to one-up the Jets again. To me, this mainly concerns what might be the single stupidest move of Hoodie's career: putting Tebow together with the Boston Media. I thought he was smarter than that. I thought Andy Reid would be smarter than that. Start the fatality count now. It's going to be high. Re-ETA: ESPN says the rumor is Tebow's been signed as a quarterback and their blogger feels Hoodie might be doing this partially to prove he can stop the media circus. *hollow laugh* ...yeah, he's lost it.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 07:54 PM (EST) 20. "Well. . ." I've been expecting this news for some time. The only reason New England didn't sign him earlier is that he's only a third-string QB in New England, and Tebow had still been hoping for more than that. Tebow will not be at all divisive in New England, because the only way he'll play in a game that matters, other than on a trick play, is if BOTH Tom Brady and Ryan Mallett get injured, and he had to accept that coming in. It amazed me when someone supposedly "in the know" wrote that Belichick hated Tebow. Even though Tebow brings his own set of issues, Belichick would never turn down the chance of helping out one of Urban Meyer's proteges unless he thought that doing so would hurt the Patriots.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 08:15 PM (EST) 21. "RE: Well. . ." Belichick has long been a fan of Tebow, and this goes back even to April 30 this year (article archived). I'm curious what his official position will be both on the team and in the Yahoo fantasy leagues. How about a QB/TE/RB combo?   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 08:21 PM (EST) 22. "RE: Well. . ." It's like having Jafar wish to be a genie: you've got it -- and everything that goes with it. There are Tebow crazies in Boston and the surrounding area who will immediately start chanting for some Perceived Divine Intervention. You are about to find out just how many. Divine Interception, maybe...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-10-13, 08:34 PM (EST) 23. "RE: Well. . ." I wager Tim won't be throwing the ball much, not with Tom under center. But put the both of them in the backfield together, they could be a potentially dangerous combination, a tandem Belichick is no doubt hoping to exploit. Let's not forget with Belichick did with highly underrated Danny Woodhead, a mere 5'9" 200-pound, but very determined, running back, who'd mouse his way through opponents defenses. And say what you want, Tebow can run and he doesn't fumble the ball. He is very fast around the corner. Tebow has accounted for 29 touchdowns (17 pass/12 rush) and just 16 turnovers in three seasons since the Denver Broncos selected him in the first round of the 2010 NFL draft. He has also averaged five yards per carry. Obviously, the numbers aren't all bad once you get away from the pure-passer elements.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 11:24 AM (EST) 24. "RE: Well. . ." I think Belichick looks at Tebow and sees another Vinnie Testaverde project.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 05:35 PM (EST) 27. "Vinny says..." LAST EDITED ON 06-11-13 AT 05:36 PM (EST) Speaking of Testaverde and fancy footwork... (ESPN, April 29, about a month and a half ago) Testaverde and former NFL QB Chris Weinke, one of the top instructors at IMG, evaluated Tebow last month. Testaverde and Weinke "speak the same quarterback language," as Testaverde put it, because they both played under Dan Henning, a former Jets and Panthers coordinator. "Chris and I looked at Tim careful and we were both amazed," Testaverde said. "Everybody has been focusing on his throwing motion, trying to fix that, but nobody had picked up his footwork. His footwork was all screwed up. Chris and I looked at each other after about four or five throws, and we saw the same thing. We got his footwork fixed. His throwing motion is now a non-issue. "He throws with what we call 'effortless power.' He doesn't have that elongated motion anymore and his head isn't moving 2 1/2 feet when he throws it." Asked to explain Tebow's footwork flaws in layman's terms, Testaverde said "he was stepping in the wrong direction when he was throwing the football."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

bullzeye 4953 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Stuff Magazine Centerfold" 06-18-13, 12:42 PM (EST) 34. "RE: Teblew it." ETA: ESPN now confirming, so add Bullzeye to the suicide watch. That would probably have been the case had we not experienced Randy Moss. I thought Moss was going to be a nightmare when he was signed, and he turned out to be a phenomenal acquisition. I suspect Bill knows a bit more about these things than I do.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-18-13, 03:50 PM (EST) 35. "RE: Teblew it." One of the things we've learned is that you can never tell how a Patriots' acquisition of a controversial player will work out, but you can guarantee that there won't be another Lawyer Milloy incident (with the player mouthing off about Belichick). Good acquisitions: Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, Aqib Talib Bad acquisitions: Albert Haynesworth, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson To be determined: Tim Tebow, LeGarrette Blount   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Estee 54731 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 11:39 AM (EST) 25. "Hoodie's press conference." LAST EDITED ON 06-11-13 AT 11:43 AM (EST) At this point in his career, I truly don't understand why any members of the press would show up not to be talked to. ETA: I indulged in a little sports talk radio earlier. Not only is Tubya the lead (and nearly only) story, but theories of why Hoodie signed him are growing wild on fertile fields of total crap. My favorite to date: because Brady is getting up there in quarterback years, Hoodie may not want to risk having him stay at his position in the fourth quarter of blowout games. So rather than follow the great Hoodie tradition of running up the score, he'll simply pull Brady and put Tubya in to run the game's last few plays. As one of the hosts immediately noted, this would mean Hoodie has just hired a knee-taking specialist. Well, he does take one in such a 'special' way...   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 04:51 PM (EST) 26. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." None of that is going to happen, as we all know.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 05:51 PM (EST) 28. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." There's the media joshing around and then there is Josh. Tim Tebow has signed with the New England Patriots and the media has already dubbed the move as the "Boston Tebow Party."   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 08:27 PM (EST) 29. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." McDaniels is part of it, but those of us in Boston remember Belichick praising Tebow when Tebow was still in college (and before McDaniels went to Denver). I brought up Testaverde because I had also seen Vinnie Testaverde's quote and I know that there are few people that Belichick respects more than Testaverde. When Bernie Kosar suffered his ultimately career-ending injuries (that he tried to play through), Belichick decided to replace him with Testaverde, whom Belichick was able to get cheaply from Tampa Bay, where Testaverde had been a JaMarcus Russell-sized bust (although he'd lasted there for 6 years). Testaverde went on to play for another 15 years in the NFL.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-11-13, 09:38 PM (EST) 30. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." Testaverde went on to play for another 15 years in the NFL. He still holds a lot of NFL and franchise records, simply because of his longevity and ability to stay on the field. Alas, his record with the Pats is a paltry 2/3 passing for 29 yards and a (record season extending) TD pass. Career-wise, he had a 275 TD / 267 Int ratio, for a vanilla 75.0 passer rating, playing for 8 different teams, mainly with the Bucs, Browns and the Jets. Even so, it's pretty incredible for a QB to last for an amazing 21 seasons ('87-'07) like he did.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-12-13, 06:29 PM (EST) 31. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." While Testaverde only played part of one season with the Patriots, he played for Belichick in both Cleveland and New York prior to that.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-12-13, 07:11 PM (EST) 32. "RE: Hoodie's press conference." LAST EDITED ON 06-12-13 AT 07:22 PM (EST) Thanks, that's something I didn't know. I missed out on a lot of NFL living overseas until playing FF. As a kid and a paperboy who religiously read the sports columns and stats (not to mention the stock market), I lived on this kind of thing. We'll see. I think the Tebow experiment could turn out well, given who is coaching him. He has the qualities that Bill seeks most, work ethic, determination, ability to learn, teamwork and an example and elan that can make a team a winner. Tebow has all of these qualities, but whether he can translate it to team wins on the field (or even make the 90-man cut) obviously still remains to be seen.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-14-13, 02:18 PM (EST) 33. "Blast from the past" Here's an article from 1993, right after Belichick waived Bernie Kosar to give the starting job in Cleveland to a (then-injured) Testaverde, which led to the Browns missing the playoffs. The Browns would have made the playoffs had Belichick kept and started Kosar, but he didn't want a QB controversy to such an extreme extent that he was willing to miss the playoffs to prevent one. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1138788/ The Browns made the playoffs the next year behind Testaverde and beat Bill Parcells' New England Patriots in the first round of the playoffs. But then Browns' owner/moron Art Modell announced at the start of the 1995 season that he was going to move the team to Baltimore for 1996, leading to the team (and Belihick) quitting on Modell during the season. Testaverde, who was under contract, was stuck and had to go to Baltimore, but Belichick went to New England, which made the Super Bowl. At the end of the season, Parcells and Belichick fled to the New York Jets in a turf battle with Bobby Grier (who won that battle but lost the war three years later when he was fired to make way for Belichick's return). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Grier_(American_football_coach) After their first season in New York, Parcells and Belichick acquired Testaverde from the Ravens (which was only possible because Testaverde had missed almost all of the 1997 season due to injury), and he was the Jets' starting QB for the next two years while Belichick was there, until Belichick went back to New England (where he already had Drew Bledsoe and then drafted a rookie named Tom Brady). Testaverde, meanwhile, stayed in NYC through 2003, after which Parcells (now in Dallas) traded for him for the Cowboys.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

cahaya 18711 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-18-13, 07:00 PM (EST) 36. "RE: Blast from the past" LAST EDITED ON 06-18-13 AT 07:02 PM (EST) Thanks! Love that first article, which in part goes: Belichick knows it's all weird, but there's a catch: He doesn't care. That's just the way he is. Take him or leave him. This is football, and in football there's no room for hand-wringing and squishy psychoanalysis. "You prepare a team as best you can," he says. "You put them on the field, and you do your very best to win. The rest hardly matters. I may look at the paper every now and then, but come on. I've got other things to worry about." At least he's consistent. He spends much of an interview at the Browns' training complex explaining how much he hates doing interviews. He would rather chew aluminum foil for an hour than be interviewed. He is by turns dour, suspicious and ornery, although in an unfailingly polite sort of way. If Bill Belichick: The Movie were ever made, Belichick would be played by Harrison Ford: aloof, rumpled, preoccupied by things the rest of us will never fully understand. He hasn't changed a bit, has he? (ETA) Hey, grats on your 10 K, Aya K!   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

AyaK 10001 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold" 06-19-13, 01:38 PM (EST) 37. "RE: Blast from the past" He hasn't changed a bit, has he? He really hasn't. The difference was that in Cleveland, people already hated Art Modell for firing Marty Schottenheimer to hire the disorganized Bud Carson, who then had to be fired in his second season and was replaced with Belichick instead of the people's choice, Bill Cowher (who was then hired by Pittsburgh the next year). In New England, Belichick came in as the people's choice to replace Pete Carroll, as a link back to the Super Bowl season under Parcells. Thus, his flaws were seen much less critically than they were viewed in Cleveland.   Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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