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"Because You Left/The Lie"
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01-21-09, 08:43 AM (EST)
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"Because You Left/The Lie" |
Welcome back all to Season 5!Finally season premiere time! Just a few more hours! It's 2 two hour episodes tonight after the recap "Destiny Calls". Title spec? It seems like the first title "Because You Left" refers to the O6 but you never know with Lost, it could be because someone's daddy left home! Same thing with "The Lie" are we talking about the big O6 lie or is it something else? I have no idea because I am pretty much spoiler free other than the coming attractions they put on tv. I don't even know who these episodes center around. Please remember to keep all spoilers for this episode in hidden text. Now excuse me while I go move the island.
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01-21-09, 07:23 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I just need a hot drink, a squishy blanket, the dogs to be sleeping peacefully, and my jammies. I don't do spoilers for Lost, it's just too much fun not to know. It's one of the shows I truly enjoy on it's own merits. I so need a Sawyer fix.....  Fear and Loathing Tribe style 2008
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01-21-09, 09:57 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
Oh... My... Gosh... What an episode. What a revealing episode. I want to comment on a few things, but can't because it's only the first hour. Finally... answers.
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zombiebaby 7355 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 07:11 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-22-09 AT 07:12 AM (EST)One thing...did we get an answer of the "whispers"? It's them or whoever traveling through time watching them! Right? Why does Richard need glasses? *hee* Did Ben get a facelift? Be back later...I think the whole tone of the show changed! *throws hot pocket at mrc*
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Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 07:53 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
Am I suppose to know who the old lady at the end was?
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 08:59 AM (EST)
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19. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
Great episodes!I really liked the wink at Survivor. When they returned to the beach and had to start all over, the dynamics and events were typical of Survivor. Bernard trying to make fire with a piece of wood and a string just like Keith in the Outback and being just as unsuccessful. Then, whatsisname going out to find food and brining back a pig. Neil complaining about the whole thing. I was telling myself that he'd be the first one booted off the island and just then... well Fire was Death!!! Daniel appears to be able to move in time on his own. It was quite interesting to see him when Dharma was building the Orchid. He seemed to know what was behind the rocks. And, could his mother be also Miss Hawking who was with Ben at the end? Where or rather when did the British commando get to the island and who send them?

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Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 09:11 AM (EST)
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20. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I wasn't sure who the old woman was and my first thought was that she was Daniel's Mom, whom Desmond is suppose to find.
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01-22-09, 09:13 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I didn't think it was a British commando, I thought it was Dharma people....and the Dharma people thought our Losties were Hostiles.So glad that Cane was cancelled so that we get to see more of yummy, yummy Richard Alpert. So glad I hadn't read any spoilers....Anna Lucia...LMAO. Is Sun a bad guy now? Didn't she seem a little evil with Kate? Ben was definitely nervous around Mrs. Hawkins. SHE is the big boss I think. Do you think she has anything to do\could be Farraday's mother from Oxford? Is Desmond going to get a big surprise when he goes to see her? bouncey by Ice Suddenly my winter blahs have disappears....I have LOST them!
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01-22-09, 10:11 AM (EST)
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34. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I remember Daniel saying something about being within the parameter. So maybe the freighter was outside with the Zodiac was in.
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01-22-09, 01:08 PM (EST)
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63. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
>So glad that Cane was cancelled >so that we get to >see more of yummy, yummy >Richard Alpert.Couldn't agree with you more!! Especially with those reading glasses!! Grrr! (but why would a dude who doesn't age need reading glasses?)
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01-22-09, 04:10 PM (EST)
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78. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
The glasses sort of looked like those magnifying ones my dentist uses. All the better to poke into a wound and retrieve a bullet without messing up.
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01-22-09, 07:46 PM (EST)
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87. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
michel, that's so funny that you saw a Survivor connection. When Daniel started flipping through his notes, I thought, 'oh that's like michel with his Survivor notes,' lol!  I think Daniel's going to be a key figure this season. It was a surprise to see him underground when they were building the Orchid, just checking things out! I thought the "British commando" guy and friends were Dharma because of their shirts with their names on them, although his accent threw me off. But who were the people with the flaming arrows, the hostiles? Dharma has so many guns, the flaming arrows seem so primitive (but effective). 
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michel 10812 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 07:59 PM (EST)
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90. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
You gotta have notes!! Don't you think it was a nod at Survivor?I looked at the British commando's uniform and they didn't have the Dharma logo. As far as Daniel, check my post #86 and see that I also think he and his mom will be key. 
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01-23-09, 12:27 PM (EST)
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100. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
Another thought on the shirt - it could be very early Dharma before they built all the stations and created a logo. They were still trying to win the island from the hostiles (who threw the flaming arrows) and hadn't set up shop yet.
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mrc 10020 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 09:19 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
My thoughts:1. Daniel's mom is going to be super important, I think. She needs a new computer, though. 2. I wonder if what Sawyer told Kate was something that he knew from traveling through time. I guess not, seeing as how one can't change fate, but it was my first thought when I thought about that part of the recap after the episode was over. 3. I think the two guys who confronted Kate were the two guys working for Ben mentioned in the meat shop. 4. The opening scene with Dr. Candle was great. At first, I wondered why Sun had remarried so quickly, then I realized that the woman couldn't have been Sun. I *really* like seeing the early years of the Dharma Iniative. 5. Ana-Lucia's appearance was pretty funny. Good ole Hurley! 6. Sun is much deeper and more complex that I ever would have thought. 7. Sawyer and Juliet are *so* gonna knock boots this season. I didn't see as many answers as I thought I would, but it was a great returning episode. Tribefied
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CTgirl 7073 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 07:51 PM (EST)
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88. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I loved how the opening scene was reminiscent of Season 2 and Desmond in the hatch too. The same getting up in the morning, putting on a record, etc. We're wondering who it is - and even the same clock (I had that clock too a long time ago!)
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zombiebaby 7355 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 09:36 AM (EST)
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26. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
It's long like usual.1. My big question now is really what is going on with Claire? 2. Sun is creepy now. It was interesting to see her and Kate. Their personalities seemed a bit switched from the island. 3. Faraday kept calling Desmond special, just like everyone called Walt special and Aaron special. 4. Were Hurley's daddy issues resolved here? Seemed it. I felt like Hurley was speaking to the audience in this. He told his mom "don't worry, it will all make sense". Interesting that Hurley's mom also said "Only bad people kill people". 5. I wonder if Ben is lying about being able to return to the island once you move it. I think he was using Locke all along and told him that. I think he knew that Locke would have to die and Ben did not want to be the one to do that. I think Ben can go back to the island, he just does not know where it is. 6. Cutting off hands? Very Star Wars again. I wonder if that is what happened to Candle? 7. If the island is constantly skipping how can Sawyer/Juliet et all ever get any sleep? 8. Why do the o6 need to be back? Do they prevent the skipping? Kind of like a constant. It is similiar to how Des was skipping all around in "The Constant" 9. When Walt appeared to Locke back in Season 3 after Locke was shot does that mean Walt had come back already? Was he back on the island skipping? 10. Previously on Expose....loved it with Hurley dad getting his snacks all ready. I'm trying to remember that episode where Hurley said he could not believe who the Cobra was all along. It was Bily Dee Williams. 11. I really like Juliet and Sawyer together. I loved how they kept showing Sawyer getting hot headed and Juliet would step in and calm everything down. Good pair for leader rather than Jack and Kate. I'm rooting for these two! 12. The tone of the show changed and there are no flashbacks or forwards anymore. In hindsight I think it was a brilliant way to tell a story. Very dramatic and allowed for great character developement while enabling great twists a la switching to flash forwards.
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01-22-09, 04:27 PM (EST)
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79. "RE: I really like" |
I somehow am doubtful about Sun's alliance with Widmore. Wouldn't you think she would blame Widmore for Jin's death more so than Ben? Widmore was the one that sent the freighter and hired the goons - Keamy et al. My personal thought is that Sun and Ben are secretly working together, and trying to trap Widmore.
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01-22-09, 09:43 AM (EST)
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28. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I really enjoyed the recap, where the producers injected comments. Plus it refreshed my memory on some things.Then LOVED the season premiere! Still lots of questions, but I'm ok with them so far. I'm with the group thinking the lady at the end is Farraday's mom, and I think the goons are pushing Kate to run back to the island, so they must be working for Ben. Loved seeing Anna Lucia. I find it curious that Ben said "I lost Reyes".
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01-22-09, 09:52 AM (EST)
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30. "More thoughts/questions" |
Neil had on a red shirt  Could Miles be the baby that Dr. Candle tended to or is he too young? Why did Locke have to die and why is his body so important to bring back? How come they all got swept into the same time period at first except for Locke? And how come no one else but Charlotte got the nosebleed (I don't like her much but I felt pretty bad when I saw that happen)? If Richard is so all knowing how come he said to Locke: the next time you see me I won't recognize you? I thought he was the supreme time traveler. Oh, wait-Faraday is the big time traveler. So what time period is he really from? Is he original Dharma? How come he was able to get Des to open the door and talk to him after telling Sawyer it couldn't be done? What the heck did Sawyer step on and why was it given a scene of its own? I didn't get that or why he wanted a shirt so badly  Who can wait until next week for more?
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Breezy 18379 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 10:22 AM (EST)
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43. "*head Dracos*" |
Moooooonnnnn! Some good thoughts there, but now my head is spinning.
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01-22-09, 03:20 PM (EST)
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75. "Toe" |
Speculation on the street ie: other boards is maybe Sawyer's toe gets infected and has to be amputated causing him to be the inspiration for the 4 toed statue!
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02-02-09, 04:59 PM (EST)
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111. "RE: More thoughts/questions" |
I thought he took the sand, the compass and then the knife. Richard seemed annoyed when he picked up the knife..not sure why.
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01-22-09, 01:32 PM (EST)
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67. "RE: Question" |
So why did Daniel say that before the island moved they were caught in a loop? Didn't he? Do I have a swiss cheese brain? Help!!!
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mrc 10020 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 02:14 PM (EST)
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71. "RE: Whispers" |
I'll tell ya, zombs, those whispers are freakin' spooky when you read the transcripts! I wonder if they are voices from other "times."
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01-22-09, 02:11 PM (EST)
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70. "Time\Space Stuff" |
I couple of theories\questions about the time/space stuff:Oceanic 6: If they were in one time space...the Losties would not have been away 108 days as indicated by Oceanic Airlines at the O6 press conference. Ben's Journey Through the Donkey Wheel: Notice Ben immediately ends up in the Sahara after turning the donkey wheel. He sees a press conference about Nadia's death...which obviously takes place some time after the O6 have returned. I think 6 months was the time I had heard. Jin: Regarding Jin and the time\space stuff. I think Jin was in a different wave of the perimiter, and thus I think he is in a different time/space zone that both the islanders and the O6'ers. I think he is going to turn up as an old man. He's definitely not dead. Dharma and the Hostiles: I think that the Losties are really the hostiles, or will become part of the hostiles. They have or will be blipped back to the Dharma time. Remember in the early days of Lost, Darlton told us that twins were important. Perhaps it was not twins, but the Losties themselves from two different time zones. Okay, my brain is spinning! bouncey by Ice
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miamicatt 9247 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 04:51 PM (EST)
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81. "RE: Ooo!" |
I wondered that too. Plus I was thinking back to the first season and the two decayed bodies in the cave. Which of our Losties are in the cave?
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01-22-09, 04:51 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
My thoughts (which will most likely echo other's thoughts):1. Loved the start of the season premiere. It was very reminiscent of the season 2 premiere - which I loved... unknown man waking up, making breakfast, showering, exercising, playing music - and it's Desmond... ahhh! This ep... unknown man wakes up to baby crying, gets baby's bottle ready, feeds baby, showers, goes to work, music playing - and it's Marvin(?) Candle... ahhh! 2. I thought the baby was a girl. I was a distance away from a teeny tv, but I thought the baby didn't really have Asian features? I'll say that the baby is Charlotte. 3. What's up with Faraday? Dude's everywhere! 4. I kept telling Sawyer to put a shirt on. 5. So just how are Jack & Ben supposed to get a dead body in a coffin back to the island without anybody noticing? 6. What was in the box that Ben pulled out of the vent? He tried to be casual about it but at the same time was hiding it from Jack. 7. I think Charlotte is going to die... it's like she doesn't belong in that time continuim or something like that. 8. Who were those military dudes? Nasty bunch if they were going to cut off Juliet's hand without getting answers in the first. 9. When will they add Rose & Bernard as part of the regular cast? 10. I was hoping that Locke would make it to the plane and I would see Yemi. 11. It's funny that the ageless Richard Alpert needs reading glasses... but they made him look really hot. (*swoon*) 12. Ben looked nervous for the first time ever in the presence of that woman. 13. The woman is Faraday's mom. 14. Loved seeing Ana Lucia! She looked so polished compared to her island days. Loved the "Libby says hi" line. 15. Oh, did I mention that Richard Alpert is hot? And he needs more screen time. Siggie courtesy of Seana
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zombiebaby 7355 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-22-09, 05:04 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
Didn't Ben have or look at a walking cane or stick(not the baton of doom), the same one that was in The Orchid near the convulsing Dharma guy?
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01-22-09, 08:11 PM (EST)
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91. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
There isn't much more I can add - everyone has posted so many things to think about! I thought it was a great premiere. Even though they didn't answer many questions, I like the time traveling format and feel like all the pieces are coming together. It's going to be great to see how everything fits.It was exciting too! There were several times when my stomach lurched. My nerves!! I loved it. I like how Hurley is the moral conscience of the Oceanic 6 (and he's the crazy one?!) Listening to his monotone recital of every unbelievable thing that has happened was hysterical. And of course his line to Sayid, "Maybe if you ate more comfort food, you wouldn't have to go around shooting people," totally cracked me up. Poor guy had to run to the cops to escape Ben. Can't wait to see how they spring him from jail! 
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01-23-09, 07:12 AM (EST)
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93. "The Timeline of the skipping island" |
Haven't seen this analysis anywhere so far.It seems to me, after reviewing the episodes, there were 4 "flashes" on the island after the O6 left. I am convinced Locke is moving along with the other Lostie group. Flash 1: key clue is the crash of the Nigerian plane. I don't recall exaactly when in time this occurred, but I guess we could figure it out from reviewing Mr. Ecko's flashback. I will guess it is about 1991 to 1995. Flash 2: sometime in the future, meaning post-January 2005. Losties find the Hatch is blown. Flash 3: Desmond is in the hatch, so this timeline is between 2001 and 2004 Flash 4: the Brit or Australian soldiers and the flaming arrows. It has to be in the past, but when? From the uniforms I think it must be post WWII. I also think that the "70 hour window" Mrs. Hawking referred to means that she has calculated the island will return to the same time as the rest of the world for a 70 hour window, and that is the only time the O6 will be able to get there. (Alternatively, the island may not actually be at the same time as the rest of the world during that 70 hours, but it will at least be at a time when the O6 can bridge the gap.)
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CTgirl 7073 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-23-09, 08:59 AM (EST)
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97. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
I promise this season I won't make any comments about Lost on OT before you've had a chance to watch it!
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mrc 10020 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Playboy Centerfold"
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01-23-09, 10:29 AM (EST)
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98. "Dr. Candle" |
One more thing--Dr. Candle has been seen in other orientation videos w/ a prosthetic hand. He apparently had his original hand in this episode. I wonder if there is some connection to the peeps threatening to cut off Juliet's hand and Candle losing his.
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01-25-09, 09:24 PM (EST)
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109. "RE: Dr. Candle" |
He has had a different name in each video. However I think in the video released this summer he said his name was Chang.
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01-24-09, 03:37 PM (EST)
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103. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
LAST EDITED ON 01-24-09 AT 04:24 PM (EST)So I wonder...this is out there. Could Locke way back in season 1 when he encounters the "monster" and claims he "looked into the eye of the island and it was beautiful" or something like that be related to our current events? Could post-move Locke have gone back to that time and killed himself? Then we would have the "body" to send back? Locke would then take his own place and re-live all that time back up to now? Thi is where all those time travel theories get wonky and confusing and what rules apply to what show etc. Also have y'all seen this link? It is "in game".
http://www.ajiraairways.com/home
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01-25-09, 08:00 PM (EST)
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107. "RE: Because You Left/The Lie" |
>LAST EDITED ON 01-24-09 >AT 04:24 PM (EST) > >So I wonder...this is out there. > Could Locke way back >in season 1 when he >encounters the "monster" and claims >he "looked into the eye >of the island and it >was beautiful" or something like >that be related to our >current events? Could post-move >Locke have gone back to >that time and killed himself? > Then we would have >the "body" to send back? > Locke would then take >his own place and re-live >all that time back up >to now? > >Thi is where all those time >travel theories get wonky and >confusing and what rules apply >to what show etc. > > >Also have y'all seen this link? > It is "in game". > > >http://www.ajiraairways.com/home You can find out more about the above link at: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ajira_Airways If you haven't been to lostpedia yet, you should go! It has all the info and trivia on everything about lost. It includes each character, episode, situation, and theory. I get LOST (pun intended) in the web site all the time. Libby says hi----loved it!

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trigirl 2844 desperate attention whore postings DAW Level: "Howard Stern Show Guest"
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02-03-09, 10:37 AM (EST)
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112. "RE: From the way back machine!" |
Wooo love that. Forgot how much I miss Boone.
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