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"What did everyone think?"
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10-04-06, 11:18 PM (EST)
 
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1. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
I was disappointed. I would have liked to see everyone else more. And I hated Jack's backstory. I just hate Jack.
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10-05-06, 10:08 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
Morning Everyone,I thought the episode was fine....I don't expect to have everything answered in the first episode. We still have two more seasons after this one to go. I like seeing a concentrated story to start. If we go scattershot, nothing gets answered at all. Then we hear about how they have lost focus. I was intrigued by the opening sequence. Juliet plays "Downtown", yet another song from the 60s, but it was on a CD player. Plus the clothing looked very 60s, but you could see it was a Steven King book being discussed. Hmmm....
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10-05-06, 00:20 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
Was it just me or was there a 'Planet of the Apes' moment when Sawyer was but back in the cage.
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10-05-06, 07:50 AM (EST)
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7. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
I loved it! I just keep in mind that this show is like a long epic novel. I don't want all these answers right away or if I do I want more questions! Otherwise? The show would be over. Sure I wanted to see the other Lostaways. They will be shown. It was only an hour episode and it went by way to fast! My big question...are Jack's issues resolved? He found out his wife is happy. Was that his father's voice on the intercom?
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10-05-06, 08:09 AM (EST)
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8. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
*sits with zombs*Great episode. That Michael Emerson is one creepy dood! Hopefully, we have resolved some of Jack's backstory so that we can move on to others (or the Others). That Juliet is intriguing. Will she and Jack hook up now that it seems obvious that Kate and Sawyer (SKate) dig each other? In case you didn't notice, Zeke was revealed as the show's first gay character. ("You're not my type." Bwahahahaha!) 
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10-05-06, 09:25 AM (EST)
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14. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
skooches zoombie and mrc over, gets cozyLoved it. Thought the beginning was an Others flashback. I'm so gullible. I was prepared they were only going to show the 3. It's been said a bunch lately, so I didn't give it a second thought. Love Sawyer, he's just such a 12 year old. And glad Jack got some closure, I always thought Sara died, so see one question answered. The place they're keeping Jack was making me feel claustrophobic though! Poor Kate, she looked so beaten, not beaten up, just beaten. Glad she got put near Sawyer. I caught that about Zeke too.
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10-05-06, 08:10 AM (EST)
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9. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-05-06 AT 08:11 AM (EST)I really, really liked it. It gives a lot of insight into "the others." The psychological experiments on the captives were brilliant, and it really calls into question the other's assertion that they themselves are "the good guys." True if by "good guys" they mean fascists, or detached scientists, or creepy commune dwellers. The archetype would seem to dictate that the "scary others" are, in fact, the "good guys" but the experiments (manipulating Kate, breaking Jack, and treating Sawyer like a irrational animal) are really interesting. I'm not sure any twist will satisfy me if they do indeed turn out to be good guys. Also, did Sawyer not have a bandaid and needle-mark on his arm? I don't think he did, but I might be mistaken. The woman who came in to work Jack was really great. I liked her role a whole lot. I wonder how she got brought into the circle, and the whole book club scene made me think she was a weak, timid sorta person (and when she spoke up to Ben/Henry, it was out of character... you know, the wimp finding some resolve deep down to finally speak up for herself) but with Jack, she was masterfully manipulative. The transition from book club wimp to psychological torturer is too great. And her shot at Sawyer with the tranq was too... practiced? perfect? She's such an interesting character, as is Henry/Ben. I am eager to see what happened to the other plane crash survivors, too, but I rather liked the concentrated story last night.
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10-05-06, 11:29 AM (EST)
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17. "RE: Disappointed" |
LAST EDITED ON 10-05-06 AT 11:44 AM (EST)Thank you!! I was just so irritated after the first sequence... I think they are adding stuff along the way and muddling "their long epic novel" with too much crap...case in pt. I read an article in paper this week that Henry/Ben was supposed to be on the show for 3 eps but then they liked his character so much now he is head of the others.... Enough already with Jack and Kate and Sawyer...If I were Locke and Sayid, I'd let em rot  I was asking dbf some questions about the storyline and he said you know "I just don't care"....I think it's def. going to be watched on DVR from now on and FF could be my new best friend. So what do you think about Mohinder (from Heroes)...he is Hot! Def. my new no. 1 show! 
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10-05-06, 08:56 AM (EST)
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12. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
I got a phone call and didn't even bother telling the person to call back after Lost. *yawn*
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10-05-06, 12:00 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
I don't know....I was up and down on it....Kate’s wrists were pretty roughed up when she got put in the cage and she was hungry.....so I wonder what happen on the beach.... I'm also a little sick of Jack...and what happen to Hugo? He was captured too and they did not show anything about him. Plus closing a door that water is pushing in on....not possible unless Julia and Jack are Superwoman and Superman....  
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10-08-06, 09:27 AM (EST)
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43. "RE: What did everyone think?" |
I had forgotten all about Hurley being captured as well. But after being reminded, maybe there is something to the fact that the Others kept the 3 that have some kind of really negative flaw in their character. Although Jack is a Dr. and supposedly "good" as opposed to Sawyer and Kate, we see in his back story that he has a very negative character flaw as in obsessive/stalker.Hurley on the other hand is an innocent, and therefore "good." This could be in favor of the idea that the Others are good and are trying to teach the 3 lessons they need to learn. On the other hand: Juliet is an interesting character as well. She seems almost to be the one from the Others who might crack. She seemed to be loosing it in the beginning, which suggests that not all is bliss within the Others and that Henry Gale is a dictator controlling type of person who has the Others brainwashed. I agree with others that the Jack back story is getting old and uninteresting. 
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10-05-06, 02:58 PM (EST)
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31. "RE: Kate's location" |
I wondered that too. Or maybe they were deciding who she would be mated with?
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10-05-06, 04:53 PM (EST)
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35. "RE: Juliette" |
Last year's song (with Desmond in the hatch) was by Mama Cass. What's peculiar is that when I first heard that song last year, I thought it was Petula Clark singing, who of course is the one singing "Downtown" (with Juliette). There is a definite similarity between the two singers' voices. Does this have some greater symbolism?
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10-08-06, 10:55 PM (EST)
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45. "RE: Doesn't seem" |
was that "tom cruise's cousin" in the cage??? i know there is a william mapother on the credits...was that him??
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10-06-06, 12:09 PM (EST)
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41. "Episode 1 thoughts" |
I rewatch the episode last night. I liked it. Much better than most of the episodes from last season especially the middle ones where things really bogged down. The opening was brilliant although not quiet as brilliant as last seasons which it mimiced in style and music (the two songs were not the same but very similar).I thought we actually learned quiet a bit, given we were only shown three of the main characters (we were introduced to another new character Juliet and of course more background on the creapy Ben aka the artist formerly know as Henry Gale). It appears that the Kate choice is Sawyer, while not unexpected is also probably not going to really last either. I just don't see Saywer as a kept man for long, he will eventually break her heart if he's given long enough to do it. Obviously what we missed was the other castaways, fine with me as long as its something resolved soon, I would much rather a good tight storyline focusing on just a couple of characters than the mess you run into when everyone has to have a role. We only get an hour (40 minutes really), with a cast a large as Lost it doesnt work to have everyone be involved in everything. Plus if you looked close we did get several clues, even if you dont follow the spoiler sites, the actors who play Eko, Locke, AND Desmond all appear in the credits, they are all coming back for the season (although possibly not next week that looks like a Sayid/Jin/Sun epidode on the sailboat). Again that is very similar to last season when we had a raft story, and tail story, and a hatch storyline all being told in different episodes, before being brought all back together over the course of multiple episodes. So what we learned, well the Others appear to be normal people, as normal as you can be while living in a closed society in a little village on the top of a otherwise "deserted" island... that no one can get to. Clearly they are not completely isolated from the outside world because they have such things as CD players and Steven King books, although since we are talking about "Carrie" and not something newer it is possible they have been isolated for a while (the Jack dossier not withstanding). In rewatching I got the impression Ben and Juliet do not in fact get along, whether they were at one time close (perhaps even lovers) is possible, but I dont know too many people who would want their EX to join their bookclub... although in such a closed society (and the fact that Ben appears to be the leader) I suppose its not out of the question. I also noted that there were in fact no children in the Other camp. I think it is fair to assume since the Others appear to be very interested in children, and the fact that there were none in the camp suggests that perhaps something in the Others make up prevents them from having their own children. Next its clear that what they are mostly doing is psychological warfare against the three prisoners. Kate they physically treated delicately but mentally ripped appart. Sawyer they treated as an animal (literally). Jack got the severe mind screwing with the dossier which might include nothing, all that matters is they he believed they new everything even if they didnt. I wonder if perhaps they drugged and interrogated Jack (and Kate) and got the information they were looking for to use for their mind games or whether they are in fact connected to the outside world in a more direct manner. Nothing you see ever really is what it appears to be on the island it seems. Which leads us to the underwater hatch. Put me in the camp that there is no underwater hatch. It's a clever illusion to simulate underwater. Notice how easy it is for Ben and Juliet to come back and forth from there? Also if the water really was rushing in and they were underwater Jack and Juliet would be dead now, its a trick to make Jack think hes underwater so he wont try to escape again. The same thing with Sawyer, they plant "Chachi" to escape so that Sawyer will see the futility of it and wont try it himself. The Others clearly love the mind games, and if the captives can figure that out they have a fighting chance, otherwise they might as well be pushing a button in a hatch for the next 3 years. As far as the flashback goes, Jack is pathetic. He drives his wife away then become Mr. Obsessive Stalker dude. Accuses his father of infidelity with her at an AA meeting, and drives him back to drinking which in turn leads to the "accidential" death, and the drinking himself to death in Australia. No wonder Jack questions his own judgement it is clearly bad, and for a hero he is definately severely flawed. Oh and one last thing, I dont know if I buy the Mr Friendly is gay theory. I got a different feel personally, more of a plantation owner and his slave vibe. He may well be gay, but I think he would have made the same comment to Jack or Sawyer as well, they simply are not his type of person, because he looks at them more like cattle or a subspecies perhaps. All that being said I do think the reason Kate/Sawyer/Jack were selected was because they want them for breeding purposes, and Kate becomes their little baby incubator. Time will tell on that theory, but so far I like the start of the season... is it next week yet? -ICB
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10-10-06, 03:23 PM (EST)
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48. "addicted nonetheless" |
I gotta admit, I don't care about the answers. I feel like I watch every week to see more possibilities. I'm more addicted to the questions the show raises than the need to have answers. I never would have expected the Others to live in this neat little Stepford village. So I liked that a new angle was presented right away this season. I thought Sawyer's mode of captivity was totally appropriate cause he is a bit of an animal. I love that he is still coming up with nicknames for people. That's my favorite Sawyer trait. I could have handled less Jack story. I feel with each detail we learn, I like him less. I wish his character was stay the pure hero. I don't understand why they have to corrupt his story. I hope we get to find out what happened to Kate in between the beach breakfast and her placement in the cage, cause she did not look well when she arrived at the cage. I look forward to learning the fate of my other favorite characters next week.
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10-10-06, 04:21 PM (EST)
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49. "Add to the Loved it list" |
Finally, my favorite show is back on the air and, as expected, there are many more questions and not many answers.The beginning was great. Season 1 we saw the front-of-the-plane losties, then last season the tailies' story was filled in and added and now "The Others" from the time the plane crashed. This is getting good. We see that Ben sent out the spies to gather the info. My biggest question is how did they get the "file" on Jack and most likely all the others from the plane? Obviously there is a direct link to the outside world still. Since Jack is one of my least favorite characters, I could have done with a lot less of Jack this episode. However, at least it showed clearly what I've been getting off his character all along -- huge chip on the shoulder, passive-aggressive obsessive control freak! Oh and very stubborn, too!  I did find it interesting that Jack was suspicious that his father was the new man in his ex's life and that following his fight at his father's AA meeting, Daddy fell off the wagon. Jack has to be carrying that guilt with him now, too. "Ben" wears his creepiness on his sleeve, while I think the book club lady is a wolf in sheep's clothing. She was great in the episode. I wanted to see under Sawyer's sleeve to see if he also had blood taken. Sawyer added much of the comic relief to the episode, although I cracked up when Ben had the "Then you don't get any coffee" line to Kate. Why was the boy in the other cage? What was his "crime" and did they kill him after his escape attempt? He sure was beaten up quite a bit. Can't wait to see what the "next 2 weeks" ends up being. Why are Kate & Sawyer in cages, while Jack is in the fish tank? So many new questions. Wonder how the fish biscuit tastes? Some things just cracked me up this episode. Loved the Stephen King book & I want to know which one it is. It's obvious now that the Others have direct contact with civilization (files/info on the losties -- music CDs), so it could be any of his books. Why are these people living on this island? 
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